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Shut Them Up, Put Them In Cuffs !

Wray, you scumbag, I stretch my arse over your head while eating a half gallon of xlax.

There are no names, no insults, no words to express the _______ for the actions of these scumbags.

After all the evidence that has been put forth over the last 3 years regarding this coup attempt the perpetrators act as if its business as usual, keep making the same talking points, keep the show going . . .

It's like the murderer setting in the docks after hearing the guilty verdict and continuing to say 'I' didn't do it'. No shame, no character, no morals, no nuthin. . . .

So, Pelosi will keep on impeachin, Wray will keep on, 'yes some errors were made but we wilol clean that up', and the rest will keep lying so as not to impune their image.

And, to the real perpetrators, the elites of biz, entertain, edu, meds, info, etc, they could give a s..t less. Just something they felt necessary to keep globalism and open borders going. Just a bump in the road for them and, on to the next great thing . . .

Yes, just as President Trump will clean up your sh.t and, with his band of deplorables, reform immigration, protect our sovereignty and the 2nd amendment, and perhaps build some comfortable prisons for you bastards. . .

Posted by Roy Ellis at December 10, 2019 1:02 PM
Comment #451505

Washington D.C. is orchestrating a soap opera. They’re not interested in justice. They’re putting on a show and both parties are complicit. It’s a sitcom disguised as a drama. Nothing will come of it except the next episode. It’s so simple a caveman can explain it.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 10, 2019 3:44 PM
Comment #451506

Democratics are so hypocritical. All of the sudden the founders are the smartest people in the history of the world. All of the sudden the constitution is a strict discipline that cannot be deviated from in the least. All of the sudden they are pleading to God.

It’s sickening how they trot out all these platitudes when they want something.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 10, 2019 3:48 PM
Comment #451507

“It’s sickening how they trot out all these platitudes when they want something.”

I agree completely Weary. It is truly nauseating to listen to Pelosi, Shiff, Nadler and others proclaim their “duty” to follow the constitution in this case, but ignore it elsewhere.

These Liberal Democrats ignore the needs of middle class working Americans and pander to the ten percent of their party wanting socialism, discord, and misery.

I have no respect for these hypocrites. They should never be referred to as “honorable”.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 10, 2019 4:37 PM
Comment #451508

Right WW, or when they want to be seen as sensible and normal.

Well, I’ve suspected that Trump would hold his cards until close to the election. O’riley says Trump is pissed and looking for accountability.

I still believe the dim party is daid. Who can run as a serious contender in 2020? Not Bernie. Not Hillary or Biden. The two billionaires are the only real contenders and no contest for Trump. They are daid.

Meanwhile, Trump can lock up the coupdetaters, the MCA will go into effect in Jan. Immigration is way down and more fencing going up daily. Economy and 401k’s doing well. NATO countries kicking in more. A biggie is his backing China out of the technical intelligence sector.

Today’s news relates that countries have given unaccounted for billions to US unives, some for research into mass secrity control systems and so on … Globalist are not ignorant, but highly stupid, IMO.

I think it’s kool how Trump is putting pressure on S. Kor to cut a deal with N. Kor. by doubling the cost of US military support. Trump understands quid pro quos better than any previous president, IMO.

First decade in … how long without a recession?

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 10, 2019 5:04 PM
Comment #451509

The Democrats are out-of-control.
They are getting increasingly selfish and dangerous too, by:

  • encouraging mob-like behavior,
  • pandering encouraging illegal immigration,
  • encouraging more sanctuary cities and states, like mayors like Libby Schaaf (Oakland, CA), who warns illegal immigrants (including criminal illegal immigrants) before an ICE raid to arrest criminal illegal immigrants;
  • ignoring crime and 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens,
  • ignoring the thousands of victims of crime by criminal non-citizens each year,
  • ignoring the monetary cost of massive illegal immigration,
  • calling for the abolishment of ICE, opposing a [x]citizenship question on the decennial census (notice the common-thread in all of the Democrats’ deeds?),
  • weaponizing and abusing the legal system for political purposes,
  • not to mention the Democrats’ despicable deeds over the 155+ years,
  • and trying to buy votes with promises of all sorts of free stuff (including healthcare and other free stuff for non-citizens).

