Third Party & Independents Archives

Immigration is #1 for dims and reps

Sorely amazed that the GOP has had the Executive, House, and Senate for 2 yrs and, outside of a couple of firings, retirements, none of the conspirators working against Trump have been held accountable. I assume Paul Ryan and the GOP Trump haters in the House and Senate have stymied any/all paths leading to accountability.

I would like to call them names and rant against them but would be a waste of keystrokes. Can only wonder what the haters hold to a greater belief that they would overlook the Obama admins weaponizing the US gov't to go after a presidential candidate/President. That is the worst conspiracy that has ever been carried out in this country, by far
.
Would seem this would destroy the GOP base re the 2020's. But, when you think about it, the only choice the GOP base has is to double down and support Trump. Otherwise, the umpteen millions of illegals will get amnesty, likely get your job and turn us into a 3rd world country pdq. And, there won't be any 'going back' once the millions get the vote.
Some lady thinker on Mark Levin last week suggested there would be a civil war in our future if the border is not secured. You may think that's silly talk but it is being talked and thought about. On its face controlling immigration is ions more important than slavery was during the day. Slavery was primarily an economic issue for about half of the country. Unfettered immigration will lead to the loss of this country pdq.

Astonishing that approximately half of the country holds the browning of America up as their main agenda item. They care so much about ethnical diversity as an issue that they refuse to follow US law, make up laws to further their cause, care nothing about who gains access to this country, cares nothing about assimilation, care nothing about the cost, and so on . . . It's exactly like a hostile takeover attempt of the country, a revolution from the inside. Revolution has been underway for some years, ramping up with the 'get Trump, No Wall' movement. Weaponizing the US govt to force their diversity agenda.

I've never been comfortable in knowing that the population growth in this country has long been thru immigration as the family unit is only producing offspring at a rate that just maintains their number, or two kids per family. Really upsetting that corporation are using cheap immigrat labor to hold down wages for the working folks. Really, really upsetting that the dims are Easy to understand that the other half will fight against the destruction of American as we know it.

Well, it's now up to Trump to get control of immigration and see that amnesty is controlled so as not to dramatically increase the dem voter rolls. . . . if Trump succeeds he may divert a civil war. How novel is that???

A Pak woman who recently won a House seat will wear her 'Pak gown' to the swearing in ceremony. How novel is that??

Posted by Roy Ellis at December 15, 2018 9:10 PM
Comments
Comment #435781

para should read ”are Easy to understand that the other half will fight against the destruction of American as we know it. “”

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 15, 2018 9:36 PM
Comment #435786
Sorely amazed that the GOP has had the Executive, House, and Senate for 2 yrs and, outside of a couple of firings, retirements, none of the conspirators working against Trump have been held accountable.

As if those opposed to Trump signed some sort of a loyalty contract to Trump. Zeig Heil Roy, but here in America we pledge allegiance to the country, not the president.

Trumps rule is a sham, Roy. He won the election but lost the popular vote, hardly a mandate is it. He has aligned himself with dictators and corruption is what he has accomplished thus far. Mr. Art of the deal couldn’t even get his own party to give him money to build a useless wall. Nor could he live up to his campaign promise of getting Mexico to pay for the wall.

The problem we have Roy is how so many on the right, yourself included, blame immigrants for the lack of decent jobs in this country. You give a pass to the corporations that use technology to replace workers. You forget how corporations have offshored jobs to the same countries some of these immigrants are coming from. You turn a blind eye to the corporations that employ illegal immigrants. You forget about those corporations that use H1 visas to bring immigrants here to work for lower wages. You praise corporate America as they use our military to expand overseas. But most disturbing of all, you allow yourself to be brainwashed by these same billionaires into believing immigrants are the problem.

As a nation we really should get a handle on what we want for immigration moving forward. Trump isn’t the man to lead on this, as he has proven. Neither are his weak minded followers who believe all our problems will be answered if only we build a wall to keep people out.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 16, 2018 11:28 AM
Comment #435787

It’s not too late to pull your head out of Trumps a**

Posted by: j2t2 at December 16, 2018 11:42 AM
Comment #435788

Has anyone considered the possibility that the federal government can’t control the world the way it thinks it can?

Is the problem with immigration one of too many immigrants, or is the problem with immigration one of the federal government way of controlling it?

Is the problem with drugs one of too many drugs and addicts, or is the problem with drugs one of the federal government thinking it can control it?

