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California Routs GOP

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/17/rip-california-gop-republicans-lash-out-after-midterm-election-debacle-1000481

So wonderful to see the Calif GOP has gone down the tank. May they rest in peace, forever.

Now, we get to see how unimpeded dims operate. Won't take long. By the 2020's it should be very evident where the dim's are taking the state.

If the President doesn't get a handle on uncontrolled immigration I see Fla, Tx and more border states going the way of Calif.

Just like with N.K. it's coming down to crunch time with immigration.

I'm hopeful that the dim's will return Pelosi as Speaker. I think she can best lead the dim's in the 2020's. Already looking forward to getting the 2020's underway. It's going to be the election of record in the history of this country, IMO. Lock er up . . .

Posted by Roy Ellis at November 17, 2018 12:25 PM
Comments
Comment #434519

There’s really no way to verify the vote, is there? I figured this could happen.

Ask the person next to you if their vote counted? Then, when they say, “Of Course it Did!”, ask them to prove it.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 17, 2018 1:42 PM
Comment #434521
You are about to enter another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Twilight Zone!

Imagine rolling up to an ATM and inserting your Voter ID card. On the screen you see your ballot for the upcoming election. You press the button for the candidate you want to vote for. You change the vote for the person who you once supported but has made a grave error. You submit your ballot with a push of another button. It asks, “Are you sure?”. You push another button.

Here’s an original idea, you get a receipt! You get a statement reflecting your ballot when you vote or change your vote. You are confident you can change your ballot selections right up until midnight on election day.

Impossible? I think not. Is it verifiable? Yes, it is. Is it secure? Ask your credit card company or ATM manufacturer. Are ineligible persons allowed to vote? Again, ask your credit card company, because it is essentially the same process as using a credit card to withdraw cash.

Sorry, Democratics. You won’t get cash using the ATM voting booth.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 17, 2018 1:55 PM
Comment #434528
Roy Ellis wrote: If the President doesn’t get a handle on uncontrolled immigration I see Fla, Tx and more border states going the way of Calif.
Sad, but true.

What is the solution? As always, “The Truth” !
But, Republicans have to do a better job at communicating the truth, and the true costs (and the human costs) of illegal immigration.
The Republican Party has had their butts kicked on the illegal immigration issue, because Democrats have lied for decades, have despicably pandered to illegal immigrants (with promises of another amnesty, citizenship, welfare, sanctuary cities and states, anchor babies, food stamps, free eduction, free housing, drivers licneses which automatically registers them to vote, voting in some California electons, etc., etc., etc.), and despicably pitted U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, and sadly, have convinced many people that Democrat Party is their champion. The majority of U.S. citizens favor border security, less illegal immigration, and even less legal immigration. But, apparently, many Democrat voters care more for THEIR party.

Democrats really don’t want the immigration problems resolved, because IF Democrats really did want to help some illegal immigrants, the Democrats would have done something for “Dreamers” WHEN the Democrats had a 100%-filibuster-proof Congress for months (January-June) in year 2009 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act#2009). However, Democrats waited until late OCT-2009, and refused to address comprehensive reforms (i.e. against chain migration, border security, etc.), and the BILL was scrapped, because some Democrats in the Senate also did not support the BILL.

The Republicans have to do a better job at telling the truth about the huge cost of illegal immigration. After all, most (if not all) polls show that the majority of U.S. citizens want border security, and less illegal immigration.

  • Source: www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/poll-americans-want-tough-immigration-reform-the-wall-english-spoken
  • Weary Willie wrote: Imagine rolling up to an ATM and inserting your Voter ID card.
    That would be nice. One thing that helped a LOT was a full week of early voting in Texas (including Saturday and Sunday)!

    Other sources:

    • Cost: fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers
    • Cost: fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers
    • Cost: www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010179.html#434161
    • Crime: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/examples-serious-crimes-illegal-aliens/

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 17, 2018 4:02 PM
    Comment #434530

    d.a.n, do you have a total amount of dollars this country puts out for illegal immigration?

