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A Texas 2-Seater on a Blue-Green Wave

It would have been near the end of 4th grade that the Time - or was it Newsweek? - cover lay on the living room table with the photographs of Bobby Kennedy dying or dead in a horrifying pool of blood. I remember the face, the photographs of the smiling man who had somehow reignited voters in as turbulent a time as America is now living through. Those buck teeth and those piercing but wounded eyes. The excitement was real, even if RFK sucked as a candidate for the first few months and even years until he started to catch fire in the spring of 68.

Beto O'Rourke, I remember those times, even if as only an elementary school kid. You're not who they hint you are, as much as you and much of the media world would LOVE it if you were. The fact that you're Texan - take that ghost of LBJ! - would be added sweetness on top of an already overloaded confection. And money from contributors small and large has been pouring into your coffers like a ... well, Texas Flood. It may reach $50 million. Fifty. Million. For a single senate seat.

So, Texas is shaping up to be not a blue wave - with O'Rourke down nearly 10 points in some polls versus that evil conservative, libertarian, Calgary-born, Tea-party lawyer Ted Cruz who seems to be convincing voters in his state that he is worth keeping in office - but rather a green wave. An enormous tsunami of money that is desperately hoping to achieve a symbolic victory against one of the Tea Party's most visible members. Even if Senator Cruz has toned down his burn-the-Senate-down attitude since Trump was elected, and even gets along with the president it seems.

In other words, the 2018 midterms may very well end up being a blue-green wave, or a turquoise wave if you must, where some areas will indeed register high turnouts of angry voters, and some areas will remain areas where large amounts of money will still be unable to turn red states into blue or even purple ones.

This will depend on the specifics of local turnout and as Jim Geraghty in National Review points out, voter turnout is never as high as voters' responses to pre-election surveys. No matter how angry or passionate they claim to be.

"We're constantly told that President Trump is anti-Latino xenophobia personified. If Latinos aren't registering to vote in this circumstance, then one of two things is wrong. Either Latinos simply don't care that the personification of anti-Latino xenophobia is now in the Oval Office, or more likely, they reject the characterization of him and don't find him all that menacing. (Not choosing is a choice; choosing to not register to vote is an endorsement of the status quo.) In all likelihood, quite a few Latinos like some of Trump's policies. Liberals are now lamenting, "last week's NPR/PBS/Marist poll, 41 percent of Hispanics approved of Trump's performance. Another recent poll put Trump's approval among Latinos at 35 percent." That's not great, but that's really good if you're supposed to be el diablo." - Geraghty talking about Latino voter turnout in Texas and how they don't really hate the man in the White House the way Democrats insist they do.

In other words, voter turnout won't be as high as Democrats want in Texas and part of the reason is because Latinos actually agree with some of Trump's policies. That in of itself is radically different from the crusading-savior-in-Texas narrative that media are trying to construct on waves and waves of donor cash. A blue-green wave is still local, at least some of the time, and the results may not always turn out to be what people are predicting.

Does that mean the House stays Republican? No, likely not. But right now, an increase of a couple of Senate seats for the GOP is a rather reasonable possibility, including holding on to their 2 seats in Texas.

Call it a Texas 2-Seater on a Blue-Green Wave.

Posted by AllardK at October 18, 2018 2:56 PM
Comments
Comment #433020

Looking like Laura Kelly and Sharice Davids will win Kansas.

St. Louis, Kansas City and all the outside dark money will give Claire McCaskill a win over Hawley.

IF the democrats can keep from shooting themselves in the foot again and keep their leftists under control, they should have a pretty decent election.

Posted by: kctim at October 18, 2018 3:30 PM
Comment #433025

Kctim, lets not forget the years of hard work repubs have put in to voter suppression and gerrymandering, not to mention the help from Putin’s trolls and the vast conservative propaganda network.

With Sinclair buying up media outlets and squashing any real news you guys have a lot of things going your way, especially in states with GOP controlled voting systems and Secretary of States. Several states have purged voting rolls and Georgia is trying its hardest to keep anyone but the landed gentry from voting.

With the hint from McConnell to repeal Obamacare! (yes he still calls it Obamacare after all they have done to it) and telling us he is going after Social Security and Medicare as well as Medicaid the repubs should be frothing at the mouth to get repubs re-elected.

Of course the deep hole in the deficit they dug by cutting taxes will need to be glossed over but hey with the propagandist you guys have it should be easy.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 18, 2018 5:42 PM
Comment #433027

VOTER SUPPRESSION

Require the voter to be a citizen of the United States.

Require the voter to identify themselves as eligible to vote.

Require the voter to only vote once.

Require the voter be alive

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 18, 2018 6:01 PM
Comment #433028

Voter Suppression … Those requirements are funny! : )

Both parties Gerrymander.
Both parties use propaganda.
However, Democrats and others on the left are most guilty of voter suppression (by violence and harassment) since 2016.

For example:


Posted by: d.a.n at October 18, 2018 7:41 PM
Comment #433029

http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010162.html#432983

Posted by: d.a.n at October 18, 2018 7:44 PM
Comment #433051

J2,
I have never met anyone who was denied their vote.