Democrats are clearly demonstrating that they will do almost ANYTHING for more votes, money, power, and control.

But, should we be surprised?
It’s all really par-for-the-course for the Democrat party, who:

And today, it appears that little has changed.

Posted by: d.a.n at December 10, 2019 11:17 PM
Comment #451534
Roy Ellis wrote: First decade in … how long without a recession?
The economy was so wrecked by G.W. Bush and his Iraq war (based on WMD of which no significant WMD was ever found) that cost the lives of many thousands of U.S. troops and many Trillion$.
There was really almost nowhere but up for the economy to go when Obama was elected, despite Obama’s attempts (and lies) that hurt the economy, spread socialism, and worsened racial tensions.

However, Trump’s hundreds of accomplishments have helped the economy more in many ways. Corporate taxes are simply a hidden tax on consumers, and corporate taxes higher than the global average (i.e. of 20%) was incentivizing corporations and jobs to leave the U.S.A. Lowering the corporate tax from 35% to 21% was a huge improvement, and lowering personal income taxes has also helped the economy in many ways.

Democrats don’t want to talk about the economy, except to keep telling us that a “recession” is coming soon.
Bill Maher and many Democrats are rooting for a recession.
How is that not despicable?
How is that not evidence of how low Democrats are willing to stoop to acquire power and control?
Why would anyone want to support a party that does that, not to mention 155+ years of despicable deeds?

Posted by: d.a.n at December 11, 2019 10:04 AM
Comment #451540

Your clown was meeting with the russian foreign minister while all this was happening, not at the request of the white house, who kept denying that this was going to happen, but at the russians’ insistence. They own him. If we want to know what Ttump is doing, we have to ask his owners.

Posted by: orteil at December 11, 2019 12:45 PM
Comment #451541

It appears orteil is still on the “Russia!, Russia!, Russia!, Russia!” hoax (only one of many Democrat and FAKE NEWS hoaxes):

  • (01) the fake accusations against Kavanaugh;
  • (02) the Trump/Russia Collusion hoax (which was actually collusion by Democrats);
  • (03) the Trump Obstruction hoax (don’t you first need a crime?);
  • (04) the Trump “chest pains” hoax on 17-NOV-2019;
  • (05) the “impeachment” hoax;
  • (06) the “Quid Pro Quo” hoax;
  • (07) the “Bribery” hoax;
  • (08) the “Extortion” hoax;
  • (09) the “Abuse of Power” hoax (really funny coming from Demorats);
  • (10) the “Obstruction of Congress” hoax (again, really funny coming from Demorats);
  • (11) the “there is no crisis at the border” hoax;
  • (12) and all of these abuses of power by Democrats;
  • (13) and one of Democrats’ most despicable hoaxes on U.S. citizens, of many despicable deeds by Democrats over the last 155+ years;
Yet, all were unsuccessful.
The Democrats have come up empty every time.
After 3+ years of serial hoaxes and investigations, either:
  • the Democrats are very INCOMPETENT,
  • or they are very CORRUPT and guilty of abusing their power with serial hoaxes (which amount to serial attempted coup d’é·tats),
  • or BOTH !
So, orteil, which is it? Some of BOTH, most likely?

Posted by: d.a.n at December 11, 2019 1:07 PM
Comment #451543

“It appears orteil is still on the “Russia!, Russia!, Russia!, Russia!” hoax (only one of many Democrat and FAKE NEWS hoaxes):”

No surprise there d.a.n. (He,She,It) is living in denial and there is no easy fix for that mental condition.


“Since Donald Trump was elected and took office through July of 2019, median family incomes, middle-class incomes are up $4,100,” said Moore, who helped write the 2017 tax cuts, citing a report from the Census Bureau.

“In the entire eight years that Obama was president, incomes only budged up about $1,000, so in one-third of the time, Trump has increased income by four times as much. We now have a median income of 65,000 dollars. That shows pretty clearly that the middle-class has been benefiting,” he added.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 11, 2019 4:13 PM
Comment #451544

Did you ask them, orteil? What did they say? What did the Russian Foreign Minister have to say? Do you have a link to your information to back it up, or is your comment just conjecture?

