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Get Control Of Immigration To Stop A Socialist Takeover

I was never politically active but I have been moderately attentive to how things have gone. Tonight Tucker is talking about the difficulty of young folks in starting families. Like many young people are living with their parents, about a third have college degrees, the cost of homes are beyond so many.

Strong families have always been the bulwarks of the country's strength.

Reasons for these problems can primarily be attributed to globalism and immigration. Both the GOP and democratic liberals/progressives have tag teamed on the citizenry in pushing globalism and immigration. Big business got subsidized to move overseas and take advantage of cheap labor while the democrat party's ranks swelled with new citizens
The US family was/is barely replacing themselves with 2 to 2 ½ children per family unit. People were, in general, trying to cut costs and dampen population growth, both seen as desirable goals 30-40 years back. But, big business wanted new workers and the political parties wanted to grow their membership.

Their efforts were vividly on display for 8 years of the Obama administration. Lowest unemployment, most folks on welfare, and so on . . .

The GOP had done well tag teaming with the dems but, the dems, in pandering to the wants and needs of the new immigrants, grew their numbers. So much so they became emboldened to invoke divisive policies and tout the GOP and their conservative base with every slur in the book. The GOP was too timid to fight back. Their base became restless and when Donald Trump came down the elevator conservatives were ready for him.

Had the dems won the 2016 election the GOP would have never won a follow on election. The party is filled with left leaning/socialist leaders determined to regain power thru any means, legal or not. I'm sure the read is aware of the dem conspiracy to weaponize the govt to take down Trump the candidate and, upon his election, to take down a sitting president.

Now, many of the timid GOP big biz supporters are gone/leaving. Very evident at today's press conference that the dems are out of control. Some MSM are saying Trump is trying to start a civil war.

It may come to that. The GOP had a number of squeaker wins in states that were historically red in the past. It's clear the dems have control of the coastal areas and nearly all large urban areas. If the dems are able to bring over large numbers of immigrants waiting/wanting citizenship or voting rights the GOP will never win another election. It's that close and it's very evident.

The old GOP guard and the dems want the folks to believe that they don't like Trump because he is a 'playboy', adulterer, liar, incompetent, immoral and they are so so so hurt. Bullshit. They are driven crazy in that Trump came down the elevator touting centrist/populist views and has worked REAL hard to carry them out, very successfully.

The President is working to knock the blocks from globalism and from full blown immigration, 'just walk right in', 'fly right in', 'float right in', and so on . . . The President needs curtail large numbers of immigrants gaining citizenship or we will be destroyed by a one party socialist movement that has its hands on the throat of gov't as we speak .. . I was pleased to see that a handful of pols and a few FOX folks gave voice to my sentiments over the last day or so.

Hard to believe that folks have been so intimidated to do nothing to do fight back. It's like Rome burning all over again. . . being eaten from the inside.

We need to get behind Trump and get this immigration thing straightened out, real quik.

Posted by Roy Ellis at November 7, 2018 9:58 PM
Comments
Comment #434092

Yesterday a group of antifa showed up at Tucker’s home. They shouted that he was a racist, knew where he lived, and so on … His wife took refuge in a closet and called the cops.

The dims broke Tucker’s oak door. I suggest the cops were there handing out crowbars…

This is an example of political terrorism, serious stuff and should be treated as such, IMO. But, crickets …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 8, 2018 11:20 AM
Comment #434093


Seems I’m not alone in thinking things ain’t going swell. This article yesterday.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-are-the-chances-that-americas-disunion-turns-into-civil-war-2018-11-07

Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 8, 2018 11:39 AM
Comment #434094

Keith Mines’ prediction of a 60% chance of civil war in 10-to-15 years seems a bit of a stretch (but, not impossible).

Many of the people committing politically motivated violence are being arrested, and many scatter like cockroaches when the police arrive.

At any rate, who do you think owns the most guns?
Perhaps that is why Democrats want to abolish the 2nd amendment?

Posted by: d.a.n at November 8, 2018 12:46 PM
Comment #434096
At any rate, who do you think owns the most guns?

Guys like this

Perhaps that is why Democrats want to abolish the 2nd amendment?

Which dem has ever said to abolish the 2nd amendment? HAs anyone in Congress attempted to do this? Meanwhile any attempt to stop mass killings is meant with more of the big lie from guys like you and Roy. This thread being proof positive.

Meanwhile fascist like Trump want to abolish the 1st amendment to stop the flow of real news getting to the people.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 8, 2018 3:06 PM
Comment #434098

https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/repeal-the-second-amendment-6


More examples?

“Meanwhile fascist like Trump want to abolish the 1st amendment to stop the flow of real news getting to the people.”

Nothing has been done to actually abolish the 1st Amendment, and so far the only people actively trying to stop the flow of speech are leftists and left-wing tech companies.
As usual, nothing to back up your claim.

Posted by: kctim at November 8, 2018 3:54 PM
Comment #434102
Nothing has been done to actually abolish the 1st Amendment, and so far the only people actively trying to stop the flow of speech are leftists and left-wing tech companies.

Two things kctim. First I supply backup quite a bit. You guys hold what I supply to a much higher standard, if you bother to look at it at all, then the standard you guys use to try to make your points.

Second when the White House shares doctored videos to attack the press it is just as much a sign they want to abolish the 1st amendment as much as dems want to abolish the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 8, 2018 6:52 PM
Comment #434104

Absolute hypocrisy - dims protesting that Trump is sticking his nose in DOJ operations while knowing that the Obama admin weaponized the entire federal gov’t in going after Trump as a candidate and then, as a sitting President. If that ain’t the flea crawlin up the elephants leg …

dims deserve no respect … the party should be disbanded.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 8, 2018 7:03 PM
Comment #434105
Absolute hypocrisy - dims protesting that Trump is sticking his nose in DOJ operations while knowing that the Obama admin weaponized the entire federal gov’t in going after Trump as a candidate and then, as a sitting President. If that ain’t the flea crawlin up the elephants leg …


And how many investigations has the repub majority started to get all these “weaponized feds” Roy? Why if your statement has any truth what so ever would a Trump administration, and a repub majority in the HoR and the Senate not go after the masses of people in the “weponized fed” and bring them to justice? I think you have fallen victim to the big lie once again. Or you have advanced in the movement to the point it is your job to fire up the rubes that fall for this QAnon lies. The only hypocrisy is yours.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 8, 2018 7:18 PM
Comment #434106

It does seem a bit of a lurch to prosecute a couple of hundred people from the Obama admin, including Obama. But, some number around 75 - 125 should not over burden the courts too badly.

J2, it’s a conspiracy spread across the US govt and over a span of more than a year. Additionally, holdovers from the Obama admin, like the FBI crew, stood in the way of investigators with many still in gov’t positions.

But, I’m sure that we’ll get um …

Hearing this evening that the DC police will treat the Tucker Carlson case as a hate crime. Wrong, imo.

This was a political act and that is different than just normal hate. political hate is a way more dangerous thing.

Political terrorism is a more correct assessment. I’m sure of that… their actions were designed to terrorize.

j2, do you think the dims can steal the Fla gov. race for Gillium?

Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 8, 2018 8:31 PM
Comment #434125

Roy
they’re trying to steal the senate race as well.

Posted by: dbs at November 9, 2018 6:31 AM
Comment #434127

They stole some races in Northern Indiana. 22000 absentee ballots were found to be “not counted”. Out of 270,000 voters, 22,000 ballots suddenly show up and give three races to Democratics.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 8:50 AM
Comment #434128

Acosta was way out of line. What other reporter does that?

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 8:51 AM
Comment #434131

Kctim, the move on petition shows that in about a year 5700 people have signed the petition. That’s smaller than the number of proud boys around the world. Statistically non-existent when you think around 55,000,000 voted for dem candidates in the mid terms. I think we have had 3 times that many killed by gun in the same time frame.


Of course how many of them are dems and how many are other parties we don’t know. I didn’t notice any dem lawmakers in those signatures either.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 9, 2018 10:03 AM
Comment #434132

J2,
If you take the time to supply a link, I always try to look at it. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t know, and be able to show, that your links are primarily to biased opinions that support what you want to believe. It is one of the worst cases of confirmation bias that I have ever seen.

You posted a link supposedly proving that the Proud Boys attacked innocent antifa. I provided proof that shows antifa was the aggressors. That is not holding you to a higher standard, that is simply pointing out that you are wrong.

“Second when the White House shares doctored videos to attack the press it is just as much a sign they want to abolish the 1st amendment as much as dems want to abolish the 2nd amendment.”

Acosta’s credentials were taken away because he refused to respect the rules and for preventing the intern from grabbing the mic. The video’s from the WH and CNN both show that. If you want to believe that the WH is involved in conspiracy and using rank amateurs to further that conspiracy, go for it.

The fact of the matter is that it is Acosta, not the press, that is barred from WH press conferences. No bills have been passed to prevent the press from reporting. That isn’t even close to the evidence showing dems attacking the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: kctim at November 9, 2018 10:41 AM
Comment #434134

j2t2 is like the guy walking up to a molehill and then turning to the taxpayer and demanding the purchase of climbing gear and a ski lift.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 11:21 AM
Comment #434135
j2t2 wrote: Which dem has ever said to abolish the 2nd amendment?
Yes:
  • Congressman Rep. Major Owens Proposed the Repeal of the 2nd Amendment, by introducing a resolution twice to repeal the Second Amendment.
      www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19608552/major-owens-second-amendment-repeal/
  • Retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens calls for repeal of the Second Amendment: www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-second-amendment-kass-0329-story.html
  • Democrats in Congress tried to ban “assault-style” weapons in 1994, but put a 10-year sunset provision in the law. It survived court challenges at the time, but when the 10-year term had passed, the majority control of Congress had also passed from the Democrats (who had enacted the ban) to the Republicans, who let it lapse.
      www.npr.org/2016/06/15/482206221/gun-control-advocate-recalls-motivation-for-1994-assault-weapons-ban
kctim, Thanks for the link that proves (again) that j2t2 repeatedly lies, and/or doesn’t have a clue about the truth:More proof of anti-2nd-amendment Democrats:
  • 39% of Democrats want to repeal Second Amendment: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/28/repeal-2nd-amendment-cry-resonates-39-percent-demo/
  • DNC Vice Chair Suggests It’s Time Democrats Repeal the 2nd Amendment: www.dailywire.com/news/28955/dnc-vice-chair-suggests-its-time-democrats-push-emily-zanotti
  • A top Louisiana Democrat suggests repealing 2nd Amendment: www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/article_4e3c27f8-3761-11e8-89ff-8bda105787e9.html
  • U.S. Reps. Alcee Hastings and Debbie Wasserman Schultz support several new restrictions on firearms, including banning assault weapons and raising the age for buying some firearms, but their positions differ somewhat on the 2nd Amendment: www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-reg-wasserman-schultz-second-amendment-20180329-story.html
  • Over 1/3 of Democrats would repeal 2nd amendment: www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/repeal-second-amendment-almost-half-democrats-say-yes/
  • Repeal the 2nd Amendment: www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/opinion/repeat-repeal-second-amendment.html
  • Democrat Chronicle: Let’s Repeal the 2nd Amendment: www.democratandchronicle.com/story/opinion/guest-column/2018/02/16/lets-repeal-second-amendment/345365002/
  • Democrats attack 3 Amendments, including the 2nd Amendment: www.investors.com/politics/editorials/democrats-now-attack-3-of-the-10-bill-of-rights/
  • Advisory referendum to seek repeal of 2nd Amendment in Oak Park Township: www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/oak-park/news/ct-oak-second-amendment-tl-1013-20161007-story.html
Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 11:34 AM
Comment #434136
j2t2 stupidly wrote: Meanwhile fascist like Trump want to abolish the 1st amendment to stop the flow of real news getting to the people.
Nonsense.

Jim Acosta was rude, and out-of-line. He wasn’t asking questions, he was giving his own opinion. It is also rude to other reporters, who lose a chance to ask a question. Trump did not call ALL of the media “the enemy of the people”. He calls only some persons like Jim Acosta, and only some news companies like CNN and MSNBC, “Fake News”, because the report a lot of lies, of which they place on the front page, but all of the retractions and corrections are on the next-to-last page. But, as usual, j2t2 and similar ilk attempt to twist the truth.

The 1st Amendment is alive and well. How else could CNN and MSNBC be free to publish so much Fake News ?!?

j2t2 wrote: Two things kctim. First I supply backup quite a bit. You guys hold what I supply to a much higher standard, if you bother to look at it at all, then the standard you guys use to try to make your points.
“Supply backup”?

Nonsense. For example, you claimed (above) that no one in Congress ever asked for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment, without proof. However, your statement was false (again), as shown here.

j2t2 wrote: Second when the White House shares doctored videos to attack the press it is just as much a sign they want to abolish the 1st amendment as much as dems want to abolish the 2nd amendment.
I watched those two videos repeatedly, and see no difference. Sounds like another Democrap conspiracy.

Jim Acosta would not relinquish control of the microphone. He also was not asking questions; he was giving his opinions. That alone is enough reason for Jim Acosta to be disqualified.

Claims of abolishing the 1st Amendment are about as stupid as claims that no Democrats ever called for the repeal of the 2nd amendment.

j2t2 wrote: And how many investigations has the repub majority started to get all these “weaponized feds” Roy? Why if your statement has any truth what so ever would a Trump administration, and a repub majority in the HoR and the Senate not go after the masses of people in the “weponized fed” and bring them to justice? I think you have fallen victim to the big lie once again.
More hypocrisy and nonsense.

Especially, since one could say the same thing about almost 2 years of “Russian Collusion” investigations (all Democrats too), that have not found a shred of evidence. So, who has fallen for the “bit lie once again”?

Also, there was definitely some favoritism and bias in the FBI, DOJ, and IRS, and many have disgraced themselves (i.e. Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Page, Loretta Lynch, Lois Lerner. A federal judge approved $3.5 Million settlement from the IRS to conservative groups targeted by the IRS.
In a legal settlement, the IRS “expresses its sincere apology” for mistreating a conservative organization called Linchpins of Liberty — along with 40 other conservative groups — in their applications for tax-exempt status. The consent order says the IRS admits it wrongly used “heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays” and demanded unnecessary information as it reviewed applications for tax-exempt status. The order says, “For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology.”

j2t2 wrote: Which dem has ever said to abolish the 2nd amendment? HAs anyone in Congress attempted to do this? … Of course how many of them are dems [calling for repeal of 2nd Amendment] and how many are other parties we don’t know. I didn’t notice any dem lawmakers in those signatures either.
Wrong again:
  • Congressman Rep. Major Owens Proposed the Repeal of the 2nd Amendment, by introducing a resolution twice to repeal the Second Amendment.
      www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19608552/major-owens-second-amendment-repeal/
  • Retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens calls for repeal of the Second Amendment: www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-second-amendment-kass-0329-story.html
  • Democrats in Congress tried to ban “assault-style” weapons in 1994, but put a 10-year sunset provision in the law. It survived court challenges at the time, but when the 10-year term had passed, the majority control of Congress had also passed from the Democrats (who had enacted the ban) to the Republicans, who let it lapse.
      www.npr.org/2016/06/15/482206221/gun-control-advocate-recalls-motivation-for-1994-assault-weapons-ban
More: http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010179.html#434135

It must be nice to live in your own little world, where you can believe anything you want?

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 12:17 PM
    Comment #434139

    Jim Acosta is a white male. Why would the dims (election is over) be supportive of a white male? More hypocrisy.

    Broward Co has found 80k uncounted ballots. j2?

    Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 9, 2018 1:06 PM
    Comment #434141

    Sneaky Snipes found 80,000 more ballots from where (in Broward County, FL)?

    j2t2 most likely has a very plausible answer for it.

    Even some Democrats are accusing Sneaky Snipes of breaking the law.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 1:12 PM
    Comment #434142

    A law suit has been filed against Broward County Supervisor of Elections, Brenda Snipes and Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections, Susan Bucher, accusing them of not being able to provide accurate totals of how many ballots remain left to be counted. It seems they conveniently found 80,000 new ballots.

    It will be interesting to see how many of those 80,000 ballots are votes for Democrats, how many are by dead people, illegal immigrants, duplicates (i.e. voting twice), etc.?

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 1:18 PM
    Comment #434143

    Oh no! They are counting votes! Even absentee ones! And provisional ballots!

    Everyone enjoy the way coverage of the caravan evaporated? Trump & FOX stoked fear and bigotry and hatred for the election. Next day, POOF! All gone.

    The nomination of Whitaker to become Acting Attorney General will not stand. He needs the advice and consent of the Senate. That will never happen. Whitaker was a scammer. Nice choice, by the way. Trump says he doesn’t know him. That’s a lie. Trump has met him many times.
    Whitaker should recuse himself for two reasons: 1) he acted as attorney for Sam Clovis during an appearance for a Grand Jury during the Russian probe. That is a hard example of a conflict of interest, and 2) Whitaker wrote and made numerous appearances on tv denouncing the Russian probe. That is the appearance of a conflict of interest, which is also disqualifying.

    Great comment by Michelle Obama about just how despicable Trump is with his Birtherism. The racism and bigotry of Trump will NEVER be acceptable. NEVER!

    WW, if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences. Violence is wrong. He has the right of free speech, of course. But spreading hatred and bigotry has consequences. Decent people will not accept it, nor should they.

    Hey, RF, did you like my election prediction? Hope you kept it! Pretty darn good. Called it within a few seats for both the House and Senate, as well as the down ticket items. That was a blue wave. A lot of Trump supporters are just now it.

    Posted by: phx8 at November 9, 2018 1:19 PM
    Comment #434144

    All these ‘new’ migrant citizens wouldn’t know the difference between a book on the Constitution and a civics book. Why? They wouldn’t read either.

    Trump needs to find a way to stop or drastically slow the number of migrants coming in and there has to be some sembalance of assimilation for those remaining.

    If Snipes is found guilty of election fraud she needs to do life, IMO … Political crime should be punished to the max.

    Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 9, 2018 1:33 PM
    Comment #434147

    Tucker Carlson doesn’t ‘spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX’. FFS.
    He has a different opinion than you, Phx8. People should not ‘expect consequences’ for simply having a different opinion than their political opponents.
    Decent people are the one’s condemning the actions of these dangerous leftists, especially when they are terrorizing women and children.

    I know it’s hard for those on the left to look past their needs for immediate, emotional gratification, but don’t you ever think about what the lefts support of these anti-American groups is leading to?
    Do you really want right-wing leaders calling for incivility the same way left-wing leaders are? Do you really want right-wingers out there harassing, intimidating and threatening their political opponents, the same way leftists are today? Do you really want right-wingers out there committing acts of violence against their political opponents, the same way leftists are today?

    What the he11 do you think is going to happen if the right starts embracing their extremists the same way democrats and their media are already embracing their extremists?
    If you can’t get total submission, violence is all that’s left?

    You guys have gone full blown nuts.

    Posted by: kctim at November 9, 2018 2:51 PM
    Comment #434148
    hx8 wrote: if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences.
    What (exactly) did Tucker Carlson say that was racist?

    I see a lot of left news outlets claiming racism, but each instance appears to be severely twisted. So, exactly what has Tucker Carlson said that is racist?

    Really, IF anyone has proof, I’d really like to see the proof.

    phx8 wrote: Predictions:
    • The blue tsunami delivers the House. Let’s say a 45 seat pickup.
    • Governor races go BIG for the Democrats. This does not receive much national attention other than the GA & FL races, but it is extremely important. If the GOP loses the governships of states gerrymandered in their favor, it will bode ill for holding onto the House for the next 14 years.
    • The Senate is too close to call on election night, but ultimately stays 51-49 GOP.
    phx8 wrote:Hey, RF, did you like my election prediction? Hope you kept it! Pretty darn good… . That was a blue wave.
    No, it was more like a tiny blue ripple, or a blue tinkle.

    Also, this 2018 mid-term made history in that this election was only the 3rd mid-term election in over 103 years in which the IN-PARTY won seats in the Senate (in a mid-term).

    • The Senate is currently: 51(+2) Republican(+1VP vote); 46(-2)Democrats; 2 Independent; 3 undecided (FL,AZ,MS likely Republican)
    • The House is currently: 197(-30) Republican, 225(+30) Democrat, 13 undecided thus far;
    • Governorships: 26(-6)Republicans, 23(+7)Democrats, 1 undecided (GA likely Republican);

    For the 435 in the House, a change of 30 seats is only a 6.897% change of seats in the House.
    For the 535 in Congress, a change of +28 seats (+30(House), -2(Senate)) for Democrats is only a 5.23% change of seats in Congress.
    The seats flipped in the House is near the average of 32 seats (since year 1855).
    The largest loss ever, since 1855 was a loss of 116 seats by Democrats in 1895 (54th Congress).

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 3:28 PM
    Comment #434149

    Broward County has done shady things in the past, so it is not unreasonable to believe they are up to some dirty tricks again.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 4:07 PM
    Comment #434150
    kctim wrote: You guys have gone full blown nuts.
    That’s putting it mildly.

    I think the vast majority of people on this blog, and in this nation, would be ashamed if they wrote the crap written here by j2t2, phx8, and ohrealy. Anyone who disagrees with them is a racist, fascist, Nazi, beastialist, Brown Shirt, traitor, etc.

    And j2t2 says he is very proud of all of it:

    • [01] j2t2 wrote: I am proud of each and every one of my comments you have listed here. In fact I am especially proud of the donkey show comment [see #09 below] you had so much trouble with.
    • [02] j2t2 wrote: Weary, I haven’t said you [Weary Willie] are a Nazi.
    • [03] j2t2 wrote: I am not calling anyone a Nazi.
    • [04] j2t2 wrote: you complain about the fascist tag you guys on the right have earned.
    • [05] j2t2 wrote: In fact I have said many times here on WB [that] you conservatives here on WB [WatchBlog] remind me of the people of Germany in the late 20’s and early 30’s.
    • [06] j2t2 wrote: Welcome to Trumps America, Zeig Heil !
    • [07] j2t2 wrote: The people of Germany, a lot of good people fell for this type of blaming those different from us and look where it lead, they were Zeig Heiling to a dictator a few years later.
    • [08] j2t2 wrote: It may not be fascism, it may be oligarchy that is the problem but never the less you guys are helping to turn us into something we don’t want to be.
    • [09] j2t2 wrote (comparing conservatives on Watch Blog to “Beastialists” or those that like to watch Beastiality): I didn’t imply anything of the sort. This is what I said “What’s the difference between the Gringo [a disparaging and/or racist term] tourist at the “Tijuana donkey show” and the conservatives on WB [Watchblog] that believe the repubs on the intelligence committee actually have something of substance to show the American people?”
    • [10] j2t2 wrote (comparing Trump supporters to Nazis): Oh look a Trump rally [see video of Nazis supporters in 1939] . God , the flag, nationalism, returning America to the people who founded it, and a liberal protestor to beat on.
    • [11] j2t2 wrote: How sad D. that you would think that calling names is your best argument…
    • [12] j2t2 wrote: IMHO you guys are falsely setting liberals and dems up for persecution in the coming years.
    • [13] j2t2 wrote: I look at you guys [Republicans and conservatives on WatchBlog] and see the good people, and you are good people, that were mislead by the fascist [Hitler] of the last century.
    • [14] j2t2 wrote (blames Russia for 2016 election): Who gives a f**k Obama is gone, Clinton is gone. Trump is here and it is in part due to Russian interference in the election.
    • [15] j2t2 wrote: Neither am I a “build a wall on one border to keep the brown guys out” type.
    • [16] j2t2 wrote: You have turned into a far right troll who spends his time instigating others into anger.
    • [17] j2t2 wrote: Why would the same people who insulted and lied about Obama for 8 years think they deserve respect now that Trump is president?
    • [18] j2t2 wrote (blaming Republicans and conservatives): Just doesn’t compare to [pipe]bomb attacks on political opponents does it?
    • [19] j2t2 wrote: Yet here we are with conservatives hanging their hats on fearmongering and hatred as a means to win elections.
    • [20] j2t2 wrote (again, comparing conservatives on Watch Blog to Beastialists or those that like to watch Beastiality): So D., did anybody have an answer to the question? “What’s the difference between the Gringo [a disparaging and/or racist term] tourist at the “Tijuana donkey show” and the conservatives on WB [Watchblog] that believe the repubs on the intelligence committee actually have something of substance to show the American people?”.
    • [21] j2t2 wrote: Now you act surprised and try to deflect the blame! Go f**k yourselves. Point the finger at yourselves for buying into the stupid propaganda you have bought into.
    • [22] j2t2 wrote: I mean I don’t call anyone that I disagree with names, just those that support the far right or are politically on the far right.
    • [23] j2t2 wrote: As far as the synagogue massacre conservatives have only the conservative media and their lies to blame for dehumanizing Jews once again. Look at the code word you guys have used for attacking Jews for the past few years.
    • [24] j2t2 wrote: In fact right now I’m rather proud that you have spent the time going through the archives hunting for my words of wisdom.
    Seriously, you should see a doctor.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 4:20 PM
    Comment #434151

    FL is very corrupt. They should do vote by mail.

    Governor Rick Scott took the 5th amendment 75 times when he was CEO of a company that committed the largest Medicare fraud ever, up to that time.

    The AG, Pam Bondi, Dropped FL out of the Trump University lawsuit after Trump paid her campaign $25,000. Trump attempted to conceal it, but was caught and fined for breaking tax law.

    There is a good reason bad things happen all the time in FL. Not just botched elections, or grossly corrupt people put in charge. Weird stuff happens there too. It is a running joke in my family. Anytime one homeless guy eats another homeless guy’s face, or an alligator ate a dozen pet dogs, you can bet it happened in FL.

    Posted by: phx8 at November 9, 2018 4:36 PM
    Comment #434152

    Larry King, long time host on CNN, said “CNN stopped doing news a long time ago.”

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 4:47 PM
    Comment #434153

    Neither of who have anything to do with counting votes.

    Perhaps you should tell us all about Brenda Snipes, Phx8?

    Posted by: kctim at November 9, 2018 4:49 PM
    Comment #434154

    “You guys have gone full blown nuts.”

    Sad, but true kctim. Perhaps someone should publish the address of media leftys. It would be interesting if a nasty crowd showed up at Jim Acosta’s home to terrorize him and his family.

    I hope that doesn’t happen. We have legal and moral ways to stop these political terrorists. They are the mobsters; not us.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2018 5:13 PM
    Comment #434155

    kctim,
    Um, you do know Larry King now works for the American version of Russia Today, right? LOL. Yep! It’s true! According to Larry King, Russia Today is one of the few channels “doing news.”

    So you are going to quote an RT broadcaster criticizing CNN. Sweet sassy molasses! It just keeps getting worse. Maybe you and RF can exchange RT links, really get up to speed on Russia’s view of media outlets that dare to criticize Trump.

    Posted by: phx8 at November 9, 2018 5:35 PM
    Comment #434156

    For people who have to live in the past in order to dehumanize their political opponents with lies, they forget the historical evidence of what happens when good people are pushed to far.

    Posted by: kctim at November 9, 2018 5:39 PM
    Comment #434158

    Poor phx8. He has been fooled so many times by LW media he no longer recognizes or wants a true story.

    I don’t care who prints the truth phx8.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2018 5:48 PM
    Comment #434160

    Phx8,
    Um, I didn’t quote or link to anything about Larry King.

    Nice to see that you are still think you are the only one who understands how search engines work and are still using that falsehood to deflect away from Snipes and where your leftist violence is leading us.

    Posted by: kctim at November 9, 2018 5:53 PM
    Comment #434161
    Royal Flush wrote:Sad, but true kctim. Perhaps someone should publish the address of media leftys. It would be interesting if a nasty crowd showed up at Jim Acosta’s home to terrorize him and his family. I hope that doesn’t happen. We have legal and moral ways to stop these political terrorists. They are the mobsters; not us.
    Correct.

    And when it comes to illegal immigration, I wonder (and I am not advocating or hoping for this to happen) IF more Congress persons would be more serious about stopping illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, and sancturary, etc., if one of their own family was murdered by an illegal immigrant?

    Perhaps they would take it more seriously, and have more genuine empathy for the following victims and survivors, and a willingness to do something about it?