Is the problem with crime one of society’s malfunction, or is the problem with crime one of the federal government thinking it can control it?

I know from experience that when you overthink something you’re likely to fail. The law of diminishing returns comes into effect at some point. I think we’re long past it with the federal governemnt’s involvement in the myriad of issues it takes upon itself.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 16, 2018 12:27 PM
Comment #435789

j2t2, your link portrays Trump supporters as a cult, blind to reality (yours), etc..

1an all-encompassing belief system, extreme devotion to the leader, reluctance to acknowledge criticism of the group or its leader, and a disdain for nonmembers.

Would you be open to the idea that half the country have been waiting for someone to shake up the status quo? I thought Trump said the things that needed to be said when he started his campaign. I’m not following him (twitter). I have no extreme devotion to the man although I hope he does what he says, but I am not devoted to him and I hate to burst your bubble, but I had a disdain for “nonmembers” long before Trump came onto the scene. My disdain goes back to the those who assumed power after the Kennedy assassination. The history of this country since then has earned the disdain of true American Patriots.

I have disdain for the welfare state created under LBJ. I have disdain for the aggression the Military Industrial Complex must sustain to survive. I have disdain for the combative nature our 2 party system has devolved into. I have disdain for the vicious political attacks that have become SOP for the left. I have disdain for the violence the left has perpetrated on the streets of major Democratic strongholds across America.

I believe your link reflects more the left’s cognitive dissonance and the left’s projection. You can do the strike out/replace of Trump supporters with Democratic party supporters and the article would reflect the same attitude I have toward the left as it does toward the right when you read it.

Posted by: Weary Willie at December 16, 2018 1:21 PM
Comment #435790

As usual j2, you diagnosis is far off track, not thru some analysis but, of the political bias you stamp on all your comments. Start with the last one.

Trump may be a cult figure to some folks but not to me. Personally, I see Trump as a hugely wealthy person, so wealthy he doesn’t have to give a rats ass about anything. I see him as a high energy person, rising early, attending many rallies, and, apparently, endowed with a large sexual appetite.

I don’t care a whit if Trump screws ten women a day, has nothing to do with being President of the US. What I and, I would think, others care about is what he does.

“”Zeig Heil Roy, but here in America we pledge allegiance to the country, not the president.””

Pledge allegiance my ass, j2. Obama and his administration carried out the worst conspiracy this nation has known in weaponizing the US gov’t to take down a presidential candidate and, following that, a sitting US President.

“”He has aligned himself with dictators and corruption is what he has accomplished thus far.””

So, I heard this morning that Trump has put in place a strategic policy designed to confront Russian and Chinese influence on the African continent. If he accomplishes nothing else over the next six years, that one thing is far more than the Clintons and Obamanites did thru their entire regimes.

“”The problem we have Roy is how so many on the right, yourself included, blame immigrants for the lack of decent jobs in this country.””

More just pure BS, j2. No where will you find I have ever wrote that immigrants are to blame for anything. You just make up stuff and post it.

True, I don’t like US population growth being driven by immigration. Something wrong there. Easy to understand why immigrants want to gain access to the US. I agree to acceptance of 150-200K folks a year but we don’t need more than that to fill jobs in agriculture and similar. Hopefully, in that group we could find 10-20k well educated folks to fill some stem positions.

“”You give a pass to the corporations that use technology to replace workers. You forget how corporations have offshored jobs to the same countries some of these immigrants are coming from. You turn a blind eye to the corporations that employ illegal immigrants. You forget about those corporations that use H1 visas to bring immigrants here to work for lower wages. You praise corporate America as they use our military to expand overseas. But most disturbing of all, you allow yourself to be brainwashed by these same billionaires into believing immigrants are the problem.””

More just pure BS, j2. Don’t you recall from my previous posts some years back about my anti-trust rants and ‘otherwise, you have the corpocracy ((corporatocracy)) you deserve …? I’m against conglomerates and ‘too big to fail’ businesses. I am for capitalism but against the Luxciottas? eye glass monopoly and so on … Or, when corps like google monopolize and go partisan. As for technology, it is not the responsibility of business to create ‘more jobs’. It is the responsibility of gov’t to prevent monopolization of businesses which create fewer jobs.