    Divide that total by the total number of citizens and we get a cost, a dollar amount, we can tell each person what it costs them to have illegals in this country. I think it would be a tremendous advantage to point at a person, any person, and tell them they will pay x amount of dollars this year for illegals in this country.

    Perhaps we should call it a tax and use the force of law to collect it. Make people feel the damage instead of staring east waiting for results to magically appear.

    Democratics haven’t met a tax they didn’t like. They ran on raising taxes many times. They didn’t specify a tax on what, but they offered to raise our taxes most clearly. Let’s give them a tax, calculated using the figures above, to pay for illegal immigrant expenses. No exemptions, no deductions, no loopholes. If you’re a citizen you pay $x.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at November 17, 2018 4:35 PM
    Comment #434534

    Roy, following is a brief history of the resurgence of Republican control in my state of Texas.

    “In 1976, Jimmy Carter became the last Democratic presidential candidate to carry Texas, and the tide was clearly turning when Democrats lost the gubernatorial election of 1978. Bill Clements was the first Republican governor since Reconstruction. By the 1990s Republicans had gained a strong foothold in the state, and throughout the 21st century they have been largely victorious. Currently, both houses of the Texas Legislature feature Republican majorities. At the federal level, Republicans hold both of the state’s Senate seats and 24 out of the possible 36 House of Representatives seats allotted to Texas.” Source: Wikipedia

    I am not concerned about Texas turning blue any time soon. We frown on illegal voting and enjoy responsive Republican government.


    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 17, 2018 6:04 PM
    Comment #434535
    Weary Willie wrote: d.a.n, do you have a total amount of dollars this country puts out for illegal immigration?
    No. But, using the lowest estimate of $116 Billion per year, and a U.S. population of about 328 Million, that comes to $357 per person (per year).

    Estimates range from $116 Billion, up to $279 Billion, and $327 Billion, but none of those estimates include all costs.

    However, that does not include all costs, because statistics are not available for many of the costs (e.g. cost of crime for victims and survivors of crime by illegal immigrants; the cost of displaced jobs for U.S. citizens; cost of displaced U.S. citizens who go to college and pay out-of-state-tuition, but illegal immigrants pay in-state tution; welfare fraud; Medicaid fraud; 70% of all babies born at Dallas Parkland Hospital are by illegal immigrants; voting by illegal immigrants; the cost of once almost irradicated diseases, such as one illegal alien in Santa Barbara, California infected 56 other people with tuberculosis as reported on 24-APR-2004, by the Santa Barbara Press-News, “Anatomy of an Outbreak”; etc., etc. etc.).

    FairUS.org estimates the cost for each individual state (source: fairus.org/search?keywords=cost+of+illegal+immigration), and then for the entire nation, which is estimated to be $116 Billion per year.

    Some other estimates have placed the total as high as $279 Billion and $327 Billion.
    It is hard to get all of the information, because Democrats do not want U.S. citizens to know how much it costs (not only money, but thousands of people that have been killed or harmed in numerous other ways).

    NOTE: Democrats and many on the left call for restricting or eliminating 2nd Amendment rights, and say it is worth it “even if it saves only ONE life.”

    However, apparently, many Demorats do not feel the same way about U.S. citizens (about 1,000 per year; exact numbers are not available) killed by illegal immigrants each year.
    Democrats will try to obfuscate and try to tell you that illegal immigrants commit less crime than U.S. citizens, but there is really no proof of that, because there has really been no thorough crime studies across all states.

    However, you have to wonder, because 12 million illegal immigrants is only 3.66% of the 328 Million U.S. population, but 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant.

    The following crime statistics are only for 7 states, and the numbers are shocking.
    Regardless, those are all crimes that should not have happened; crimes that were preventable.
    And none of that includes the estimated $279 Billion in annual net losses due to illegal immigration.
    Border states are hit much harder than northern states. For example, almost 100 over-run hospitals along the southern border have closed.