    For the people that make excuses for illegal immigrants, they should try and tell it to the victims and survivors of these victims of crimes which could have been prevented:

    • Source: http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/examples-serious-crimes-illegal-aliens/
    • August 2017 — Martel Valencia-Cortez, a human smuggler from Mexico, was sentenced to eight years in American Prison for assaulting a U.S. Border Patrol agent with a rock; he was also charged with three counts of human smuggling. Valencia-Cortez has been listed as one of the most dangerous human smugglers in the San Diego area. Previous to the most recent charge, Valencia-Cortez served three years in prison for human smuggling charges and was then deported back to Mexico. (U.S. News, August 29, 2017)
    • August 2017 — Thirty three-year-old nanny Lidia Quilligana, an illegal immigrant from Ecuador, was convicted and sentenced to fifteen years in prison for the brutal torture and abuse of three small children. Nanny cam footage caught Quilligana burning the hands and legs of the three-year-old child as well as grabbing her by the hair and hitting her in the face. The torture was described as “sustained and depraved cruelty” by the District Attorney, and the judge admitted that the sentence nowhere near fit the heinous nature of the crime. Quilligana cited her own abusive childhood in Ecuador as justification for her actions. (Newstimes, August 22, 2017)
    • July 2017 — Ariel Cuellar Guizar will face thirty-one years in prison for a collection of charges relating to his activities as a human trafficker. He has been found guilty of trafficking, pimping women out to prostitution, and the rape of a fifteen-year-old girl. Guizar will also be registered as a s*x offender for life. (ABC7, July 20, 2017)
    • June 2017 — Vanessa Hernandez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, was sentenced to 100 months in prison for importing nearly 9 pounds of methamphetamine. Hernandez is expected to face deportation proceedings after she is released from prison. (ICE.gov, June 9, 2017)
    • May 2017 — Illegal immigrant, Edwin Velasquez Curuchiche, has been sentenced to fifty years in prison after being convicted of two counts of producing child pornography. Specifically, Curuchiche has been charged with sneaking into the room of a six year old girl and filming himself molesting her while she slept. Originally apprehended entering the country illegally in 2013, the Guatemalan national never returned for his immigration hearing and was living in the U.S. illegally at the time he assaulted the child. (Tennessean, May 15, 2017)
    • May 2017 — An Uzbek refugee serving 25 years behind bars for a plot to kill U.S. military personnel or civilians has been charged with stabbing the warden at the California federal prison where he was serving his sentence, prosecutors said Thursday. (Fox News, May 27, 2017)
    • May 2017 — Pasqual Mendez, 24, of Morganton, was given an active prison term of 12 to 19 years for felony human trafficking of a child, assault on a female, interfering with emergency communication and statutory rape of a child less than 15 years of age (News Herald, May 23, 2017)
    • May 2017 — Oscar De La Rosa-Mendoza, 31, of Mission — a Mexican citizen who wasn’t lawfully present in the United States — pleaded guilty to driving while intoxicated, a Class B misdemeanor, on May 9. (CBS News, May 18, 2017)
    • May 2017 — Carlos Santiago-Alvarez, 41, of Holyoke, was sentenced Monday to six to eight years in state prison followed by five years probation in a child rape case. (Mass Live, May 4, 2017)
    • April 2017 — Ignacio Luque-Verdugo, 32, was convicted Friday in Adams County District Court of first-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder charges. (Denver Channel, April 18, 2017)
    • April 2017 — Four Charlotte-area members of the El Salvadoran gang MS-13 were convicted Tuesday of federal racketeering charges. (Charlotte Observer, April 18, 2017)
    • April 2017 — Pablo Gonzales Sanchez will spend at least 18 years in prison for molesting a young teenage girl an estimated 50 times. The girl’s mother, an illegal immigrant, has also been sentenced to prison for not reporting her daughter’s allegations of abuse. Both she and Sanchez also were ordered to be added to the S*x Offender Registry. (Shelby Star, April 11, 2017)
    • April 2017 — Abdirahman P. Sahel was sentenced Monday, April 10, to 20 years in prison for s*xually assaulting and terrorizing a young woman nearly four years ago. (Jamestown Sun, April 11, 2017)
    • April 2017 — Gil Gaxiola was convicted of first-degree attempted murder of a National Park Service employee, as well as armed robbery, three counts of aggravated assault, kidnapping and theft of means of transportation, following an 11-day trial. (Wilcox Range News, April 1, 2017)
    • March 2017 — Mexican National Miguel Rangel-Arce, 36, has been convicted of trafficking methamphetamine in New Mexico and Navajo Nation land. He will serve 10 years in prison. He is one of eight others who were charged with trafficking drugs between November 2015 and March 2016. When they were apprehended, the police also found 2 1/2 pounds of meth and 10 firearms. (Daily Times, March 8, 2017)
    • February 2017 — 29-year-old Ricardo Solis Garcia was sentenced to 20-29 years in prison after being convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl in Burke County, North Carolina in March of 2015. Garcia lured the girl into his car on the pretense of giving her a ride but instead took her to a motel room where he forced her to have s*x with him. Garcia will be scheduled to be deported after he has served his prison sentence. (WHKY, February 2, 2017)
    • January 2017 — A Mexican illegally in the United States;, Leonard Pennelas-Escobar, was shot dead in Arizona as he assaulted a police officer by banging his head against cement after Pennelas shot and wounded the officer who had stopped to render assistance after Pennelas driving at a high speed had rolled the car killing the woman passenger.
    • January 2017 — Alexis De La Rosa Sosa, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, was sentenced in Texas to four concurrent terms of 12 years in prison for the deaths of two persons as a result of his crashing into their vehicle while driving recklessly and then fleeing the scene of the crime. (Breitbart News, January 11, 2017)
    • November 2016 — A Mexican illegal immigrant , Claudia Raquel Herrera Ibarra, pled guilty to possession of a firearm in Laredo Texas and was sentenced to three years imprisonment. She and a partner were caught smuggling weapons to the violent “Los Zetas” narcotics smuggling gang in Mexico. (Breibert News, November 30, 2016)
    • October 2016 — A previously deported illegal immigrant is jailed in Michigan after admitting to strangling his girlfriend. Raul Perez had been deported to Mexico in 2004 and again in 2005 after a judge found him guilty of illegal reentry. He also had been in police custody five days before the murder for driving under the influence. The local authorities established his identity from his fingerprints – he was using an assumed name – but according to a news account – there was no request from ICE that he be detained (perhaps because he was detained on a weekend). ICE has now issued a detainer request for whenever Perez is released. (WoodTV, Channel 8, Grand Rapids Mich.)
    • September 2016 — Cecil Burrows, an immigrant from India, is due to be deported following more than three years imprisonment for his involvement in orchestrating a gang rape in his home in 2012. (Washington Post, September 25, 2016)
    • September 2016 — A British illegal immigrant, Michael Steven Sandford, pled guilty in Nevada to possession of a gun—that he tried to take from a policeman – and disrupting and official function—a campaign rally by GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump. Sandford said he was attempting to kill the candidate. A psychiatrist found that Sandford was “delusional” according to an AP report. Sentencing guidelines call for 18 to 27 months in prison. (Daily News. September 13, 2016)
    • September 2016 — September 2016 – Jorge Elizade Sanches, an illegal immigrant confessed to the beating death of his common-law spouse in Texas. (12newsnow.tv September 15, 2016)
    • September 2016 — September 2016 – Walter Gomes DaSilva, a Brazilian illegal immigrant, pled guilty to the murder of his teen-aged daughter in Massachusetts. (Boston Herald, September 7, 2016)
    • September 2016 — September 2016 – Ecuadorian illegal immigrants, Paul Esteban Estrella Villota and his wife Magaly Alemania Malagon Sandoya were respectively sentenced in Texas to six and five years respectively in federal prison for an immigrant smuggling operation. (Breibart News September 7, 2016)
    • August 2016 — Two Salvadoran illegal immigrant gang members were convicted of murder in the Virginia suburbs of Washington DC. Jose Lopez Torres was convicted of a brutal stabbing death of another MS-13 gang member suspected of being an informer. He was sentenced to life imprisonment plus 20 years. According to the Washington Post, “His conviction was part of a sweeping federal case against Northern Virginia members of the El Salvador-based gang, in which six defendants pleaded guilty and six more were found guilty at trial.” The other just convicted Salvadoran was Jesus Alejandro Chavez, who was sentenced to two life terms plus 10 years for two murders. (Washington Post, August 11, 2016)
    • July 2016 — Mauricio Morales-Caceres, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador was sentenced in Montgomery County, Maryland to life in prison without parole for the stabbing death of another Salvadoran. Morales identified himself as an MS-13 gang member, and testimony indicated he had no remorse for his crime. (Washington Post July 15, 2016)
    • June 2016 — Aroldo Castillo-Serrano, a Guatemalan illegal immigrant, was sentence to 15 years in prison in Ohio for forced labor conspiracy, forced labor, witness tampering and encouraging illegal entry into the country. Castillo paid smugglers to smuggle teen-aged Guatemalan youth into the country under the promise of getting them into school and then put them to work as indentured servants in an egg farm. (Fox News Latino, June 27, 2016)
    • June 2016 — A Mexican illegal immigrant, Juan Carlos Sepulveda-Castro, was sentenced to two and one half years in prison in Idaho for threatening people with an assault rifle. The news report notes that illegal immigrants are prohibited from possessing a firearm. (Pocatello TV channel 8)
    • June 2016 — Eleven illegal immigrant members of the Salvadoran MS-13 gang have been convicted of a series of crimes including murder. Jorge Enrique Moreno-Aguilar, Juan Alberto Ortiz-Orellana and Minor Perez, all from Maryland were convicted in mid-May of murder and conspiracy in a racketeering enterprise. (MRC-TV May 24, 2016) New Jersey gang members Santos Reyes-Villatoro, Mario Oliva, Roberto Contreras, Julian Moz-Aguilar, Hugo Palencia, Jose Garcia, Cruz Flores, and Esau Ramirez were convicted in late May in New Jersey of various murder, racketeering and firearms crimes. (MRC-TV, June 2, 2016)
    • May 2016 — Illegal immigrants, Reinol Vergara and Edson Benitez, pled guilty to second degree murder for the death of a 90 year-old Minnesota man they beat and tied up while they stole from his home, leaving him to bleed to death. (Breibart News May 11, 2016)
    • April 2016 — A Salvadoran illegal immigrant, Mauricio Morales-Caceres, was convicted of first degree murder in Maryland and sentenced to life imprisonment. (Washington Post, April 30, 2016)
    • March 2016 — Juan Razo, a Mexican illegal immigrant living in Painesville, Ohio, agreed to plead guilty to a crime spree that included the shooting death of a 60-year old woman, attempted rape of a 14-year old girl, kidnapping and burglary. His plea was to avoid the death penalty and accept a life sentence. (Cleveland.com, March 4, 2016)
    • February 2016 — Three illegal immigrants from Mexico were sentenced to federal prison for immigrant smuggling and illegally re-entering the U.S. after previous deportations. One man was sentenced to 57 months, another will serve 24 months, and the last man was sentenced to serve 12 months and one day in prison. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, February 2, 2016)
    • January 2016 — An illegal immigrant from Mexico was sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison after having been convicted for transporting illegal immigrants, which resulted in the death of two illegal immigrants. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, January 20, 2016)
    • On 31-JAN-2016, Sarah Root, 21, from Omaha, Nebraska was killed by an illegal immigrant. Her SUV was rear-ended by Eswin Mejia, an illegal immigrant from Honduras, who was street racing. Sarah had just graduated from Bellevue University with a 4.0 GPA the day before she passed away. Omaha is in Douglas County, Nebraska which has sanctuary policies that impede local law enforcement’s ability to cooperate with ICE officers. Mejia was charged with motor vehicular homicide but posted bond to get out of jail and was released. He is still on the run.
    • December 2015— A 40-year-old illegal immigrant, Michael Rodriguez Garcia, was sentenced to four life terms for the rape and sodomy of two children in Alabama. (Breitbart News, December 2, 2015)
    • November 2015 — Humberto Erazo-Medrano and Ricardo Castaneda, two illegal immigrants, were arrested and charged with second-degree promoting prostitution in Alabama. The bond for each man is set at $100,000. (Gadsden Times, November 2, 2015)
    • October 2015 — Marco Hernandez Ramirez, a 34-year-old illegal immigrant from Guatemala, was sentenced to 40 years in prison for killing a couple and their 5-year-old daughter in a car crash. (Athens Banner-Herald, October 14, 2015)
    • September 2015 — An illegal immigrant from Mexico, Martin Margarito-Casimiro, was sentenced to 40 years in federal prison for kidnapping a man in Texas. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, September 24, 2015)
    • August 2015 — Jose Angel Villarreal-Sanchez, a 42-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico, was convicted of possessing a firearm in Texas. According to federal law, illegal immigrants are not permitted to possess firearms. Three baggies of cocaine were also found hidden in his backyard. Villarreal-Sanchez is expected to be sentenced in December. He could face up to 10 years in federal prison and a possible $250,000 fine. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, August 11, 2015)
    • July 2015 — Ever Olivos-Gutierrez, an illegal visa overstayer, was convicted of second degree murder in Colorado for the death he caused while driving intoxicated. It was the fourth time since 2000 he had been arrested for DUI, but there was no record of immigration authorities ever being notified. He was sentenced to 40 years imprisonment. (Denver Channel 7)
    • June 2015 — A Salvadoran, Mauricio Hernandez, convicted of rape and murder of the baby born to his victim was sentenced to 50 years in prison in Texas and faces deportation when he has served his sentence. (The Dallas Morning News, June 5, 2015)
    • May 2015 — A Salvadoran, Julio C. Saravia, faces deportation following a prison sentence of 29 years for rape of a minor, to which he pled guilty in Virginia.
    • May 2015 — Two Mexicans, Juan Hernandez-Sanchez and (FNU) Canela-Perez, pled guilty in Portland, Oregon and were sentenced to seven years in state prison for distribution of methamphetamines and heroin. (Oregonian, May 14, 2015)
    • May 2015 — Zeng Liang Chen and Dong Biao Lin, illegal immigrants from China, were convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in New Jersey. (NJ.com, May 5, 2015)
    • May 2015 — Bernabe Flores, a Mexican illegal immigrant, pled guilty to first-degree rape in California and was sentenced to eight years in prison. (Times-Herald Record, May 7, 2015)
    • April 2015 — Victor Garzon-Alvarez, a Mexican illegal immigrant pled guilty and was sentenced in New Jersey to 14 years in prison for murder. (NJ.com, April 22, 2015)
    • April 2015 — Sergio Quezada Lopez, a Mexican illegal immigrant who had been deported four times, was sentenced in Oregon to 15 years in prison for a heroin overdose death. His brother, Gerardo Chalke Lopez, also a previously deported immigrant, was earlier sentenced to 18 years in prison on the same charges. (Oregonian, April 29, 2015)
    • April 2015 — Three illegal immigrants, Uriel Ramirez-Perez, Darwin Zuniga-Rocha, and Eliseo Mateo Perez, pled guilty to first-degree s*xual abuse (rape) in New York and were sentenced to time served in jail and will be deported. (Daily News, April 29, 2015)
    • March 2015 — Javier Guerrero Molina, a Mexican illegal immigrant, was sentenced in federal court in Jacksonville, Florida to 10 years imprisonment for attempting to transport a minor to engage in s*xual activity. Guerrero said he had entered the United States illegally in 1999 or 2000. (Dept. of Justice, Middle District of Florida, March 30, 2015)
    • March 2015 — An Idaho judge sentenced Phuong Hoang Le, a Vietnamese illegal immigrant, to prison for 36 months. Le was convicted of possession of a stolen car and stolen credit card. The judge commented, “Stealing cars and credit cards strike at the hearts of average middle class citizens.” The prosecutor said that Le had 10 prior felony convictions, but that according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, he is not likely to be deported because if Le were to be deported to Vietnam “he would be killed.” (magicvalley.com/news/local/mini-cassia/ — March 25, 2015)
    • March 2015 — Luis Daniel Cabrera-Guzman, a Mexican illegal immigrant, was sentenced in Kansas City to two years in federal prison for conspiracy to produce and distribute false and counterfeit identification documents that were sold to illegal immigrants. He had previously been deported twice in 2009. Four other Mexican illegal immigrants have pled guilty to the same conspiracy and await sentencing. (Kansas City infozine, March 25, 2015)
    • February 2015 — Sergio Cobaruvias-Romero, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, was convicted of possessing with intent to distribute drugs in Texas. He was found with 20 bundles of methamphetamine weighing 46 pounds and four bundles of heroine weighing 13 pounds. He was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, February 17, 2015)
    • January 2015 — Jaime Gerardo Serrano-Villegas, a 28-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico, was convicted of transporting illegal immigrants. He assisted in moving a boat filled with illegal immigrants and faces up to 10 years in federal prison. (U.S. Department of Justice, Southern District of Texas, January 14, 2015)
    • On 22-JAN-2015, Grant Ronnebeck was murdered by an illegal immigrant (Apolinar Altamirano) from Mexico. Grant Ronnebeck was shot while working his shift at a convenience store in Mesa, Arizona. Apolinar Altamirano was already out on bond for a previous conviction.
    • On 01-JUL-2015, Kate Steinle was murdered by an illegal immigrant (García Zárate) who had been deported 5 times, had already committed several felonies, and he was still somehow acquited of murder by a jury in California, despite the fact that the illegal immigrant had admitted to shooting Kate Steinle (even if he claimed it was accidental, that is manslaughter);
    • On 24-JUL-2015, Shayley Estes was killed by an illega immigrant (Igor Zubko from Russia) in Phoenix, Arizona. Shayley obtained an order of protection against Zubko just 10 days before her murder, but he entered her home and fatally shot her. Zubko entered the U.S. legally, but overstayed his visa and remained in the U.S. illegally. He is in police custody and faces first-degree murder charges.
    • December 2014 — Roy Naim, an illegal alien who was featured by Time Magazine as a poster child for the amnesty movement, was convicted of child pornography and sentenced to 15 to 30 years in prison. (NY Daily News, December 2014)
    • December 2014 — Two illegal aliens were arrested by Border Patrol agents in Laredo, Texas for illegally re-entering the United States. The illegal aliens were previously convicted of first-degree murder in Illinois, where they each served between 6 to 10 years in prison. They were departed back to Mexico upon completing their sentences. (Breitbart News, December 2, 2014)
    • November 2014 — Abel Hernandez-Labra, a Mexican illegal alien living in Iowa, was convicted of the following charges: one count of making false statements in a passport application, one count of aggravated identity theft, one count of making a false claim of U.S. citizenship to register to vote, and one count of harboring an illegal alien. Hernandez-Labra was sentenced to 51 months in prison and fined $5,000. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, November 4, 2014)
    • October 2014 — Freddy David Santos Campuzano, an illegal alien from Mexico, was sentenced to 57 months in prison for participating in a fraudulent document ring. The ring sold high-quality, fake identification documents in many states across the United States. 42 members of the organization have been convicted. (WTOP, October 17, 2014)
    • September 2014 — Ivan Espinoza Villafana, a 24-year-old Mexican illegal alien, was convicted of possession of a firearm by an illegal alien, cultivation of marijuana, and depredation of public lands and resources. Villafana was caught growing marijuana on Mendocino National Forest land in Glenn County, California. He was sentenced to five years in prison. (U.S. Department of Justice, Eastern District of California, September 18, 2014)
    • August 2014 — Merced Garcia, a 37-year-old illegal alien from Mexico, was sentenced to 180 days in jail for vehicular homicide and driving without a license. (WLWT Cincinanti, August 26, 2014)
    • July 2014 — A Mexican illegal alien, Juan Bautista-Rubio, was convicted of one count of aggravated identity theft. He used a social security card and permanent resident card to obtain employment in the U.S. Bautista-Rubio has previously been deported. (U.S. Department of Justice, Northern District of Iowa, July 9, 2014)
    • June 2014 — An illegal alien from the Dominican Republic, Renato de la Cruz, was convicted of theft of public money, use of a falsely obtained Social Security Number, and aggravated identity theft. He used a fake ID to receive unemployment benefits. De la Cruz faces a maximum sentence of 10 years and a fine of $250,000. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, June 24, 2014)
    • May 2014 — Humberto Gonzalez, an illegal alien, was convicted in New Jersey of criminal assault and sentenced to 50 years in prison. The rape occurred in 2005 and Gonzalez was not identified until a DNA match was made following an arrest in Texas for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Gonzalez also had a criminal record in Louisiana and Arkansas. (Times of Trenton, May 9, 2014)
    • April 2014 — Luciano Chavez-Morales, an illegal alien from Mexico, was convicted of possessing firearms and methamphetamine. Chavez-Morales was caught selling methamphetamine to an undercover Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He is sentenced to serve 87 months in prison. (U.S. Department of Justice, District of Idaho, April 16, 2014)
    • March 2014 — An illegal alien from Mexico, Jose Luis Ariciaga-Banda, was convicted of possessing a firearm, possessing marijuana with intent to distribute, and illegally reentering the United States after deportation. He was sentenced to 63 months in prison. (U.S. Department of Justice, Western District of Louisiana, March 19, 2014)
    • February 2014 — Cinthya Garcia-Cisneros, an illegal alien from Mexico, was found guilty of two counts of a felony for failure to perform the duties of a driver and sentenced to three years of probation and 250 hours of community service. Garcia-Cisneros committed a hit-and-run that resulted in the death of two stepsisters, 6-year-old Anna Dieter-Eckerdt and 11-year-old Abigail Robinson. (Associated Press, Feb. 4, 2013)
    • January 2014 — An illegal alien from El Salvador pleaded guilty to killing a 3-year-old boy and injuring nine other people while driving intoxicated. He was issued a driver’s license by the state of Utah, but did not have car insurance. Manuel de Jesus Guinea will spend up to 15 years in prison. (The Salt Lake Tribune, November 7, 2014)
    • January 2014 — Jasim Mohammed Hasin Ramadon, aka Jay Hendrix, an Iraqi immigrant, was found guilty in Colorado on multiple counts of s*xual assault. He faces a possible sentence of life in prison. Sarmad Fadhi “Levi” Mohammed, another Iraqi was earlier convicted for the same assault and sentenced to 16 years in prison. An additional three Iraqi immigrants involved in the assault have received misdemeanor convictions. (Colorado Gazette, January 21, 2014)
    • December 2013 — A Mexican illegal alien, Francisco Leon-Urbalexo, pled guilty in California to attempted second-degree murder and was sentenced to nine years in state prison. (Santa Monica Daily Press, December 17, 2013)
    • December 2013 — Jose Luis Ramirez-Dorantes, a Mexican illegal alien was sentenced in California to 55 years in prison for the murder-robbery of Border Patrol officer Robert Rosas, Jr. Ramirez had been arrested on alien smuggling charges, but was free on supervised release at the time he joined four others in 2009 in an attempted robbery of Rosas’ night vision goggles that resulted in his shooting death. (Breibart News, December 29, 2013)
    • December 2013 — Joel Monfort, a Haitian illegal alien, was deported. He was convicted of second-degree assault and s*x offense in Salisbury, Maryland and was sentenced to 12 months in prison in 2001. In 2004, he was again convicted of second-degree assault for s*xually assaulting a motorcycle accident victim he was providing nursing aid and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. (The Star Democrat, December 18, 2013)
    • December 2013 — Two British citizens, Babar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan, pled guilty in Connecticut to conspiring to provide and providing material support, including funds, personnel and physical items, to terrorists. Ahmad and Ahsan face up to 25 years and 15 years in prison, respectively. (ICE Press Release, December 10, 2013)
    • December 2013 — Carlos Hidalgo, a Mexican illegal alien, was convicted of felony grand theft in April 2013. Between 2001 and 2011, Hidalgo was convicted of two DUI offenses. He is in prison in Adelanto, California. (The Press-Enterprise, December 2, 2013)
    • December 2013 — Artyom Karapetyan, an Armenian immigrant, was convicted of felony battery against a custodial officer and imprisoned at Adelanto, California. He was transferred to the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department in August because of an outstanding criminal warrant. (The Press-Enterprise, December 2, 2013)
    • December 2013 — Jose Santos Maltez, a Nicaraguan illegal alien, is imprisoned in Adelanto, California federal penitentiary for conviction on a drug charge. (The Press-Enterprise, December 2, 2013)
    • November 2013 — Three Mexicans pled guilty to holding hostages at gunpoint in their alien smuggling operation in Arizona. Francisco Javier Astorga-Velarde and Jose Pedro Soto-Valdez were both sentenced to 12 years in prison. Noel Galindez-Marmolejo was sentenced to 10 years imprisonment. (ICE News Release, November 27, 2013)
    • November 2013 — German de Jesus Ventura, a Salvadoran illegal alien, was sentenced in Maryland to 35 years in prison for s*x trafficking. His partner, Kevin Garcia Fuertes, a Honduran, was sentenced to 19 years in prison. (ICE News Release, November 26, 2013)
    • November 2013 — A British citizen, John David Baker, was sentenced in Florida to 25 years in prison for producing child pornography. (ICE News Release, November 22, 2013)
    • November 2013 — a Salvadoran MS-13 illegal alien gang member, Carlos Ortega, was convicted of murder, assault with dangerous weapons, racketeering, racketeering conspiracy, and related firearms and conspiracy offenses. For these crimes in the New York City area, he was sentenced to life in prison. (Breibart News, November 21, 2013)
    • November 2013 — Two Guayanese citizens, Yugool Persaud, and Desmond Wilson, were convicted in Florida of drug smuggling. They face up to life in federal prison. (ICE News Release, November 21, 2013)
    • November 2013 — Thomas Andrew Quinton, a Canadian, pled guilty in Montana to “traveling with the intent to have s*x with a minor.” He faces a possible penalty of 30 years in prison. (ICE News Release, November 18, 2013)
    • November 2013 — Luis Munoz, an illegal alien from Ecuador, pled guilty to first degree aggravated vehicular homicide for driving under the influence of alcohol, fatally hitting two people, and driving away. Munoz received the maximum prison sentence of 18 years. (YNN, November 8, 2013)
    • October 2013 — Emeterio Velazquez, a Mexican, was convicted in Wisconsin of cocaine trafficking. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison. (ICE News Release, October 25, 2013)
    • October 2013 — Augustine DeCruz, a Guyanan illegal alien, was convicted in Pennsylvania of possessing with intent to distribute cocaine and crack cocaine and for possessing a firearm. He was sentenced to 106 months in prison. (ICE News Release, October 24, 2013)
    • October 2013 — An illegal alien from Honduras who had been detained by immigration authorities and granted voluntary departure but failed to leave the country attempted to abduct a co-ed at Virginia Tech in 2012 where he was working on a construction project. Arlex Cardenas Flores was sentenced to two years in prison. (Roanoke News, October 2, 2013)
    • October 2013 — Santos Gomez, a Mexican illegal alien, was sentenced to 15 years in prison convicted of a drunk driving conviction for an accident in South Carolina that left a university student crippled for life. (The State, October 17, 2013)
    • October 2013 — Javier Antonio Martinez, an illegal alien from the Dominican Republic was sentenced to 65 years in prison in Alaska. He was charged with a series of crimes and is still awaiting trial for the shooting death of his boss. Martinez had previously been deported in 1992 after serving time for a felony drug conviction in Rhode Island. According to the prosecutor, he had returned to the United States by the next year and had accumulated several additional convictions for violent crimes in Florida under aliases but was undetected as a deportable alien. (Anchorage Daily News, October 17, 2013)
    • October 2013 — A Guatemalan, Luis Gilberto Cruz Solis, was sentenced in McAllen, Texas to six months in prison for stabbing a Border Patrol K-9 as he tried to elude capture after entering the country illegally. (Monitor, October 1, 2013)
    • September 2013 — Camilo Torres-Martinez, a Columbian, pled guilty and was convicted in Florida of conspiracy to traffic cocaine into the United States. He faces a sentence of between 10 years and life in federal prison. (ICE News Release, September 26, 2013)
    • September 2013 — Alma Lucrecia Hernandez-Preciado, a Colombian, was convicted in Florida of drug smuggling. She faces between 10 years and life in federal prison. (ICE News Release, September 23, 2013)
    • September 2013 — Alexis Estevez-Alvarez, a Cuban, was sentenced in Texas to 11 years in prison for possession with intent to distribute marijuana. (ICE News Release, September 16, 2013)
    • September 2012 — Ezequiel Padilla-Villalobos, a Mexican illegal alien, pled guilty to murder for stabbing to death a 14-year old girl in Colorado when he failed in his efforts to strangle her. (Examiner, September 19, 2013)
    • September 2013 — An illegal alien from Honduras, Kevin Fuertes, was convicted in Maryland of s*x trafficking (running brothels in Annapolis and Easton, Maryland). He was sentenced to 19 years in prison. (WBAL News, September 11, 2013)
    • September 2013 — Jose Alberto Izquierdo-Gonzalez, a Mexican illegal alien, pled guilty to illegally transporting immigrants and assaulting U.S. Border Patrol agents and was sentenced in Laredo, Texas to eight years in federal prison. Associated Press, September 4, 2013)
    • August 2013 — Pricilio Garcia-Jimenez, a Mexican illegal alien, pled guilty in New Mexico to selling methamphetamine. The plea agreement provides for a 9-year prison term followed by deportation. (ICE News Release, August 30, 2013)
    • August 2013 — Alberto Feliz Garcia, a Guatemalan, was sentenced in Massachusetts to 63 months in prison for possession with intent to distribute heroin and other charges. (ICE News Release, August 30, 2013)
    • August 2013 — Esteban Bernard, an Argentinian, was convicted in Wisconsin of violent assault with a firearm. He was sentenced to two years in prison. (ICE News Release, August 21, 2013)
    • August 2013 — Phillip Amisano-Camillo, a Canadian, pled guilty in Texas to enticing a minor to engage in s*xual activity. He faces up to 40 years in federal prison. (ICE News Release, August 19, 2013)
    • August 2013 —Julio Blanco Garcia, and illegal alien, was convicted of first-degree murder of a young woman who had volunteered to drive him to a hospital. He was sentenced in Fairfax, Virginia to 49 years imprisonment. (Washington Post, August 22, 2013)
    • August 2013 —Agustin Macias-Marquez, an illegal alien, pled guilty to drunk driving, unlicensed driving, and causing an accident that killed two people in Pennsylvania. He was sentenced to eight years in prison. At the time of the accident, Macias was left free while under deportation proceedings resulting from a previous drunk driving conviction. (Herald-Mail, August 15, 2013)
    • July 2013 — Jose Domingo Jasso-Topete, a Mexican illegal alien, pled guilty in New Mexico to conspiracy and possessing more than 1,000 kilograms of marijuana with intent to distribute. He faces a maximum prison sentence of life imprisonment. (ICE News Release, July 31, 2013)
    • July 2013 — Jose Roberto Pacheco-Alvarado, a Honduran, pled guilty in Louisiana to illegally reentering the country following his deportation after a felony theft conviction. He faces a sentence of up to 10 years in prison. (ICE News Release, July 29, 2013)
    • July 2013 — Manuel Rivas, a Salvadoran, was sentenced in Louisiana to six years in prison for obstructing his deportation following subsequent to a felony s*xual assault conviction in Arkansas. (ICE News Release, July 24, 2013)
    • July 2013 — Jose Luis Castillo-Madrigal, a Mexican, pled guilty and was convicted in Wisconsin of marijuana trafficking. He was sentenced to 54 months in prison. (ICE News Release, July 22, 2013)
    • July 2013 —Moises Soto, a Mexican, pled guilty in federal court to a drug conspiracy charge related to managing a large marijuana farm and distribution operation in Maine. The operation employed illegal aliens. (Bangor Daily News, July 30, 2013)
    • July 2013 —Antonio Lopez-Bautista, an illegal alien was sentenced to 11 years in jail for s*xually assaulting a 67-year-old woman in Sarasota, New York. (Saratogian, July 29, 2013)
      >li>June 2013 — Arlex Cardenas Flores, an illegal alien construction worker in Virginia, was convicted of attempted abduction of a female Virginia Tech student. He faces a possible sentence of 10 years imprisonment. ( WSLS-TV, Roanoke, VA)
    • June 2013 — Luis Alberto Hernandez Garcia, an illegal alien, was convicted of possessing with intent to distribute cocaine and marijuana in Brownsville, Texas. He was sentenced to more than 11 years imprisonment. (Brownsville Herald, June 4, 2013)
    • May 2013 – Samuel Nevarez-Ayon, a Mexican, was convicted in Idaho of conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine. He was sentenced to more than 24 years in prison. (ICE News Release, May 30, 2013)
    • May 2013 — German Rolando Vicente-Sapon, a Guatemalan illegal alien, was sentenced in Tennessee to more than 15 years in federal prison for s*xually abusing a teenage Guatemalan girl he illegally trafficked across the Mexican border. (ICE News Release, May 28, 2013)
    • May 2013 — Mustapha Issaka Zico, a Ghanaian, was convicted in Virginia of conspiring to import heroin from Ghana. He was sentenced to to 18 years in prison. (ICE News Release, May 28, 2013)
    • May 2013 — Edwin Galvez-Berganza, a Guatemalan, pled guilty in Maryland to narcotics trafficking and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. (ICE News Release, May 23, 2013)
    • May 2013 — Yessica Chanel Cabanillas-Torres, a Mexican, pled guilty in Texas to conspiracy to possess with the intent to distribute heroin. She was convicted and sentenced to three years in prison. (ICE News Release, May 17, 2013)
    • May 2013 — Tyrone Reid, an illegal alien from Dominica involved in narcotics smuggling, was sentenced in Texas to 14 years in prison on a firearms conviction. (ICE News Release, May 15, 2013)
    • May 2013 — Five Mexicans were convicted in North Carolina of operating a drug distribution ring. Norberto Rivera Aguilar, the leader of the gang, pled guilty to conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute cocaine and methamphetamine and was sentenced to ten years in prison to be followed by four years of supervised release. The other gang members who were previously convicted are Caritino Mujica-Vargas, also sentenced to ten years imprisonment; Francisco Javier Teodoro-Campuzano, sentenced to 43 months imprisonment; Marco Antonio Sosa-Caderilla, sentenced to 24 months imprisonment; and Carolina Olivia Hernandez, sentenced to time served (about 18 months). (ICE News Release, May 8, 2013)
    • May 2013 — Jorge Molina-Sanchez, a Mexican, was found guilty of conspiracy to distribute cocaine and heroin in North Carolina. Molina faces a statutory mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years to life in prison. (ICE News Release, May 8, 2013)
      May 2013 — An illegal alien — whose identity was withheld to protect the identity of his victim — pled guilty and was convicted in Oklahoma for the statutory rape of an 11-year old child. He was sentenced to 25 years imprisonment. (KWSO Channel 7 News, May 1, 2013)
    • April 2013 — Benito Aguilar-Ozuna, a Mexican, was sentenced in Texas to nearly 20 years in prison for cocaine trafficking. (ICE News Release, April 25, 2013)
    • April 2013 — Eric Cortez Flores, a Mexican, was sentenced in Texas to 30 years in federal prison for conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine. (ICE News Release, April 17, 2013)
    • April 2013 — ICE in Texas announced the convictions of seven Mexicans and one Salvadoran for reentry after deportation for felony convictions. Previous convictions of the eight illegal aliens included aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, burglary of a vehicle and theft, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute and DUI, possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver, assault, burglary, aggravated robbery, unlawfully carrying a weapon, and unauthorized use of a vehicle, theft, carrying a prohibited weapon, possessing a controlled substance, vehicle theft and family assault, possessing/manufacturing/selling a dangerous weapon, theft, battery with injury, burglary, aggravated assault, threatening with intent to terrorize, burglary of a vehicle, possessing a controlled substance, and theft. (ICE News Release, April 2, 2013)
    • April 2013 — Pedro Daniel Rodriguez, a Mexican pled guilty in California and was convicted of attempted smuggling of methamphetamines and cocaine into the United States. He was sentenced to more than 12 years in federal prison. (ICE News Release, April 1, 2013)
    • April 2013 — A Moroccan, Mohammed Mamdouh, was sentenced to five years imprisonment after pleading guilty in February 2012 to conspiracy to a crime of terrorism, criminal possession of a weapon and attempted possession of a weapon as a crime of terrorism in New York City. Mamdouh’s fellow conspirator, Algerian Ahmed Ferhani, was sentenced to ten years imprisonment in March. (Businessweek, April 26, 2013).
    • April 2013 — Oscar Hernandez, a Mexican illegal alien was convicted in New Mexico of the murder of a woman in a fight and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. (Albuquerque Journal, April 11, 2013)
    • March 2013 — Moonseop Kim, a Korean, pled guilty to transporting illegal aliens into Mississippi for financial gain in connection with a s*x trafficking organization. He faces a maximum prison term of 10 years. (ICE News Release, March 29, 2013)
    • March 2013 — A Mexican illegal alien, Angel Campos Tellez, pled guilty in the District of Columbia pled guilty to helping run a prostitution ring in Maryland and Delaware. Tellez had been previously deported twice. He was sentenced to 46 months in prison. (Washington Post, March 27, 2013 and ICE News Release, June 21, 2013)
    • March 2013 — A Jamaican illegal alien, Oneil Martin, was sentenced to 66 months in prison. He was convicted of possession with intent to distribute marijuana and firearm possession. (ICE News Release, March 26, 2013)
    • March 2013 — Jean-Claude “Kodjo” Toviave, a Togolese, was sentenced in Michigan to 135 months in prison for a conviction for human trafficking. (ICE News Release, March 25, 2013)
    • March 2013 — Jean Brown, a Jamaican, received a life sentence in Maryland for murder in aid of racketeering in connection with a conspiracy to distribute marijuana. (ICE News Release, March 22, 2013)
    • March 2013 — Dante Reyes, a Mexican illegal alien, pled guilty in Indiana and was convicted in Illinois of racketeering conspiracy related to his participation in the Latin Kings gang. (ICE News Release, March 14, 2013)
    • March 2013 — Daniel Ignacio, a Guatemalan illegal alien, was found guilty of murder, arson and assault for torching a tenement that killed five. He faces imprisonment of 25 years to life. (New York Times, March 12, 2013)
    • March 2013 — William Jesus Brandel-Mena, a Honduran, pled guilty in Louisiana to illegal reentry after deportation following a conviction for child molestation. He faces a sentence of up to 20 years in prison. (ICE News Release, March 8, 2013)
    • March 2013 — Juan Castillo-Mendoza, a Mexican, was sentenced in Texas to four years in prison for traveling into the United States with the intent to engage in illicit s*xual conduct (child solicitation). (ICE News Release, March 6, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Jose Rivas, a Colombian, was convicted in Florida of conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine. He was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment. (ICE News Release, February 28, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Luis Ivan Nino-Duenes, a Mexican member of the Gulf Cartel, was sentenced in Texas to five years in prison on a firearms conviction. (ICE News Release, February 27, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Jose Ramon Escobedo-Gonzales, a Mexican, was convicted of trafficking drugs in Idaho and sentenced to 19 years in prison. (ICE News Release, February 25, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Mexican illegal aliens Julio Cesar Flores-Martinez and Francisco Padilla-Perez, were convicted in Texas of attempting to smuggle assault rifle magazines into Mexico. (ICE News Release, February 25, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Luis Misael Madrid-Romero, a Honduran illegal alien, pled guilty in Louisiana to illegal reentry following deportation. He had previously been convicted in California for felony domestic violence. (ICE News Release, February 22, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Miyoung Roberts, a Korean, pled guilty in Washington state to alien s*x trafficking. She was sentenced to two years in prison. (ICE News Release, February 22, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Mexicans Juan L. Hernandez, Oliber L. Hernandez, and Pedro A. Cruz pled guilty in New Orleans to conspiracy to distribute cocaine and marijuana. (ICE News Release, February 20, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Yanira del Carmen Guerrero Andrade, a Salvadoran illegal alien residing in Maryland, pled guilty to child s*x trafficking for recruiting a run-away, pregnant 15-year-old into prostitution. (U.S. Department of Justice press release, February 13, 2013).
    • February 2013 — Mexicans Genaro Torres and Maria E. Garcia were convicted in New York of cocaine trafficking. Torres was sentenced to 10 years in prison and Garcia was sentenced to four years in prison. (ICE News Release, February 8, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Dung Ngoc Nguyen, a Canadian, pled guilty in Pennsylvania to drug trafficking and money laundering. She faces a prison term of up to 45 years. (ICE News Release, February 11, 2013)
    • February 2013 — Franklin William McField-Bent, a Nicaraguan, was convicted in Florida of drug trafficking and weapons conspiracy charges. He was sentenced to 19 years and seven months in prison. (ICE News Release, February 1, 2013)
    • January 2013 — Two Iraqi nationals, Mohanad Shareef Hammadi and Waad Ramadan Alwan were sentenced in Kentucky to life in prison and 40 years in prison respectively for using improvised explosive devices (IEDs) against U.S. soldiers in Iraq and attempting to send weapons and money to Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) to kill U.S. soldiers. (ICE News Release, January 29, 2013)
    • January 2013 — Tahawwur Rana, a Pakistani, was convicted in Illinois of conspiring to provide material support to a terrorist plot in Denmark and providing material support to Lashkar e Tayyiba, a terrorist organization operating in Pakistan. He was sentenced to 14 years in prison. (ICE News Release, January 17, 2013)
    • January 2013 — Pereira, a Salvadoran illegal alien was sentenced to 50 years to life in prison for beating his ex-girlfriend to death in 2012 in Nebraska. (1011Now news, January 4, 2013)
    • In 2013, under the direction of Barack Obama, The Immigration and Customs Enforcement released 36,007 illegal immigrants who had been convicted of murder, s*xual assault, kidnapping, and aggravated assault, and drunk or drugged driving (source: cis.org/Report/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Alien-Releases-2013 );
    • Year 2012: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2012
    • Year 2011: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2011
    • Year 2010: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2010
    • On 16-NOV-2010, Drew Rosenberg was killed by an illegal immigrant (Roberto Galo) from Honduras. Rosenberg was riding his motorcycle when the illegal immigrant ran over Drew three times with his car. Galo was convicted of vehicular manslaughter and sentenced to only 6 months in jail. USCIS refused to deport him and he was released after serving only 43 days.
    • On 29-JUL-2009, Jose Raul Pena, earlier deported for cocaine possession, used his little daughter as a human shield in an hours-long Los Angeles shootout with police. Pena and Suzie were both killed. During the incident, Pena used a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol which had been stolen last year in a burglary in Oregon. His office at the car dealership contained a bag of cocaine and a half-drunk bottle of Tequila — consistent with the illegal Pena’s previous deportation for cocaine possession. Videotape captured images of Pena shooting at the police while holding his daughter, yet his relatives are questioning not only whether he used his daughter as a shield, but whether he was even armed at all, according to the Los Angeles Times.
    • Year 2009: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2009
    • Year 2008: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2008
    • Year 2007: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2007
    • On 30-MAR-2007, Tessa Tranchant, 16, was killed by an illegal immigrant in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Tessa and her friend, Ali Kunhardt, were sitting at a stoplight when Alfredo Ramos, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who was intoxicated and speeding, rear-ended their car. Ramos had a history of prior convictions, but due to Virginia Beach’s sanctuary policies, he was never detained. He was charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 40 years in prison.
    • On 03-MAY-2006, According to the Salt Lake Tribune, according to Ronald Ingleby, Special Agent in Charge of the Social Security Administration’s Office of the Inspector General in Utah, real Social Security numbers and accounts are being created, or purloined, by undocumented workers to circumvent employers’ efforts to certify their legality….Ninety-eight percent of Social Security-related ID theft cases involve people who use their own names but use someone else’s Social Security number. Two percent involve perpetrators using the numbers to assume their victims’ identities. According to statistics by the Salt Lake City Police Department (and verified by an independent study), 80% of all drug crimes in the Salt Lake City are committed by illegal immigrants. In Salt Lake County, the equivalent number is 50%. That’s why Congressman Cannon is on the Immigration Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee. He is working to insure that interior states, like Utah, are not overlooked in the war on illegal immigration.
    • Year 2006: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2006
    • On 18-AUG-2005, Jose Ramirez, an illegal immigrant, beat up a 15-year-old girl after whistling at her. He broke her nose, fractured a bone in her face and produced cuts requiring 30 stitches. The man worked in construction in Spotsylvania, Virginia, where the attack occurred, and resisted arrest to the point where police had to taser him.
    • On 25-JUN-2005, 4 Year old Esmerelda Nava, was molested, strangled, and killed by an illegal immigrant Cornelio Rivera Zamites in Gainesville, Georgia. Cornelio Rivera Zamites had been previously deported for DWI, no drivers license, and no auto insurance.
    • On 13-Nov-2005, Brian Jackson, a Dallas policeman was shot and killed by an illegal immigrant, Juan Lizcano. Lizcano had become drunk and went to the home of his ex-girl-friend to threaten her. As the police pursued Lizcano after he fled the woman’s home, he shot Officer Jackson, who died later in the hospital. Officer Jackson was remembered by his fellow police as someone who loved his job and always went the extra mile.
      N Then, there is Jorge Hernandez, a.k.a. Jorge Soto, who killed Min Soon Chang, an 18-year-old college freshman, in a terrible head-on wreck while Hernandez was driving drunk. He had been arrested 3 previous times for drunk driving in 3 other states, and he had been deported to Mexico 17 times! Why aren’t illegal immigrants aren’t deported instantly after being arrested for drunk driving?
    • Year 2005: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2005
    • In 2004, John Mullaly a former NYPD homicide detective, states 70% of the drug dealers and other criminals in Manhattan’s Washington Heights are were illegal immigrants.
    • On 23-JAN-2004, in Atlanta, Georgia: Mexican Miguel Carrasco raped a female victim in front of her four year old child and two minors; California Mexican Zacarias Camacho committed lewd acts upon a child under 14; El Salvadoran Oswaldo Martinez raped, sodomized and murdered a 16 year old; MS-13 gang member Reinaldo Ramos convicted of 2nd degree s*xual offense for brutal gang rape of 16 year old girl.
    • In 2004, an average of 2,000 illegal immigrants stream across our borders daily. One illegal immigrant in Santa Barbara, California infected 56 other people with tuberculosis as reported on April 24, 2004, by the Santa Barbara Press-News, “Anatomy of an Outbreak”
    • On 18-JAN-2004, in Phoenix, Arizona: Television and radio stations ran ads in the Valley, paid for by the Coalition United to Secure America, attributing the 45% increase in homicides and 41% increase in home invasions to illegal immigrants. Phoenix Police Department reports confirm those figures and Sgt. Tony Morales believes there is no doubt that the statistics are tied to illegal immigrants.
    • In 2004, in Los Angeles, 95% of over 1200 outstanding warrants for homicide and 67% of 17,000 fugitive felony warrants are for illegal immigrants.
    • Year 2004: www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/archive-crimes-illegal-aliens-2004
    • On 24-DEC-2003, Debbie Thomas, who was the mother of three, was killed in a head-on collision on Christmas Eve, when her car was struck by a car being driven in the wrong direction by illegal immigrant, Narciso Garcia-Jimenez. He later escaped from his hospital bed and is still at large. The car he drove had no inspection sticker and was registered to another person. When Debbie’s mom learned that her daughter’s killer survived and escaped after being treated at the hospital, she said she felt “angry, bitter and sad, all at once.”
    • On 31-JAN-2002: Six-month figures revealed a 3.3% increase in violent crime in California, including a 16% rise in homicides, over the same span in 2001.
    • In JUN-2002, Nineteen-year-old Travis Smith of Mesa, Arizona was killed by a carload of illegal immigrants being smuggled to Pennsylvania. The nation’s highways have become far more dangerous since they have been turned into smuggling thruways for criminals. The accident occurred near Monticello in southeastern Utah, as the car driven by illegal immigrant smuggler Isidro Aranda-Flores plowed head-on into Smith’s 1966 Mustang. The smuggler apparently fell asleep at the wheel.
    • In 2001, 87% of deportable immigrants, who received run letters, later disappeared; a number that was even higher (94%) for illegal immigrants from terror-sponsoring countries.
    • On 11-SEP-2001, 19 illegal immigrants killed 2,996 people, and more than 6,000 others injured. The immediate deaths included 265 on the four planes (including the terrorists), 2,606 in the World Trade Center and in the surrounding area, and 125 at the Pentagon. The attacks were the deadliest terrorist act in world history, and the most devastating foreign attack on United States soil since the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. As of September 28, 2008, a total of over 33,000 police officers, firefighters, responders, and community members have been treated for injuries and sickness related to the 9/11 attacks in New York City, including respiratory conditions, mental health problems like PTSD and depression, gastrointestinal conditions, and at least 4,166 cases of cancer; according to one advocacy group “more cops have died of illness linked to the attack than had perished in it”. The 19 perpetrators of 11-SEP-2001 were illegal immigrants, 18 of the 19 terrorist hijackers on 11-SEP-2001 possessed state-issued and/or counterfeit driver’s licenses or ID cards and ALL 19 had obtained Social Security numbers. 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and the others were from the United Arab Emirates(2), Egypt(1), and Lebanon(1). All 19 were affiliated with Al-Qaeda (a radical Sunni Muslim organization dedicated to the elimination of a Western presence in Arab countries and militantly opposed to Western foreign policy: founded by Osama bin Laden in 1988).
    • But, most Democrats, based on their recent vote in Congress, appear to want “open borders”, because, On 18-JUL-2018, only 18 (of 186) Democrats voted “YES” in the House for “continued support for all United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and personnel who carry out the important mission of ICE” and “the efforts of all Federal agencies, State law enforcement, and military personnel who bring law and order to our Nation’s borders.”.
    • www.immigrationshumancost.org/
    • www.ice.gov/voice