What I want for immigration going forward is nothing like what the dims want. It’s proven that a wall will stop 98+% of people coming over the wall. With the flow stopped we can concentrate on reform. Have to do something about those folks who fly in and never leave. Need a strong E=verify system for immigrant workers. Need reform to limit and reduce the abuse of the visa system. Need to send the dreamers home and/or cut in their voting rights over a 10-15 year period to prevent an immediate and large influx of dim voters. Need some form of education to include US history and culture relative to assimilation.

J2, I know dims aren’t ignorant, so where does that leave them …?

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 16, 2018 2:33 PM
Comment #435792


WW, IMO the fed can control just about everything/everybody in this country and in some foreign countries. For instance, immigration across the border can be controlled by a wall but corporations and dims don’t want a wall built. Takes 60 votes and the GOP can only deliver about 40 something. The gov’t can do the job but corpocracy has been able to prevent the building of a wall for decades.

Once immigrants are forced to come in legally, should be thru a US emb/counsulate, then those here can be controlled thru work visas, rights granted and so on …

Same for the drug problem. Build a wall, check incoming people, goods/merchandise, and so on. Big pharmas, national and international are a big part of the problem, or corpocracy.

As to crime, I think Trump is doing a good job with ‘federal’ crime such as illegal immigrant gangs, drug pushers and so on… Most crime is a state gov’t problem and many of the states are criminal in things like setting up sanctuary cities, protecting illegal aliens and so on …

The federal gov’t could take care of any problem we have were it not for copocracy or the influence of sordid parties like the dims.

What is needed? Anti-trust law to break up those too big to fail like google who feel powerful enough to operate in a partisan manner and expect to get away with it. This thing of the dims weaponizing the US gov’t to take down wanna be Presidents is a different animal. May take a civil war to put that genie back in the box…

I like your response to j2, re Trump cultivism. My feelings exactly. That sorry assed LBJ biggly damaged the US.

Trump may go off the rails over the next six years but, thru far, he has saved the US from a socialist/communist takeover which would surely have happened within a few short years, had Trump not won the presidency. One only need to review some of d.a.n’s list of accomplishments by Trump to realize the progress we have made in two short years. He saved the country and I’m biggly looking forward to six more years of ‘Trumpism Cultivism’ as the left likes to say.

In the interim, I hope Trump has a great sex life for the coming six years. Also, hope he would record his escapades and make them available to the DNC in a timely manner.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 16, 2018 3:12 PM
Comment #435821
j2t2 wrote: As if those opposed to Trump signed some sort of a loyalty contract to Trump. Zeig Heil Roy, but here in America we pledge allegiance to the country, not the president.
Here we go again. For j2t2, everything is about NAZIs, fascists, etc. NAZIs!!! NAZIs!!! NAZIs!!! Zeig Heil!!!
j2t2 wrote: Mr. Art of the deal couldn’t even get his own party to give him money to build a useless wall.
True. That was a failure. The wall is only a fraction of the changes that are also needed (i.e. eVerify; changes to laws that are being abused; prosecute greedy illegal employers; potential changes to the 14th amendment; eliminating benefits to illegal immigrants; eliminating sanctuary cities and states; etc.);
j2t2 wrote: Nor could he live up to his campaign promise of getting Mexico to pay for the wall.
While border security has been increased, nothing has been done to require eVerify (and/or similar services), prosecute greedy illegal employers, and change laws to stop a myriad of abuses (abuses, that many Democrats and others on the left help to perpetuate).
j2t2 wrote: . . so many on the right, … , blame immigrants for the lack of decent jobs in this country.
Wrong again, and another lie to obfuscate!
The non-criminal illegal immigrants only looking for work are not the villians.