    A study by the (www.gao.gov/htext/d05646r.html) the GAO (GAO Report GAO-05-646R) found the following (for a study group of 55,332 illegal immigrants (about 12.7% of all 436,313) incarcerated during 1 year (1-JUL-2002 to 30-JUN-2003) in 7 of 50 states: Colorado, Florida, Montana, Oklahoma, Oregon, New Jersey, and North Carolina):

    • the study group of 55,332 illegal immigrants is only 12.7% of all illegal immigrants incarcerated in year 2003; the total number of people incarcerated in state and federal prisons and jails was 1,470,045 (in 2003, 29% (436,313) were illegal immigrants; as of 218, 32% of all persons in federal prison are illegal immigrants);
    • each illegal immigrant was arrested an average of 8 times;
    • 80% of all arrests were in 3 states: California(58%), Texas(14%), and Arizona(8%);
    • 97% were arrested more than once;
    • 38% were arrested 2-to-5 times;
    • 32% were arrested 6-to-10 times;
    • 26% were arrested 11 or more times;
    • 80% of arrestes occurred after year 1990;
    • 5,992 of all offenses were homicides (since year 1947), which is an average of 101 homicides per year (only for the study group 55,332 illegal immigrants in 7 of 50 states; extrapolating 101 for 7 states, that would be about 721 homicides per year in year 2003, 15 years ago);
    • Total Arrests: 459,614
    • Total Criminal Offenses: 691,890
    • Average number of criminal offenses per illegal immigrant: 13
    • Criminal offense: Drugs; Total offenses: Number: 166,722;
    • Criminal offense: Immigration (multiple offenses; the first trespass is only a misdemeanor): Total offenses: Number: 144,166;
    • Criminal offense: Traffic violations; Total offenses: Number: 55,060;
    • Criminal offense: Assault; Total offenses: Number: 50,958;
    • Criminal offense: Obstruction of justice; Total offenses: Number: 45,632;
    • Criminal offense: Burglary; Total offenses: Number: 38,689;
    • Criminal offense: Larceny/theft; Total offenses: Number: 31,883;
    • Criminal offense: Fraud, forgery, and counterfeiting; Total offenses: Number: 25,773;
    • Criminal offense: Weapons violations; Total offenses: Number: 22,263;
    • Criminal offense: Motor vehicle theft; Total offenses: Number: 20,950;
    • Criminal offense: Robbery; Total offenses: Number: 15,305;
    • Criminal offense: Stolen property; Total offenses: Number: 13,415;
    • Criminal offense: S*x offense; Total offenses: Number: 11,833;
    • Criminal offense: Disorderly conduct; Total offenses: Number: 8,768;
    • Criminal offense: Property damage; Total offenses: Number: 6,478;
    • Criminal offense: Homicide; Total offenses: Number: 5,992;
    • Criminal offense: Kidnapping; Total offenses: Number: 3,236;
    • Criminal offense: Arson; Total offenses: Number: 457;
    • Criminal offense: Other; Total offenses: Number: 24,310;

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 17, 2018 6:20 PM
    Comment #434555

    Where the Left rules, bad things happen. Read this monstrous horror story of evil fueled by ignorance and political pandering.

    “…autistic children who are not transgender are being exploited by the transgender lobby. They are being brainwashed into believing they are transgender.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6401593/Whistleblower-teacher-makes-shocking-claim-autistic.html

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 18, 2018 5:23 PM
    Comment #434579

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    Posted by: sahmat hussian at November 19, 2018 8:25 AM
    Comment #434587

    Definitely political correctness gone wrong:
    “It means that 150 autistic teenagers were given puberty blocker drugs which stop the body maturing” … “Parents are not told about this and there is no way of challenging these pupils who are convinced by others that they have a problem they almost certainly do not have. Tragically the end result could be irreversible surgical procedures.”