    OK. So, go ahead, and call me a racist because I believe those are crimes that should have never happened. Not to mention the $297 Billion in net losses due to illegal immigration.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 5:53 PM
    Comment #434162

    A study by the GAO Report (GAO-05-646R) found the following (for a study group of 55,332 illegal immigrants (about 12.7% of all 436,313) incarcerated during 1 year (1-JUL-2002 to 30-JUN-2003) in 7 of 50 states: Colorado, Florida, Montana, Oklahoma, Oregon, New Jersey, and North Carolina):

    • the study group of 55,332 illegal immigrants is only 12.7% of all illegal immigrants incarcerated in year 2003; the total number of people incarcerated in state and federal prisons and jails was 1,470,045 (in 2003, 29% (436,313) were illegal immigrants; as of 2018, 32% of all persons in federal prison are illegal immigrants);
    • each illegal immigrant was arrested an average of 8 times;
    • 80% of all arrests were in 3 states: California(58%), Texas(14%), and Arizona(8%);
    • 97% were arrested more than once;
    • 38% were arrested 2-to-5 times;
    • 32% were arrested 6-to-10 times;
    • 26% were arrested 11 or more times;
    • 80% of arrestes occurred after year 1990;
    • 5,992 of all offenses were homicides (since year 1947), which is an average of 101 homicides per year (only for the study group 55,332 illegal immigrants in 7 of 50 states);
    • Total Arrests: 459,614
    • Total Criminal Offenses: 691,890
    • Average number of criminal offenses per illegal immigrant: 13
    • Criminal offense: Drugs; Total offenses: Number: 166,722;
    • Criminal offense: Immigration (multiple offenses; the first trespass is only a misdemeanor): Total offenses: Number: 144,166;
    • Criminal offense: Traffic violations; Total offenses: Number: 55,060;
    • Criminal offense: Assault; Total offenses: Number: 50,958;
    • Criminal offense: Obstruction of justice; Total offenses: Number: 45,632;
    • Criminal offense: Burglary; Total offenses: Number: 38,689;
    • Criminal offense: Larceny/theft; Total offenses: Number: 31,883;
    • Criminal offense: Fraud, forgery, and counterfeiting; Total offenses: Number: 25,773;
    • Criminal offense: Weapons violations; Total offenses: Number: 22,263;
    • Criminal offense: Motor vehicle theft; Total offenses: Number: 20,950;
    • Criminal offense: Robbery; Total offenses: Number: 15,305;
    • Criminal offense: Stolen property; Total offenses: Number: 13,415;
    • Criminal offense: S*x offense; Total offenses: Number: 11,833;
    • Criminal offense: Disorderly conduct; Total offenses: Number: 8,768;
    • Criminal offense: Property damage; Total offenses: Number: 6,478;
    • Criminal offense: Homicide; Total offenses: Number: 5,992;
    • Criminal offense: Kidnapping; Total offenses: Number: 3,236;
    • Criminal offense: Arson; Total offenses: Number: 457;
    • Criminal offense: Other; Total offenses: Number: 24,310;

    Some people claim that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than U.S. citizens, but 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant.
    Regardless, those are all crimes that should not have happened.
    And none of that includes the estimated $297 Billion in annual net losses due to illegal immigration.
    Border states are hit much harder than northern states. For example, almost 100 over-run hospitals along the southern border have closed.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 5:57 PM
    Comment #434163

    Many thanks to d.a.n. for presenting just a few of the heinous and avoidable crimes committed by invaders of our country.

    I recall a post by phx8 in which he called for open borders. I couldn’t believe that any American could sink that low.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2018 6:01 PM
    Comment #434165

    kctim,
    Apologies about Larry King and RT. That was d.a.n. citing the American version of Russia
    Today to criticize CNN.

    All,
    Approach links used by d.a.n. with caution. Fairus.org is a hate group with ties to white supremacists.

    Posted by: phx8 at November 9, 2018 6:17 PM
    Comment #434166

    Please don’t embarrass yourself phx8 by attempting to instruct d.a.n., or any of us truth-seeking Conservatives, with claims concerning “hate groups”. You wouldn’t recognize one if they were about to remove your head from your body.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2018 6:23 PM
    Comment #434167

    Republicans, and anyone who cares about the net negative impact of massive illegal immigration, they had better pull their heads out, and get serious about the following:

    • [1] Secure and continuously monitor the borders; the cost to do so will be far less than the $297 Billion in annual net losses due to illegal immigration;
    • [2] Pass laws to require eVerify (or similar service) to verify eligibility for employment in the U.S., and harshly prosecute greedy illegal employers; with harsh fines that double, triple, or quadruple for subsequent violations, with jail-time for the administrators of companies who are repeat offenders. After all, pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for profits is despicable;
    • [3] Arrest and deport ALL criminal illegal immigrants that have committed felonies; some criminal illegal immigrants are too dangerous to release since they could return; it is not necessary to deport non-criminal illegal immigrants, because they will stop coming to the U.S., and most will self-deport when all of the magnets that attract illegal immigrants to the U.S. are eliminated; deportation is expensive, so allow non-criminal illegal immigrants the opportunity to self-deport; currently, 32% of all persons in federal prison are illegal immigrants;
    • [4] Protect U.S. citizens’ benefits and privileges, and deny those benefits and privileges to all illegal immigrants (i.e. welfare; food stamps; free healthcare; Medicaid; free housing; free education; jobs; driver licenses; voting; voter registration; etc.);
    • [5] Pass a law that make the first illegal trespass of the U.S. border a felony (not merely a misdemeanor); 2nd and subsequent illegal border trespasses are already a felony; also pass a law to end “catch and release”, and incarcerate illegal immigrants (who have already violated U.S. law(s)) until their disposition is decided by the court(s); also ensure that there are sufficient resources to house and maintain illegal immigrants until their dispostion is decided by the court(s);
    • [6] ONLY after the above are implemented, consider a pathway to citizenship (not amnesty) for illegal immigrants who can prove that they were brought to the United States by a parent when very young (when less than age X1-to-X2), have been living in the U.S. for Y1-to-Y2 years, have attended U.S. schools for Z1-to-Z2 years), have no parents or gaurdians that care for them, can pass a basic English test, and have little or no connection to the nation in which they were born (i.e. do not speak the prominent language of the nation in which they were born). That privilege does not extend to any other members or acquaintances of their family. This will be an expensive and painful process, and it won’t be perfect, but it will only get worse the longer we wait to do it.
    • [7] Then, after [3] is completed, deport ALL illegal immigrants that commit misdemeanor crimes (i.e. assault; using fake ID; driving without a driver license, which they should not have anyway, and is therefore probably a fake license; speeding; reckless driving; disorderly conduct; vandalism; etc.);
    • [8] Carefully scrutinize all requests for asylum, and enforce the laws required to obtain asylum in the U.S.;
    IF Republicans don’t care about any of that, then perhaps they care about the longevity of THEIR own party, because it is being replaced, slowly but surely, by people that do not respect any of the U.S. immigration laws, nor many other U.S. laws.
    And don’t believe the lies about illegal immigrants committing less crime than U.S. citizens, becasue much of the data available does not prove that, and it also does not explain how 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant. Also, those are all crimes that should have neverr happened.

    Look closely at the southern border and coast lines, and then recognize that Democrats have kicked the Republicans butts (big-time), because the Democrats have been pandering to illegal immigrants for 30+ years, with promises of amnesty, citizenship, healthcare, instant citizenship for new-born, foodstamps, free housing, free wellfare, drivers licenses, Medicaid, free education, etc., etc., etc. (all costing U.S. citizens an estimated $297 Billion per year in net losses).

    In addition, since the Decenial CENSUS does not verify citizenship, it is giving states with many illegal immigrants unfair representation (more representatives and electoral votes) in those states. Northern states should be upset about that too. All it takes to make the Republican party history is to flip one more state (i.e. such as Texas or Florida).

    Anyone in the U.S. has, at the very least, commited a misdemeanor.
    IF they worked, without paying taxes, drove a vehicle without a license or insurance, they broke the law.
    IF they trespassed the U.S. border more than once, that is a felony.
    So, Republicans need to pull their heads out, and start enforcing the immigration laws.
    Otherwise, the can pretty much, kiss their a$$ good-bye.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 6:25 PM
    Comment #434168

    “So, Republicans need to pull their heads out, and start enforcing the immigration laws.
    Otherwise, the can pretty much, kiss their a$$ good-bye.”

    True d.a.n.

    And shortly after Republicans kiss their collective ass’s goodbye, it will be the Democrats turn.

    Only a LW democrat could be so blind, so ignorant, and so inept as to believe that a nation with a majority of illegals won’t kick them out of the country. Why would these illegals need Democrats any more?

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2018 6:34 PM
    Comment #434169

    Good point. I had not thought of that.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 6:35 PM
    Comment #434170
    I recall a post by phx8 in which he called for open borders. I couldn’t believe that any American could sink that low.
    Yeah…disgusting. phx8, j2t2, and ohrealy excel at it. Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2018 6:37 PM
    Comment #434171

    I wonder how Democrats and RINO’s plan to survive when our national debt, and mandatory social spending, can no longer be paid by selling more debt. Every hike in Fed funds interest rates makes our debt cost rise by billions.

    I suppose these dysfunctional politicians will increase taxes to pay the debt until even the taxpayers are broke. Does anyone believe that somehow our illegal population, or Europe, or China will bail us out?

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2018 7:29 PM
    Comment #434172

    Ok first of all D., You gotta keep up my friend I should be closer to 30 quotables by now and you have me at 24, can you catch up on this please?

    Next and even more important any conservative/repub/populist/nationalist/ that makes any claims about voter fraud is a hypocrite. You have zero integrity and zero credibility. You have absolutely no right to say anything about voter fraud. Your team has been at it since 2010 with voter suppression and extreme gerrymandering. To complain about any of these things you guys are whining about in this thread without one bit of evidence to back it up is cowardly as it is hypocritical on your part. You are as bad as Trump and the problem with that is, as you know, his reputation as a serial liar is well known. He isn’t proof of anything except you guys are projecting along with your whining.

    Posted by: j2t2 at November 9, 2018 7:29 PM
    Comment #434173

    When are we going to realize the federal government can’t control 370 million people? It’s impossible, yet we still blindly look east for any solution to every problem!

    Why do we, Americans for God’s sake, think a large bureaucracy relying on force is the best we can do? I don’t get it. Are we that brainwashed that we think being dominated by the federal government is the only solution available for managing the United States? To call that freedom is laughable!

    We’ve gone so far past the intentions of the original U.S. Constitution we can no longer recognize it. Where does it say the states are subservient to the federal government’s bribery? I guess the answer to that is the 16th and 17th amendments.

    Where does it say one person can dictate to the entire population? I guess the answer to that is the 14th amendment.

    Where does it say the supreme court can create law? I guess the answer to that is not where, but who. The who is the supreme court itself!

    Who gave corporations the right to be equal to a living, breathing citizen of the U.S.? I guess the answer to that is the same supreme court that gave itself the ability to write law.

    Why do we accept this?

    The SC ignores the constitution and then demands we adhere to it’s wishes. Who gave it that right?

    The federal government has the constitutional authority to control immigration into this country, yet we have the court saying the state can ignore federal immigration law! Who gave it the right?

    We’ve given up defending the constitution a long time ago. We’re spending our time debating, unsuccessfully, the things the federal government has no business doing in the first place! Is anyone here willing to say the federal government is the only entity in existence that can manage a national retirement program? Does anyone here believe it is impossible for a credit card company to manage a real time voting system for this country?

    C’mon! Have we simply surrendered every aspect of our lives to the federal government?
    It sure as fuck sounds like it.

    How many people can list the names of their city’s legislature without looking it up?

    Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 7:36 PM
    Comment #434174

    Now it’s extreme gerrymandering. Nice job, j2t2! Is that you backing up your claims, or are you just prattling on like normal? I vote for you’re prattling on again. I don’t understand how you can call that comment backing up your assertions.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 7:43 PM
    Comment #434175

    Can anyone tell me how many jobs George Washington created during his presidency? How many national parks did he create? What was the total amount he spent for his reelection? How many votes did he get?

    Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 7:49 PM
    Comment #434176

    I truly believe the law limiting the HOR to 435 is a disaster to the people’s representation in the federal government. It makes the people’s representation a zero sum game. For one state to gain, another must lose. It does not allow for population growth, and representation is diluted each decade.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2018 8:26 PM
    Comment #434191
    Look closely at the southern border and coast lines, and then recognize that Democrats have kicked the Republicans butts (big-time), because the Democrats have been pandering to illegal immigrants for 30+ years, with promises of amnesty, citizenship, healthcare, instant citizenship for new-born, foodstamps, free housing, free wellfare, drivers licenses, Medicaid, free education, etc., etc., etc. (all costing U.S. citizens an estimated $297 Billion per year in net losses).


    D. Really are you being intentionally misleading or can you simply not have a rational thought? Perhaps your extreme nationalistic views are keeping you from realizing any other options as to why there tends to be more Hispanics along the border. This bout of stupidity is below you D. Think this out a bit. Tell you what look at this map and ask yourself if you can open yourself up to another possible reason. Also 30 years ago it was the Reagan amnesty not the Carter amnesty so is your claim just more of those “D.facts” that we all know just aren’t true? While we are on it, and sorry this doesn’t come from a white nationalist site so it may be a bit more factual than you are use to but “One study finds that the legalization of three million immigrants reduced crime by 3-5%, primarily property crime.[12] The author finds that this is due to greater job market opportunities for the immigrants.[1”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

    Weary, why the flat earth question on Washington?