The true villians are:
(1) the greedy employers, who refuse to use eVerify and/or similar services;
(2) the government that fails to enforce existing laws, and created other laws that allow many abuses;
(3) many Democrats and many others on the left are the most despicable villians, for (despicably) pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, by pandering for 30+ years to illegal immigrants, for votes (via more representation in the House, via more U.S. House representatives, via apportionment of representatives (and electoral votes), based on population, based on the decennial CENSUS, which does not verify U.S. citizenship. Democrats are also fighting against a check-box on the CENSUS, despite the check-box being totally inadequate to prove citizenship. Democrats disguise their desire for power (for THEIR party) as compassion for illegal immigrants, while despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes. People are catching on to this despicable practice.
(4) many Democrats, who lie about the costs and the crime by illegal immigrants, and persistently perpetuate the lie that illegal immgrants commit fewer crimes than U.S. citizens, despite the numbers in the GAO-11-187 report, and Democrats perpetuate the lie that illegal immigrants provide a net benefit, despite the costs up to $296+ Billion per year in net losses (source: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/21/mass-immigration-costs-govt-296-billion-year-natio/).
(5) many Democrats lie about the level of crime commited by illegal immigrants, and perpetuate the lie that illegal immigrants commit less crime than U.S. citizens. That is false. At least 3,580 people are murdered every year by illegal immigrants in 5 states by a portion (i.e. 68%) of all illegal immigrants incarcerated in U.S. jails and prisons, based on the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) report GAO-11-187 published in 2011. The report was for a study of 249,000 non-citizens in U.S. prisons and jails during 7 years from 2003–2009, of a portion [about 68% of a total of about 364,950 illegal immigrants in state prisons, local jails, and federal prisons in year 2010] of the total population of criminal illegal immigrants who were incarcerated at the state and local levels in 5 states (Arizona, California, Florida, New York, and Texas).
The GAO 11-187 study found that these criminal illegal immigrants had been arrested for the following violent and drug crimes committed within the U.S.:

  • 25,064 homicides (NOTE: 25,064 homicides / 7 years = 3,580 homicides per year for 5 states for a study group of 249,000 (of a total of 354,950 illegal immigrants; extrapolating for the total population of incarcerated illegal immigrants, that is 3,580 / (249,000/364,950) = 5,247 homicides per year for 5 states by illegal immigrants);
  • 69,929 s*x offenses.
  • 94,492 weapons violations.
  • 213,047 assaults.
  • 504,043 drug crimes.
  • 43% of terrorism-related crimes were by illegal immigrants.
  • It cost $1.63 Billion per year (as of 2009) for the incarceration of illegal immigrants (for all states; $1.1 Billion for California alone).
  • Sources: www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-187 , www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf; compare the 3,580 homicides by illegal immigrants to all 17,250 homicides in the U.S. in year 2016, and 3,580 homicides per year in 5 states for a study group of 249,000 (only for 68% of all 364,950 illegal immigrants in state prisons, local jails, and federal jails). Those 3,580 homicides in 5 states by illegal immigrants is over 21% of ALL 17,250 homicides in the U.S. in 2016 (nation-wide).
  • (d) As of early year 2017, 32% of all persons in federal prison are illegal immigrants (Source: cis.org/Huennekens/32-Federal-Inmates-Are-Aliens ). Obama tries, still to this day, tries to minimize the impact of crime by criminal illegal immigrants. Is 43,580 homicides by illegal immigrants per year in 5 states something to be trivialized ?
  • j2t2 wrote: You [Roy Ellis] give a pass to the corporations that use technology to replace workers.
    That’s total B.S. Nobody stands in the way of progress through technological advancements.
    j2t2 wrote: You [Roy Ellis] forget how corporations have offshored jobs to the same countries some of these immigrants are coming from.
    No. More nonsense. In fact, it was majority of the Democrats who were against a reduction of the 35% corporate taxes (to 21% ; nearer to the global average corporate tax rate), which were driving corporations (and jobs) out of the U.S., and to nations with much lower corporate taxes.
    j2t2 wrote: You [Roy Ellis] turn a blind eye to the corporations that employ illegal immigrants.
    Nonsense. Roy, and the majority of conservative voters (i.e. non-politician) want eVerify (and/or similar services) to be a requirement for employment.

    Again, it is the majority of Democrats and others on the left that are fighting against eVerify.
    Democrat politicians have been pandering to illegal immigrants for 30+ years for votes, and cheap labor.
    Republican politicians went along for 30+ years, because they like the cheap labor.
    Only recently, have some Republicans finally realized that the Democrat party is growing their base via massive illegal immigration.

    j2t2 wrote: You [Roy Ellis] forget about those corporations that use H1 visas to bring immigrants here to work for lower wages.
    Nonsense. Politicians and corporate owners like it, but people like Roy, and myself, have never supported H1-B Visa (nor, the many abuses).
    j2t2 wrote: You praise corporate America as they use our military to expand overseas.
    More nonsense. The U.S. has over 800 military bases in over 70 countries, and a military presence in 150 (of 195) countries (not including the Navy or Marine Corps at sea). The cost for that is tremendous. There are still 40,000 U.S. Troops and 179 U.S. bases in Germany alone. Ther are still 50,000 U.S. troops and 109 U.S. bases in Japan. Is all of that necessary? Not likely. Many of these nations need to start help paying for their own defense.
    j2t2 wrote: But most disturbing of all, you allow yourself to be brainwashed by these same billionaires into believing immigrants are the problem.
    That is another big lie. Again, the non-criminal illegal immigrants only looking for work are not the villians.