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 19, 2018 3:22 PM
    Comment #434588

    Tar and feathering of those responsible for this reprehensible behavior with these autistic teens is justifiable d.a.n.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 19, 2018 3:32 PM
    Comment #434592

    “I’m hopeful that the dim’s will return Pelosi as Speaker.”

    Good news Roy, Pelosi just hired Brenda Snipes to count the votes for the new speaker.
    LOL!!!

    Posted by: kctim at November 19, 2018 5:24 PM
    Comment #434599

    kc, I am surprised that some dim’s are standing against Pelosi. Tucker sez it’s sexism. I see it as a serious sign the dims are fractured going into the 2020. Tucker sez the dims are running on an agenda for ‘morality’. Man, that’s a hoot. I’ll be very surprised if Pelosi doesn’t continue as Speaker and, that should serve to help Trump, IMO.

    Royal, the GOP did well for the mid terms but so many won by such a small margin as to be alarming. The dims have enlarged their wins around most large cities and around the borders from Calif to NY. Granted, they threw tons of money at the race but that’s to be expected.

    If one considers the source of new dim voters I see immigrants that have been converted to new citizens, IMO. The ranks of the ‘party of ole white men’ are not being populated by these new citizens, IMO. The potential number for new citizens is somewhere between 12 and 20M, over time.

    Therefore, I believe President Trump must act quickly to throttle new citizenship and immigration for the foreseeable future. Not likely he will get much help from congress/senate.

    Just astounding that folks can gain access/asylum to the U.S. by getting a foot on U.S. soil, either by crossing a border or stepping off a plane.

    I believe the majority of the people would like to see immigration and citizenship reforms. The people’s interest in all this has been ignored for decades. Corpocracy/globalists ruled the day - until - until Trump came along …

    Thank you Mr. President for standing against corpocracy/globalism… build that wall !!

    Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 19, 2018 9:22 PM
    Comment #434600

    The wall is only 33% of the solution.
    Many tens of thousands come to the U.S.A. to have their baby, so that they have an anchor baby, and all of the welfare benefits that come with an anchor baby.

    70% of all babies born at Dallas Parkland Hospital are by illegal immigrants. One the parent(s) have an anchor baby, the parents get a blue passport, welfare, and many other forms of welfare, Medicaid, food stamps, free housing, free education, in-state tuitions, etc.

    One of the biggest loop holes if birthright citizenship. That need to be addressed due to the massive abuses.

    Welfare Use for Illegal Immgrants and Native Households in year 2012:

    • Any type of Welfare Use:
    • ############# (30% Native U.S. citizens)
    • ################################## (62% Illegal immigrants)
    • Food:
    • ########## (22% Native U.S. citizens)
    • ############################## (57% Illegal Immigrants)
    • Medicaid:
    • ######### 23% Native U.S. citizens
    • ########################## (51% Illegal Immigrants)
    • Cash welfare:
    • ####### (10% Native U.S. citizens)
    • ####(5% Illegal Immigrants)
    • Housing:
    • ### (6% Native U.S. citizens)
    • ## (4% Illegal Immigrants)
    Illegal immigration costs U.S. citizens $279 Billion in net losses per year: Source: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/

    Other Sources: www.dailypress.net/stories/articles.asp?articleID=13462
    Source: WhiteHouse.gov posted: According to one study, current immigration policy imposes as much as $300 BILLION annually in net fiscal costs on U.S. taxpayers.
    Source: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/21/mass-immigration-costs-govt-296-billion-year-natio/