    Posted by: j2t2 at November 10, 2018 1:23 PM
    Comment #434192

    RF,
    “Please don’t embarrass yourself… by attempting to instruct d.a.n., or any of us truth-seeking Conservatives, with claims concerning “hate groups”. You wouldn’t recognize one…”

    “The bottom line is, FAIR doesn’t peddle facts; it peddles hate. Its lobbying and legal efforts – such as the campaign that led to Arizona’s SB 1070 and Alabama’s HB 56 – are based on fomenting fear, on exploiting racial tensions and economic anxieties to convince people that they had better not let any more “aliens” into their country.”

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

    Fairus.org was founded by John Tanton, a white supremacist, or white nationalist, if you prefer that term. He promotes eugenics. Some really ugly stuff there. You know what eugenics is, right?

    So you are welcome to side with d.a.n. and white supremacist hate groups. You are welcome to side with an adversary’s propaganda media outlet, Russia Today, against the American free press.

    As for the rest of you “truth-seeking” conservatives, I would once again advise caution about using d.a.n.’s links to white supremacists and Russian propaganda. If you are seeking “truth” from hate groups and Russia Today, you might want to seek elsewhere.

    Posted by: phx8 at November 10, 2018 1:46 PM
    Comment #434193
    j2t2 ignorantly wrote: Next and even more important any conservative/repub/populist/nationalist/ that makes any claims about voter fraud is a hypocrite.
    j2t2 is proven wrong, again.
      First of all, the Law states:
    • Section 905(b) of HAVA, codified at 42 U.S.C. §15544(b), asserts plainly: (b) False Information in Registering and Voting: Any individual who knowingly commits fraud or knowingly makes a false statement with respect to the naturalization, citizenry, or alien registry of such individual in violation of section 1015 of title 18, United States Code, shall be fined or imprisoned, or both, in accordance with such section.
    However, there are far more serious crimes by illegal immigrants, that vastly eclipses voter fraud by illegal immigrants ?

    But, some people, like j2t2, phx8 (who want open borders), and similar ilk, choose to trivialize crimes by illegal immigrants, including voter fraud by illegal immigrants, and then have the gall to (laughably) question others’ credibility.

    Why?
    What kind of person despicably pits U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants each other for votes, and for profits from cheap labor, despite the thousands of preventable crimes and net losses (about $279 Billion per year due to illegal immigration: Source: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/ )?
    What kind of person claims those U.S. citizens are hypocrites? Especially the victims and survivors of so many crimes by illegal immigrants?

    In close elections (such as this year, and many others in the past), a handful of votes can decide an election. Democrats know that, and are working hard to distract their opponents from that simple fact.

    Here is the evidence (that j2t2 and phx8 claim does not exist).
    Here is the evidence that illegal immigrants are voting in our U.S. elections (which is a crime), and it is mostly due to despicable panderaing by Democrats for over 30 years):

    • North Carolina Department of Justice Case. The Justice Department charged 19 aliens accused of illegally voting in the 2016 election. Source: cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud
    • www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/19-illegal-immigrants-in-nc-voted-in-2016-election-feds/83-587333046
    • fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-us-elections
    • www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/san-francisco-allows-undocumented-immigrants-vote-school-elections-n893221
    • www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Mexican-national-pleads-guilty-to-illegal-voting-13228190.php
    • www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/more-cases-voter-fraud-pile-liberals-look-the-other-way
    • www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/add-these-voter-fraud-cases-the-growing-list
    • www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article219920740.html
    • www.foxnews.com/politics/mexican-woman-charged-with-voter-fraud-accused-of-illegally-voting-in-2016-election
    • www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Mexican-national-indicted-for-illegal-voting-in-12914425.php
    • www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/grandmother-deported-voter-fraud-leaves-u-s-tears-n789766
    • www.cnsnews.com/news/article/annabel-scott/govt-employees-arrested-allegedly-selling-false-ids-illegal-aliens-voter
    • www.themonitor.com/news/local/article_e714d3b6-5f99-11e8-b5d6-bfc6cb82714e.html
    • www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-02-10/urbana-man-charged-living-voting-us-illegally.html
    • www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSbe4fK1crg (registered in multiple cities, and voted five times; she blames Trump)
    • www.krgv.com/story/38258409/2-arrested-in-hidalgo-co-for-voter-fraud
    • townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/07/29/22-illegal-aliens-arrested-in-identity-fraud-scheme-n2504580
    • www.dallasnews.com/news/elections/2017/07/13/suspect-west-dallas-vote-fraud-arrested-month-run
    • newbostonpost.com/2017/08/02/feds-bust-six-in-alleged-rmv-identity-fraud-scheme-to-benefit-illegal-immigrants/
    • www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/illegal-aliens-really-do-vote-and-always-for-democrats
    • www.ice.gov/news/releases/illegal-alien-arrested-charged-voter-fraud
    • thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/312239-feds-should-worry-less-about-russia-more-about-illegal-voters
    • In the 2008 Presidential Election, a 2014 article published in the journal Electoral Studies found that “non-citizen voters likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform.” The report also noted that “there is reason to believe non-citizen voting changed one state’s Electoral College votes in 2008, delivering North Carolina to Obama.”
    • Voter Fraud by illegal immigrants: cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud
    • In August 2018, at least 3,100 aliens were registered to vote in 13 different sanctuary jurisdictions between 2006 and 2018. The “Safe Spaces” report noted that “detection and removal of noncitizen voters [was] generally dependent on the noncitizens self-reporting their ineligible status at the risk of immigration jeopardy and even deportation.” This report suggested five solutions that would close off the voter registration system to aliens, including building better information-sharing procedures with DHS to prevent ineligible applications from proceeding;
    • 5,556 non-citizens have been removed from the voter rolls for citizenship problems in 120 of Virginia’s 133 voting jurisdictions since 2011. In 102 of these jurisdictions, 1,852 individuals cast 7,474 ballots before election officials cancelled their registrations. In the other 13 voting jurisdictions, election officials have not removed a single record from the voter rolls because of citizenship problems in over 6 years;
    • The Voter Fraud Database maintains a list of election fraud cases, including instances of ineligible voting and false registrations totaling 400 cases. Source: cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud
    • Following the 2016 election, the Department of Justice charged multiple people in North Carolina with illegally voting. The recent case in California shows that thousands of aliens can be accidentally registered to vote on a regular basis. The Public Interest Legal Foundation suggested that the election of Virginia’s attorney general in 2013, decided by only 164 votes, may have been decided by non-citizen voters. Source: cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud
    • California demonstrates it’s ignorance and ineptitude when the California’s Department of Motor Vehicles provides voter registration services in addition to driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. Source: cis.org/Cadman/Illegally-Registered-Voters-Georgia-My-Mind
    • There has clear evidence of voter fraud by illegal immigrants, discovered in a number of studies, but those studies have been limited in duration and scope, due in no small part to the intransigence of electoral officials in lending their help. Source: cis.org/NonCitizen-Voters
    • A Salvadoran national who entered the U.S. illegally was indicted on multiple counts of voter fraud. Prosecutors say Mario Obdulio Orellana registered to vote as a U.S. citizen and voted in the November 2016 election. Source: www.wilsoncountynews.com/news/2018-07-11/Blogs/Aliens_Fuel_Voter_Fraud_in_Texas.html
    • Following last year’s prosecution of Mexican national Rosa Ortega, who illegally voted in Texas for over 10 years, the latest cases expose what the state Attorney General’s Office calls a “lack of safeguards in the system to detect ineligible voters, like non-citizens.”
    • A non-citizen was indicted for marking a ballot without a voter’s consent. Marcela Gutierrez allegedly led a voter to believe she was demonstrating how to use a voting machine while actually casting votes for a slate of candidates she was paid to support.
    • Starr District Attorney Omar Escobar (Texas, Starr County) confirmed that non-U.S. citizens are on the voter lists there. The only question is how many. A survey of four other Texas counties found that 165 unlawfully registered non-citizens were removed from those counties’ voter rolls in the past two years – but only after they self-identified as non-citizens in the process of recusing themselves from jury duty. Those non-citizens had cast 100 illegal votes.
    • Texas AG to Prosecute Non-Citizen Voter Fraud in Harris County; Source: empowertexans.com/local/texas-ag-to-prosecute-non-citizen-voter-fraud-in-harris-county/
    • Voter Fraud by state: Source www.info.com/serp?q=voter%20fraud%20by%20state&segment=info.0571&s1aid=1490426478&s1cid=1477584655&s1agid=54005019821&s1kid=kwd-302909390550&utm_source=adwords&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoJrfBRC0ARIsANqkS_7zbwEhgHfPJxtjo3tWWiGGlfDyR0qTycx7MYQGmqT25OqR2Ro4GRoaAtL2EALw_wcB
    • The Illinois News Network (INN) is reporting that the City of Chicago’s new identification card, created with illegal aliens in mind, is being deemed acceptable by the State of Illinois for voter registration purposes. Source: cis.org/Cadman/Chicago-Dilutes-Right-Vote-Designating-Illegal-Alien-ID-Card-Registration-Document
    • One thing is very obvious. Democrats are trying to register illegal immigrants to vote, and often when they simultanously register for drivers licenses to illegal immigrants (in the states where Democrats are conniving, for obvious nefarious purposes, under the despicable guise that it makes us safer). In the 10 states that do not require lawful proof of presence for an applicant to obtain a driver’s license (HI, MD, MI, MT, NM, NC, OR, UT, WA, WI), 14.4% of illegal immigrants cause traffic fatalities, more than the national average of 13.6%. Approximately 20% percent of all car accidents nationwide involve a driver who lacks a valid license, and 14.6% are by illegal immigrants. Source: fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/unlicensed-kill
    • 13-OCT-2016: “Liberals have been repeating their frequent claim that voter fraud doesn’t exist. A recent Salon article argues that “voter fraud just isn’t a problem in Pennsylvania,” despite evidence to the contrary. Another article argues that voter fraud is entirely in the imagination of those who use voter ID laws to deny minorities the right to vote.”; Source: thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/
    • California is registering illegal immigrants to vote in school board elections. California, and 9 other states automatically register illegal aliens to vote, when they apply for a drivers license. Source: www.snopes.com/fact-check/san-francisco-voter-registration/
    • Voter Fraud: 670 Ballots Cast in Georgia Precinct with only 276 Voters; Source: www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/08/07/voter-fraud-670-ballots-cast-georgia-precinct-276-voters/
    • California DMV discovered that 1,500 legal immigrants were registered to vote within a span of only 5 months. Source: cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud
    • In Colorado, multiple instances were found of dead people attempting to vote. Stunningly, “a woman named Sara Sosa who died in 2009 cast ballots in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013.” In Virginia, it was found that nearly 20 voter applications were turned in under the names of dead people.
      Source: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/23/colorado-voter-fraud-revealed-slew-of-ballots-cast/
    • The Brennan Center despicably and falsely claims that it is dedicated to protecting the rule of law, but it lies, repeatedly, claiming that voter fraud by non-U.S. citizens is a myth. However, the Election Board of North Carolina investigated, and found 41 non-citizens (from 28 different countries) voted illegally. All were not eligible to vote. The audit also found 24 cases of double-voting and two cases of voter impersonation (one by mail and one in person). The investigation also found 508 ineligible votes cast, and about 87% (441) were by felons who voted. State law prohibits felons from voting until their sentence is fully served, including probation and parole. Source: www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article146486019.html#storylink=cpy
    • 21-APR-2017: An investigation by the N.C. Board of Elections has found that 508 voters who cast ballots last November were not eligible to vote – and the vast majority of them were felons serving active sentences… In addition, the investigation found 41 non-citizens who cast ballots, 24 voters who voted twice and two people who falsely voted using the name of a family member who had recently died.
      Source: www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article145971264.html
    • Federal authorities announced Friday that 19 illegal immigrants in North Carolina illegally voted during the 2016 election. Source: www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/19-illegal-immigrants-in-nc-voted-in-2016-election-feds/83-587333046
    • Voter Fraud in North Carolina: Source: www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=NC
    • Voter Fraud in the U.S.: In East Chicago, Indiana, a city with 30,000 residents, voting fraud was so systemic in 2003 that the State Supreme Court ordered a new election with heightened verification. When unlawful voters were prohibited from casting a ballot, the outcome of the election changed. The problem is not unique to Indiana. A 2013 National Hispanic Survey study by Republican pollster John McLaughlin asked a sample of 800 likely Hispanic voters if they were American citizens. 13 percent admitted they were not. n 2014, a study released by a team of professors from Old Dominion University and George Mason University estimated that approximately 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted In the 2008 presidential election. Source: fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-us-elections
    • Full studies and investigations of voting by illegal immigrants has been attempted, but Democrats in 44 of 50 states refused to cooperate. Source: www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/politics/kris-kobach-letter-voter-fraud-commission-information/index.html

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 1:48 PM
    Comment #434194

    phx8 stupidly posts an article that criticizes affiliations to FAIRus.org, but fails to recognize that the vast majority of sources are by news stations from all over the U.S., and the GAO.

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 1:59 PM
    Comment #434195

    phx8 and j2t2 demonstrate so beautifully what happens when they try to deceive with their lies, obfuscations, name-calling, and circular gobbledygook.

    Such lame arguments and lies are all too easy to disprove.
    And calling everyone who disagrees: Racists, Fascists, Nazis, Beastialists , Brown Shirts, Traitors, etc., is simply a dead giveaway that their arguments are failing).

    Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 2:07 PM
    Comment #434196

    Thanks for the link to the SPLC phx8. Here’s a quote from that article that, one would assume, you agree with; as do I.

    “Our Objectives,” FAIR said it seeks “to influence public policy directly by lobbying (to the extent permitted by our tax status) and by protecting the citizens’ rights in the courts.” Its “mission,” in part, is to “advocate immigration policies that will best serve American environmental, societal, and economic interests today and into the future.”

    Does anyone, anyone at all object to legal lobbying?

    Of course we know what “Eugenics” is phx8. Do you? It formed the basis of Planned Parenthood to promote the abortion of Black babies. http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

    Following is some interesting reading about the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) that phx8 appears to admire.

    “Writing in the left-wing website Counterpunch, Alexander Coburn called SPLC founder Morris Dees “king of the hate business.” Coburn wrote, “Ever since 1971, U.S. Postal Service mailbags have bulged with Dees’ fundraising letters, scaring dollars out of the pockets of trembling liberals aghast at his lurid depictions of hate-sodden America, in dire need of legal confrontation by the SPLC.” In fact, so prolific is Dees at direct mail that he is in the Direct Marketing Association Hall of Fame.

    Writing at the Harper’s Magazine blog in 2007, Ken Silverstein said, “What [the SPLC] does best… is to raise obscene amounts of money by hyping fears about the power of [right-wing fringe] groups; hence the SPLC has become the nation’s richest ‘civil rights’ organization.”

    A critical analysis published recently by Professor George Yancey of North Texas University concluded that SPLC targets only those groups its leaders disagree with politically while leaving liberal groups who use extreme language alone.

    A 2013 article in Foreign Policy concluded that SPLC exaggerates the hate crimes threat, saying SPLC is not an “objective purveyor of data,” instead calling them “anti-hate activists” and suggesting that their reports need to be “weighed more carefully by news outlets that cover their pronouncements.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2014/03/26/fbi-dumps-southern-poverty-law-center/

    Phx8 writes; ” You are welcome to side with an adversary’s propaganda media outlet, Russia Today, against the American free press.”

    Once again our Liberal Pal proves he can’t comprehend even simple concepts.

    I welcome the “truth” regardless of the source. If “Russia Today” prints a truthful article, and the “NYT” prints a false article; which would phx8 believe?

    Surely our Pal phx8 does not believe that “truth” is automatically attached to some particular source.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2018 3:23 PM
    Comment #434197

    “Here is the evidence (that j2t2 and phx8 claim does not exist).”

    Many thanks d.a.n. for taking time to provide all this evidence.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2018 3:29 PM
    Comment #434198

    j2t2, why do you answer a question with a question? Geesh! You know, silence is widely considered to be consent. You must agree with everything else I just commented, right?

    I posed a number of questions, people. Is anyone going to address them or are we going to continue to verbally spew hate and accusations with each other using the same tired talking points over and over again?

    Do you believe only the federal government can manage a national retirement program? Answer the question so we can get a baseline. If you agree that only the federal government can manage a national retirement program, just say it. I won’t call you a racist or a Nazi or a fascist or a ageist or communist (well, maybe a communist). At least we could get an idea on where we stand.

    Also, wouldn’t you think, the more population grows so should the House of Representatives? For each decade the population grows and the HOR remains the same. Each decade the people’s representation is spread among greater and greater numbers of people. The districts must get larger and larger, or the cities must get more and more populated with the same number of reps. How are they to get the same representation when their rep is divided between greater and greater numbers of people? The cap at 435 people makes the HOR a private club, not an equal representation of the people’s demands.

    George Washington was reelected with 132 votes.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 3:29 PM
    Comment #434199

    “Do you believe only the federal government can manage a national retirement program?”

    Weary, only the federal government can institute and manage a national program. I need more clarity.

    “Also, wouldn’t you think, the more population grows so should the House of Representatives?”

    No, I agree that the “Method of Equal Proportion” adopted by Congress in 1941 is a sufficient and manageable number.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2018 3:39 PM
    Comment #434200
    Weary Willie wrote: When are we going to realize the federal government can’t control 370[320-to-332 including 12 million illegal immigrants] people?
    Weary Willie. I am not sure what you are asking for ?
    Weary Willie wrote: We’ve gone so far past the intentions of the original U.S. Constitution we can no longer recognize it… . We’re spending our time debating, unsuccessfully, the things the federal government has no business doing in the first place!
    Yes, I agree (about all of this is ridiculous bureaucracy), but the most basic responsibilty of the federal government is national security, and securing the borders, so that these horrible and preventable crimes do not continue. Sanctuary cities and states are violating the U.S. Constitution and federal laws. What is the federal government doing to stop it?
    Weary Willie wrote: The SC ignores the constitution and then demands we adhere to it’s wishes. Who gave it that right?
    Yes, it does ignore the Constitution, and ignoring Article V is one of the most serious violations. The vast majority of people (i.e. the voters) are culpable too, for allowing it.
    Weary Willie wrote: Also, wouldn’t you think, the more population grows so should the House of Representatives?
    No, not unless the Apportionment Act of 1911 is unconstitutional. Otherwise, we have enough bureaucrats already. 535 in Congress (100 Senate, 435 House) is plenty. A larger issue is the army (tens or hundreds of thousands) of unelected bureaucrats in the federal government, that influence and/or run D.C. (including the deep state).
    Weary Willie wrote: We’ve given up defending the constitution a long time ago.
    Not everyone.

    Only some people who want to ignore parts of the U.S. constitution.
    It is a never-ending struggle.
    But that is life.
    At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect.

      Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 4:24 PM
      Comment #434201


      Weary Willie wrote: We’ve given up defending the constitution a long time ago.

      Not everyone.

      Only some people who want to ignore parts of the U.S. constitution.

      There is a never-ending struggle between the people that “get it”, and understand and respect the “live-and-let-live” nature of the U.S. Constitution.

      And there are people that “don’t get it” (i.e. master cheaters and master-parasites) that want power to use and control others, and will stoop however low they need to in order to get what they want, in order to control others.

      It is up to those who “get it” to learn to recognize the cheaters’ tactics:

      • they try to convince you that you are the person that is wrong; when their arguments fail, they call you racist, fascits, Nazi, traitor, etc.
      • they use projection to deflect from their own faults, and accuses others of those same faults;
      • they don’t want to hear the truth; they use many tactics to silence you; they change the subject, and use circular and confusing arguments, obfuscations, and distractions to steer you away from the truth;
      • they move the goal posts; not only for others, but themselves when they fail, and they often try to find someone or something else to blame;
      • they use triagulation, to tap into others’ of similar ilk to take their side against those they want to manipulate;
      • they are toxic, often abusive, and often have temper tantrums; call you names (i.e. racist, fascist, Nazi, bigot, etc., etc., etc.);
      • they are controlling, and they will stoop lower and lower to acquire and maintain control;
      • they don’t want transparency, because they do not want the truth revealed;
      • they never accept responsibility; they are always the victim, and/or it is always someone else’s fault; they expend vast amounts of energy to deny responsibility, when it would be so much easier to use that energy to become a better person;
      • These people usually have many failed relationships, and often end up alone and lonely; they should know who they are, except, it is always someone else’s fault.
      The people that are blaming others (i.e. for the terrible crimes by others), are the type of person described above.

      Unfortunatly, there are a lot (too many) of this type of people.
      The ability to recognize it, and deal with it, is vital to the health of any individual, organization, society, and government.
      There are varying degrees of dysfunction, but these people have surrendered to selfishness, laziness, envy, hatred, pride, and/or greed.
      It may not be possible to ever cure these type of people, but it is important to be able to recognize who they are, and how to deal with them.
      The Cheaters do not like:

      • the truth (which often requires some education);
      • taking responsibility;
      • being held accountable;
      Some Cheaters may be sick, and lacking little, if any virtue, and it is probably evident in their lives.
      Part of the solution (the ability to recognize it, and deal with it, is vital to the health of any individual, organization, society, and government) is understanding the following (a simple formula):
      • Adequately Responsible Government = Power + Virtue + Education + Transparency + Accountability ;
      • Corruption, Pain, and Misery = Power - Virtue - Education - Transparency - Accountability ;
      Where (sufficient amounts and understanding of each component of the formula are required for any responsible and successful individual, organization, society, and government):
      • Virtue = the source of moral and ethical judgment; a sense of right and wrong; a sense of caring. Virtue is not merely knowing what is right or wrong, but caring enough to do what is right; the motivation to seek the balance of Education, Transparency, Accountability, and Power required for any successful individual, organization, society, and government;
      • Education = an understanding of the importance of: Virtue, Education, Transparency, Accountability, Power, Responsibility, Corruption, and the human factor (human psychology); humans naturally seek security and prosperity with the least effort and pain, and some people will sometimes resort to dishonest, unethical, or illegal methods to obtain it; Education can also, potentially, compensate for a lack of Virtue, and the other components, if there is a realization by an individual they they can thrive best when the goal is for everyone to thrive;
      • Transparency = visibility and simplification of cleverly over-complicated processes to reveal and identify abusers, reveal the truth, create outrage, reduce opportunities for abuse, and discourage abuse and dishonesty;
      • Accountability = consequences needed to encourage law enforcement, encourage ethical behavior, and discourage abuse and dishonesty;
      • Power = force required to enforce the laws, discontinue abuses, ensure consequences, punish abusers, and discourage future abuse and dishonesty;
      So, IF you think about it, there are people you know, or know of, that “don’t get it”, and probably never will.

      I know there are some here that “get it”.
      Don’t give up, and don’t let the Cheaters win, nor control you.
      Even if you are losing for a while, it doesn’t mean you will always be losing.

      Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 4:51 PM
      Comment #434202

      Many thanks to d.a.n. for his “get it; don’t get it” post.

      Wow, I recognized much of what you described to be present right here on WatchBlog. I strive to be in the “get it” flock but I still have much to learn even at my age.

      Closed minds will remain closed unless, and until, some event shakes their very foundation of understanding.

      Wars can do that. Love can do that. Death can do that. And; God can do that.

      Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2018 5:14 PM
      Comment #434203
      Royal Flush wrote: Closed minds will remain closed unless, and until, some event shakes their very foundation of understanding. Wars can do that. Love can do that. Death can do that. And; God can do that.
      Royal Flush,

      It could come to any one of those outcomes. IT is not far fetched.

      Thanks!

      I may be wrong, but I think there is reason for optimism, and you are a “glass half-full, instead of “half empty” person.
      Based on how the human condition (far, far, far from perfect), it has improved in most ways (sadly, not for everyone) over the last 2000 years. And, I think it is largely due to the majority of people that “get it”, and governments, constitutions, and laws that strive to adhere to a benevolent “live and let live” philosophy.

      A “live and let live” philosophy does not mean that illegal immigrants can despicably storm, and trespass our nation’s borders, and demand citizenship, welfare, free healthcare, free education, free housing, foodstamps, Medicare, anchor babies, in-state tuitions, right-to-vote, drivers licenses, vote in our elections, and (essentially) abuse the system. The fact that many (if not most) Democrats defend all of that is revealing, and IF you don’t support it, you are a racist, fascist, Nazi, Beastialist, traitor, etc.

      All U.S. Citizens, that don’t support Open-Borders, may want to think about the consequences of a nation with open-borders.
      But, if there are not enough U.S. Citizens with a disdain for the policy of open-borders, then they will have exactly what they deserve.
      They will essentially have what they have sowed. Careful what they wish for.

      Because, as Royal Flush wrote, after Democrats let illegal immigrants overrun the nation, what use will Democrats be to them? Perhaps, none.

      Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 7:39 PM
      Comment #434204

      So right d.a.n. Socialism leads to
      Venezuela or worse.

      Posted by: Roy ellis at November 10, 2018 9:48 PM
      Comment #434205

      Thanks for the input. It seem I have my work cut out for me, because I still believe we don’t recognize the original intent of the constitution.

      We’re navigating on interpretations and precedents that contradict the original intent of the constitution. It is precedent because it defies the original intent.

      We assume these precedents are law and permanent. I suggest they may be mistakes and are harmful.

      The only way we’re going to find the truth is to discuss it in a rational manner that allows us to contribute to the matter at hand.

      Is the constitution relevant, or will the many interpretations and precedents dominate? We either have a constitution or we have a jurisdiction. What is it?

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 9:55 PM
      Comment #434206

      First point:

      It’s a republic, not a democracy.

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 10:16 PM
      Comment #434207

      The sooner we get this through our thick heads, the better.

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 10:17 PM
      Comment #434208

      j2t2, phx8, are we in agreement? We have a republic form of government, yes?

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 10:23 PM
      Comment #434209

      Even I cannot believe you would contradict me, so I will continue.

      If you think our government is failing us, by definition it is our own fault. You cannot deny that. If our government is a failure it is because we elected people who have failed.

      Why?

      Because we have been led to believe our federal government is more important to our well being than our local government is.

      It’s a sham! It’s a mirage. It took a century for the flaws to reveal themselves. A century without side effects. That doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful.

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 10:42 PM
      Comment #434210

      The Progressive movement is socialism. The Progressive movement has dominated the U.S. Political system since Teddy Roosevelt was president.

      The year 1913 should be a central point of discussion in American history. How many of you know what happened in 1913?

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 11:05 PM
      Comment #434211

      While we’re looking at that, let’s keep the Kennedy assassination in the back of our minds.

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 11:12 PM
      Comment #434212

      1913 is like tower 7.

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 11:16 PM
      Comment #434213

      So now you’re all going to disappear for another 3 days?

      Are you afraid of an intelligent discussion? Grow a pair!

      Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 11:20 PM
      Comment #434214
      Weary Willie wrote: Is the constitution relevant, or will the many interpretations and precedents dominate?
      It is definitely relevant.

      Some people only think the parts they like are relevant.

      I think an Article V Convention is needed to amend and propose amendments, but Congress has ignored it for decades, despite 39 states (more than the 2/3 of the states) have filed applications for an Article V Convention. Some common-sense amendments might be:

      • (a)Term Limits;
      • (b)Balanced Budget amemdent;
      • (c)amend 14th to remove birthright citizenship;
      • (d)amend apportionment of representatives to make voters-per-representative (and electoral votes) more equal (currently, Texas has the least U.S. Representation, with the most voters per representative);
      • (e)One Purpose per BILL amendment (no pork-barrel attached); (f)Campaign Finance amendment (if it does not violate another freedom or amendment)? Government is not supposed to be FOR SALE (just think of all the million$ and billion$ spent on elections!?!);
      • (g)An amendment to guarantee Congress cannot violate their oath of office to call an Article V Convention;
      You may find the following interesting (see list of Constitutional Amendments):
        It took two years to ratify the Bill of Rights; ratified in 1789 (the 1st 10 Amendments).
        One year to ratify the 11th Amendment (state immunity from out-of-state persons or entities).
        One year to ratify the 12th Amendment (sets election of POTUS & VP at the same time).
        Less than a year to ratify the 13th Amendment (abolished slavery).
        Two years to ratify 14th Amendment (defines citizenship).
        One year to ratify 15th Amendment (defines voting rights).
        Four years to ratify 16th (permits an income tax).
        One year to ratify the 17th (direct election of Senators).
        Two years to ratify the 18th (prohibition of alcohol).
        One year to ratify the 20th (define dates of POTUS and VP begin and end).
        Less than a year to ratify the 21st (this repealed the 18th Amendment re: prohibition).
        Four years to ratify the 22nd Amendment (limits number of terms of POTUS).
        One year to ratify the 23rd (grants D.C. electors).
        Two years to ratify the 24th (prohibits revocation of voting rights due to debts).
        Two years to ratify the 25th (defines succession for POTUS and VP if vacant or disabled).
        Less than a year to ratify the 26th (prohibits denial of right to vote for age 18+).
        203 years to ratify the 27th (delays Congressional salary until after next House election).

      Weary Willie, Perhaps you could start a new thread/article, and begin with one of the most serious problem (or set of related problems) facing the nation, and how you believe it relates to ignored portions or violated portions of the U.S. Constitution?

        There is no doubt that all of this bureaucracy of nightmare proportions is far, far, far beyond what the federal government should be responsible for.

        The problem with such a bloated bureaucracy of nightmare proportions is that:

        • The government it is responsible for everything, but accountable for nothing.

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 11:41 PM
        Comment #434215

        And, then there is the 7 Articles of the U.S. Constitution … .

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 10, 2018 11:44 PM
        Comment #434216

        I’m glad to see your support for *(d)

        Term limits isn’t a constitutional matter, it’s a mindset matter. You can’t dictate how a person votes. You can’t take his options away. The vote is itself, term limits. We just don’t think of it that way.

        Define the responsibilities of the federal government as per the constitution.

        Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2018 11:54 PM
        Comment #434217

        I want you to comment on the responsibilities of the federal government as defined by the U.S. Constitution.

        Posted by: Weary Willie at November 11, 2018 12:00 AM
        Comment #434218

        I love you guys, but you have to start thinking outside the box.

        How many of you think of your party first? Do you try to justify what you believe by destroying any opposition?

        Posted by: Weary Willie at November 11, 2018 12:31 AM
        Comment #434219

        What happened in 1913 ?
        Several things happened:

        • Woordrow Wilson signed the 1% income tax into existence [WOW! Too bad it isn’t still 1%].
        • Woodrow Wilson (one of the worst presidents in U.S. history) signed an Executive Order that created the Federal Reserve.
        • U.S. Postal Service started parcel post deliveries.
        • Ford Motor Company institutes world’s 1st moving assembly line for the Model T Ford.