    The worst villians are many Democrats who (despicably) pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, by pandering for 30+ years to illegal immigrants, for votes (via more representation in the House, via more U.S. House representatives, via apportionment of representatives (and electoral votes), based on population, based on the decennial CENSUS, which does not verify U.S. citizenship. Democrats are also fighting against a check-box on the CENSUS, despite the check-box being totally inadequate to prove citizenship. Democrats disguise their desire for power for THEIR party as compassion for illegal immigrants, while despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes. Democrats also perpetuate the lies about the massive cost (monetarily and in human life) of massive illegal immigrantion.

    j2t2 wrote: As a nation we really should get a handle on what we want for immigration moving forward. Trump isn’t the man to lead on this, as he has proven.
    Not true. Trump has tried harder than anyone before him, and illegal border crossings are down significantly.
    j2t2 wrote: Neither are his weak minded followers who believe all our problems will be answered if only we build a wall to keep people out.
    More effed-up clairvoyance by j2t2.

    We need more than ONLY a wall, and the majority of conservative voters understand this quite well.
    We also need to:

    • [1] Secure and continuously monitor the borders; the cost to do so will be far less than the $279 -to- $296 Billion in annual net losses due to illegal immigration (source#1: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/ ; source#2: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/21/mass-immigration-costs-govt-296-billion-year-natio/ ; source#3: fairus.org/search?keywords=cost+of+illegal+immigration );
    • [2] Pass laws to require eVerify (and/or similar services) to verify eligibility for employment in the U.S., and harshly prosecute greedy illegal employers with harsh fines that double, triple, or quadruple for subsequent violations, with jail-time for the administrators and/or owners of companies who are repeat offenders, and despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for profits;
    • [3] Arrest and deport ALL criminal illegal immigrants that have committed felonies; some criminal illegal immigrants are too dangerous to release since they could return; many illegal immigrants will self-deport when all of the magnets that attract illegal immigrants to the U.S. are eliminated;
    • [4] Protect U.S. citizens’ benefits and privileges, and deny those benefits and privileges to all illegal immigrants (i.e. welfare; food stamps; free healthcare; Medicaid; free housing; free education; jobs; driver licenses; voting; voter registration; etc.); Source#1: www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010179.html#434193 ; Source#2: www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010179.html#434260 ;
    • [5] Also, amend the 14th amendment to remove birthright citizenship; Also, pass a law that makes the first illegal trespass of the U.S. border a felony (not merely a misdemeanor); 2nd and subsequent illegal border trespasses are already a felony; also pass a law to end “catch and release”, and incarcerate illegal immigrants (who have already violated U.S. law(s)) until their disposition is decided by the court(s); also ensure that there are sufficient resources to house and maintain illegal immigrants until their dispostion is decided by the court(s);
    • [6] ONLY after the above are implemented, consider a pathway to citizenship (not amnesty) for illegal immigrants who can prove that they were brought to the United States by a parent when very young (when less than age X1-to-X2), have been living in the U.S. for Y1-to-Y2 years, have attended U.S. schools for Z1-to-Z2 years), have no parents or gaurdians that support them, can pass a basic English test, and have little or no connection to the nation in which they were born. That privilege does not extend to any other members or acquaintances of their family. This will be an expensive and painful process, and it won’t be perfect, but it will only get much worse the longer we wait to do it. The amnesty of 1986 quadrupled the number of illegal immigrants within the U.S.A.;
    • [7] Then, after [3] is mostly complete, deport ALL illegal immigrants that have committed misdemeanor crimes (i.e. assault; using fake ID; driving without a driver license, which they should not have anyway, and is therefore probably a fake license; speeding; reckless driving; disorderly conduct; vandalism; identity theft; illegal working in the U.S.; using fake Social Security numbers; etc.);
    • [8] Carefully scrutinize all requests for asylum, and change the asylum laws to prevent catch-and-release; and then enforce the laws required to obtain asylum in the U.S.;

    Posted by: d.a.n at December 17, 2018 1:16 PM
    Comment #435822

    CORRECTION in (d) above: Is 43,580—> 3,580 homicides by illegal immigrants per year in 5 states something to be trivialized (21% of the number of ALL homicides in year 2016) ?

