Third Party & Independents Archives

China, If Your Listening . . .

Being self-isolated gives one time to ponder the world, get some perspective on things. I believe President Trump has saved us from globalism. I’m naïve enough to believe that some companies are tired of dealing with communist China. Surely, they understand that as China matures foreign companies will be further cut out of the main action and diminished to a lesser place.

It will take another 10-15 years to get China's spies out of gov't and corporate knickers. It's unreal how much money China is pumping into US learning and research centers. China expresses that they want to be the number one economic power by 2025. One must assume that includes being the number one military power.

Then, there is the 'data' race between China and the US, G4 vs G5 and so on . . . I've heard China graduates some 2M engineers yearly while the US graduates 220k.

Don't know much about this China issue but it seems a good time to throw some words at it. What about big data from a privacy and security point of view? How should the US deal with China going into Trump's 2nd term? How does the Space Force play into this?

Posted by Roy Ellis at March 21, 2020 7:35 PM
Comment #454479
January 25, 2012

As a number of recent events remind us, this system is dynamic and complex but also vulnerable to numerous threats. These threats, such as pandemics, natural disasters, or attacks involving weapons of mass destruction could undermine the continuity of the global supply chain system as a whole.
Google quietly partnered last year with Ascension—the country’s second-largest health system—and has since gained access to detailed medical records on tens of millions of Americans, according to a November 11 report by The Wall Street Journal.

For Google’s part, the company is developing new software that employs artificial intelligence and machine learning to make care suggestions for individual patients.

Project Nightingale is a data storage and processing project by Google Cloud and Ascension, a Catholic health care system comprising a chain of 2,600 hospitals, doctors’ offices and other related facilities, in 21 states, with tens of millions of patient records available for processing health care data.

“We are developing a tool to help triage individuals for Covid-19 testing,” the company said, referring to the name of the disease caused by the new virus. “Verily is in the early stages of development, and planning to roll testing out in the Bay Area, with the hope of expanding more broadly over time.”

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 22, 2020 3:20 PM
Comment #454481

Good stuff, WW. And, ain’t that just the way it is? In general, the masses do not expect the ‘too big to fails’ to develop anything of import unless the ‘company’ takes a big chunk of the gain. The folks have no doubt that whatever google develops it is going to cost the folks more.

Seems all the big tech/data co’s want to get in on the insurance/Medicaid business.

From your comment, “”Amazon, Microsoft and Apple, inc. are also actively advancing into health care, but none of their business arrangements are equal in scope to Project Nightingale””

If folks just wanted improvement in the healthcare system then what google is planning might be ok. But, the US healthcare system is seen as overpriced or priced so that it is not attainable by the average citizen. Like, what does an aspirin cost when administered by a hospital? Today, a drug is $10/pill and tomorrow it is $450/pill. Companies spend bigtime to try and corner the market on a procedure or a pill, and so on …

Sounds like Trump and google are on separate paths being pulled closer together by greed. Money looking for a problem to solve.

We are led to believe that the only way anything can be developed of scale is to relay on monopolies like google.
And, we know that when gov’t gets involved in developing something the sky is limit. Like, NASA has spent some $10B building a launch pad for a rocket. But, hey, don’t we all want to go into space?

Question is, before we rape the taxpayers to develop something, there should be this big national debate about how to proceed.

I am a big defender of antitrust but the monopolies say that we can’t keep up with China if they are busted into smaller independent entities.

On this one it’s probably too late to do anything but get your pocketbook out. If google builds the test kit they will already be into medicare/insurance/your pocket …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at March 22, 2020 7:05 PM
Comment #454498

Every news story is about this virus.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 23, 2020 8:59 AM
Comment #454503

Trump will break bad on hillary in a few days.

Posted by: Roy ellis at March 23, 2020 11:12 AM
Comment #454506

We’re in the middle of a national inventory reduction sale. Grocery stores in my home town have every isle stocked except for the paper isle. Go figure.