        I am guessing you are referring to the 1% income tax that started in 1913.
        But, there something else that happened in 1913: The federal reserve was created in 1913.

        However, at that time, the worst thing that happened was probably the creation of the Federal Reserve.
        The Federal Reserve is now a huge, upside-down debt pyramid scheme.
        In many cases, the Federal Reserve has caused, and/or worsened economic conditions (e.g. The Great Depression).
        Also, as a result:

        • A 2010 dollar is now worth only 87 cents in SEP-2018.
        • A 2000 dollar is now worth only 70 cents.\__30% loss of value
        • A 1990 dollar is now worth only 54 cents./
        • A 1980 dollar is now worth only 34 cents.\__113% loss of value
        • A 1970 dollar is now worth only 16 cents./
        • A 1960 dollar is now worth only 12 cents.
        • A 1950 dollar is now worth only 10 cents.\__40% loss of value
        • A 1940 dollar is now worth only 06 cents./
        • A 1933 dollar is now worth only 05 cents.\__25% loss of value
        • A 1913 dollar is now worth only 04 cents./
        A 1% income tax seems VERY reasonable by today’s standard (compared to a ridiculous top income tax rate of 37% + 7.65% for S.S. & Medicare + 7.65% S.S & Medicare matching paid by the employer; and up to 15% income tax on capital gains).
        Too bad we can’t return to a 1% income tax.
        How did the U.S. get by from 1787 to 1913 (126 years) without that 1% income tax?

        When the Federal Reserve gained control the volume of money, it became our absolute masters, and the Federal Reserve had to get the Gold away from our grandparents. This was accomplished in 1933 with the threats of fines and imprisonments by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and with the help of his aide, Harry Hopkins, who said:

        • “Elect, elect, elect, tax, tax, tax, spend, spend, spend, for the people are too damned stupid to understand”.
        Few (if any) will dare speak above a whisper in condemnation of the Federal Reserve:
        • “Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when the speak in condemnation of it.” — Woodrow Wilson, President of the U.S. 1913-1921;
        • In a letter to Edward M. House (President Woodrow Wilson’s closest aide), dated November 23, 1933, Franklin D. Roosevelt said: “The real truth of the matter is, and you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.” — Woodrow Wilson;
        • “I sincerely believe … that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale.” — Thomas Jefferson;
        • “Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money.” — Daniel Webster;
        • “All the perplexities, confusion and distresses in America arise not from defects in the constitution or confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.” — John Adams;
        • “There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.” — Lord John Maynard Keynes (1883-1946), renowned British economist;
        • Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., in 1913 said: “When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.”
        The U.S. National Debt (federal government debt) is $21.7 Trillion.
        Americans owe about $13 Trillion to the Federal Reserve.
        Debt owed by the U.S. Federal Government to the Federal Reserve skyrocketed from about $0.5 Trillion in 2008 to $2.8 Trillion in 2018 today.
        About $8 Trillion of the U.S. National Debt was money borrowed from Social Security, and is still owed to Social Security.

        Weary Willie wrote: How many of you think of your party first? Do you try to justify what you believe by destroying any opposition?
        No. I was and independent, but I can NEVER be a Democrat, because Democrats want: open borders; to abolish I.C.E.; to pander to illegal immigrants for votes; sanctuary cities & states; more amnesties, drivers licenses, and voting for illegal immigrants; welfare, healthcare, footstamps, free eduction, & free housing for illegal immigrants; higher taxes; “guilty until proven innocent”; to abolish the 2nd amendment; a nanny state with massive cradle-to-grave programs that are wasteful and corrupt; to label anyone who disagrees with the above as: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis !
        Weary Willie wrote: I want you to comment on the responsibilities of the federal government as defined by the U.S. Constitution.
        I am afraid you will have to be more specific. What Article(s), Amendment(s), or things currently done (and usually, not very well done) by the federal government are you referring to?
        Weary Willie wrote: Do you try to justify what you believe by destroying any opposition?
        “Destroy”?

        It’s sort of difficult to “Destroy” someone on a blog.
        All you can do debate, prove, disprove, or resort to calling everyone who disagrees with you: Racists, Fascists, Nazis!

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 11, 2018 2:17 AM
        Comment #434232

        WW, it’s hard to take on a discussion of the nuts and bolts of gov’t whilst in the middle of post elections, rampant political corruption ,Obama admin, Special Counsel, hate Trump movement, and so on …

        Add to that the world order, or disorder brought about by Russia beefing up again in Crimea/Ukraine, China working up socialist movements in South America and Africa. Consider Rio, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and others …

        And, it seems the newcomers to country want to follow ole Bernie and his ilk right over the cliff … A lot of new ‘blue’ in the middle of the country and that is worrisome…

        I’m way to hyped up as to the outcome of the Fl, Ga, and Az election outcomes. I find it interesting that that Hillary’s lawyer that paid for the FISA dossier is now overseeing the dim effort to steal elections in Florida.

        Just reading thru this thread turns me to a cherry red. Gov. Rick Scott should have fired the election lady with past screwups. Now, shes screwed up again an he is in no position to fire her. Kinda like President Trump and Jeff Session and Rosenstein.

        And, what about the Trump haters like the MSM/Acosta who will get right in the Presidents face, try to debate him, call/label him everything in the book. FOX and the few Trump supporting media outlets have taken the GOP que and pretty much let them rant with little response. Now, I sense after the election they are not laying down for the Trump haters any longer. I hope I am right about that. I know Maria Baritova on FOX put the haters down this morning.

        And, Jerry Brown is blaming Calif. burning on climate change.

        And, what will the dim House do now, to try and take down Trump?

        I’m in no mood to start counting the freckles on Benjamin Franklins ass…

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 11, 2018 8:20 PM
        Comment #434242

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        Posted by: Programming Assignment Help at November 12, 2018 1:25 AM
        Comment #434243

        So much for “D.Facts”

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 3:11 AM
        Comment #434251

        I guess I’ll start over.

        When are we going to realize the federal government can’t control 370 million people? It’s impossible, yet we still blindly look east for any solution to every problem!

        Our founding fathers opposed many of the conditions that dominate the federal government now. Our founding fathers despised the corporation, yet we now consider them equal to flesh and blood people. The founders refused to turn our currency over to a central bank, yet now we are under the boot heel of the Federal Reserve. The founders resented the fact that a king, months and miles detached from the people he reigned over, controlled their lives, yet today we are dominated by Washington D.C. in the same way.

        What was the point? Why did the men fighting the British in the Revolutionary War give their lives away just to return to the very same conditions they were fighting against?

        Would anyone bother to fight that war again if this country returned to the oppressive conditions they experienced in the 18th century? Why would they? They would say, “Why bother dying for something that will be sloughed off by the next generation”.

        If we allow our present conditions to continue we may as well consider our president King and our senate Lords. We will work for the scraps that fall from their table and be happy for it, because to question them will lead to our head dropping into a basket.


        WW, it’s hard to take on a discussion of the nuts and bolts of gov’t whilst in the middle of post elections, rampant political corruption ,Obama admin, Special Counsel, hate Trump movement, and so on …

        All of which are on the federal level and metastasized after the ratification of the 17th amendment.


        Add to that the world order, or disorder brought about by Russia beefing up again in Crimea/Ukraine, China working up socialist movements in South America and Africa. Consider Rio, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and others …

        “I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance, or joining in the confederacy of Kings to war against the principles of liberty.”
        —Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799.

        It may be impossible to return to the mindset of Thomas Jefferson if we continue to believe we must use military force to impose our way of life onto the rest of the world. We’ve allowed the corporation to replace our parent’s family business. We’ve allowed our politicians to consider the wants of the selfish and deranged to dominate our political landscape. We’ve replaced the individual with abstract communities, and every penny we earn belongs to a private corporation.

        One thing is for certain. This country resembles little of what our founding fathers bequeathed to us. Democratics won’t even consider the 19th century part of this country’s history! If no one will believe our founders created a “more perfect union” what is the point in defending it?

        Posted by: Weary Willie at November 12, 2018 11:27 AM
        Comment #434254

        So typical of the far right in America, the government can’t control … as if the issue is control of everyone. Do we really “look east” for the solution to every problem? Only when the conservative narrative dictates. I mean we have to accept this false narrative as facts!


        The country is great…….
        The people are great……
        The government of the people for the country is bad.

        Conservatives would have us believe this is the case and with Trump and the Tea Party have been h**l bent to prove it once again.

        I like the false narrative Weary, keep it up with bits like “The founders resented the fact that a king, months and miles detached from the people he reigned over, controlled their lives, yet today we are dominated by Washington D.C. in the same way.”. With Trump in office we may have the feel of a king I will give you that. But wasn’t it the false conservative narrative that created the king? I know many of us wish he were months and miles away and I guess right now he is. How are you guys with the brush off Trump gave the veterans” I mean if the king can say I don’t want to go out in the rain to honor the veterans then why can’t the military do the same? Five Deferment Don leading the conservative/populist….talk about irony.


        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 11:57 AM
        Comment #434255

        It’s strange how you can take all the ills of our current situation and blame them on one person who happens to be sitting in the oval office. It’s also strange that a few short years ago you also attributed everything good about our situation on one person who happened to be sitting in the oval office. Your idea of history starts a decade ago, it seems.

        If the president is the the only person responsible for the good and bad in our lives, why shouldn’t he be considered King? If you send most of your tax dollars to the federal government and then beg for it back in the form of security, why shouldn’t congress be considered Lords?

        It’s an incredibly narrow mindset to think our Social Security can only be managed and granted to us by the federal government. It completely and totally contradicts what the founders envisioned for this country.

        Posted by: Weary Willie at November 12, 2018 12:17 PM
        Comment #434256

        So speaking of irony, Trump is standing there, having recently declared himself a nationalist, listening to Macron tell us of the evils of nationalism! No wonder the clown stayed in his room instead of honoring the veterans. Wow how come you guys are so quiet on this issue? Perhaps Trump should ask what would Obama do ?


        Weary why do you insist on ” counting the freckles on Benjamin Franklins ass…” when your team has a country to bring down?

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 12:37 PM
        Comment #434257
        WW, it’s hard to take on a discussion of the nuts and bolts of gov’t whilst in the middle of post elections, rampant political corruption ,Obama admin, Special Counsel, hate Trump movement, and so on …


        So Roy is it just you are off your meds or is it cognitive dissonance that causes you to think the Obama administration still exists? Oh… and the rampant political corruption you speak of, you voted for the man what did you expect? Trump told you he bribed most of the repub presidential candidates. Did you think he was going to stop once in office with the nepotism, despotism and corruption?


        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 12:53 PM
        Comment #434258

        It is you who are obsessed with Franklin’s ass, j2t2? I didn’t mention him or his ass. There’s an ass being talked about this conversation. It’s the Democratic party.

        What do you call this?
        https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/929320777668628480/video/1

        Standing next to someone is like walking around the block to cure cancer and wearing a pink ribbon to stop child abuse. It’s fluff and flutter. What president donated his salary to veterans, j2t2?

        Posted by: Weary Willie at November 12, 2018 1:06 PM
        Comment #434259
        It is you who are obsessed with Franklin’s ass, j2t2? I didn’t mention him or his ass.

        Roy mentioned him Weary, hence the quotations.

        What do you call this?

        to little to late as far as honoring the war dead along with the rest of those leaders that managed to make it there.

        Weary what about the embarrassing clown show that is Trump,
        An American Outcast.


        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 3:20 PM
        Comment #434260
        j2t2 wrote: So much for “D.Facts”
        OOOPppss …

        Evidently, j2t2 did not read the article he links to, because it proves j2t2 is wrong (again), and the article proves that illegal immigrants do receive benefits (e.g. welfare, healthcare, Medicaid, cash, food, education, and housing).

        So, Thanks j2t2 !

        Politifact rules it false, despite Politifact’s own admissions below that illegal immigrants can, and do receive many different forms of welfare and benefits:

        Politifact wrote:

        • “…children can be eligible for health insurance regardless of immigration status”.
        • “Some [about 12] states also issue drivers’ licenses to people whe are illegally in the United States.
        • “some states, such as California, allow low-income undocumented children and youth under 10 years old to get medical coverage through their state’s Medicaid program.
        • under law, hospitals can’t turn away someone needing emergency care, based on immigration status.
        • “Individuals living illegally in the United States are ineligible for federal housing assistance. But it’s possible that they live in a household where someone is a lawful permanent resident or U.S. citizen eligible for housing benefits [e.g. anchor baby].”
        • “But children in the country illegally are allowed to go to public school regardless of immigration status.”
        • “However, a small number of jurisdictions allow noncitizens to vote in local elections for school board or city council.”
        • “People who already live in the United States illegally may be able to get some priviliges such as a driver’s license or medical care.”; “Children can go to public school regardless of immigration status.”; “A few jurisdictions allow noncitizens to participate in local elections.”

        Welfare Use for Illegal Immgrants and Native Households in year 2012:

        • Any type of Welfare Use:
        • @@@@@@@@@@@@@ (30% Native U.S. citizens)
        • ################################## (62% Illegal immigrants)
        • Food:
        • @@@@@@@@ (22% Native U.S. citizens)
        • ############################## (57% Illegal Immigrants)
        • Medicaid:
        • @@@@@@@@@ 23% Native U.S. citizens
        • ########################## (51% Illegal Immigrants)
        • Cash welfare:
        • @@@@@@@ (10% Native U.S. citizens)
        • ####(5% Illegal Immigrants)
        • Housing:
        • @@@ (6% Native U.S. citizens)
        • ## (4% Illegal Immigrants)
        Illegal immigration costs U.S. citizens $279 Billion in net losses per year: Source: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/

        70% of babies born at Parkland hospital in Dallas, TX are by illegal immigrants. Once they have an anchor baby, the parent(s) and other family and friends receive welfare intended for the anchor baby. Source: www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

        And, then there is the cost of 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant.
        Source: cis.org/Huennekens/32-Federal-Inmates-Are-Aliens

        IF there are 12 million illegal immigrants (3.66% of U.S. population is 328 Million) in the U.S., and IF illegal immigrants supposedly commit fewer crimes than native U.S. citizens, then why is 32% of everyone in federal prison an illegal immigrant? Of course, when it comes to crime, the crime rates ignore the fact that illegally trespassing the U.S. is a crime. It also ignores that fact that many illegal immigrants have commited crimes by receiving welfare and benefits not intended for illegal immigrants. And none of this even addresses the massive use of fake Social Security numbers. As of JUN-2017, an estimated 2.4 million Social Security numbers are used by illegal immigrants (Source: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/). Interestingly (probably another Democrat law), the IRS is not allowed to communicate with Homeland Security to determine who these people are that are using these Social Security numbers.

        j2t2 is so eager to find evidence to refute truths that j2t2 does not like, that j2t2 mistakenly provides the proof (repeatedly) of the very thing that j2t2 is trying to disprove.

        Oh, what webs j2t2 weaves when j2t2 attempts to deceive.

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 12, 2018 4:08 PM
        Comment #434261

        America first equals ‘clown show’ and makes one an outcast.
        Socialists who are dependent on America, bashing America and its President, equals someone who should be listened to and makes them world leaders.

        Your unjustified hate of your President and fellow Americans has you now hating your own country, J2. Sad.

        Posted by: kctim at November 12, 2018 5:37 PM
        Comment #434262

        Dan Crenshaw/SNL made some snide remarks about a wounded warrior/congressman=elect. After some bad press SNL got the two together for a big ‘apology’ skit.

        I don’t agree. It’s clear the SNL dude is a nerd and any apology from him would be worthless. I think the congresman-elect should just have let it pass and not have given the nerd another audience.

        If Trump dices somebody I don’t want that person to kiss up to Trump and try to make nice. It ain’t vanilla or chocolate, it’s the republic or socialism.

        Some 50 dims needs to be doing 50 to life for the conspiracy they tried to pull off. Some things are serious …

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 12, 2018 5:48 PM
        Comment #434263

        Wow Roy way to dehumanize everyone who disagrees with your extreme views. Trump would be proud of you, as would many other fascist. Are all nerds deemed not worthy of an apology? I mean now that you have drawn the battle lines and prepare to enter into a civil war I just am not seeing how it is a republic you actually want.

        You are scary with your allegiance to Trump. No one can say anything negative about him without a final resolution …right? And only Trump can save the “republic”…right? I mean a republic doesn’t want to silence the minority…right? But you do.
        You sure seem to believe the dems need to be doing time for some made up conspiracy without any proof. In a representative democracy/republic Trump would have brought all these conspirators to trial had he any evidence to do so…right? Yet you don’t want a trial you want the final resolution for 50 or so dems and have then guilty until proven innocent….right?

        Your zero tolerance attitude is reminiscent of many different dictators over the years. It seems the dems winning Congress is our last chance to save our democratic republic from you and Trump.

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 6:37 PM
        Comment #434264

        How many conservatives can see how Roy has changed over the past few years? Can you remember when he actually had several positions that agreed with progressives, well ahead of his time now that many of you guys have adopted populist opinions about corporations and fair trade. But back to the issue Roy is moving farther and farther to the fringe IMHO.

        He no longer has time for “counting the freckles on Benjamin Franklins ass…” or much of anything that doesn’t involve protecting der Fuhrer from his follies.
        With all the right wing violence we see in the world today perhaps Roy it is time to get your self evaluated by a health care professional.

        The way you combine China and it’s authoritarian capitalist government with Africa to get to socialism, which I guess is the boogeyman, is amazing. To think you are using Socialism instead of the European style democratic socialism to describe the leanings of some dems in Congress is just wrong. I think you are scaring yourself, working others as well as yourself into a frenzy to protect his Holiness. Anyway at the least lock up the guns before you get to crazy my friend.


        Kctim, No nothing was said about America first why put up a strawman?


        D. what the link to fact checks provides us with is what you left out. Your claims are exaggerated and the truth is far different from the bleak picture you try to tell us is the truth. I doubt you FBOP numbers are real either unless you are counting ICE facilities as well. I am looking for reliable sites not those white nationalist sites you claim are “factual”.

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 12, 2018 7:09 PM
        Comment #434265

        j2, we’ve been waiting on justice for some two years. There is a brief window where Trump can set the wheels of justice in motion before the dims start blocking or slowing actions.

        Trump needs to get the evidence before the public NOW>

        j2, none of the dozen or so repubs could have beat Trump. He is head and shoulders above any of them.

        Note that Jeb Bush, a Trump hater, hired Brenda Snipes,a dim, who has been in trouble since gaining office. And, what about this guy Rick Scott who left her in her position (gotta be politically correct ya know) after she became problematic.

        Trump, a billionaire? doesn’t need to be politically correct. He doesn’t have a problem telling France to pay up. He want have a problem smoking NK’s nukes if they should choose to put one up. You can bet some bunker busters are at the ready as we poke.

        j2, your comments are, I dunno, figments of your imagination ?? I didn’t ‘dehumanize’ anybody. I referrred to a young man who made fun of a wounded warrior as a nerd. And, the usual ‘facist’, or some other —-ist jab.

        Not looking to silence anyone, j2. How would I do that???? Information, THUTHFUL information works to keep us free. One would think d.a.n’s information would cut to the bone but some here on the blog seem to just roll it off as if the truth is of little interest.

        This next election is going to make the 2016 election look like a birthday party, IMO.

        Lock her up ! ! !

        j2, knowing that crooked hillary compromised thousands of classified messages, do you think she has the balls to run again? On second thought - - - that might could be her best ‘get out of jail’ card to play = = =

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 12, 2018 7:33 PM
        Comment #434266
        phx8 wrote: if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences.
        HHMMmm… We have still not seen a tiny shred of evidence from phx8 and j2t2 to back up the hateful speech and assertions that proves Tucker Carlson spouts racism, or white nationalism.

        When such cheaters get caught in lies, they fall silent, and ignore such challenges.
        It’s not easy for the morally bankrupt to refute the truth and facts they don’t want to see.

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 12, 2018 8:02 PM
        Comment #434267
        j2t2 wrote: D. what the link to fact checks provides us with is what you left out.
        I did not leave out anything.

        You are a low-life coward that can’t face the reality

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 12, 2018 8:15 PM
        Comment #434268

        Your way right, j2, in that my political stance has changed over the last couple of years. When I first came to WB I was laid back and talking up the benefits of a 3rd party w/rules.

        I would never debate/discuss social issues, just stuck with the purely political issues.

        And then, and then, along came the Obama admin, win at at cost and in any way, legal or otherwise…

        MSM and dims joined at their ass. DOJ refusing to take Hillary to court. Conspiracy to go after Trump. And, on and on …

        The dim party should be disbanded. People should be punished, severely.

        As we speak Hil’s lawyer in Fl trying to steal the election.

        I’d like to discuss 3rd parties, article V - II and WW’s ideas re our republic.

        MSNBC knocking repubs for attacking Snipes because she is an older black woman …

        But, with so many very serious political issues currently in the news I can’t get interested in debating the nuts and bolts of gov’t. I’m too busy trying to get Hillary locked up and so on …

        Going to be a helluva ride over the next two years, IMO…

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 12, 2018 8:30 PM
        Comment #434269

        Not being funny, j2, but, can you give me your thoughts as to why Hillary should not be charged with compromising thousands of classified messages?

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 12, 2018 8:35 PM
        Comment #434270

        j2t2 wrote: Wow Roy way to dehumanize everyone who disagrees with your extreme views. Trump would be proud of you, as would many other fascist. Are all nerds deemed not worthy of an apology? I mean now that you have drawn the battle lines and prepare to enter into a civil war I just am not seeing how it is a republic you actually want.
        More Fascist name-calling nonsense. That’s all low-life scum like j2t2 have…call everyone Fascists, that disagrees with them.

        jt2t wrote: You [Roy] are scary with your allegiance to Trump.
        What is really scary is scummy, low-lifes like j2t2.

        Is j2t2 for real? It is hard to believe that anyone can be as so low as to make the following comments….statements that j2t2 says j2t2 is very proud of:

        • [01] j2t2 wrote: I am proud of each and every one of my comments you have listed here. In fact I am especially proud of the donkey show comment [see #09 below] you had so much trouble with.
        • [02] j2t2 wrote: Weary, I haven’t said you [Weary Willie] are a Nazi.
        • [03] j2t2 wrote: I am not calling anyone a Nazi.
        • [04] j2t2 wrote: you complain about the fascist tag you guys on the right have earned.
        • [05] j2t2 wrote: In fact I have said many times here on WB [that] you conservatives here on WB [WatchBlog] remind me of the people of Germany in the late 20’s and early 30’s.
        • [06] j2t2 wrote: Welcome to Trumps America, Zeig Heil !
        • [07] j2t2 wrote: The people of Germany, a lot of good people fell for this type of blaming those different from us and look where it lead, they were Zeig Heiling to a dictator a few years later.
        • [08] j2t2 wrote: It may not be fascism, it may be oligarchy that is the problem but never the less you guys are helping to turn us into something we don’t want to be.
        • [09] j2t2 wrote (comparing conservatives on Watch Blog to “Beastialists” or those that like to watch Beastiality): I didn’t imply anything of the sort. This is what I said “What’s the difference between the Gringo [a disparaging and/or racist term] tourist at the “Tijuana donkey show” and the conservatives on WB [Watchblog] that believe the repubs on the intelligence committee actually have something of substance to show the American people?”
        • [10] j2t2 wrote (comparing Trump supporters to Nazis): Oh look a Trump rally [see video of Nazis supporters in 1939] . God , the flag, nationalism, returning America to the people who founded it, and a liberal protestor to beat on.
        • [11] j2t2 wrote: How sad D. that you would think that calling names is your best argument…
        • [12] j2t2 wrote: IMHO you guys are falsely setting liberals and dems up for persecution in the coming years.
        • [13] j2t2 wrote: I look at you guys [Republicans and conservatives on WatchBlog] and see the good people, and you are good people, that were mislead by the fascist [Hitler] of the last century.
        • [14] j2t2 wrote (blames Russia for 2016 election): Who gives a f**k Obama is gone, Clinton is gone. Trump is here and it is in part due to Russian interference in the election.
        • [15] j2t2 wrote: Neither am I a “build a wall on one border to keep the brown guys out” type.
        • [16] j2t2 wrote: You have turned into a far right troll who spends his time instigating others into anger.
        • [17] j2t2 wrote: Why would the same people who insulted and lied about Obama for 8 years think they deserve respect now that Trump is president?
        • [18] j2t2 wrote (blaming Republicans and conservatives): Just doesn’t compare to [pipe]bomb attacks on political opponents does it?
        • [19] j2t2 wrote: Yet here we are with conservatives hanging their hats on fearmongering and hatred as a means to win elections.
        • [20] j2t2 wrote (again, comparing conservatives on Watch Blog to Beastialists or those that like to watch Beastiality): So D., did anybody have an answer to the question? “What’s the difference between the Gringo [a disparaging and/or racist term] tourist at the “Tijuana donkey show” and the conservatives on WB [Watchblog] that believe the repubs on the intelligence committee actually have something of substance to show the American people?”.
        • [21] j2t2 wrote: Now you act surprised and try to deflect the blame! Go f**k yourselves. Point the finger at yourselves for buying into the stupid propaganda you have bought into.
        • [22] j2t2 wrote: I mean I don’t call anyone that I disagree with names, just those that support the far right or are politically on the far right.
        • [23] j2t2 wrote: As far as the synagogue massacre conservatives have only the conservative media and their lies to blame for dehumanizing Jews once again. Look at the code word you guys have used for attacking Jews for the past few years.
        • [24] j2t2 wrote: In fact right now I’m rather proud that you have spent the time going through the archives hunting for my words of wisdom.
        What is the point in debating with a low-life that writes things like the above?

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 12, 2018 8:52 PM
        Comment #434286

        J2,

        “You are scary with your allegiance to Trump. No one can say anything negative about him without a final resolution …right?”

        Sure beats being called a racist for saying anything negative about Obama, or simply disagreeing with him.

        “How many conservatives can see how Roy has changed over the past few years?”

        Seems to me that Roy has always been a ‘populist’ on here. The only thing that has changed is that he now has a ‘populist’ President and you now falsely believe his same positions are fascist.

        “Can you remember when he actually had several positions that agreed with progressives”

        I guarantee that he still does, you guys are just too busy fantasizing about Russia, shouting ‘nazis’ at everybody who dares disagree with you, and hating Trump because he tells you to stick your identity politics up your a$$.

        “To think you are using Socialism instead of the European style democratic socialism to describe the leanings of some dems in Congress is just wrong.”

        One thing makes so-called European style democratic socialism possible, and that is the U.S. Without our protection, it would require an authoritarian type government just like all other socialist, fascist and communist countries.
        Reading the DSA website, which many of those dems in Congress support, the goal IS socialism, J2. The DSA even says that socialism is not possible overnight in America, that they have to work within the system to change it.

        “No nothing was said about America first why put up a strawman?”

        If you are going to use biased opinions from a leftist rag like HuffPo, you really need to start reading more than just the headline.
        You claimed Trump is “An American Outcast” and then posted a link claiming Trump is ‘largely alone’ because of his ‘America first’ platform. Those European leaders favor globalism, not U.S. sovereignty.

        From the link: ‘Trump, who ran on an “America First” platform, has jarred European allies with his actions.’

        Those European leaders bashed your country and your President. Your personal hatred of your President, due simply to his positions on our form of government and the PC/social justice nonsense, has you siding with those European leaders over your own country.

        Posted by: kctim at November 13, 2018 9:23 AM
        Comment #434287
        J2, we’ve been waiting on justice for some two years. There is a brief window where Trump can set the wheels of justice in motion before the dims start blocking or slowing actions.

        Yet not a word from Trump on who why and when! I am not surprised but then I didn’t believe Trump when he said he would drain the swamp. You make the claim of 50 dems and you don’t have anything to substantiate this claim

        Come on Roy think rationally. Why did Trump wait for 2 years to get these 50 dems you claim are some deep state conspiracy against Trump? Do you really think you are just going to march into DC and start asking for confessions or worse just start shooting anyone without a MAGA hat?

        Trump needs to get the evidence before the public NOW

        And if he doesn’t Roy…what then? Will you then admit you have been the victim of a fraudster? When do you cut bait on Trump. When do you say it was all a part of the fear and hatred scheme to get you to vote for Trump? So far the only smoke we have seen is from the Corsis’ of the world who have burned their credibility in desperate attempts to frame the Clintons. My bet is the Trump administration does absolutely zero because they have nothing but the lies of Trump himself to bring to a court of law.

        Note that Jeb Bush, a Trump hater, hired Brenda Snipes,a dim, who has been in trouble since gaining office. And, what about this guy Rick Scott who left her in her position (gotta be politically correct ya know) after she became problematic.

        So let me get this straight Roy, this Snipes is doing her job, counting all the votes and Qanon types are upset about it? So if Trump ally Scott didn’t fire her after the last several elections then why should we believe she has done anything wrong?

        Not looking to silence anyone, j2. How would I do that????

        How? I would suggest you have a plan and are hard at work on it. After all you claim “I’m too busy trying to get Hillary locked up and so on …” This after Hillary being subjected to many witch hunts that have all cleared her of wrong doing.

        Roy look at the sinister tone of your comment. You have these 50 or so dems strung up in the court of conspiracy theory without anything but wild unproven theories to support Trump’s lies. You don’t want Trump, after dicing someone who speaks out, to accept an apology. As if Trump alone has the right to insult and belittle his subjects.

        Information, THUTHFUL information works to keep us free. One would think d.a.n’s information would cut to the bone but some here on the blog seem to just roll it off as if the truth is of little interest.

        I’m not sure conservatives here on WB would recognize truthful information if it bit them on the a** Roy. I say this because you guys think the misinformation dump we are bombarded with from D. is anything but hyperbole and exaggeration combined with far right bias and propaganda.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/07/prominent-white-nationalist-tweets-picture-of-his-white-house-visit

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 13, 2018 9:42 AM
        Comment #434288
        Not being funny, j2, but, can you give me your thoughts as to why Hillary should not be charged with compromising thousands of classified messages?

        Sure can Roy. Because we have been there when it was relevant. It is as easy as that, We have seen so many lies from the conservatives on the Clintons over the years and zero nada none of them have panned out. You guys have cried wolf so many times that you have absolutely zero credibility.