  • (1) Obama released many from Gitmo, and they committed more terrorist acts, killing and injuring more people (www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jan/25/cory-gardner/how-many-released-guantanamo-bay-prisoners-commit-/); Seriously? As of 23-JAN-2017, several Americans (6 or more) have been killed by the released terrorists; the federal government reported that 17.6% (122 individuals) had been “confirmed of re-engaging” and 12.4% (86 individuals) were suspected of re-engaging in terrorism. George W. Bush released some too, so he is culpable too.
  • (2) Obama Released criminal illegal immigrants:
    • (a) In 2014, the Obama administration released from its custody 30,558 criminal illegal immigrants with a total of 79,059 convictions ( 2.6 convictions per criminal illegal immigrant), instead of deporting them.
    • (b) Between October 1, 2010 and July 21, 2015, the Obama administration released 124 criminal aliens who were later charged with murder-related crimes committed in the U.S. after their release, and before February 2016.
      Source: cis.org/Vaughan/Free-Kill-124-Criminal-Aliens-Released-Obama-Policies-Charged-Homicide-2010
  • Posted by: d.a.n at December 17, 2018 1:34 PM
    Comment #435823
    Roy wrote: J2, I know dims aren’t ignorant, so where does that leave them …?
    Good question.
    It makes them [many Democrats and others on the left] one of the groups that are the truly despicable villains, as explained why above.

    In time, the majority of voters will finally realize that the Democrats are on the wrong side, when enough voters finally understand that:

    • (01) that many Democrats, the Main Stream Media, and others on the left consistently lie about the level of cost and crime by illegal immigrants, and Democrats are (despicably) pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, by pandering for 30+ years to illegal immigrants, for votes (via more representation in the House, via more U.S. House representatives, via apportionment of representatives (and electoral votes), based on population, based on the decennial CENSUS, which does not verify U.S. citizenship,
    • (02) Democrats lie about crime by illegal immigrants, and refuse to report over 3,580 homicides per year by illegal immigrants.,
    • (04) Democrats are also fighting against a check-box on the CENSUS, despite the check-box being totally inadequate to prove citizenship. Democrats disguise their desire for power (for THEIR party) as compassion for illegal immigrants, while despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes.
    • (03) massive illegal (or legal) immigration is costing voters $296+ Billion per year in net losses (which does not include all costs, and does not include the cost of crime by illegal immigrants);
    • (05) many Democrats are calling for open borders;
    • (06) many Democrats are calling to abolish I.C.E. (Immigration and Customs Enforcement);
    • (07) many Democrats want another shamnesty, like the shamnesty of 1986;
    • (08) many Democrats essentially prove that they seemingly care more about illegal immigrants than they care about U.S. citizens, but the Democrats real motiviation is more votes (which is despicable).
    • (09) many Democrats want more low-life mayors like Libby Schaaf (Oakland, CA), who warns illegal immigrants (including criminal illegal immigrants) before an ICE raid to arrest criminal illegal immigrants;
    • (10) many Democrats want more sanctuary cities and states, like California, where Democrats have passed sanctuary city and sanctuary state laws that protect criminal illegal immigrants (i.e. an illegal immigrant by the name of Garcia Zarate (who had already been deported 5 times) can shoot and murder Kate Steinle, and be (www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/us/kate-steinle-murder-trial-verdict/index.html)for that murder, despite Zarate admitting to shooting the weapon that killed Kate Steinle (which should have been, at the very least, manslaughter);
    • (11) Democrats want to abolish the 2nd amendment, but many Democrats and many on the left call for restricting or eliminating 2nd Amendment rights, and say it is worth it “even if it saves only ONE life”, but conveniently ignore the 3,850 people murdered per year by illegal immigrants (21% of the total number of homicides in 2016); 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant (total prison population in 2003 was over 1.47 Million according to GAO Report GAO-05-646R);
    QUESTION: Why do Democrats do all of that (above)?
    ANSWER: For the votes. Democrats are pandering for votes. That is what is truly despicable.