    • [1] Secure and continuously monitor the borders; the cost to do so will be far less than the $279 Billion in annual net losses due to illegal immigration (source: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/ );
    • [2] Pass laws to require eVerify (and/or similar services) to verify eligibility for employment in the U.S., and harshly prosecute greedy illegal employers with harsh fines that double, triple, or quadruple for subsequent violations, with jail-time for the administrators and/or owners of companies who are repeat offenders, an despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for profits;
    • [3] Arrest and deport ALL criminal illegal immigrants that have committed felonies; some criminal illegal immigrants are too dangerous to release since they could return; many illegal immigrants will self-deport when all of the magnets that attract illegal immigrants to the U.S. are eliminated;
    • [4] Protect U.S. citizens’ benefits and privileges, and deny those benefits and privileges to all illegal immigrants (i.e. welfare; food stamps; free healthcare; Medicaid; free housing; free education; jobs; driver licenses; voting; voter registration; etc.);
    • [5] Also, amend 14th to remove birthright citizenship; Also, pass a law that makes the first illegal trespass of the U.S. border a felony (not merely a misdemeanor); 2nd and subsequent illegal border trespasses are already a felony; also pass a law to end “catch and release”, and incarcerate illegal immigrants (who have already violated U.S. law(s)) until their disposition is decided by the court(s); also ensure that there are sufficient resources to house and maintain illegal immigrants until their dispostion is decided by the court(s);
    • [6] ONLY after the above are implemented, consider a pathway to citizenship (not amnesty) for illegal immigrants who can prove that they were brought to the United States by a parent when very young (when less than age X1-to-X2), have been living in the U.S. for Y1-to-Y2 years, have attended U.S. schools for Z1-to-Z2 years), have no parents or gaurdians that support them, can pass a basic English test, and have little or no connection to the nation in which they were born. That privilege does not extend to any other members or acquaintances of their family. This will be an expensive and painful process, and it won’t be perfect, but it will only get much worse the longer we wait to do it. The amnesty of 1989 quadrupled the number of illegal immigrants within the U.S.A.;
    • [7] Then, after [3] is mostly complete, deport ALL illegal immigrants that commit misdemeanor crimes (i.e. assault; using fake ID; driving without a driver license, which they should not have anyway, and is therefore probably a fake license; speeding; reckless driving; disorderly conduct; vandalism; etc.);
    • [8] Carefully scrutinize all requests for asylum, and enforce the laws required to obtain asylum in the U.S.;
    IF Republicans don’t care about any of that, then perhaps they care about the longevity of THEIR own party, because it is being replaced, slowly but surely, by people that do not respect any of the U.S. immigration laws, nor many other U.S. laws.
    And don’t believe the lies about illegal immigrants committing less crime than U.S. citizens, because much of the data available does not prove that, and it also does not explain how 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant. Also, those are all crimes that should have never happened.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 19, 2018 10:27 PM
    Comment #434620

    Roy, every year more and more people join the leftist desire to be dependent on government. Their own personal comfort, convenience and feelings come before the rights of others. It’s only get to worse from here on out.

    Because of that, the democratic party has lurched into extremist territory. They condemn the country, the flag, our culture and our government. They engage in hateful identity politics to attack those who simply disagree with them, they support physical violence on their political opponents, and as J2 shows on a daily basis, they have mastered the ‘blame others for that which you yourself are guilty.’

    I am not the least bit surprised that the new democratic socialist party wants to replace liberal/progressive Pelosi with an even more extreme leftist.

    Posted by: kctim at November 20, 2018 9:22 AM
    Comment #434623
    kctim wrote: Because of that, the democratic party has lurched into extremist territory.
    Yes, and it was a H U G E lurch. Unfortunately, massive illegal immigration is benefiting the Democrat party, but at what cost to U.S. citizens?

    Wanting open-borders seems crazy, until it is realized what despicable the motive is, in order to acquire power via more representation in the House, via more representatives (and electors), based on population, based on CENSUS, which does NOT verify citizenship.

    For example:

    phx8 wrote: As for immigration, I would be fine with open borders.

    Did you notice in the news that the Mexican citizens are not too happy with the illegal immigrants? Mexico has offered the immigrants asylum, so how can ANY of the immigrants have any claim of asylum in the U.S. ?