        The wishful thinking of many Trump apologist should be considered for what it is worth. Trump told you he was going to lock her up during the campaign. Two years later and nothing from Trump. You were played by Trump for your vote. He lied and he gained your vote.

        You still idolize Trump due to your wishful thinking. Because you have been told by conservative propaganda for so long that the Clintons are evil you believe it to be true and you want blood. The Clintons have been subjected to more investigations than there are idiots who believe the propaganda and they have been cleared time and time again.

        Meanwhile Trump has served up a dish of nepotism and corruption and you still point the finger to the previous 8 years as if it matters now. Focus on the now Roy. Focus on the change you can help affect. Demand Trump clean up his swamp now.


        Posted by: j2t2 at November 13, 2018 10:04 AM
        Comment #434289

        Yet, another low-life tactic from j2t2, and the article that j2t2 links to (www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/07/prominent-white-nationalist-tweets-picture-of-his-white-house-visit), with the title “Prominent white nationalist tweets picture of his White House visit”.

        However, the white nationalist (Patrick Casey) was only one of more than 25,000 people who come to the White House Fall Garden Tour, which is open to the public.

        But where was j2t2’s outrage when Obama met with Louis Farrakhan at the Congressional Black Caucus, and Obama even had a chummy photo taken with Louis Farrakhan (a well known anti-Semite, who also recently referred to Jews as termites)?

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 13, 2018 11:16 AM
        Comment #434290

        “Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism. By putting our own interests first, with no regard for others, we erase the very thing that a nation holds dearest, and the thing that keeps it alive: its moral values.”
        French President Macron, standing directly in front of Donald Trump

        Meanwhile, we are getting a better handle on just how big that blue wave turned out to be:

        House: Democrats + 33
        I predicted a 45 seat pick-up. Looks like it will be 39 or 40. House Democrats defeated the GOP by 7% (as of this date), the largest margin since Watergate, and yes, even higher than 2010.

        Senate: GOP +1, or no change.
        I predicted no change. That was the most favorable map for a party in a century.

        Governors: Democrats +7
        I predicted big gains down ticket, and that is what happened.

        State Legislatures:
        Democrats now control all major branches of government in 6 states. The GOP picked up 1.

        Initiatives: 4 states voted for non-partisan congressional districts. This is a disaster for the GOP. It means @8 seats that used to be a given for Republicans will probably go the Democrats.

        Meanwhile, indictments from Mueller are expected shortly. I will guess this Friday, based on past history. Some people think it will be today. Tough week for crooks and traitors. Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi have said they expect to be indicted. Both were involved in funneling material stolen from the Democrats by the Russians, to Wikileaks. Roger Stone appears to be the chief target, since he has not even been interviewed by the Mueller team.


        Posted by: phx8 at November 13, 2018 11:16 AM
        Comment #434291

        No, it was more like a tiny blue ripple, or a blue tinkle.

        Also, this 2018 mid-term made history in that this election was only the 3rd mid-term election in over 103 years in which the IN-PARTY won seats in the Senate (in a mid-term).

        • The Senate is currently: 51(+1) Republican(+1VP vote); 47(-1)Democrats + Indep.; 2 undecided (FL,AZ likely Republican)
        • The House is currently: 198(-32) Republican, 227(+32) Democrat, 10 undecided thus far;
        • Governorships: 25(-6)Republicans, 23(+7)Democrats, 2 undecided (FL, GA likely Republican);

        For the 435 in the House, a change of 32 seats is only a 7.36% (x 2) change of seats in the House.
        For the 535 in Congress, a change of +31 seats (+32(House), -1(Senate)) for Democrats is only a 5.98% (x 2) change of seats in Congress.
        The seats flipped in the House is near the average of 32 seats (since year 1855).
        The largest loss ever, since 1855 was a loss of 116 seats (by Democrats) in 1895 (54th Congress).

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 13, 2018 11:39 AM
        Comment #434292
        Yet, another low-life tactic from j2t2,

        Oh boy another foolish conspiracy theory from D..

        D. First of all one has to believe Sanders, who is a know liar and an enabler for Trump, which is a stretch. But hey what is important is the conservatives statement from the article.

        From the link above-
        “Casey is not a stealth figure in the white nationalist movement. In October he told NBC News that he was on a mission to “take over the GOP as much as possible”. He has also attended the Conservative Political Action conference, a mainstream gathering of conservative activists that takes place in Washington.”

        So did you contribute to the Guardian by any chance D.? It is important to keep those who cover the “deep state” in DC in business as they fight to expose corruption and despotism, don’t you think?

        But hey D. when are you going to update my words of wisdom list? We are stuck at 24 for some time.

        I have to admit I am surprised you didn’t want to refute the “Meanwhile Trump has served up a dish of nepotism and corruption and you still point the finger to the previous 8 years as if it matters now. Focus on the now Roy. Focus on the change you can help affect. Demand Trump clean up his swamp now” comment. It seems you chose instead to deflect to the previous 8 years! Typical of you but I can understand the challenge you face defending Trump and his lies.

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 13, 2018 11:46 AM
        Comment #434293

        D. claims “The Senate is currently: 51(+1) Republican(+1VP vote); 47(-1)Democrats + Indep.; 2 undecided (FL,AZ likely Republican)”

        Oh please D. another half truth from you, I should be surprised but I’m not.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/us/kyrsten-sinema-arizona-senator.html

        The Mississippi senate race went to a run off and is still undecided. Arizona was decided yesterday.

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 13, 2018 11:51 AM
        Comment #434294

        D. what you forget or fail to mention is the uphill battle the dems faced.
        We all know the Georgia repub was secretary of state and he spent considerable effort in suppressing the vote. This is further proved in Florida by the lying orange idiot and Rick Scott as they demand the counties stop counting votes! Not to mention the false accusations from both of them while trying to force those responsible for voting accuracy. Man you really have to be lame to buy into their lies…right?

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 13, 2018 12:03 PM
        Comment #434295

        AZ is a border state. Trump declared AZ faced an invasion of criminals, rapists, MS-13, and hordes of horrible poor people wanting free stuff.

        AZ elected a Democrat to the Senate.

        To be fair, the GOP candidate, McSally, voted to repeal Obamacare more than 50 times while in the House, while Republicans failed to provide a viable alternative. That cost her. Spiting Obama at the expense of the well being of the country is not a good political strategy.

        Hey, d.a.n., the Democrats took the House in the biggest wave in four decades, but if you divide the number of Congressman by the population of the United States, the number of incoming Democrats equals less than 1 in 10 million Americans! No need to stop there! You can make it look even smaller by dividing by the total population of the planet! But there is no way to minimize the taking of the House, or what happened down ticket.

        Nothing to say about those 7 Democratic governorships, eh? No comment on those initiatives ending GOP gerrymandering in several states? Not a word on Democrats taking total control of government in 6 states?

        Posted by: phx8 at November 13, 2018 3:29 PM
        Comment #434296

        By the way, just read “Fear” by Woodward. Just ok. Very readable. Good source for anyone who doesn’t really follow what is happening, because “Fear” brings it all together. It is obvious who Woodward interviewed: Kelly, Bannon, Tillerson, Porter, Cohn, and most of the top echelon. Almost all of them are gone now, which is pretty incredible, seeing as how the book only covers the first 1 1/2 years of the presidency.

        Woodward is too much of a toady for my tastes, but two themes come up again and again: 1) the White House is in chaos and Trump does not know what he is doing, and 2) Trump lies all the time.

        Not exactly revelations.

        Posted by: phx8 at November 13, 2018 3:35 PM
        Comment #434298

        Wow…I am gone for a day and war breaks out on WB.

        I can not recall such “sore” winners in my lifetime. Our Liberal Pals are rabidly angry when they lose and also when they win. There just is no pleasing these psychologically impaired people.

        The Dems have been exceptional in voting as a body in the House and not as individuals. I wonder if their unity can withstand a serious challenge to Pelosi being chosen as Speaker? Many in this bunch of newly elected House Democrats are so far Left of Center that they call Karl Marx a conservative.

        I fully expect a rift in the House Party Unity when the Democrat leaders try to govern their new unruly members. It should be fun to watch.

        Posted by: Royal Flush at November 13, 2018 4:54 PM
        Comment #434300
        phx8 demonstrates his ignorance again: Hey, d.a.n., the Democrats took the House in the biggest wave in four decades,…
        Wrong again.

        Democrats lost 35 seats in 97th Congress (1981-to-1983); 35 years ago, 35 is greater than 32 seats flipped so far in 2018.
        Democrats lost 54 seats in 104th Congress (1995-to-1997); 21 years ago, 54 is greater than 32 seats flipped so far in 2018.
        Democrats lost 63 seats in 112th Congress (2011-to-2013); 5 years ago, 64 is greater than 32 seats flipped so far in 2018.

        phx8 demonstrates again that math is not phx8’s strong suit: Hey, d.a.n., the Democrats took the House in the biggest wave in four decades, but if you divide the number of Congressman [435 in the House] by the population [328 Million] of the United States, the number of incoming Democrats equals less than 1 in 10 million Americans!
        Wrong again.

        435 in 328 million is not less than 1 in 10 million.
        435 in 328 Million is 13.26 times greater than 1 in 10 million (e.g. 0.000001326 is 13.26 times greater than 0.0000001).

        phx8 wrote: if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences.
        phx8 still has not provided any evidence of (exactly) what Tucker Carlson ever said that was racist?

        And what does phx8 spread?

        phx8 and j2t2 call everyone that disagrees with them:

          Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts !, Beastialists !, White Nationalists !
        That’s all phx8 and j2t2 have. Lies and calling everyone that disagrees with them:
          Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts !, Beastialists !, White Nationalists !
        phx8 insists on calling the mid-term a blue wave [however, it is actually more like a blue tinkle], but conveniently ignores this mid-term election was only the 3rd mid-term election in over 103 years in which the IN-PARTY won seats in the Senate. Boohoo! : (

        On the bright side, at least phx8, j2t2 and similar ilk did not feel the need to go out and protest, burn, destroy, commit violence, and cry like babies about losing like they did after the 08-NOV-2016 election.

        Notice, Republicans and conservatives didn’t riot, burn, and commit violence after the 06-NOV-2018 election.

        As often as j2t2 and phx8 are repeatedly proven wrong and hypocritical, you’d think it would humble them some, eh?
        OK, j2t2, you can now respond with your usual response:

          Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts !, Beastialists !, White Nationalists !

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 13, 2018 5:37 PM
        Comment #434301

        Too bad McSally lost to Sinema.
        Martha McSally is 10 times the woman Sinema will ever be.
        Fortunately, when Republicans lose, they don’t do like Democrats and similar ilk on the left, and go out and protest, burn, destroy, commit violence, and cry like babies about losing like they did after the 08-NOV-2016 election.

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 13, 2018 5:50 PM
        Comment #434303

        Who could have predicted that in the year 2018 many citizens would vote for a human characteristic rather than the credentials or policies of the candidate?

        How many millions of citizens voted according to gender preference?

        How many millions of citizens voted according to skin color or racial preference?

        How many millions of citizens voted according the se*ual proclivity of the candidate.

        How many millions of citizens voted according to their status or wealth perceptions?

        We now face elections with Republicans vying for votes against an unholy cabal of Democrats aligned with a vast majority of the media. The media no longer performs its vital and Constitutional function of informing the public. The media has itself become a political party which has swallowed the Democrat Party. The media instructs, abets, and funds the party; and the party marches to the media tune.

        The media now calls all the shots for the party. It promotes malfeasance, obscures good governance, and generates hatred or love; depending upon what is required to secure votes.

        How do Republicans, Independents, and Conservatives challenge and win against this hellish political force?

        Posted by: Royal Flush at November 13, 2018 6:56 PM
        Comment #434305

        J2, from the USA Today article you referenced:

        July 31, 2016: Clinton appears on Fox News Sunday where she is asked about her claim that she never sent or received classified information. Clinton responded by saying Comey “said my answers were truthful, and what I’ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the emails.”

        But that wasn’t true. Comey told Congress during the hearing “There was classified material emailed.”

        Sep. 7, 2016: Comey wrote a memo to his employees defending the decision not to recommend charges.

        “Those suggesting that we are ‘political’ or part of some ‘fix’ either don’t know us, or they are full of baloney (and maybe some of both),” the director wrote.

        J2, try and give me YOUR best answer to this following question:

        Do you believe that a U.S. citizen who compromises Top Secret foreign intel classified information should be subject to trial and prosecuted if found guilty?

        A ‘yes’ or ‘no’ will be sufficient.

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 13, 2018 7:33 PM
        Comment #434306

        A very serious threat to the Republic, RF. Amazing that our ‘national’ order has been ordered by the two party system of gov’t from the beginning. Yet, not a word in the Constitution about ‘republicans’ or ‘democrats’ and so on …

        The system worked pretty well what with the ‘separation of powers’, party’s that reflected the values/desires of the majority, and a ‘free press’ that acted somewhat as a non-partisan entity.

        Now, we have a situation whereby the media is divided as to right and left. Neither party can corner a defining majority of voters, split down the middle. One party is off the rails in that winning power, legally or otherwise, is the name of their game. This same party is so ideologically left, divided into tribes, and effuses propaganda 24/7, that it has lost credibility with half the population as a political party.

        Through any means possible this party wants to implement ever burdening social programs. Through immigration and, more correctly, illegal immigration they have grown their voter rolls to a point where they can control elections going forward. Those of us supporting the opposing party are left in a quandary as to how to keep the system of gov’t on track going forward. Like, 9 lawsuits fighting election results in Florida. Another 100k immigrants to Florida and lawsuits won’t do it anymore.

        The danger is that when one party becomes dominant to win every election the opposing party becomes weak and ineffective. The stronger party then has no opposition and will, in short order, take it over a cliff. Like, timid socialism becomes rampant, hardcore socialism, and so on … Self destruction is assured.

        Certainly, the best way to save the country is to not allow one party domination to take hold. And, that is the point we are at going toward the 2020 elections. There are somewhere between 12 and 22M immigrants in this country looking to become citizens. The dim party, some globalists and Trump haters from the GOP, the MSM and others are looking for any path to bring citizenship to these folks. If they are successful, even in part, it is likely the GOP will not be able to win at the ballot box going forward.

        So, it’s clear to me that immigration has to be brought under control. I’ve always thought is wrong that a country’s population growth would be primarily through immigration as opposed to citizen reproduction. Let’s use the citizen reproduction rate as a guideline to how many immigrants may be accepted yearly. As it stands its open borders, sky is the limit for big business that wants ‘workers’ (cheap labor) and for the dim party that wants to grow its members/voters so as to dominate the political realm.

        President Trump has already nixed some programs and put others into law in attempting to get some modicum of control over immigration. IMO, it really comes down to what the President and a few ‘tea party’ GOP’ers can accomplish over the next two, hopefully six, years toward bringing rampant immigration under control.

        He, and some red states can work to purge voter rolls of ineligible voters. He can do whatever is necessary, as chief executive, to prevent some or all of the 22M immigrants from gaining citizenship.

        New citizens might be required to complete certain civics and history studies. Voter registration could be withheld for some time so that excessive large numbers of new voters aren’t brought into the system too quickly.

        He can give illegal immigrants access to worker permits with no rights of citizenship.
        He can return the majority of those in the current caravans from crossing into the US or gaining asylum status.

        He can take a hard line with South American countries who allow/support so called asylum seekers from going beyond the first country they enter.

        Red states can develop ID systems and systematically search out illegals for deportation.

        He definitely needs to build the wall. Doesn’t matter where or how he gets the funds, build a wall.

        Worker ID should be invoked.

        If the President can’t get things under control I fear this country will go down the tubes pdq…

        Should be said that if President Trump is somehow dethroned his base should look to a close family member we can elect to carry on his ‘populist’ agenda. I believe he can clean things up if he wins a second term.

        His opponents recognize that also and will put ten times more effort into taking him down. That’s fer shure …

        Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 13, 2018 9:38 PM
        Comment #434331

        The Main Stream Media is part of the corpocracy?

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 8:50 AM
        Comment #434332

        “How do Republicans, Independents, and Conservatives challenge and win against this hellish political force?”

        They will do what they have done for the last 50+ years, Royal: move to the left.
        Today’s Republicans are yesterdays democrats.
        Tomorrows Republicans are today’s liberals.

        The next Republican President will be more moderate than Trump and will be treated even worse by the left and its media.

        Posted by: kctim at November 14, 2018 9:23 AM
        Comment #434334
        kctim wrote:
        • Today’s Republicans are yesterdays democrats.
        • Tomorrows Republicans are today’s liberals.

        It’s a disease (of type #2); see below:

        • Right Extreme Type #1: This extreme wants regressive taxation, unfettered capitalism, loves monopolies, wants little (if any) government regulations, and freedom to explore and wallow in almost every manifestation of unchecked greed;
        • Left Extreme Type #2: This extreme wants a nanny-state with citizens increasingly dependent on the government; with massive cradle-to-grave government programs (which are usually severely mismanaged) that nurture a sense of entitlement and dependency on government; loves to suffocate the economy with over-regulation; tries to disguise envy and jealousy as demands for equality (e.g. affirmative action); wants open-borders to win votes; wants to let illegal immigrants vote (i.e. Democrat, of course); wants to grow government ever larger (despite the already current nightmare proportions); rewards failure and laziness; and perpetuates the myth that we can somehow all live at the expense of everyone else; protests, riots, burns, destroys, and commit violence when they lose elections; and calls everyone that disagrees with them: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !
        Extreme #1 can be managed with regulations, enforcement, and consequences.

        Extreme #2 is hopelessly dysfunctional, does not “get it”, and probably never will.

        Unfortunately, conservatives were stupidly slow to recognize that Democrats and others on the left are changing the demographics (via massive illegal immigration and open borders), which is essentially bringing the end the Republican party ever closer.

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 10:43 AM
        Comment #434335

        This is interesting: Google: “Do most U.S. citizens want open borders?

        And, here is another interesting article:“9 Reasons to Open Borders and Free the World”

        The U.S. may be near a tipping point, and it primarily the fault of BOTH political parties, because BOTH liked cheap-labor, and Democrats have cleverly (and despicably) pandered to illegal immigrants for votes (i.e. more representation and re-apportionment in the House, via more representatives (and electors) based on population, based on a Decenial Census that does not verify citizenship).

        U.S. citizens opposed to open borders, and the negative impact of massive illegal immigration, had better pull their heads out, and get serious about the following:

        • [1] Secure and continuously monitor the borders; the cost to do so will be far less than the $279 Billion in annual net losses due to illegal immigration (source: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/ );
        • [2] Pass laws to require eVerify (and/or similar services) to verify eligibility for employment in the U.S., and harshly prosecute greedy illegal employers with harsh fines that double, triple, or quadruple for subsequent violations, with jail-time for the administrators and/or owners of companies who are repeat offenders, an despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for profits;
        • [3] Arrest and deport ALL criminal illegal immigrants that have committed felonies; some criminal illegal immigrants are too dangerous to release since they could return; many illegal immigrants will self-deport when all of the magnets that attract illegal immigrants to the U.S. are eliminated;
        • [4] Protect U.S. citizens’ benefits and privileges, and deny those benefits and privileges to all illegal immigrants (i.e. welfare; food stamps; free healthcare; Medicaid; free housing; free education; jobs; driver licenses; voting; voter registration; etc.);
        • [5] Also, amend 14th to remove birthright citizenship; Also, pass a law that makes the first illegal trespass of the U.S. border a felony (not merely a misdemeanor); 2nd and subsequent illegal border trespasses are already a felony; also pass a law to end “catch and release”, and incarcerate illegal immigrants (who have already violated U.S. law(s)) until their disposition is decided by the court(s); also ensure that there are sufficient resources to house and maintain illegal immigrants until their dispostion is decided by the court(s);
        • [6] ONLY after the above are implemented, consider a pathway to citizenship (not amnesty) for illegal immigrants who can prove that they were brought to the United States by a parent when very young (when less than age X1-to-X2), have been living in the U.S. for Y1-to-Y2 years, have attended U.S. schools for Z1-to-Z2 years), have no parents or gaurdians that support them, can pass a basic English test, and have little or no connection to the nation in which they were born (i.e. do not speak the prominent language of the nation in which they were born). That privilege does not extend to any other members or acquaintances of their family. This will be an expensive and painful process, and it won’t be perfect, but it will only get much worse the longer we wait to do it. The amnesty of 1989 quadrupled the number of illegal immigrants within the U.S.A.;
        • [7] Then, after [3] is mostly complete, deport ALL illegal immigrants that commit misdemeanor crimes (i.e. assault; using fake ID; driving without a driver license, which they should not have anyway, and is therefore probably a fake license; speeding; reckless driving; disorderly conduct; vandalism; etc.);
        • [8] Carefully scrutinize all requests for asylum, and enforce the laws required to obtain asylum in the U.S.;
        IF Republicans don’t care about any of that, then perhaps they care about the longevity of THEIR own party, because it is being replaced, slowly but surely, by people that do not respect any of the U.S. immigration laws, nor many other U.S. laws.
        And don’t believe the lies about illegal immigrants committing less crime than U.S. citizens, because much of the data available does not prove that, and it also does not explain how 32% of everyone in federal prison is an illegal immigrant. Also, those are all crimes that should have never happened.

        Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 11:09 AM
        Comment #434338
        I can not recall such “sore” winners in my lifetime.

        What on earth are you talking about Royal? If you are referring to those of us here on WB I would disagree. After having surgery yesterday I am sore but that is physical not emotional or mental. So be specific if you would as that would allow for a specific response.

        Our Liberal Pals are rabidly angry when they lose and also when they win. There just is no pleasing these psychologically impaired people.


        Speaking for myself there are times when I am angry here on WB. Bit that has nothing to do with the election. It is ..well…it is due to the hatred and fear from conservatives here on WB. Having to constantly respond to the various parts of the big lie wears on a person. The myths and misinformation not to mention the half truths and outright lies day after day wears on a body.

        The Dems have been exceptional in voting as a body in the House and not as individuals.

        Not to mention the independents and unaffiliated voters who saw the danger in one party control with a demagogue as president.

        I wonder if their unity can withstand a serious challenge to Pelosi being chosen as Speaker?


        Doubt it, unless of course ….Trump? With his ability to divide and anger most Americans he could be unite the Dem’s in Congress.

        Many in this bunch of newly elected House Democrats are so far Left of Center that they call Karl Marx a conservative.

        Funny Royal, good one liner. But is it true? Once again I would ask you to be specific, if of course you have a valid point.

        I fully expect a rift in the House Party Unity when the Democrat leaders try to govern their new unruly members. It should be fun to watch.

        Me too. Our elected representatives should be representing their districts not the highest bidder or march in lockstep to the tune of Trump as so many two faced repubs in Congress now seem to do. As an example Ted Cruz. What an embarrassing turn around after Trumps vicious lies about his family and the disgusting insults about his wives. While this boot licker may be acceptable in Texas, to the rest of us he is an example of the German people of the 30’s.

        Posted by: j2t2 at November 14, 2018 1:57 PM
        Comment #434339

        D. misleads us with erroneous “D.facts” like “…. and Democrats have cleverly (and despicably) pandered to illegal immigrants for votes”.

        D. some real facts not D. “facts” from your google search.

        All states and illegals voting


        Posted by: j2t2 at November 14, 2018 2:14 PM
        Comment #434340

        Evidently, j2t2 believes illegal immigrants should have the right to vote. Is that right, j2t2?

        IF not, then why does j2t2 post to an article about the history of illegal immigrants voting in the U.S.A.?

        I cannot read the link to a NY Times article, and have no desire to pay to read fake news at the NY Times.

        And, do you (j2t2) also believe the U.S.A. should have open borders?
        And, do you (j2t2) also believe illegal immigrants should be able to vote?
        And, do you (j2t2) also believe illegal immigrants should have drivers’ licenses?
        And, do you (j2t2) also believe in sanctuary cities and states?
        And, do you (j2t2) also believe illegal immigrants should receive amnesty, citizenship, welfare, food stamps, free housing, free education, free healthcare, voting in U.S. elections, drivers’ licenses?

        Based on everything j2t2 writes here, why would anyone think j2t2 would answer “NO” to any of the questions abovce?

        j2t2 does not need to answer those questions,, because, based on j2t2’s writings, it is safe to assume that j2t2’s answer is YES to all of the above.

        j2t2 wrote: D. misleads us with erroneous “D.facts”…
        There is nothing misleading, except j2t2’s usual, out-right lies about illegal immigrants (a)not voting, and (b)not collecting welfare. They do.

        Illegal immigrants are voting in U.S. elections, and illegal immigrants are receiving welfare, and there is ample evidence of it.

        So, now, it appears that j2t2 is denying that Democrats have been despicably pandering to illegal immigrants for 30+ years (with promises of another amnesty, citizenship, welfare, food stamps, free housing, free education, free healthcare, voting in U.S. elections, etc.).

        Google: Democrats pander to illegal immigrants.
        Who has any doubt that Democrats do pander to illegal immigrants?
        Who has any doubt that Democrats have been pandering to illegal immigrants for decades?
        We’ll let the reader’s be the judge.

        phx8 wrote: if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences.
        phx8 still has not provided any evidence of (exactly) what Tucker Carlson ever said that was racist?

        HHMmmm … perhaps, because it never happened?
        Perhaps it is only another case of phx8 calling everyone that disagrees with phx8: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 3:31 PM
          Comment #434344

          Democrats and many on the left (hypocritically) call for restricting or eliminating 2nd Amendment rights, “even if it saves only one life.”

          However, how many thousands of U.S. citizen lives would be saved by deporting criminal illegal immigrants and protecting our nation’s borders?

          How many of the following crimes and deaths could have been prevented?

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 3:52 PM
          Comment #434345
          Evidently, j2t2 believes illegal immigrants should have the right to vote. Is that right, j2t2?
          What I believe D. is they don’t have the right to vote despite guys like you falsely claiming millions of them are voting. But hey nice deflection it’s just…. well that is why I have started calling your “facts” “D.facts” it helps to separate truth from your fiction.
          IF not, then why does j2t2 post to an article about the history of illegal immigrants voting in the U.S.A.?

          To enlighten all of us with facts D.. The overwhelming barrage of your myths, misinformation, half truths and outright lies are like the dark clouds and real facts are those little rays of sunshine that make our lives better. There was a time when we had legal alien voting in many states. Then when we had a surge of nationalism and states started limiting aliens from voting. Today there aren’t any states that allows for illegal aliens to vote. Despite your claims to the contrary. Read the link you may like a little bit of sunshine for a change.

          I cannot read the link to a NY Times article, and have no desire to pay to read fake news at the NY Times.

          Then you must have met your monthly limit of free reads D. Or you aren’t telling the truth as this link fact checks some of your myths and misinformation.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 14, 2018 5:43 PM
          Comment #434348

          OHHHhhhh….so j2t2 now admits that illegal immigrants are voting in U.S. elections?

          j2t2 wrote: For years you guys have been saying millions of illegals are voting yet haven’t offered any proof.
          How do you know it is not millions.

          Where is your proof?
          See, two people can play your dishonest game.

          j2t2 wrote: What I believe D. is they [illegal immigrants] don’t have the right to vote …
          But, that was not the question.

          Notice how j2t2 moves the goal post, and sleazily avoids the question, and the other 4 questions, that j2t2 would rather not answer for some reason, or another.
          I think we all know the reason j2t2 does not want to answer the following questions.

          Again, The question was not whether illegal immigrants have a right to vote.
          The question to j2t2 was:

          • (1)Do you (j2t2) also believe illegal immigrants should be able to vote?
          • (2)Do you (j2t2) also believe the U.S.A. should have open borders?
          • (3)Do you (j2t2) also believe illegal immigrants should have drivers’ licenses?
          • (4)Do you (j2t2) also believe in sanctuary cities and states?
          • (5)Do you (j2t2) also believe illegal immigrants should receive amnesty, citizenship, welfare, food stamps, free housing, free education, free healthcare, voting in U.S. elections, drivers’ licenses?
          • (6)Do you (j2t2) like the fact that illegal immigrants are most likely, voting Democrat?
          My guess is you will continue to avoid answering those questions.

          Why, I don’t know. Your positions are well known here, regardless of whether you want to admit it.

          j2t2, Also, feel free anytime to disprove exact facts written anywhere, that you see are wrong (not only more worthless j2t2 opinions). That is, if you can.

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 6:37 PM
          Comment #434349
          Based on everything j2t2 writes here, why would anyone think j2t2 would answer “NO” to any of the questions abovce?

          I am not a supporter of open borders D., and I don’t think anyone in the country illegally should vote in our elections. I do support anyone in this country legal or illegal should have a drivers license after completing the requirements each state imposes on the rest of us. I don’t live in a sanctuary city and haven’t really looked into the issue enough to decide. Off the top of my head I probably wouldn’t be a big fan of it.

          The last question is loaded isn’t it D. So lets me say I don’t believe much of that is happening now, (all the free stuff and others not already covered in earlier questions). I have provided links that tell us as much.

          Now let me tell you what else I don’t support. I don’t support the lies you tell about these issues. I don’t support your hatred of all illegal immigrants and how you lump the MS-13 members in with the decent people that come here illegally. Have you ever mentioned the Russian mafia active here or are their skins to light to be included?

          I don’t support your listing of illegals that have committed murders and such when it is used to tar the rest of those that came here illegally. You don’t count the murders committed by citizens I see, as that is a much larger problem. I don’t support

          Your argument against illegals is based upon spreading hate and fearmongering as are your lies about the millions of them voting. Your figures are inflated and your comments are exaggerated and I don’t support them.

          I don’t support separating families as a means to address the problem. I don’t support building walls at the border to solve the problem. I don’t support the way Trump has used his power to solve the problem. I don’t support the DACA deal hinging on building an unnecessary wall.

          I don’t support the lies you guys spread that the dems support all of this when in fact the link to the NYP tells you how misguided you and Trump are. I don’t support the nationalist that just don’t want any immigration and help spread the lies and obfuscate the issues.

          I do support the bi-partisan Congress coming together to address the whole immigration problem. At this point in time we probably cannot address the reasons for the illegal immigration but we could probably help the Central American Countries in solving the effects of the problems that led to the illegal immigration.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 14, 2018 6:41 PM
          Comment #434350

          Many thanks to those who commented on my question about the future of the Republican Party.

          I don’t wish to upset our Liberal Pals. I will merely call what is happening…again…in Florida regarding their inability to conduct an election; UN-fu*king-believable.

          Living in Texas I am reminded of the comments regarding Lyndon Johnson running for office. It was said that “not only did the dead rise and vote; they did it in alphabetical order”.