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 11, 2019 4:13 PM
Comment #451546

So, what happened on this week’s episode of “As The Federal Government Turns”?

I don’t think I’m going to watch it. I’ll look for the teasers on the MSM and YouTube. What would that amount to? Perhaps 3 minutes out of 10 hours?

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 11, 2019 5:09 PM
Comment #451547

Think about this:

The United States has the most powerful and technologically advanced police force in the world. It’s supposed to be at the beck and call of the U.S. President, but the current president has to hire a private attorney to get something investigated.

That just doesn’t make sense to me.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 11, 2019 5:14 PM
Comment #451548

The russia russia IG laid out evidence before the Senate today that top FBI people lied to the FISA court and withheld evidence from the court in seeking a warrant to surveil certain folks in/around the Trump organization.

AG Barr and SP Durham were briefed and given copies of the report. So, we may get answers to the conspiracy to take down Trump around mid summer.

Still, no dims admitting culpability - ‘just some rogue FBI types making bad decisions’ and so on …

Indeed, they are still pushing their narrative that Trump should be investigated for using Guilani to ‘get dirt on Biden’ in Ukraine.

Likely nothing will change as Barr/Durham will be closed mouth on their investigation. But, do expect the dims to keep lying, making up stories and trying to ‘get Trump’.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 11, 2019 5:15 PM
Comment #451549

Durham and Barr have far wider investigative authority.
Horowitz’s report (somehow) does not conclude there were any conspiracies (despite many people in the FBI and DOJ with extreme attitudes, statements, and actions that very much seem treasonous).

Hopefully, some or the following will be held accountable IF there is evidence of criminal behavior:

  • Adam Schiff,
  • Chuck Schumer,
  • Eric Swalwell,
  • Diane Feintstein,
  • Mazie Hirono,
  • Diane Feinstein,
  • Patrick Leahy,
  • Dick Durbin,
  • Chris Coons,
  • Kamala Harris,
  • Amy Klobuchar,
  • Dick Blumenthal,
  • Maxine Waters,
  • Cory Booker,
  • Sheldon Whitehouse,
  • Barack Obama,
  • Lois Lerner,
  • Eric Holder;
  • Jerry Nadler,
  • James Comey,
  • Loretta Lynch,
  • Andrew McCabe,
  • Nancy Pelosi,
  • Andrew Weissmann,
  • Sally Yates,
  • Peter Strzok,
  • Lisa Page,
  • Bruce Ohr,
  • Nellie Ohr,
  • John Brennan,
  • James Clapper,
  • Susan Rice,
  • Rod Rosenstien,
  • Robert Menendez,
  • the Clintons,
  • the Bidens,
  • some in the DNC, and the other deep-staters, etc., etc., etc. (there’s far too many to name all here).

Posted by: d.a.n at December 11, 2019 6:42 PM
Comment #451565

We will probably get something like “they didn’t mean it”, or “They had no criminal intent”.

It’s really up to the media to see if this gets any traction. If they forget about it, (Lindsey Graham’s opening comments) then the people won’t force the issue and it will drift off into obscurity. (Hillbilly)

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 12, 2019 8:55 AM
Comment #451568

Lindsey Graham: “Wow, Donald Trump is an enormous douche”

Posted by: orteil at December 12, 2019 12:07 PM
Comment #451569

So what? Who cares what Lindsey Graham thinks?
In fact, it was funny as hell when many Republicans had a hissy fit when voters ignored all of the 17+ Republicans running for POTUS for 2016, because Republican voters were sick-and-tired of all do-nothing and corrupt Republican politicians too!
Too bad more Democrat voters aren’t able to do that too.
Is that the best orteil has? How does anything orteil says or whines about compare to the Democrat party’s despicable deeds today and over the last 155+ years ?

In the past, Democrats:

  • (1) sought to continue slavery;
  • (2) started the U.S. Civil War;
  • (3) created the KKK;
  • (4) created Jim Crow laws;
  • (5) imposed racial segregation;
  • (6)opposed womens’ right to vote;
  • (7) Franklin D. Roosevelt (and Democrats with majority in Congress) imprisoned U.S. citizens of Japanese descent (a violation of the Constitution);
  • (8) And today, this is the Demorats’ despicable strategy to acquire power via massive illegal immigration (while conveniently ignoring 2,000 homicides per year and many thousands of victims per year due to crime by criminal non-citizens), calls for open-borders, encouraging illegal immigration, decades of panderting to illegal immigrants, and making promises of all sorts of free stuff to buy votes.
But Orteil and other Democrats don’t want to talk about that, eh?
What sort of person supports a party like this ?