The store I went to today was crowded. They’re letting guys off the street bag groceries. The guy that bagged mine looked like he hasn’t washed his hands in a week. My county hasn’t had a case come up. We’re still at 0 infections and 0 deaths.

I was surprised when I went out today. Except for a few bars and beauty salons, the businesses were vibrant. It’s like business as usual. I didn’t expect it considering every fricken’ story is about this virus and our incompetent president making it worse.

Gee, I wonder who I should believe, our media or my lying eyes.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 23, 2020 12:56 PM
Comment #454513

Thank God Almighty I don’t live in New York City. We live in rural cow country in East Texas. We’re only fifteen miles away from four major hospitals and hundreds of doctors.

Our governor stated that of 250 counties in Texas, more than 200 counties don’t have a single case.

I feel compassion for all Americans who live in large cities with many cases of the virus. We must help in every way we can.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 23, 2020 3:21 PM
Comment #454515

I hope something positive comes out of this.

I think I see the beginnings of a health care industry overhaul. I see something positive in the online triage website idea. I once mentioned local triage units run by doctors in their neighborhoods. A doctor who owns an ambulance. What a concept! Right? I’m seeing that in the Walmart parking lot drive thru idea.

Congress is talking about remote voting. If they can do it, so can we, right? Kiosk voting should meet that goal. We trust our credit cards and bank accounts to them, why can’t we trust our vote for politicians to them?

Home healthcare should come out of this positively. I like the idea of communities based on the healthcare needed. Food and grocery delivery, housekeeping services, security, all positive benefits coming out of what we’re experiencing today.

We can’t forget about the “Work from Home” concept that will come from this.

If anything we should get an accurate inventory of what this country has and can produce. Perhaps we can also get a new tax system out of this.

Healthcare, solved
Fossil fuel reduction, solved
Secure and accurate voting system, solved
Secure supply chain, solved
Tax overhaul, solved

Why didn’t these possibilities raise themselves during the last 8 epidemics?

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 23, 2020 5:08 PM
Comment #454518

A Senator, in arguing for the spending bill, is relating that a babies are born with normal brains but when they get to be Senators they turn into idiots, are something like that …

RF, Florida is going to quarantine any NY’er’s coming in to their state for 14 days. One would presume thousands would ‘flee to the hills’ to try and escape the virus.

WW, reason is in the way development transpires. There is not sitting back and looking at the big picture re development.

Development takes place thru a very narrow lense. Like, build a better highway as opposed to building a better transportation system. Developers look to put something together that will directly benefit their narrow interest.

Thus, it happens in bits and pieces and down stream a few things will be kludged together where possible. Just like Trumps test kit procurement thru google.

Not sure the people like a huge program, maybe run by gov’t, in collusion with some big monopolies to build out some really earth shaking, broad improvements. Perhaps being too socialist. ..

Posted by: Roy Ellis at March 23, 2020 7:58 PM
Comment #454519

Google doesn’t have anything to do with test kits. Google is working on the triage webpage. Test kits are being developed by Roche.

Necessity is the Mother of Invention. Trump is right to invite the private sector to lead the way.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 23, 2020 9:25 PM
Comment #454520

what about 454479? Trump suggested he would work with google to develop a test kit, I believe.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at March 23, 2020 9:51 PM
Comment #454521

They were testing the webpage, not developing a test for the virus.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 23, 2020 9:57 PM
Comment #454523

Google is putting together a website that does triage. It’s been in development for a number of years. Long before this virus showed up. That’s why I mentioned it in the comment I made. Google has been working on this triage webpage long before this virus showed up. I think it’s why Google has access to Ascension’s medical data.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 23, 2020 10:08 PM
Comment #455825

China is becoming a thread for all the world. They are trying to occupy and control all the countrieds economies by doing different type of trades. I think they would prove a disaster for the world in the future

Posted by: Gaurav at May 23, 2020 3:43 AM
Comment #456625

The time has come to stand up against China. All nations should ponder over it.

Visit extramovies for more

Posted by: extramovies at June 23, 2020 4:57 AM
Post a comment