          I have lived a long time and been witness to many elections. It was not uncommon for newspapers to declare their candidate preference which was done as an editorial.

          Today, we have vast media complexes, all kinds of social media, and political campaigns spending billions of dollars to elect a slate of candidates. I am told that Bebo O’Rourke raised and spent over $72 million in Texas to defeat Ted Cruz.

          Democrats complain about all the money sloshing around come election time; but they vastly outspend Republicans.

          Who can believe that CNN has filed suit against President Trump to charge him with unconstitutional action against their reporter Jim Acosta? Acosta wasn’t asking a question, he was arguing with the President of the United States. That my friends, is not journalism; that is the action of a person seeking sensational headlines. That is a person who abuses the host when he is an invited guest.

          As I wrote in an earlier comment; the Liberal Press has now become a political party and has swallowed the Dem Party. The Dems don’t mind, the Media doesn’t have to buy air-time and can lie without consequence. The media can refuse to cover the good news of our economy, and place the spotlight on some fool who blames the president for mass shootings, or another fool who won’t give up the White House microphone and disrespects a young female intern merely doing her job.

          Thankfully, we have a president who is not willing to roll over and let the media present their “fake news” without a opposition response.

          We have people, right here on WB, who can not distinguish between President Trump exaggerating the facts from time to time, and President Obama who lied intentionally to cover up some malfeasance or to peddle some executive order, or justify some piece of legislation.

          Many Americans are content to let some other fella do their thinking for them. They vote the party, not the policy. Will they ever wake up?

          Posted by: Royal Flush at November 14, 2018 6:57 PM
          Comment #434353

          Yeah, Royal Flush, what goes on in Broward is “unbelievable”.

          It has already been determined that laws have been violated, and it is not the first time. It is definitely time for Brenda (Sneaky) Snipes to go (possibly, to jail).

          j2t2 wrote: I am not a supporter of open borders D., and I don’t think anyone in the country illegally should vote in our elections.
          Yeah, but I’ll bet you are tickled that illegal immigrants are voting Democrat, eh?
          j2t2 wrote: I do support anyone in this country legal or illegal should have a drivers license after completing the requirements each state imposes on the rest of us.
          At least you are honest about that, regardless of how stupid that policy is. But then, that’s how illegal immigrants get automatically registered to vote, eh?
          j2t2 wrote: I don’t live in a sanctuary city and haven’t really looked into the issue enough to decide. Off the top of my head I probably wouldn’t be a big fan of it.
          Sure could have fool us on that one.
          j2t2 wrote: The last question is loaded isn’t it D. So lets me say I don’t believe much of that is happening now, (all the free stuff and others not already covered in earlier questions). I have provided links that tell us as much.
          Wrong.

          There is ample evidence here:

          j2t2 wrote: Now let me tell you what else I don’t support. I don’t support the lies you tell about these issues.
          Feel free anytime to prove (exactly, one by one) what you see is false.
          j2t2 wrote: I don’t support your hatred of all illegal immigrants and how you lump the MS-13 members in with the decent people that come here illegally. Have you ever mentioned the Russian mafia active here or are their skins to light to be included?
          Wrong again. Where did anyone ever say ALL illegal immigrants are MS-13 or dangerous criminals?

          But, for you to conflate the two is yet another deceitful, cowardly, and dishonest attempt, at any cost, to not lose an argument. Whenever you are losing an argument, you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          j2t2 wrote: Have you ever mentioned the Russian mafia active here or are their skins to light to be included?
          ALL illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants. Color of skin, or where they come from does not matter.

          But, for you to conflate the two is yet another deceitful, cowardly, and dishonest attempt, at any cost, to not lose an argument. Another dead give-away that you are losing an argument, when you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          j2t2 wrote:I don’t support your listing of illegals that have committed murders and such when it is used to tar the rest of those that came here illegally.
          Nonsense. Not all immigrants commit violent or serious crimes. But many do, as evidenced by the list, and the news.

          But, for you to conflate the two is yet another deceitful, cowardly, and dishonest attempt, at any cost, to not lose an argument. Another dead give-away that you are losing an argument, when you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          j2t2 wrote: You don’t count the murders committed by citizens I see, as that is a much larger problem. I don’t support
          Ha!

          Democrats and many on the left (hypocritically) call for restricting or eliminating 2nd Amendment rights, “even if it saves only one life.”

          However, how many thousands of U.S. citizen lives would be saved by deporting criminal illegal immigrants and protecting our nation’s borders?

          So, you are a hypocrite.
          Besides, I am not convinced that U.S. citizens commit more crimes that illegal immigrants.
          IF you disagree, feel free to provide some proof.
          Crimes by illegal immigrants are crimes that should have never happened.

          j2t2 wrote: Your argument against illegals is based upon spreading hate and fearmongering as are your lies about the millions of them voting.
          Nonsense.

          I deal with facts that you don’t like, and when you have the courage, or aren’t too lazy, you can feel free to disprove any of those facts.

          And, again, that is yet another dead give-away that you are losing the argument, when you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          Nobody knows exactly how many illegal immigrants are voting in U.S. elections, but one is one too many.
          After all, by Democrats logic, and many on the left (hypocritically) call for restricting or eliminating 2nd Amendment rights, “even if it saves only ONE life.”.

          j2t2 wrote:Your figures are inflated and your comments are exaggerated and I don’t support them.
          Nonsense.

          Again, whenever you have the courage, and/or aren’t too lazy, you can feel free to disprove any of those facts.

          j2t2 wrote: I don’t support separating families as a means to address the problem. I don’t support building walls at the border to solve the problem.
          Ha!

          Your hypocrisy, again, or ignorance, whichever, knows no bounds. Where was your outrage when Obama was doing the same thing (separating children and adults at the border; after all, the adult is often not the parent)?

          In fact, the photos that were shown of children separated from adults at the border were photos taken when Obama was in office (source: thehill.com/opinion/immigration/393675-americans-have-been-played-again-by-open-border-advocates ). Migrant children in U.S. government custody, it turns out, are housed in very comfortable facilities with better food, housing, medical care and education services than many American children in low-income families receive. So you can stop pretending that you care only now.

          j2t2 wrote: I don’t support building walls at the border to solve the problem.
          Unfortunately, the majority of Americans disagree with you. But, it is all too clear what the nefarious reasons against a wall is all about.
          j2t2 wrote: I don’t support the lies you guys spread that the dems support all of this…
          That’s funny, when your comments are frequently disproven repeatedly (or, you are deliberately lying?).

          By the way, what (exactly) so-called lies about DEMs?
          Again, whenever you have the courage, and/or aren’t too lazy, you can feel free to disprove any of those facts.

          j2t2 wrote: … how misguided you and Trump are… .
          After seeing what you write, and seeing how much of it is proven wrong, it is ironic that you think others are “misguided”.
          j2t2 wrote: I don’t support the nationalist.
          Get over it. “Nationalist” is not the same as White Nationalist, and has nothing to do with race.

          Dictionary Definition: Nationalist - a person who advocates political independence for a country.

          j2t2 wrote: … just don’t want any immigration and help spread the lies and obfuscate the issues.
          Nonsense.

          Again, you are obfuscating, and trying to conflate multiple things, which is yet another deceitful, cowardly, and dishonest attempt, at any cost, to not lose an argument. Another dead give-away that you are losing an argument, when you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          j2t2 wrote: I do support the bi-partisan Congress coming together to address the whole immigration problem.
          I don’t believe you. I don’t think you want border security.
          j2t2 wrote: At this point in time we probably cannot address the reasons for the illegal immigration but we could probably help the Central American Countries in solving the effects of the problems that led to the illegal immigration.
          The U.S. already gives $180 Million in aide to Central America, and the U.S. already allows over 1 Million to LEGALLY immigrate to the U.S.

          But, it is never enough for people like you.
          Why is it when anyone disagrees with you, you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 7:42 PM
          Comment #434354
          Royal Flush wrote:Who can believe that CNN has filed suit against President Trump to charge him with unconstitutional action against their reporter Jim Acosta? Acosta wasn’t asking a question, he was arguing with the President of the United States.

          It’s worse that that. He would not relinquish the microphone, and struggled to hold on to the microphone when the intern was instructed to take the microphone to another reporter. That alone is reason enough to ban Jim Acosta permanently. And that is why people chant “CNN SUCKS!”. Because it is true, and CNN proved it today with their low-life law-suit, which will fail, as it should.

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 8:33 PM
          Comment #434358

          Jim Acosta rudely refuses to give up microphone to other reporters, after Jim Acosta already had his chance to give his opinions and ask questions.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIfo4DnFd1I

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 14, 2018 11:16 PM
          Comment #434361

          D. lets get a few things straight so we can move ahead here on WB.

          First of all no one gives a s**t if you believe them or not. least of all me. You are to filled with hatred and fear for me to care about your opinion, my friend, so when I answer a question from you I have no reason to lie to you, laugh at you…maybe…. lie about what I think…never.

          Second just because you put up a bunch on myths and misinformation and then claim them to be facts doesn’t mean they are facts. Just because you continue to put them up doesn’t make them facts, just a big lie often repeated.

          Third just because you try to convince us you have proven something wrong doesn’t mean you have . Just like repeating a lie so often you think it is the truth doesn’t make it the truth. Saying it doesn’t mean it is so.


          Fourth when you ask foolish half truth/outright lies as questions what do you really expect as an answer? I mean ou say “Why is it when anyone disagrees with you, you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !, and I can only say two things
          1.Are you sure that is what was said or have you twisted it around and taken it out of context as you have done with my words of wisdom?
          2. If the shoe fits D., wear it. I mean if you think when I say “the good people of Germany in the early 30’s who were mislead by the Nazi propagandist” is calling you a Nazi then so be it. After all it isn’t the only time you are wrong. But be aware you are way to fearful to be a movement leader so you must be a movement follower. Therefore you are unable to see through the fear and hatred to realize your team is moving farther and farther to the right, from conservatism into fascism and authoritarianism. Real conservatives will tell you this as well.

          BTW which version of the Acosta video are you linking to? The doctored version or the real version? Even the White House has backed away from the doctored version and have changes stories now that CNN has decided to defend themselves from Trumps attacks on the first amendment. Only a coward has to keep repeating a big lie D..


          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 12:42 AM
          Comment #434365
          j2t2 angrily wrote: D. lets get a few things straight so we can move ahead here on WB.
          OOOHhhhhhhhh……is j2t2 upset?

          Anyway, it isn’t possible for you to “get a few things straight”, because you are too deluional, or lying. You are not credible.

          j2t2 angrily wrote: First of all no one gives a s**t if you believe them or not. least of all me.
          Ha! That doesn’t really sound like someone who doesn’t give a Sh!+.

          In fact, j2t2 seems really upset now? Seems like you do care, eh?

          j2t2 falsely wrote: You are to filled with hatred and fear for me to care about your opinion, my friend, …
          Ha! Doth protest too much? : )

          Evidently, you must care, otherwise you would not have responded so angrily, or at all?

          By the way, you are not my friend, and I don’t hate you (it’s not worth the bother), but I also have no respect for you, or similar ilk.

          j2t2 falsely wrote: You are to filled with hatred and fear for me to care about your opinion, my friend, so when I answer a question from you I have no reason to lie to you,…
          The most hatred seen on this blog is from you, phx8, and ohrealy, spewing hatred at everyone else that disagrees with you, and it is you that constantly spews hatred and (whenever you are losing an argument) howls Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !
          j2t2 wrote: … so when I answer a question from you I have no reason to lie to you, laugh at you…maybe…. lie about what I think…never.
          Ha! That, in itself, is a lie.

          Yes, you do lie, and you have been proven wrong many times, but you can’t admit it.
          You are either delusional, or you are lying, or both.

          By the way, again, feel free anytime to disprove any of what you don’t believe are facts (if you think you can).

          j2t2 wrote: Second just because you put up a bunch on myths and misinformation and then claim them to be facts doesn’t mean they are facts.
          Feel free anytime to disprove any of what you don’t believe are facts (if you think you can).

          Must have struck a nerve, eh?
          Perhaps what seems to be upsetting you most is: “The Truth”.

          j2t2 wrote: Just because you continue to put them up doesn’t make them facts, just a big lie often repeated. Third just because you try to convince us you have proven something wrong doesn’t mean you have . Just like repeating a lie so often you think it is the truth doesn’t make it the truth. Saying it doesn’t mean it is so.
          Feel free anytime to disprove any of what you think is a lie (if you think you can).

          As for repeating things, do you mean like you repeatedly comparing everyone (that disagrees with you) to Nazis, and people of the 1930s, or Beastialists, or Racists, or Brown Shirts, or Fascists?

          j2t2 wrote: Fourth when you ask foolish half truth/outright lies as questions what do you really expect as an answer? I mean you say
            d.a.n wrote: “Why is it when anyone disagrees with you, you start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !“…
          …and I can only say two things …
          Not foolish. It’s true. The truth hurts, eh?
          j2t2 wrote: I mean if you think when I say “the good people of Germany in the early 30’s who were mislead by the Nazi propagandist” is calling you a Nazi then so be it.
          Bingo ! Perhaps you are not quite as stupid as your writings make it seem?
          j2t2 wrote: After all it isn’t the only time you are wrong.
          That’s true, and I have admitted to being wrong several times.

          But if you want to discuss what is wrong, your numerous posts calling, implying, or insinuating other people (that don’t agree with you) are Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! is what is wrong. It also is a dead-give-away that you use as a last resort when you are losing your argument.

          Why don’t your try debating with information and research, instead of calling, implying, or insinuating other people (that don’t agree with you) are Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ???

          j2t2 wrote: But be aware you are way to[o] fearful to be a movement leader so you must be a movement follower.
          Nonsense.

          I am neither trying to be a movement leader or follower, and I am an independent that currently sides with conservatives, because Democrats are out-of-control !

          j2t2 wrote: Therefore you are unable to see through the fear and hatred to realize your team is moving farther and farther to the right, from conservatism into fascism and authoritarianism.
          Oh….great….there you go again. Calling others (that you don’t agree with) Fascists.

          Oh well, guess you can’t help yourself, eh?

          j2t2 wrote: Real conservatives will tell you this as well.
          Nonsense. I doubt that you know a real conservative is. Most conservatives that I know do not want:
          • (01) open borders;
          • (02) another shamnesty;
          • (03) higher taxes ($3.2 Trillion in total federal revenues per year is more than enough);
          • (04) to despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes;
          • (05) more sanctuary cities and states;
          • (06) drivers licenses for illegal immigrants;
          • (07) voting rights for illegal immigrants;
          • (08) to pander (despicably) to illegal immigrants with promises of amnesty, citizenship, welfare, free healthcare, foot stamps, free education, and free housing, drivers licenses (which also automatically registers them to vote), instant birthright citizenship allowing the entire family to collect welfare (70% of all babies born at Parkland Hospital are by illegal immigrants);
          • (09) to abolish ICE;
          • (10) “guilty until proven innocent”;
          • (11) to restrict or abolish the 2nd amendment;
          • (12) to grow the government ever larger, beyond the already nightmare proportions;
          • (13) to go around calling everyone (that diagree with them) Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists !
          j2t2 wrote: BTW which version of the Acosta video are you linking to? The doctored version or the real version? Even the White House has backed away from the doctored version and have changes stories now that CNN has decided to defend themselves from Trumps attacks on the first amendment. Only a coward has to keep repeating a big lie D.
          It is the real version. Besides, I never could see the difference between the so-called doctored version and the real-version. Ha! Evidently, you can’t either, or you would not be asking that question.
          j2t2 wrote: … CNN has decided to defend themselves from Trumps attacks on the first amendment. Only a coward has to keep repeating a big lie D.
          I guess you would know, since you keep repeating the big lie (about anyone who disagrees with you):
            Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists !
          Jim Acosta is an a$$hole who rudely refused to relinquish the microphone, and he already had plenty of time for his 2 questions, and he also had his chance to give his opinions.

          He was not only rude to the female intern (moving the microphone from person to person), but Jim Acosta was rude to ALL of the other 50+ reporters.
          IF you can’t see that, then thank you for letting us know, because it explains a lot.

          OK. Now you can do what you usually do, and go ahead and start howling: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists , White Nationalists , etc. !

          P.S. I am 99.9999% certain this all fell on deaf ears (or blind eyeballs). Can’t fix stupid.

          P.P.S. And don’t forget, feel free, anytime, to disprove any of what find are lies or incorrect (if you think you can).
          Only because you call things lies (i.e. whatever you don’t want to see or hear), it does not prove they are lies.

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 15, 2018 3:22 AM
          Comment #434377

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          Posted by: sahmat hussian at November 15, 2018 7:50 AM
          Comment #434382
          OOOHhhhhhhhh……is j2t2 upset?

          D., You read the situation wrong my friend. I’m not upset, I’m sad for you. The anger and the hatred has done a job on you in particular and many right wingers in general. I feel bad for you guys. Were I the least bit angry or upset I would use either all caps or bold text to show you I was angry or…well…kinda like you do.

          But I do care not that you don’t believe me, but I do care for you as a person. You’ve let these issues get to you and seem to have lost perspective. So instead of a good discussion from you all we get is this angry prattle and it lowers the level here on WB.

          Remember D. I have disproved some of your “Facts” in the recent past, but you just seem to ignore or deflect or project so as I have said to you before I stopped bothering with it. You have to much anger and fear which seems to keep you from helping yourself out of the far right wing gutter you find yourself in.

          Look I’m not surprised you can’t tell the difference between the doctored video and the real deal. So I guess that makes it a lie or a conspiracy from the MSM or the dems or me or some illegal immigrant….right? Cause there was a difference my friend. Can you understand that this is just one example of anger and fear getting the best of you? I mean I try to help you and you go into denial mode then you demand proof while you deny all of it.You can’t go into conspiracy mode and expect proof my friend, you just don’t get it.

          But listen I can see you are hurt after the mid terms so understand I was just trying to help you. All the work you put in on your “left wing violence” scheme is now obviously a failure and it hurts, I’m sure. I understand you are unaware of what you have become over time and it is easy to see your ego is hurt from some of my comments, judging by how you try to use them on myself and others so often.

          It amazes me how sensitive you are when it comes to trying to help you understand how far to the right you have wandered. I mean the conservatives I know don’t want families separated only fascist and others farther to the right that hate minorities would want that. Yet when things like this are pointed out to you you seem unable to handle it without blaming the messenger.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 11:08 AM
          Comment #434383

          “Yet when things like this are pointed out to you you seem unable to handle it without blaming the messenger.”

          Probably because of the myths, misinformation and lies used to justify the blatant hypocrisy of the talking-point.

          https://www.vox.com/2015/7/29/9067877/family-detention-immigration-flores

          https://qz.com/1291470/photos-immigrant-children-detained-at-the-placement-center-in-2014/

          More of the same boring psychological projection from the left.

          Posted by: kctim at November 15, 2018 11:52 AM
          Comment #434384

          j2t2 is happy. Democratics are stealing elections out from under everyone’s noses. He’s ecstatic the Republicans are hamstrung. By choice, it seems.

          j2t2 believes the Democratics deserve the elections they are commandeering away from Republicans. They think they are correcting the past gains made in the last decade by Republicans. He believes the Democratics will finally get to impeach Trump and return to the path Obama set out on in 2008, to fundamentally change the United States.

          Even Hillbilly, if she lives that long, believes she will be elected in 2020, one way or another. How many babies will she have to suck the life from to reach 2020? Watching how easy it was to turn elections to the Democratics seems to have given her new hope she will get her wish and become the first 2for1 president. What’s a few babies, right?

          j2t2 is waiting eagerly for the time when he and the left can have WatchBlog, and the public square, all to themselves again. He’s looking forward to preaching to the choir, where everyone agrees with the left under penalty of law. He actually believes he will have a place and be rewarded for his loyalty. Will he have the resources available to understand what happens when then left determines he is to become the new Right? Will he comprehend what happened to him when he becomes the left’s new Nazi, the new Fascist? Will he realize the left needs villains to advance their programs before it’s too late for him? Probably not. He’s more interested in smashing the current opposition so much so that he’s blind to what comes after the left gains complete control.

          So, now that the left believes they have the upper hand, should we on the right become the new j2t2s, the new phx8s, the new ohrealys? Should we go off the deep end jousting at windmills to try to maintain our way of life? Or should we just go with the flow as it seems our current representation is doing?

          j2t2 believes the federal government is the only entity capable of providing the individual with social security. Will he be surprised when the quality of his social security will be dictated by people who are more concerned with power and control and couldn’t care less about his well being? Will he be confused when his access to health care is determined by what party he voted for? It looks like he will get his wish! It looks like the Republican party will simply roll over and wait for their bellies to be scratched by the people who stole their seat from them.

          Congratulations j2t2. I think you deserve what you’re going to get.

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 12:06 PM
          Comment #434385
          j2t2 is happy. Democratics are stealing elections out from under everyone’s noses. He’s ecstatic the Republicans are hamstrung. By choice, it seems.

          Weary, it seems you to have fallen victim to Trumps lies. You do realize he hasn’t provided a shred of proof to back up his lies so why repeat them. Is that the kind of person you are? Remember it was the Georgia SoS that kicked so many off the voting rolls as he ran for office. To call out the dems for stealing elections is the worse kind of projection.

          So, now that the left believes they have the upper hand, should we on the right become the new j2t2s,

          Weary two things, first the dems don’t have the upper hand they just made some gains in the mid terms. Get real dude. Second, for 8 years you guys raged at every move Obama made, every word he said and every thing he wrote. Then when Trump was elected president you demanded respect for your candidate. The same candidate that disrespected so many for so long.

          Should we go off the deep end jousting at windmills to try to maintain our way of life? Or should we just go with the flow as it seems our current representation is doing?

          Weary you guys have been off the deeep end for years, remember the Tea Party. Remember the constant violence from the right wing and then to have it approved of by Trump and increased during his administration? The calls for civil wars? The right wing militia thinking Texas was under attack by the US and sending troops to monitor our military!!

          You sure spend a lot of effort putting words into my mouth, I guess it is just you projecting. But you have it wrong my friend.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 1:17 PM
          Comment #434386

          Jeezus what a bunch of f**ktards these repubs are. Actually demanding to stop the vote count! Then lying to the public claiming it is the dems committing voter fraud! It doesn’t take much sense to know Trump lied when he told the American people that people went out and changed clothes and came back to vote again. Who would fall for something so obviously false? Is there no bottom that the Trump led repubs won’t sink to? How can anyone sleep at night knowing they voted for these fascist twits?

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 2:41 PM
          Comment #434387

          j2t2, what would you say if Republicans started shipping in truckloads of ballots a week after the election and they all counted for the Republican candidates? What would you think?

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 3:07 PM
          Comment #434388

          The republican senate should do what Democratics do when their guy loses. They should simply deny seating the candidate in question and go with their own recount. Democratics have set that precedent twice, perhaps more. What is good for the goose should be good for the gander.

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 3:09 PM
          Comment #434389

          Oh please a truckload of ballots is right up there with re-voting in disguise Weary. You are smarter than that.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 3:18 PM
          Comment #434390

          Do you watch tv with your eyes closed?

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 3:32 PM
          Comment #434391

          Weary if you are getting your misinformation from Faux…well…enough said.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 3:52 PM
          Comment #434392
          j2t2 wrote: D., You read the situation wrong my friend. I’m not upset, I’m sad for you.
          Apparently, you are, because you now say you are so “sad”, eh? : (
          j2t2 wrote: The anger and the hatred has done a job on you in particular and many right wingers in general. I feel bad for you guys. Were I the least bit angry or upset I would use either all caps or bold text to show you I was angry or…well…kinda like you do.
          Funny, since it is you who is repeatedly calling, implying, and/or insinuating that others (anyone who disagrees with you) are:
            Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !
          j2t2 wrote: I feel bad for you guys.
          Really?

          And since j2t2 is so “sad”, and feels so “bad”, that j2t2 repeatedly calls, implies, and/or insinuates that those same people (anyone who disagrees with you) are: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists ! , like the people of Germany in the 1930s ?!? Your own words betray you.

          That does not quite look like sympathy or sadness, does it?
          Is that how someone communicates with people that they are so “sad” and “feel bad” for?
          Or, does that appear like more hypocrisy?

          It looks more like someone who is losing arguments, and in their frustration, finally resorts to repeatedly calling, implying, and/or insinuating that others (anyone who disagrees with you) are: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists ! , like the people of Germany in the 1930s ?!?

          j2t2 wrote: Were I the least bit angry or upset I would use either all caps or bold text to show you I was angry or…well…kinda like you do.
          Doth protest too much about not being upset?

          What upsets you is that your own words betray you.
          You claim to be so “sad” and to feel “bad” for people that you then repeatedly call, imply, and/or insinuate (anyone who disagrees with you) are: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists ! , like the people of Germany in the 1930s ?!? And then, amazingly, you deny doing it.

          j2t2 wrote: But I do care not that you don’t believe me, but I do care for you as a person.
          Nonsense. Do you call all of the people you care aboutb>: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !
          j2t2 wrote: You’ve let these issues get to you and seem to have lost perspective.
          Nonsense. In case you haven’t noticed, what bothers you most is: (a)your own words of hate, (b)the truth, and (c)being repeatedly proven wrong.
          j2t2 wrote: Remember D. I have disproved some of your “Facts” in the recent past.
          Sure, once or twice maybe, and I admitted it. Everyone makes mistakes, but some can never admit it.
          j2t2 wrote: You have to much anger and fear which seems to keep you from helping yourself out of the far right wing gutter you find yourself in.
          Ha! Talk about hatred … as you repeatedly, and clearly demonstrate your hatred for conservatives, while a few minutes before you were writing how you are so “sad” and “feel bad for you guys”.

          Seems hypocritical, eh?

          j2t2 wrote: You can’t go into conspiracy mode and expect proof my friend, you just don’t get it.
          So, that statement is truly ironic, and revealing too.

          There are people that “get it”, and people that “don’t get it”, and you definitely “don’t get it”.

          Especially, since you repeatedly fail to prove your arguments, and then, in frustration, as a last resort, call, imply, and/or insinuate that others (anyone who disagrees with you) are: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          j2t2 wrote: I understand you are unaware of what you have become over time and it is easy to see your ego is hurt from some of my comments, judging by how you try to use them on myself and others so often.
          Your own comments are what really bothers you.

          So, of course, you then have to say you are proud of all of your comments, eh?