Posted by: d.a.n at December 12, 2019 12:43 PM
Comment #451571

Anyone care to guess the number of House Democrats that will not vote with the herd and reject one or both of the impeachment articles?

Sticking my neck out and predict five.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 12, 2019 4:52 PM
Comment #451573

Yeah, unfortunately, 5 of 233 Democrats (of 435 seats in the House) is far too few.
So much for Pelosi’s statement about the impeachment needing to be bi-partisan, eh?
However, while Congress rarely polices its own ranks, the Democrats will (hopefully) be held accountable by voters on 03-NOV-2020 for their abuses, hoaxes, and weaponization of the legal systems, FBI, DOJ, IRS, and other departments and agencies, which can be added to the Demorats’ growing list of despicable deeds over the last 155+ years.

Posted by: d.a.n at December 12, 2019 6:18 PM
Comment #451574

Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder is attempting to stay relevant by dumping on AG Barr. Here’s a brief video of this hypocrite in action.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 12, 2019 6:28 PM
Comment #451575

Royal Flush, Thanks for the video about the corrupt and racist “They go low, we kick them” Eric Holder.
Eric Holder said:

“Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards.”
… but Eric Holder is just another POS that (ironically) supports a racist party that does this today, and has a long history of racism and other despicable deeds for the last 155+ years.

Eric Holder:

  • (1) was the first Attorney General in history to be held in contempt by the House of Representatives.
    Some DOJ veterans said that Eric Holder politicized the DOJ to an unprecedented degree.
  • (2) started the “Operation Fast and Furious”, which was a gun-running scheme that led directly to the death of an American border agent and many Mexican citizens. Holder was held in contempt by the HOR for refusing to turn over information and documentation about this operation that led to many deaths.
  • (3) deteriorated election integrity and increased racism via by embedding leftist extremists in the DOJ. Eric Holder said “You constantly hear about voter fraud… but you don’t see huge amounts of vote fraud out there.”.
    That’s hypocritical, because the fact is, 81% of voter fraud convictions are by Democrats, according to the Voter Fraud database (from 1979 to 2018). Eric Holder and Democrats don’t seem to care about how many dead people and non-citizens are voting in our elections.
  • (4) refused to conduct an investigation of the IRS for targeting conservative organizations, and refused to enforce the contempt citation issued by the House of Representative against Lois Lerner.
  • (5) went afer journalists in leak investigations, but ignored leaks coming out of the White House from high-level administration officials.
  • (6) failed many times to advise Obama against Constitution and federal law violatons, and refused to enforce federal laws, and tried to persuade state attorneys general to engage in the same type of behavior of refusing to defend laws passed by their state legislatures.
  • (7) colluded in “sue and settle” lawsuits in order to use taxpayer money to fund the budgets of liberal groups.
Hence, Eric Holder’s legacy is a disgrace, and a former DOJ employee said “Holder is the worst person to hold the position of attorney general since the disgraced John Mitchell, who went to jail as a result of the Watergate scandal.”. Eric Holder refused to investigate any of this.

Posted by: d.a.n at December 12, 2019 8:06 PM
Comment #451621

Good News!
Democrats continue to dig that hole they’re standing in ever deeper, which will be great for the elections on 03-NOV-2020.
Democrats are making history by attempted coup d’é·tats via failed hoax-after-hoax and the new impeachment hoax (which will fail too) which is 100% non-partisan (i.e. not a single member of the Republican party is voting for impeachment, and some members of the Democrat party are also voting against impeachment, and it is extremely unlikely that 2/3 of the Senate will ever vote for impeachment).
Democrats are proving that it is completely political, and their two articles of impeachment don’t even provide proof of crimes.
Democrats have abused the legal systems, and tried to weaponize many departments, in order to unseat Trump.
Democrats are proving that there is no low that they won’t stoop to in order to acquire power.
Democrats are working hard on their next deed to add to their growing list of historically despicable deeds.
Democrats, please keep up the great work!
Democrats, keep giving people more and more reasons to wonder WHY they ever supported a party that does all of that, and this today, and this over the last 155+ years.