    Posted by: d.a.n at December 17, 2018 3:19 PM
    Comment #435824

    Harvard-Harris Poll (17-to-19-JAN-2018; 980 persons polled):
    79%: (87%Rep, 79%Ind, 72%Dem): Want Merit Based Immigration
    79%: (93%Rep, 80%Ind, 68%Dem): Want Secure Borders
    61%: (84%Rep, 64%Ind, 40%Dem): Say Current Border is Inadequate
    68%: (78%Rep, 65%Ind, 62%Dem): Want to End the VISA Lottery
    54%: (85%Rep, 54%Ind, 30%Dem): Want physical and electronic border barrier
    60%: (93%Rep, 80%Ind, 68%Dem): Say NO to DACA Relatives

    QUESTION: Why do 68% of Democrats say they want secure borders, but only 30% of Democrats support physical and electronic barriers?
    ANSWER: Because many Democrats want the votes, Democrats are pandering for votes, and that is despicable.
    Democrats despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, by 30+ years of Democrats pandering to illegal immigrants, for votes (via more representation in the House, via more U.S. House representatives, via apportionment of representatives (and electoral votes), based on population, based on the decennial CENSUS, which does not verify U.S. citizenship. And still, the Democrats are also fignting against that Citizenship checkbox on the CENSUS form.

    Posted by: d.a.n at December 17, 2018 3:58 PM
    Comment #435830

    Great comments d.a.n. Say, it seems we are down to one dim who still wants to diddle in the middle.

    Many pols like to say the dims hate the president more than they love this country. Sorry asssed pols. Dims don’t hate Trump, they hate what he stands for, what he does, what he accomplishes everyday everyday. They can’t stand that he improved the economy, is going to build a wall, put NK in its place, killed the dim deal with Iran, and on and on and on… that’s why they hate Trump. I’m sure they are as entertained by trump’s personality as much as we all are. The GOP’ers don’t like to relate that they have stymied a wall, supported open borders, cheap immigrant labor and facilitated the dims in growing their voter base and on and on and on…

    Sorry assed politicians in both parties …Most are one molecule above dirt, IMO.

    One would think term limits would help drain the swamp but alas. Ex govies get around 1 yr house and 2 yr senate term limit rules to work for a lobbyist. They advise or go thru cutouts. They go straight to the WH admin. Still, stronger term limits would help dilute the swamp to some degree.

    We should be able to vote out a slew of GOP Trump haters in 2020. Should be able to reclaim the House as well.

    I would like to see Trump put the plastics and narcotics problem up front as major issues for the next election. Keep the wall as #1 but plastics and drugs would be great issues to run on, IMO.

    Posted by: Roy Ellis at December 17, 2018 8:56 PM
    Comment #435845
    As usual j2, you diagnosis is far off track, not thru some analysis but, of the political bias you stamp on all your comments. Start with the last one.


    Funny to hear you call it a diagnosis yet claim you aren’t sick Roy.

    I don’t care a whit if Trump screws ten women a day, has nothing to do with being President of the US. What I and, I would think, others care about is what he does.


    So a married man hiring prostitutes and screwing all these women is our president. He paid some of them to keep quiet while running for president. What could go wrong…right? Yet when Clinton womanized conservatives were in an uproar. It is the hypocrisy of the Trump supporter and the lack of character displayed by Trump that is the issue, Roy.

    Posted by: j2t2 at December 18, 2018 10:34 AM
    Comment #435847

    j2, The difference in Trump vs Clinton womanizing is Trump did it while he was a private citizen. Clinton was President and a Gov. while he was womanizing. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Rich KAPitan at December 18, 2018 11:56 AM
    Comment #435849

    Clinton wasn’t impeached for womanizing. He was impeached for lying to a grand jury.

    Get your facts straight, j2t2.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at December 18, 2018 12:46 PM
    Comment #435850

    I can’t wait for Democratics to be forced to give Trump a pass when he gets a blow job from an intern while sitting at the Resolute Desk. If they don’t give him a pass the Democratic’s double standard will be front and center again. But then, when isn’t the Democratic’s double standard front and center? When isn’t the hypocrisy obvious for all to see?

    It’s to America’s detriment that we all are taking the Democratic’s double standard and hypocrisy for granted. It’s a normal course of events in D.C. It’s as common as a well worn shop rag.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at December 18, 2018 12:52 PM
    Comment #435863
    Weary Willie wrote: Get your facts straight, j2t2.
    Ha! Good luck with that!
    j2t2 wrote: Yet when Clinton womanized conservatives were in an uproar. It is the hypocrisy of the Trump supporter and the lack of character displayed by Trump that is the issue, Roy.
    Nobody is condoning infidelity (not by Clinton or Trump).