          [01] j2t2 wrote: I am proud of each and every one of my comments …

          Again, there is irony in your statements, because you don’t like being disproven (repeatedly), and being unable to prove your failing arguments, you become frustrated, and at which point you repeatedly resort to calling, implying, and/or insinuating that others (anyone who disagrees with you) are: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists ! And then, laughably, you claim you never did any such thing?!?
          For example:

          • [01] j2t2 wrote: I am proud of each and every one of my comments you have listed here. In fact I am especially proud of the donkey show comment [see #09 below] you had so much trouble with.
          • [02] j2t2 wrote: Weary, I haven’t said you [Weary Willie] are a Nazi.
          • [03] j2t2 wrote: I am not calling anyone a Nazi.
          • [04] j2t2 wrote: you complain about the fascist tag you guys on the right have earned.
          • [05] j2t2 wrote: In fact I have said many times here on WB [that] you conservatives here on WB [WatchBlog] remind me of the people of Germany in the late 20’s and early 30’s.
          • [06] j2t2 wrote: Welcome to Trumps America, Zeig Heil !
          • [07] j2t2 wrote: The people of Germany, a lot of good people fell for this type of blaming those different from us and look where it lead, they were Zeig Heiling to a dictator a few years later.
          • [08] j2t2 wrote: It may not be fascism, it may be oligarchy that is the problem but never the less you guys are helping to turn us into something we don’t want to be.
          • [09] j2t2 wrote (comparing conservatives on Watch Blog to “Beastialists” or those that like to watch Beastiality): I didn’t imply anything of the sort. This is what I said “What’s the difference between the Gringo [a disparaging and/or racist term] tourist at the “Tijuana donkey show” and the conservatives on WB [Watchblog] that believe the repubs on the intelligence committee actually have something of substance to show the American people?”
          • [10] j2t2 wrote (comparing Trump supporters to Nazis): Oh look a Trump rally [see video of Nazis supporters in 1939] . God , the flag, nationalism, returning America to the people who founded it, and a liberal protestor to beat on.
          • [11] j2t2 wrote: How sad D. that you would think that calling names is your best argument…
          • [19] j2t2 wrote: Yet here we are with conservatives hanging their hats on fearmongering and hatred as a means to win elections.
          • [20] j2t2 wrote (again, comparing conservatives on Watch Blog to Beastialists or those that like to watch Beastiality): So D., did anybody have an answer to the question? “What’s the difference between the Gringo [a disparaging and/or racist term] tourist at the “Tijuana donkey show” and the conservatives on WB [Watchblog] that believe the repubs on the intelligence committee actually have something of substance to show the American people?”.
          • [21] j2t2 wrote: Now you act surprised and try to deflect the blame! Go f**k yourselves. Point the finger at yourselves for buying into the stupid propaganda you have bought into.
          • [22] j2t2 wrote: I mean I don’t call anyone that I disagree with names, just those that support the far right or are politically on the far right.
          • [24] j2t2 wrote: In fact right now I’m rather proud that you have spent the time going through the archives hunting for my words of wisdom.

          j2t2 wrote: Weary, it seems you to have fallen victim to Trumps lies. You do realize he hasn’t provided a shred of proof to back up his lies so why repeat them. Is that the kind of person you are?
          Watch out Weary Willie … j2t2 is getting wound up again to call, imply, and/or insinuate that you and others (anyone who disagrees with you) are: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !
          j2t2 wrote: Weary two things, first the dems don’t have the upper hand they just made some gains in the mid terms. Get real dude. Second, for 8 years you guys raged at every move Obama made, every word he said and every thing he wrote. Then when Trump was elected president you demanded respect for your candidate. The same candidate that disrespected so many for so long.
          Obama deserves plenty of criticism for the following lies and disasters:
          • Remember, Obama said: “Unlike some, I actually try to state facts. I believe in facts. I believe in a fact-based reality, and a fact-based politics.”; However, Obamacare cost Americans billion$ in losses (possibly, worse); Remember, Obama said: “[Health Insurance] Premiums will be lowered by $2500”; and the Healthcare.gov website was a complete joke, and cost a whopping $1.7 Billion (10 times more than it should have cost); and Obama said: “If you like your doctor, you can keep him, PERIOD.”; Remember, Obama said: “If you like your health insurance, you can keep it, PERIOD!”;
          • There were a record number of people collecting food stamps under the 8 years of Obama.
          • Obama did not have a clue about economics, and said GDP could never rise about 2.0%. Yet, in 2018, GDP reached 4.2%.
          • Obama said jobs that went off-shore are NEVER coming back. Yet, many corporations, money, and jobs ARE returning to the U.S. due to the common-sense reduction of the corporate tax from 35% to 21% (closer to the global average of 20%)
          • More by OBAMA (not a comprehensive list):
            • 001. “I will have the most transparent administration.”;
            • 002. “I have shovel ready jobs.”;
            • 003. “The IRS is not targeting anyone.”; [Lois Lerner was never indicted, but should have been (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner)];
            • 004. “If four Americans get killed…uh…. it is not optimal.” [re: Benghazi]: www.floppingaces.net/2012/10/20/obama-youtube-video-disgusting-four-americans-dead-not-optimal-reader-post/ ];
            • 005. “Benghazi was because of a youtubevideo.”; [Another disgusting lie; Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice also lied about what happened];
            • 006. “ObamaCare will be good for America.”; [In Maryland, Obama celebrated 60,000 Obamacare signups, BUT 73,000 lost insurance BECAUSE OF Obamacare!];
            • 007. “If you like your doctor, you can keep him, PERIOD!”;
            • 008. “If you like your health insurance, you can keep it, PERIOD!”;
            • 009. “Premiums will be lowered by $2500”;
            • 010. “I did not say you could keep your health care.” [Regardless that 29 recorded videos show Obama did say EXCACTLY that];
            • 011. “No one making less than $250,000 will see their taxes raised one dime.”; Opppsss…that was B.S.
            • 012. “If I had a son…”; [This is not the only time Obama racially pre-judged an incident incorrectly];
            • 013. “I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division, conflict and cynicism”.; [Laughable].
            • 014. “You didn’t build that.”; [This reveals a lot about Obama’s philosophy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng ];
            • 015. “I will restore trust in Government.”; [laughable]
            • 016. “The Cambridge police acted stupidly.”; [This is not the only time Obama racially pre-judged an incident incorrectly];
            • 017. “I am not after your guns.”; [D.C. 23-year-old gun ban, which Obama had supported, was over-turned by the Supreme Court];
            • 018. “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.” [Senator Obama of 2006; yet, Obama set an all-time new record of spending, by doubling the national debt, leaving it at $20 Trillion by the end of 2016];
            • 019. “I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics.”; [HHMMmmm…that’s not nice, but it is doubtful even Obama meant to denigrate people with special needs];
            • 020. “I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”; [Yeah, right. As usual, the middle-class gets screwed while their health insurance is destroyed; again, this reveals a lot about Obama’s philosophy (www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSRcXM)];
            • 021. “The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk”; [Did that happen? I don’t think so.]
            • 022. “It’s not my red-line; it is the world’s red-line.”; [Re: consequences for Syria using chemical weapons];
            • 023. “Whistleblowers will be protected.”; [Nevermind the numoerous cover-ups and stonewalling, Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, VA, etc.];
            • 024. “I will close Gitmo.” (Guantanamo); [Almost! Obama released many from Gitmo, and they went on to commit more terrorist acts, killing and injuring more people (www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jan/25/cory-gardner/how-many-released-guantanamo-bay-prisoners-commit-/); As of 23-JAN-2017, several Americans have been killed by the released terrorists; the federal government reported that 17.6% (122 individuals) had been “confirmed of re-engaging” and 12.4% (86 individuals) were suspected of re-engaging in terrorism].
            • 025. “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t, — but she is a typical white person.”; [HHMmmmm … Obama said his mother is a “typical white person”?!?]
            • 026. “I am not spying on American citizens.”; [The NSA was spying on citizens!];
            • 027. Obama said (OCT-2013) government shutdown is all the “GOP’s fault”; [Maybe because they knew Obamacare was a disaster?: www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/10/03/why-did-the-u-s-government-shut-down-in-october-2013/#63ed5d157d9d ]
            • 028. “ObamaCare will lower costs for everyone.”; [but costs actually doubled and tripled for many, causing great harm and loss to many];
            • 029. “More Americans will be insured under Obamacare”; but more harm than good was the actual result];
            • 030. “Islam is the religion of peace and tolerance…Muslims are our friends” [then Obama bows to the muslim leaders; very strange, and not the norm for national leaders who are essentially at a peer level; not subordinate; but then, I remember George Bush walking around while holding hands with the Saudi Crown Prince Abdjullah. That was also very strange. Might be the oil, eh? However, today, since 2017, the U.S. is no longer so dependent on foreign oil];
            • 031. “I am not a dictator.”; [see next statement]
            • 032. “That’s the good thing about being President, I can do whatever I want,” [see previous statement];
            • 033. 2011 Arab spring: FAIL;
            • 034 America’s 2010 Summer of recovery: FAIL;
            • 035. Hiring a known palestinian terrorist to work on Obamacare in Illinois. [Didn’t bother to check her on e-verify];
            • 036. “I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”; [That’s laughable; especially in light of the IRS targeting conservative groups; the deep-state, and officials in the DOJ and FBI trying to use a fake Steele dossier against a political opponent];
            • 037. “Buying health care insurance will be like using Amazon.”; [Ha Ha! Do you remember how screwed up the web-site was, for a very long time? Another lie, and/or a massive example of incompetence];
            • 038. “I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”; [That never happened];
            • 039. “I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year.”; [That didn’t happen];
            • 040. “I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”;
            • 041. “I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration.” [laughable];
            • 042. DOJ spying on the free press telephone calls;
            • 043. Blocking veterans from seeing their own WWII memorials during government shutdown; shutting down white house (people’s house) tours; but allows illegals to protest on the mall during the same government shutdown;
            • 044. Solyndra bankruptcy cost to taxpayer’s;
            • 045. “Obamacare will not be used to fund abortions.”;
            • 046. Eric Holder: “When they go low, we kick them”; way too many other incidents to list here for Eric Holder;
            • 047. Millions losing health care coverage, and forced to spend double and triple for health insurance;
            • 048. RECORD numbrer of people on welfare rolls;
            • 049. RECORD hollywood parties on the taxpayer’s dime;
            • 050. RECORD campaign tours on the taxpayer’s dime;
            • 051. RECORD exorbitant vacations on the taxpayer’s dime; [NOTE: Trump donates his salary to charity];
            • 052. RECORD secret service agents compared to ANY other president, on the taxpayer’s dime;
            • 053. Unconstitutional Obama recess appointment;
            • 054. Taking credit for SEAL Team 6 success;
            • 055. Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs about abortion with Obamacare; forcing businesses to provide insurance to fund abortions;
            • 056. Obamacare website no-bid contract website-cronyism that cost $634Mto build (and the website NEVER worked),amazon.com cost 057. Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists with arms and money in Syria, on the taxpayer’s dime;
            • 058. NSA acting as Obama Gestapo, spying in ALL AMERICAN telephone calls;
            • 059. Proposed amnesty for illegal law breakers;
            • 060. Spying on Americans, on American soil, with drones;
            • 061. NEVER had a balanced budget;
            • 062. The Russians invaded Ukraine, (Obama did nothing);
            • 063. 6 million people losing their healthcare, thanks to Obamacare;
            • 064. “The United States maintains a ‘rock-solid’ commitment to Israel”;
            • 065. Illegal fundraising for Obamacare by Katherine Sebelius (solicitation of money from the companies she regulates) (and Obama did nothing about it);
            • 066. Katherine Sebelius TOTAL incompetence in rolling out Obamacare (and Obama did nothing abut it);
            • 067. ex-IRS official Lerner takes 5th amendment; she is never held accountable; IRS later paid millions in fines and settlements to conservatives groups that had be targeted by the IRS;
            • 068. Failed to adequately fund our Nation’s military;
            • 069. Higher Spending and No Balanced Budget—EVER; doubled the national debt to about $20 Trillion (a new record);
            • 070. $1.2 Trillion in Higher Taxes (as of JUNE-2014);
            • 071. known Obama supporter is appointed to investigate IRS targeting scandal; lots of stonewalling followed; in the end, the IRS has to pay millions in reparations, but no one in the IRS is ever held accountable in the so-called most accountable and “transparent administration”;
            • 072. former Soviet Union laughs at Obama’s Ukraine sanctions.;
            • 073. Over 70% of Obamacare signups are actually from people who LOST their insurance BECAUSE of Obamacare in the first place!;
            • 074. Obama did NOTHING to prevent some 150,000 people being killed in Syria, and he and the left were silent on the matter;
            • 075. On April 6th, 2014 Obama gave a speech on the 20th anniversary of the genocide in Rwanda lecturing about “the world’s failure to respond more quickly” and that “we always have a choice … we must never be indifferent.”; Then there is Syria? And the red-line?
            • 076. Obama demands “equality” but only pays women in his administration 88% of what it pays men;
            • 077. “We’re focused like lasers on job creation!!!”; however, by the end of Obama’s 8 years, record numbers were collecting food stamps;
            • 078. “Jobs are our number one priority!!!!”; under Obama, employment and the economy (for 8 years) was mediocre, at best;
            • 079. “Republicans still can’t bring themselves to admit that the Affordable Care Act is working.”;
            • 080. “If Republicans want to spend all their time talking about repealing a law that’s working, that’s their business.”;
            • 081. Syria uses chemical weapons, despite crossing Obama’s “red line”, and Obama is silent on the matter;
            • 082. As of 21-APR-2014, Obama delays the keystone pipeline for the 45th time;
            • 083. China has become one of the biggest world economies, thanks to “ObamaNomics”.;
            • 084. Obama’s Iran deal was a joke; Obama gave Iran hundreds of billions of dollars, and immediately ramped up work on missiles, and Iran still continued its nuclear programs; John Kerry has had secret, unauthorized meetings with Iran during Trump’s time in office; Iran is one of the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world; Iran has vowed to destroy Israel;
            • 085. in 2013, under the direction of Barack Obama, The Immigration and Customs Enforcement released 36,007 illegal immigrants who had been convicted of murder, sexual assault, kidnapping, and aggravated assault, and drunk or drugged driving (source: cis.org/Report/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Alien-Releases-2013 );
            • 086. incompetence at the Veterans Affairs Administration. Our veterans died …. Obama hires a “coverup” specialist Rob Nabors to assist in the White House’s reputation for deception;
            • 087. Many photos of Obama at the White house shows Obama with his feet on the historically significant antique furniture … it shows a lack of respect for its historical significance;
            • 088. 40 veteran patients die after being placed on a hidden waiting list that could last for up to a year, while officials at the hospital shredded documents and faked evidence to make it seem as if waiting times were under control;
            • 089. New Horizons in Presidential Dignity: President Obama does the “Shake Shack Shimmy” during his visit to the sandwich joint in Washington Friday May 17th 2014. U6 unemployment rate: 17.8% ;
            • 090. May 17th 2014: Greater than Fifty million working-age Americans aren’t working, according to the labor department, and Obama pushes immigration plan; record levels of people collecting food stamps under Obama administration;
            • 091. “STINKBURGER”: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/02/obama_paul_ryans_budget_plan_a_stinkburger_or_meanwich.html ;
            • 092. numerous questionable “executive actions” by Obama; some ruled unconstitutional, and Obama has lost in the Supreme Court more than any modern president: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama ;
            • 093. Russia signs a contract with Iran to build two more nuclear reactors at its Bushehr power plant as part of a broader deal for up to eight reactors in the Islamic state;
            • 094. New Record: Price of Gas was greater than $3 per Gallon for consecutive 1,245 Days (3.41 years);
            • 095. 5-30-14 ILLEGAL negotiation with terrorists: 5 gitmo Taliban terrorist leaders ILLEGALLY released for one American Army deserter: Bowe Berghdahl;
            • 096. Inexcusable! Obama released many from Gitmo, and they committed more terrorist acts, killing and injuring more people (www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jan/25/cory-gardner/how-many-released-guantanamo-bay-prisoners-commit-/); Seriously? As of 23-JAN-2017, several Americans have been killed by the released terrorists; the federal government reported that 17.6% (122 individuals) had been “confirmed of re-engaging” and 12.4% (86 individuals) were suspected of re-engaging in terrorism. George W. Bush released some too, so he is culpable too.
            • 097. Obama negotiates with terrorists to release an army deserter because “we can’t leave an American Behind” but does nothing for the Marine that was being detained illegally in Mexico, arrested in Mexico less than 1 mile from the U.S. border (news.vice.com/article/ex-marine-who-carried-loaded-guns-into-mexico-is-released); Even if Tahmooressi intentionally broke the law, how does the actions of Bergdahl and Tahmooressi compare?
            • 098. Barack Obama’s admits to a what he calls a “boneheaded” move in involving contributor Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Chicago businessman, in the purchase of his property on June 15, 2005. Rezko’s wife, Rita, also an Obama donor, bought the adjoining plot in Hyde Park from the couple, Fredric Wondisford and Sally Radovick, for the $625,000 asking price, the same day that Obama bought the house for $300,000 less than the asking price. Antoin Rezko was under federal investigation at the time. Rezko was indicted on unrelated fraud charges 16 months later, in October 2006. Obama has since returned about $85,000 in campaign contributions made or raised by Rezko … In January 2006, Rita Rezko sold Obamas’ one-sixth of the lot, for $104,500, to expand their yard;
            • 099. Since Obama’s inauguration in JAN-2009, 1,100 elected Democrats have subsequently been ousted by Republicans, hold only 18 of 50 governorships, and 31 of 99 state legislature chambers. Obama asked Americans to cast their votes for a thumbs-up or thumbs-down, and they did. In almost every respect, Obama leaves behind a trail of failure and disappointment. Obamacare was a healthcare disaster, and Politifact dubbed Obama’s statement, which he repeated over and over (“If you like your health plan, you can keep it”) as the “Lie of the Year”. Obama’s foreign policy was a disaster, and Obama’s rush to pull troops from Iraq and Afghanistan created a vacuum which plunged the region into terror, voilence, and inspired lethal terrorist attacks in the west.
            • 100. Obama promised to soothe America’s bitter and divisive politics, but the healer-in-chief never showed up. In Obama’s own words, his political strategy was one of ruthless escalation: Obama said: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” During his 2012 reelection campaign;
            • 101. Obama and his administration had a filibuster-proof Congress in 2009, and failed to pass a pathway to citizenship for the “Dreamer” illegal immigrants; Obama was already too focused on Obamacare and what he thouhgt was going to be his benevolent legacy for America (which turned into a disaster);

          So, Obama was a good president, but he was not as bad as George W. Bush (due to Iraq war; 4,497 U.S. soldiers killed), or Lyndon B. Johnson (due to Vietnam war; 58,209 U.S. soldiers killed), two of the worst presidents in the last 65 years.

          • # ___ War __________________ Years ____ Deaths ____ Deaths/day _ U.S. pop. _ Deaths per pop.
          • 01 __ American Civil War____ 1861–65 ___ 750,000 __ 520 _______ 31,443,000 __ 2.385% (1860)
          • 02 __ World War II ________ 1941–45 ___ 405,399 __ 297 _______ 133,402,000 _ 0.307% (1940)
          • 03 __ World War I _________ 1917–18 ___ 116,516 __ 279 _______ 103,268,000 _ 0.110% (1920)
          • 04 __ Vietnam War _________ 1961–75 ___ 58,209 ___ 11 ________ 179,323,175 _ 0.032% (1970)
          • 05 __ Korean War __________ 1950–53 ___ 54,246 ___ 45 ________ 151,325,000 _ 0.036% (1950)
          • 06 __ American Rev. War ____ 1775–83 ___ 25,000 ___ 11 __________ 2,500,000 __ 1.00% (1780)
          • 07 __ War of 1812 _________ 1812–15 ___ 15,000 ___ 15 __________ 8,000,000 _ 0.207% (1810)
          • 08 __ Mexican–American War_ 1846–48 ___ 13,283 ___ 29 _________ 21,406,000 _ 0.057% (1850)
          • 09 __ Iraq War ____________ 2003–2011 __ 4,497 ____ 2 ________ 294,043,000 _ 0.002% (2010)
          • 10 __ Philippine–Amer. War__ 1899–1902 __ 4,196 ___ 3.8 _________ 72,129,001 _ 0.006% (1900)
          • 11 __ Spanish–Amer. War ___ 1898 _______ 2,246 __ 8.9 _________ 62,022,250 _ 0.004% (1890)
          • 12 __ War in Afghanistan ____ 2001-present_ 2,216 __ 0.36 ________ 294,043,000 _ 0.001% (2010)
          j2t2 wrote: Weary you guys have been off the deeep end for years,… You sure spend a lot of effort putting words into my mouth, I guess it is just you projecting. But you have it wrong my friend.

          Nonsense. Only you can make a fool of you.

          It is many Democrats and others on the left that are out-of-control, and want: (01)open borders; (02)amnesty for illegal immigrants; (03)more sanctuary cities and states; (04)more illegal immigration; (05)to abolish I.C.E.; (06)higher taxes; (07)more Obamacare; (08)embrace “Guilty until proven innocent”; (09)to abolish the 2nd amendment; (10)and like j2t2 and phx8, to label anyone who disagrees as: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , and Beastialists ! , White Nationalists !

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 15, 2018 3:59 PM
          Comment #434393

          What are you trying to protect, j2t2? What is it you think Trump is destroying? No obfuscating with answers like, “Trump is a Nazi/Fascist” or “Trump is destroying the country!”. What specifically is Trump destroying that makes you think he is dangerous?

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 4:11 PM
          Comment #434394

          “BTW which version of the Acosta video are you linking to? The doctored version or the real version?”

          Well j2t2, I watched the press conference live. Am I not to believe my eyes? Was watching the event “live” not “live”.

          Let me explain how truly ignorant this challenge is. President Trump could decide to never call on any CNN reporter, or any reporter he doesn’t like; and it would not violate any constitutional “rights”. President Trump could decide to not hold any more press events and it would not violate any “rights”.

          My God, stupid truly is contagious for many on the Lefty fringes.

          Posted by: Royal Flush at November 15, 2018 4:16 PM
          Comment #434395

          “…the dems don’t have the upper hand they just made some gains in the mid terms.”

          Unfurl the flag, strike up the band, set off the fireworks…I agree with j2t2. Pigs are flying and hell is frozen over.

          Posted by: Royal Flush at November 15, 2018 4:31 PM
          Comment #434396
          j2t2 wrote: “…the dems don’t have the upper hand they just made some gains in the mid terms.”
          Oh NO !!! Don’t tell phx8 !!!
        • phx8 thinks the blue tinkle was a blue wave, despite history being made when the IN-PARTY gained seats in the SENATE for only the 3rd time in 103 years, and the number of seats gained in the house (about 35 so far) was near the average of 32.2 seats flipped since 1859 (over the last 160 years), and far less than the 54 seats Dems lost in 1995 and 64 seats Dems lost in 2011.
          phx8 wrote: if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences.
          phx8 still has not provided any evidence of (exactly) what Tucker Carlson ever said that was racist?
        • Posted by: d.a.n at November 15, 2018 5:25 PM
          Comment #434397

          I wonder if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is related to Hernán Cortés, the guy who wiped out the indigenous Aztec civilization?

          If sportscaster Robert Lee can be stripped of his position for having the same name as a confederate, then perhaps we should be looking at this chick and demanding she disappear because of what a guy with the same name did to the Aztec in the name of the Spanish empire. Let’s assume she is as bad as they say Columbus is because she has the same name as one of his fellow countrymen who raped and plundered Mexico!

          What’s fair for the goose is fair for the gander.

          This idea can’t possibly offend j2t2 because he didn’t have a problem with Robert Lee getting pushed off the air for his name.

          Right, j2t2?

          By the way, you haven’t answered my question! What are you protecting?

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 5:29 PM
          Comment #434405
          Unfurl the flag, strike up the band, set off the fireworks…I agree with j2t2. Pigs are flying and hell is frozen over.

          Yeah you are probably right Royal I must be wrong. The prediction was for 29 seats in the house what are those dems up to now? Anybody know? 39? And they didn’t have to cheat like the repubs!

          President Trump could decide to never call on any CNN reporter, or any reporter he doesn’t like; and it would not violate any constitutional “rights”. President Trump could decide to not hold any more press events and it would not violate any “rights”.


          Well it seems things are back to normal. What is truly ignorant is Trump actually doing this and his followers actually believing it best for the country. IMHO you guys should demand Trump man up, grow a pair, know what I mean. The a**hat can’t answer an intelligent question so he creates a scene and then blames the reporter! Kinda like waiting till he gets back home from France and then starts going off on Macron, what a pud that Trump is. At least Obama could respond to Faux reporters without all the drama quenn crap.

          Posted by: j2t2 at November 15, 2018 7:32 PM
          Comment #434406

          What is Trump destroying, j2t2? You’ve got to have something specific in mind. What is it?

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 7:44 PM
          Comment #434407

          I will be gentle with you j2t2 as we are all aware of your delicate sensibilities.

          I watched the “live” TV broadcast as President Trump answered Acosta’s question. Then, Acosta wanted to argue about the meaning of the word “invasion”. President Trump wanted to be fair to the many other reporters in the room and called on someone else. Acosta, being a bully, wouldn’t relinquish the mike. He swatted away a female intern in an aggressive woman-hating fashion and demanded the president address him.

          Acosta is a CNN stooge and glory seeking grand-stander.

          Posted by: Royal Flush at November 15, 2018 7:53 PM
          Comment #434408
          Royal Flush wrote: Let me explain how truly ignorant this challenge [by CNN lawsuit] is. President Trump could decide to never call on any CNN reporter, or any reporter he doesn’t like; and it would not violate any constitutional “rights”. President Trump could decide to not hold any more press events and it would not violate any “rights”.
          Good point! They should let Jim Acosta come back, and then never call him again. Ha ha!
          Royal Flush wrote: I will be gentle with you j2t2 as we are all aware of your delicate sensibilities.
          Funny! : )

          Jim Acosta is a rude jerk, and it is amazing that j2t2, or anyone else, would try to defend Jim Acosta, and then howl about the 1st Amendment being violated.

          How dare Weary Willie ask for supporting facts for what j2t2 thinks Trump is destroying?
          How dare d.a.n ask for supporting facts when

          phx8 wrote: if Tucker Carlson wants to spread hatred and white nationalism on FOX, he should expect consequences.

          Unfortunately, j2t2 and phx8 apparently get frustrated when they are twisting like a pretzel to salvage a failing argumnet, and finally resort to their favorite obfuscation, which is that you, and all other conservatives are all: Racists ! , Fascists ! , Nazis ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists ! , Sexists ! , Misogynists ! , Xenophobes ! , Anti-Semetites, Authoritarians, Right-Wing Conservatives ! , and Bigots !.
          • j2t2 wrote that illegal immigrants don’t vote, but it is proven that they do.
          • j2t2 wrote that illegal immigrants don’t collect welfare, but it is proven that they do.
          • phx8 wrote that 435 in 328 Million less than 1 in 10 million, but it is proven that it isn’t (e.g. it is 13.26 times greater).
          • phx8 wrote Trump called for a ban on all Muslims, but that was proven false (no actual executive actions ever stated there was a ban on Muslims).
          • j2t2 wrote that Democrats did do something for immigrants when the Dems had a filibuster-proof Congress for 5 months in 2009, but it is proven false, because the Democrats failed to pass the DREAM act (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act#2009) when they could have.
          • phx8 wrote “there is no rioting in CA over sanctuary cities”, which was proven to be false (source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4hG3PgqjCY , www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw2ekveCOfg , www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvs1GO9J6Dg).
          • phx8 wrote that there were no “Middle Easterner” in Honduras, but the Guatemalan President, Jimmy Morales announced in October 2018 that 100 people were arrested and deportated, who were “highly linked to terrorist groups, specifically ISIS” (source: www.snopes.com/fact-check/isis-terrorists-guatemala-caravan/ ). phx8 offered nothing to disprove it; only his usual worthless opinions.
          • phx8 wrote “…we see Trump denounce them [illegal immigrants in caravans] as criminals, rapists, MS-13, and more.”, which was proven false, because Trump never said all illegal immigrants are criminals; Trump said some people are only looking for work, but some are criminals.
          • phx8 wtote: “The Democrats stabilized the debt under Clinton,…”, which is false, because Clinton actually almost balanced the annual budget in his last of 8 years in office, and the national debt increased that year, and has never decreased since year 1957.
          • j2t2 wrote that “I am not calling anyone a Nazi”, but then j2t2 wrote: “you complain about the fascist tag you guys on the right have earned”, and “Welcome to Trumps America, Zeig Heil !
          • phx8 wrote: Real estate is slowing as interest rates rise. It was disproven, because new and used home sales had been increasing since 2011 to mid 2018.
          • j2t2 and phx8 claimed tax cuts were for the rich only, and no companies or money were returning to the U.S., but that was disproven, and it was shown that numerous companies and hundreds of billions of dollars were returning to the U.S.
          • j2t2 and phx8 claimed tax cuts were for the rich only, but the tax rate for the upper-income brackets were reduced 1%-to-2.4%, and 2%-to-4% for the lower brackets.
          • phx8 wrote: The Trump administration and the GOP robbed the Treasury to give tax cuts to the rich and to corporations.”, but that was disproven (previous line) for income tax, and lowering the corporate tax from 35% to the 21% is common-sense, since the global average corporate income tax is 20%, and anything higher simply incentivized companies to leave the U.S.
          • phx9 wrote: “There was zero net migration from Mexico even before Trump took office.”, which was disproven, because there are still about 2119 illegal immigrants stopped at the borders, but many are still getting through, and many are over-staying after their visas expire, and many people (tens of thousands per year) are flying to the U.S. to have a baby, so that they will have an anchor baby, and all the benefits that come from that anchor baby.
          • phx9 wrote: “Border security has not really changed [under Trump], which was proven to be false, because apprehensions at the border had fallen from about 570K per year in 2016 to 320K per year in 2018 (source: www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/fact-check-trump-border-crossings-declining-.html).
          • j2t2 wrote that others are throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks, but it appears as if that is actually what j2t2 and phx8 do, and when they are mistaken, they never admit it.

          So, Weary Willie, perhaps that is why they are reluctant to answer your questions.

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 15, 2018 8:31 PM
          Comment #434410

          I think, deep down they really don’t know how to deal with someone who disagrees with them. New media is questioning them and they can’t hide behind the one way street of the media of days gone bye.

          InfoWars says they were banned from the major media platforms because they had more viewers than CNN did.

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 9:54 PM
          Comment #434411

          Hasn’t there been a major increase in data breaches throughout the U.S. economy since social media dominated the internet?

          That alone should raise concerns.

          If you let the internet and social media dominate the discussion you might as well eliminate borders.

          What value would they have?


          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 15, 2018 10:08 PM
          Comment #434412

          Yeah. I deleted my Facebook account, and some other accounts.

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 16, 2018 12:05 AM
          Comment #434447

          Thanks to d.a.n. for the phx8 and j2t2 “sin list”.

          A federal judge ruled that the White House must “temporarily” return a press pass to CNN reporter Jim Acosta. The judge cited the “due process” clause in the Fifth Amendment.

          The judge ruled that Acosta hadn’t received sufficient notice or explanation before his credentials were revoked or been given sufficient opportunity to respond before they were.

          “In response to the court, we will temporarily reinstate the reporter’s hard pass,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement. “We will also further develop rules and processes to ensure fair and orderly press conferences in the future.”

          The judge also emphasized the “very limited nature” of his ruling Friday. He noted he had not determined that the First Amendment was violated.

          The judge told attorneys to file additional court papers in the case by Monday.

          I watched the president’s brief response to reporters questions this morning. He indicated that rules of behavior for reporters will be initiated.

          Sounds to me like a kindergarten teacher scolding children on how to act.

          Posted by: Royal Flush at November 16, 2018 3:30 PM
          Comment #434449

          That might be a good thing. Jim Acosta is the gift that keeps on giving. Likewise with Kamala Harris, and “Get in their face” Maxine Waters, Cory Booker, Obama, “kick them” Eric Holder, “Shut up and step up” Mazie Hirono, etc., etc., etc.

          Posted by: d.a.n at November 16, 2018 3:54 PM
          Comment #434453

          Thanks to d.a.n. for the link to two people who represent how “bottom-feeding” as a reporter, or U.S. senator, can improve ones resume or pander to political constituency.

          Our Constitution, and the good people of the United States, protect the rights of these hate-filled, knuckle-dragging people.

          Posted by: Royal Flush at November 16, 2018 4:21 PM
          Comment #434524

          I agree that no one should be banned WB. I just posted in the middle that Nancy should be reelected as Speaker. That would go a long way in ensuring that the President wins a second term.

          Still, I do think the dim party should be disbanded. The level of corruption and what with the ongoing conspiracy to take down a sitting President demands that the party give it up, IMO.

          Again, thank you d.a.n. for your finger bruising posts in responding to the whiny dims ‘why’, ‘why’, ‘why’. Nothing short of beautiful, IMO.

          Posted by: Roy Ellis at November 17, 2018 2:32 PM
          Comment #434525
          Still, I do think the dim party should be disbanded. The level of corruption and what with the ongoing conspiracy to take down a sitting President demands that the party give it up, IMO.


          Roy gotta give it to you for seeing the splinter in your brothers eye through the log in your own eye. You seem to be the victim of your own teams propaganda. despite holding Clinton and Pelosi up as the evil you guys are running against you have had two years to actually go and prove your teams lies, to get indictments to expose the corruption you claim the dems are guilty of. Yet zip, zero, nada and nothing(and that’s not counting the 8 years of the Obama administration and all the lies from your team).


          Why not run on issues? It seems you guys can’t tell the people the truth and win elections. Yet you refuse to see that. Is it intentional or are you just so far gone in the conspiracy world of
          QAnon
          and such that you simply can’t decipher the lies you believe?


          Posted by: j2t2 at November 17, 2018 3:03 PM
          Comment #434533

          There’s another one of those words that might mean something else to the user. Truth. That’s a real grey area.

          Posted by: Weary Willie at November 17, 2018 5:57 PM
          Comment #434554
          Weary Willie wrote: There’s another one of those words that might mean something else to the user. Truth. That’s a real grey area.
          Well, it certainly seems so … especially for some people.

          For example:

          j2t2 wrote: It seems you guys can’t tell the people the truth and win elections. Yet you refuse to see that.

          Ha! Thanks j2t2! Yet, another great example of accusing others of not being truthful, despite repeatedly being proven wrong (or lying; for example).

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          Comment #434582

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