Posted by: d.a.n at December 13, 2019 12:42 PM
Comment #451624

Michael Bennet (D-CO) was just demonstrating his hypocrisy by complaining about $28 Billion in subsidies to farmers due to trade disagreements with China (although, China is now purchasing farm products again), while Michael Bennet (along with most Democrats) conveniently ignores the co$t ($275 Billion per year; almost 10 times more) of their open-borders policies and calls for more sanctuary cities and states, to abolish ICE, refusing to fund border security, decades of pandering to illegal immigrants, and the untold cost for victims of crime by criminal non-citizens (including 2,000 homicides per year).

Whenever Democrats complain about the co$t of anything, just ask them about the co$t of their despicable behavior like this (not to mention their despicable behavior over the last 155+ years).

Posted by: d.a.n at December 13, 2019 2:44 PM
Comment #451625

Thanks to d.a.n. for outlining the many egregious acts committed by former AG Eric Holder. This man was a disgrace to the office.

I watched a brief interview of Michael Bennet this morning. Yes, he complained about the $28 Billion in subsidies to farmers to help compensate them for tariff retaliation by China.

This man has a “memory of convenience” when it comes to subsidies. He is a charlatan who doesn’t have the guts to stand for anything that helps the entire nation.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 13, 2019 3:53 PM
Comment #451626

Johnson claims Brexit mandate with new conservative majority

Hurrah for the Brits. Finally, they have a Conservative government with a significant majority of seats in Parliament. The Socialists were soundly defeated amid their calls for nationalizing the nations railroads and other industries.

Middle Class Brits have been suffering under a growing oppression by the EU cabal in Brussels. Brexit is their salvation. Just imagine our country being told what we could do by Mexico City or Toronto.

We are seeing ever more countries return to full capitalism and shedding the worthless and damaging policies of Socialism.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 13, 2019 5:03 PM
Comment #451627

I hope this is a global trend.
Socialism is the path to ruin.
Socialism has a built-in self-correction mechanism: it always fails.

Posted by: d.a.n at December 13, 2019 6:16 PM
Comment #451630

Super tired of the BS the media, including FOX, is throwing around about how the FBI ideologs went after Trump. Surely Durham will ‘follow the money’ re McCabes hand picked cronies. Be assured the globalist elites who stand to lose trillions as we gain national sovereignty, are at the forefront of the coup.

dims were just fine with the 20 some GOP’ers on the stage for the 2016. Four more years of G. Bush policies would have been just fine with the dims. Wasn’t until Trump came down the elevator that they went bonkers.

Order of coup magnitude, IMO: WH - 75, DOS-50, CIA-30, DOJ-50, FBI-100, mil and other gov’t - 50, foreign gov’t types-70, Media-200, and other smaller contingents. Some 500 folks were involved in this coup attempt. Some reps/senators were in the know …

So, what will we get for accountability? Ideally, it would be a firing squad for those convicted as a main player. What we are hearing is that one FBI guy should be fired…

Amazingly, many who participated still have security clearances, drawing pensions, still gov’t employees, Wray for example, and so on … If there is no justice people should stand up and vote every GOP/dim from federal office over the next six years or so.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 13, 2019 8:14 PM
Comment #451631

Chris Wallace addressed the ‘Newseum’ recently and said something like ‘we’ve got the best job in the world where we get paid to tell the truth’.

WOW. He seems to claim to be independent as to left or right but he, like so many in the msm/fake news, hasn’t told the truth in so long they would have to be trained again.

And, that’s not right either. Cris and the msm/fake news know the truth, they are just following their business model and get paid to tell lies for George Soros.. . and that’s the truth… sorry sh.t for brains, all of them…

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 13, 2019 11:09 PM
Comment #451643

I saw that. He was defending his industry, not the first amendment.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 14, 2019 12:25 PM
Comment #451644

90% (or more) of the MSM is FAKE NEWS.
Even FOX NEWS pushes lies too.
In fact, they are ALL biased.
However, the LEFT news sources are the worst by far, and tell the most lies (e.g. MSNBC, CNN, NBC, and similar ilk), and far out-number the RIGHT news sources.
In fact, some of the LEFT news sources have literally lost their minds, and sanction and spew hate, racism, and many other despicable deeds on a daily basis.
They are obsessed with Donald Trump, and their deep hatred is out-of-control.
The LEFT news sources are nothing more than the left arm of the Democrat party.