As I’ve said before, I don’t like gerrymandering, but both sides are guilty of it and it will take both sides to fix it. IF the left were willing to stop trying to use race and class to their advantage, it could probably be fixed.

Nothing the right may be doing can even come close to matching the left-wing ‘main stream media’ we have. THAT is where collusion lives AND it is proven every day.

Putin? The landed gentry? FFS

States are supposed to purge voting rolls of ineligible voters. It is the responsibility of the voter to ensure they are eligible to vote. I check BEFORE each and every vote I cast.

God, I hope they repeal Obamacare. That has probably been the worst piece of legislation passed in a long time. Skyrocketing premiums and deductibles, the loss of individual rights, loss of plans, loss of doctors, all known results that innocent Americans should not have been forced to incur.

Posted by: kctim at October 19, 2018 8:03 AM
Comment #433052

I’m all for proposing solutions instead of whining about our current situation.

What do you think about this solution to gerrymandering?

Let’s eliminate the practice entirely. How? Like this:

The congress designates the number of representatives that each state is allotted based on population. With this information in mind the state will have on it’s ballot (state wide) all the designated positions. If a state is designated to have 7 representatives then all 7 representatives will be on the ballot statewide. Any candidate who is a citizen of the state can run for any of the 7 positions. The 7 candidates receiving the highest vote count totals of all the candidates are sent to D.C. to represent the state.

It’s a proposal that will eliminate gerrymandering while also representing all the population in the state. I think it’s a workable solution that doesn’t need a constitutional amendment to be implemented.

What do you think of it?

P.S. We also have to repeal the 17th amendment.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 19, 2018 9:14 AM
Comment #433053
j2t2 wrote:Of course the deep hole in the deficit they dug by cutting taxes will need to be glossed over but hey with the propagandist you guys have it should be easy.
LOL.

It takes a lot of gall for Democrats to try to blame debt on Republicans since JAN-2017, when Obama and Democrats doubled the national debt (an all-time record) from $10.3 to $20 Trillion:

    U.S. National Debt:
  • Year 2008: $9.2 Trillion (G.W. Bush)
  • Year 2009: $10.3 Trillion (Obama) JAN-2009
  • Year 2010: $12.1 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2011: $14.1 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2012: $15.4 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2013: $16.2 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2014: $17.1 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2015: $18.0 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2016: $19.1 Trillion (Obama)
  • Year 2017: $20.0 Trillion (Obama) JAN-2017
  • Year 2017: $20.1 Trillion (Trump) JAN-2017
  • Year 2018: $21.5 Trillion (Trump) SEP-2018
  • Source: tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
While it is true that George W. Bush totally screwed up a lot of things (i.e. Iraq war & no WMD; the mortgage meltdown; federal debt due to the IRAQ war; GWB is one of the worst presidents ever in my opinion, due to the loss of thoudsands of U.S. troops in Iraq), but the eight years of Obama’s policies and Obamacare is the disaster that is mostly responsible for contributing to the doubling of the national debt during the 8 years under Obama (see above). GWB may have added about $2 Trillion onto the debt while Obama was in office, but that does not explain the remaining $8 Trillion in additional debt by the end of Obama’s 8 years in office. Democrats are culpable too, because many Democrats (29 Senators; 82 in the House) went along with the war in Iraq. And we are still stuck with Obamacare, and it is still contributing to debt and rising healthcare costs. The negative effects of Obamacare have hurt millions of Americans. While about 10 million people signed up for Obamacare in 2016, many millions more lost their doctors, their insurance plans, deductibles skyrocketed, premiums skyrocketed, costs skyrocketed, and the overall result was that the U.S. was now in a worse place than before Obamacare started. Obamacare would have never been passed had the U.S. known what they know now.

The Democrats are still running on Healthcare (which is still prioritized behind economic and national security issues). The Democrats had 8 years to promote Obamacare. Do you think the majority of voters want more ot it? Some Democrats have doubled-down, and they want 100% government-run healthcare, which would be an ever larger disaster.

Which do you think would be more efficient, and provide the best healthcare for the lowest cost?
A 100% government-run healthcare system?
Or a market-driven health insurance system, with some federal and state government regulations (i.e. an option for the customer for pre-existing conditions), and the continuation of Medicaid and welfare for the truly needy provided by the federal and state governments?
Knowing that most things that the federal government administers are terribly wasteful, fraugh with fraud ($70 Billion per year in Medicare fraud), and inefficient, which do you seriously think would be better?

As for tax cuts, the majority of tax cuts were for corporations (lowered from 35% to 21%), which is common-sense, since the global average is 20%, and anything higher than 20% is simply driving corporations out of the U.S. Since the tax cuts, corporations, money, and jobs have been returning to the U.S.