    Unfortunately, many presidents have been proven to be unfaithful (i.e. Thomas Jefferson, Warren Harding, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Bill Clinton (the most publicized).

    Other presidents have been accused of infidelity, but remain unproven (i.e. George Washington, Arthur, Jackson, Lincoln, Cleveland, Wilson, Bush 43, Carter, and Trump).

    For Lincoln, Harding, Johnson, and Bush, and Eisenhower the issue never became a political liability.

    Many more politicians have had their hopes for election dashed when extramarital affairs were discovered.

    When Grover Cleveland’s political enemies tried to destroy him with chants of “Ma, Ma, where’s my pa?”, his supporters successfully countered with “Gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha!

    So, for those that want to (hypocritically) make an issue of infidelity of the OTHER party, they don’t have to look far to see examples of infidelity by politicians in their OWN party.

    Posted by: d.a.n at December 18, 2018 6:36 PM
    Comment #435877

    David Duke is the ONLY member of the KKK that is a Republican, but Democratics use him to tar the entire Republican party.
    Proof? Name another figure that has been exposed as both a KKK member and a Republican.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at December 19, 2018 10:29 AM
    Comment #435879

    Also, don’t forget:

    • Slavery (Democrats did that: source: www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Party ),
    • the KKK violence (Democrats did that; source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan),
    • Segregation (Democrats did that; source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats ),
    • Jim Crow laws (Democrats did that; source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws)
    • and many other historic abuses heaped on Americans in the U.S. by the Democratic Party and its supporters, the political party responsible for all of that racism is now the one constantly shouting:
        “You’re a Racist !, Bigot !, Fascist !, Nazi !
      … and (despicably) pitting different racial groups against each other (i.e. especially, when it comes to despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes).
    For many Democrats, it is par for the course.
    Since the founding of the Democratic Party, it has always tried to generate racial strife.

    And today, the Democrats (despicably) refuse to secure our borders (for a tiny fraction of the net losses (i.e. $296 Billion per year) due to illegal immigration, which does not include the massive cost of rampant crime by illegal immigrants (far more crime than those committed by U.S. citizens).

    NOTE: While 12 million illegal immigrants make up 3.66% of the total U.S. population (i.e. 328 Million), a study group of 249,000 illegal immigrants commited (on average) 3,580 homicides per year (9.8 per day) by illegal immigrants (in only 5 states (AZ,CA,FL,NY,TX) from 2003 to 2009), which is 21% of the total number of homicides (17,250) in the U.S. in year 2016). Democrats despicably ignore those facts, and constantly lie about the net costs and the crime), because Democrats despicably care more about power for THEIR party than the safety of U.S. citizens.

    Write your congresspersons and refer them to 71-page GAO Report GAO-11-187, which contains the following information (summarized below):

    • (1) 25,064 homicides (NOTE: 25,064 homicides / 7 years = 3,580 homicides per year for 5 states for a study group of 249,000 (of a total of 354,950 illegal immigrants in U.S. jails and prisons in year 2010; extrapolating, that is 3,580 / (249,000/364,950) = 5,247 homicides per year for 5 states);
    • (2) 69,929 s*x offense convictions;
    • (3) 94,492 weapons violation convicitions;
    • (4) 213,047 assaults convictions;
    • (5) 504,043 drug crime convictions;
    • (6) 43% of terrorism-related convictions were by illegal immigrants;
    • (7) $1.63 Billion per year (as of 2009) for cost of incarceration of illegal immigrants (for all states; $1.1 Billion was for California alone).
    • (8) compare 3,580 homicides per year (9.8 homicides per day) by illegal immigrants (in only 5 states by only a portion (i.e. 249,000 illegal immigrants; 68% of the total of 364,950 incarcerated in U.S. prisons and jails in 2010) to all 17,250 homicides in the U.S. in year 2016, which is 21% of the total number of homicides in the U.S. in 2016.
      Sources: www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-187 , www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf;
    • (9) As of year 2017, 32% of all persons in federal prison are illegal immigrants (Source: cis.org/Huennekens/32-Federal-Inmates-Are-Aliens ).

    Posted by: d.a.n at December 19, 2018 11:18 AM
    Post a comment