For example, here are 104 instances of FAKE NEWS by the Main Stream Media (about the Trump Administration since 2016)…

Posted by: d.a.n at December 14, 2019 12:59 PM
Comment #451645

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress.

Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding; cause or induce any person to withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding; evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process

Posted by: orteil at December 14, 2019 1:48 PM
Comment #451648

Dang, that’s heavy, orteil. That kind of stuff is how we know ‘you can indict a ham sandwich’ if the wind blows that way.

I just have never had the brains to deal with long sentences. I’m more of a touchy/feely person. Like I am comfortable in that I know Kim Jung Il will stik to playing with firecrackers so long as Trump is Pres. And, I feel more secure when I SEE the 30’ walls going up along the border. I break into a smile when I go to the bank and check the bottom line. I like the idea of a ‘space force’ keeping an eye on the world. To the moon and mars in 24, and, and, and, a good strong feeling that Laura Trump will be our 46th, and so on …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 14, 2019 5:37 PM
Comment #451658

Yea! orteil finally realizes the Democratics are obstructing justice and abusing their power.

orteil has stepped into the light.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 15, 2019 12:04 AM
Comment #451669

I don’t want to be like the numerous brain-washed morons (many of which are Democrat supporters) that believe all of the wild conspiracy theories told by Rachael Madcow on the disgraced MSNBC.
Therefore, while I am skeptical, the reports by OANN are interesting as more and more proof and witnesses are speaking up (with many hour-long investigation reports about money-laundering in Ukraine, potential perjury by fired ambassador Maria Yovanovitch, and the Bidens’ possible involvment in stealing and money-laundering on a massive scale (about $7 Billion)):

We’ll see. It looks suspicious, but the leftist —Main Stream Media—>FAKE NEWS MEDIA is already calling it all tin-foil hat conspiracy theories, but there is something definitely suspicious about Hunter Biden receiving up to $80K per month for a board-seat on an energy compay (Burisma) when Hunter Biden said he had no experience in that industry, and Hunter also admitted on nation-wide television that he would NOT have received that cu$hy board-seat had he not been the son of Joe Biden.

Also, it appears that New York state (already a sanctuary state) is now going to give drivers’ licenses to illegal immigrants. I wonder IF New York is going to do like California, and also automatically register them to vote at the same time?
How is this not a violation of federal laws?
Republicans need to wake up and understand that they are being outnumbered by immigrants who have been pandered to by Democrats for decades (with promises of citizenship and all sorts of free stuff).

Posted by: d.a.n at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM
Comment #451671

I truly believe the Motor-Voter Law is unconstitutional. Nowhere in the constitution does it state the federal government is responsible for defining the state’s voting procedures. The 14th amendment and the 19th amendment defines the illegality of bias against the various groups defined. The amendments do not grant the federal government the authority to dictate the state’s voting procedures.

If I am mistaken, please elaborate on my error.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM
Comment #451672

Illegal immigration is … uuuhhmmmmm … ILLEGAL
Also, aiding and abetting criminals is ILLEGAL
Therefore, it follows that giving drivers’ licenses to illegal immigrants should also be ILLEGAL.
Also, we all know the true reason behind giving illegal immigrants drivers’ licenses and also registering them to vote.
Illegal voting in U.S. elections is already rampant.
81% of all voter fraud convictions are already by Democrats [1979 to 2018].
The Democrats’ strategy is truly despicable, and it is working … at least until enough U.S. citizens are tired of suffering the consequences (i.e. including 2,200 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens, tens of thousands of victims of crime by illegal immigrants per year, and the massive co$t of over $275 Billion per year=$0.75 Billion per day due to illegal immigration) of massive illegal immigration, incentivized by Democrats to acquire more votes, money, power, and control.