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 20, 2018 10:28 AM
    Comment #434624

    With all due respect d.a.n, the financial cost is nothing when compared to the costs our country and people will suffer from leftist government.

    Posted by: kctim at November 20, 2018 11:05 AM
    Comment #434633

    There is some silver lining in the cloudy immigration debacle. It is reported that over one million illegals in this country have voluntarily left to return to their country of origin.

    When illegal immigration becomes painful to politicians, the problem will be fixed.

    Painful for a politician is bad press, letters, phone calls and demonstrations of complaint from constituents, loss of funding, and public outrage.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 20, 2018 4:40 PM
    Comment #434635

    Make a guess. Try and figure out who this word and speech challenged person is.

    “I mean, we — we are we are fraught with stuff,” he continued, “And — and so if that’s the case then the single most important thing that we have to invest in is not all — and look I’m a huge supporter of science and technological research and social science and, you know, evidence-based learning and all that good stuff. I’m — I’m — people call me Spock for a reason, I believe in reason and logic and all these enlightenment values, but the thing that really we have to invest in is people. We got to get people to figure out how they work together — in a — you know, how do we get people to work together in a cooperative, thoughtful, constructive way.”

    Clue: Has a Muslim name.
    Clue: His wife has “beautiful arms”.
    Clue: He is beloved by the Far-Left

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 20, 2018 5:12 PM
    Comment #434639

    Yeah, definitely an ‘O’ there Royal.

    Waiting on Hannity tonite to see if the dim’s ‘news’ releases stating that Trumps WH counsel has told him he will be impeached if he brings charges against Hillary is just more ‘fake news’ which I suspect it is…

    Mexico has voted to prevent their military from getting involved with the drug cartels along the border. I guess this is prior to the new President taking over next year, dunno. One would hope the new admin would void this new rule, otherwise, build that wall …

    Seems if a cartel member or a drug purveyor who is not a US citizen, is caught in this country they would be subject to a military tribunal.

    These crazi asylum laws are synonymous with the globalists/corpocracy stretching their arse over our heads and letting it go …

    LEADS ME TO TYPE IN CAPS WHICH, ACCORDING TO THE LIBERALS, MEANS YOUR MAD AS HELL, SCARING PEOPLE, AND SO ON …

    Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 20, 2018 8:54 PM
    Comment #434640

    dim’s knocking the President for ‘going easy’ on the Saudi Prince. Fake News has never addressed the 10-25M the Clinton’s took from the Saudis for their ‘foundation’ and whatever …And, what about the O admin ‘giving’ $1.75B in cash to Irans Mullahs? Iran being the worlds largest supporter of organized terrorism.

    Yup, ‘fake news’ what with all the msm’s parroting that Trump’s WH counsel told him he might be impeached if he went forward with ordering prosecution of Hillary and Comey. Trump made such statements throughout his campaign and Presidency. Nothing illegal about it. Thomas Jefferson ordered the prosecution of Aaron Burr and several other presidents did the same. But, hey, it must have sold a few papers, caught a few channel surfers for a moment in time …
    Trump told Hillary to her face on the campaign trail that if elected he would move to prosecute her for her email transgressions. Trump does what he says he will do.

    Lindsey Graham was just on Hannity saying he would go to the mat to see that Hillary, the corrupt FBI heads, and the FISA warrant would all be investigated/prosecuted under his watch if appointed judiciary char.

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    Comment #434665

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    Posted by: sahmathussian at November 21, 2018 8:17 AM
    Comment #434676

    Yup Roy, the quote is from the “O” man. Thanks for your other comments.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 21, 2018 5:20 PM
    Comment #434678

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    Posted by: d.a.n at November 21, 2018 6:57 PM
    Comment #434679

    Hey d.a.n., thanks for the video of the “O” man.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 21, 2018 6:59 PM
    Comment #434680

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    Posted by: d.a.n at November 21, 2018 7:01 PM
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