Posted by: d.a.n at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM
Comment #451673

I think the only way we can establish an equitable voting system is to define the procedure at the national level. This would involve a national Citizen’s ID. It should emulate the current credit card and display a ballot on an ATM screen to accept or change a legitimate vote at any time during the cycle. The vote is tallied in November and the ballot reset to accept the next cycle’s campaign and vote.

The only thing holding us back from a modification like this is trust and resistance to change.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM
Comment #451674

If I could play the Devil’s Advocate to respond to d.a.n’s comment I would proceed this way:

The constitutions mentions Citizens of the Various States to define the Citizens of the United States. The state defines it’s citizen to be a resident of that state. If the constitution were to be adhered to there would be no illegal immigrants. The state defines who is a citizen of that state via. residence. The constitution defines citizens as citizens of the various states. The 14th amendment distorts that.

The federal government’s responsibility is to accept and qualify the immigrant and to protect the border. The federal government can only accept immigrants for states that request them (10th amendment). The immigrant establishs residence in the state. The state then grants citizenship to the immigrant, and therefore, grants citizenship in the U.S.

The 14th amendment is the root of our delema, in my opinion. An amendment written specifically for past slaves (a finite group) should have been worded differently. The evidence of this mistake is obvious in how the corporation and the foreign born have taken advantage of it. Perhaps voting reform lies in the 14th amendment’s repeal and replacement.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 15, 2019 12:50 PM
Comment #451676

The 14th Amendment states:

  • SECTION#1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
  • SECTION#2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
  • SECTION#3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
  • SECTION#4: The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
The 14th Amendment needs clarification.
SECITON#1 mentions “jurisdiction”, and to me, it can easily be argued that non-citizens are not subject to U.S. “jurisdiction”, unless they have been naturalized (and approved by the U.S.), or their parent is a U.S. citizen.

70% of all births at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, TX are by illegal immigrants.
297,000 anchor babies (as of JUN-2019) born in the U.S. each year are by non-citizens (about 20% of all births in the U.S.A.).
The 297,000 births per year by illegal immigrants is larger than the total number of births in all but two state (CA, TX), and larger than the total number of births in 16 states plus the District of Columbia, combined. The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) stated that the estimated 28,000 births to illegal immigrants in just the Los Angeles metro area alone is larger than the total number of births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

Only in the last few decades have many sanctuary states started giving drivers’ licenses (and lots of other free stuff) to illegal immigrants, and we all know what the Democrats’ true (and despicable) reasons are for doing that, and all of this.
And Democrats are promising more free stuff for illegal immigrants, including more free healthcare, college, food stamps, housing, etc. (which is costing 10 states with 97.4% of all illegal immigrants many hundreds of billions per year, which doesn’t even include the costs of crime and 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens).

President Trump wrote: “Some 4 million anchor babies are now officially U.S. citizens.”
“This has to stop”.
“The rest of the world bases citizenship on who the kid’s parents are, which is of course the only sane standard”.
“If a pregnant American mother is traveling to Egypt on business and goes into delivery, do we instantly declare her child an Egyptian? Of course not”.
“[But in the U.S.A.], women who have zero connection to the United States cross the border, deliver a baby, and their kid magically becomes an American citizen eligible to receive all the rights and benefits of those who have lived, worked and paid taxes in our country”. [Not to mention those that also died to defend the U.S.A.].

Posted by: d.a.n at December 15, 2019 2:16 PM
Comment #451677

Most Democrats don’t care about any of those massive monetary and human costs above, and also lie constantly about those costs to U.S. citizens.
Most Democrats only care about their long-term plan of pandering to illegal immigrants to incentivize massive illegal immigration to acquire more electoral votes (based on decennial census), money, power, and control.

IF Republicans and Independents allow Democrats to do that (and bring their Socialist and Communist belief systems with them; lured here by Democrats with promises of all sorts of free stuff), then Republicans and Independents will also have what they deserve (at least, until the economy is ruined like those of many Socialist/Communist nations).

Posted by: d.a.n at December 15, 2019 2:47 PM
Comment #451858

There are tend to be not many people who can write so simple posts that are artistical. Continue the nice writing. Thank you.

Posted by: Ragini Sen at December 21, 2019 5:51 AM
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