As for debt due to tax cuts, they may be offset by spending cuts, and increased tax revenues, and by many corporations, money, and jobs returning to the U.S. due to the reduction of the corporate tax from 35% to 21% (closer to the global average of 20%):

  • Apple is bringing back $38 Billion back to the U.S. after the tax overhaul.
    - Source: www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2018/01/17/apple-says-it-will-bring-cash-back-to-us-pay-38-billion-in-repatriation-tax/#62baf5592222
  • Insulet Corp.; Total jobs reshored: 1,500 jobs; States benefiting: Massachusetts; Industry: Biotechnology; Headquarters: Billerica, Massachusetts; Insulet Corporation manufactures insulin delivery systems. In 2017 the company announced it would be moving the production of its flagship product — the Omnipod, a tubeless, waterproof insulin pump — from China to a new facility in Acton, Massachusetts. Insulet cited the area’s skilled workforce and rising labor costs in China as reasons for the move. If Insulet meets earnings expectations for the next several years, the new facility could employ as many as 1,500 workers by 2021.
  • Element Electronics; Total jobs reshored: 1,500; States benefiting: Michigan, South Carolina; Industry: Consumer electronics; Headquarters: Winnsboro, South Carolina; In 2012, South Carolina-based consumer electronics manufacturer Element Electronics opened a new flat screen television factory in Detroit. The decision was based on a need to consolidate the company’s supply chain, and made Element one of the only companies to manufacture televisions in the U.S. Element also reshored production from China to Winnsboro, South Carolina with an initial $7.5 million investment in a new plant that is projected to lead to the creation of 500 jobs. The TV manufacturer cited Walmart’s pledge to buy $250 billion of U.S.-made products from 2013 to 2023 as a primary reason to relocate operations to the United States.
  • Gentex; Total jobs reshored: 1,600 jobs; States benefiting: Michigan; Industry: Motor vehicle parts; Headquarters: Zeeland, Michigan; Over the last several years, mirror manufacturer Gentex closed its two plants in China and Mexico in an effort to centralize production in Zeeland, Michigan. While labor was less expensive overseas, the move to consolidate all stages of production in one location is likely to reduce transportation costs and the risk of manufacturing error. According to the Reshoring Initiative, the company’s reshoring efforts since 2010 amount to a total of 1,600 jobs for U.S. workers.
  • Amgen; Total jobs reshored: 1,600; States benefiting: Rhode Island, TBD; Industry: Pharmaceuticals; Headquarters: Thousand Oaks, California; In a January 2018 meeting with President Donald Trump, Amgen CEO Robert Bradway announced that the firm was planning to add 1,600 manufacturing jobs in the U.S. The announcement came several years after the biopharma company cut approximately 15% of its workforce and closed two U.S. manufacturing facilities in 2014 as part of major cost-saving efforts. Most recently, Amgen announced in February 2018 that it would invest $300 million in a new U.S. biologics plant that would employ approximately 300 workers upon completion. An April 2018 recent press release from the company named West Greenwich, Rhode Island, as the site of the new facility.
  • Merck & Co.; Total jobs reshored: 1,633 jobs; States benefiting: New Jersey, TBD; Industry: Pharmaceuticals; Headquarters: Kenilworth, New Jersey; In July 2017, the White House announced that Merck, along with pharmaceutical manufacturers Pfizer and Corning, have committed to making a joint investment of at least $4 billion in pharmaceutical glass manufacturing in the U.S. The partnership will focus on the manufacturing of advanced pharmaceutical glass packing, a technology used in the storage of injectable drugs, as well as vials and cartridges, and is projected to lead to the direct hiring of 4,000 U.S. employees across the three companies. Merck also recently reshored approximately 300 jobs as part of its efforts to consolidate its overseas operations in the U.S. The company relocated the headquarters of its animal health division from Boxmeer, the Netherlands to its campus in Summit, New Jersey in 2013 as part of a larger restructuring effort.
  • SolarCity; Total jobs reshored: 1,900; States benefiting: New York; Industry: Energy production & storage; Headquarters: San Mateo, California; In 2014, SolarCity announced a deal with the State of New York that commits the company to invest approximately $5 billion over the next 10 years in return for a $750 million construction subsidy that is projected to create at least 1,900 jobs. The investment is focused around the construction of a new facility in South Buffalo. Without major government subsidies, domestic manufacturing of solar panels has largely been prohibitively expensive, as U.S. labor costs were too high compared to other countries. While the project stalled for several years as SolarCity reevaluated its timeframe and was taken over by Tesla, solar roof tile production began at the new factory in December 2017.
  • Polaris Industries; Total jobs reshored: 2,000; States benefiting: Alabama; Industry: Transportation equipment; Headquarters: Deerfield, Illinois; In January 2015, automotive manufacturer Polaris Industries announced plans to build a $142 million off-road vehicle plant in Huntsville, Alabama that will create an estimated 2,000 manufacturing jobs in the area. The move was likely prompted by the generous tax breaks offered by state and local governments. Polaris is projected to receive approximately $80 million in tax breaks from the city of Huntsville and state of Alabama upon completion and staffing of the facility. The announcement comes several years after the company was criticized for downsizing its plant in Osceola, Wisconsin and building a new facility in Monterrey, Mexico for approximately $150 million.
  • Caterpillar; Total jobs reshored: 2,100; States benefiting: Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Texas; Industry: Construction & farm machinery; Headquarters: Peoria, Illinois; According to the Reshoring Initiative, over the last several years construction equipment manufacturer Caterpillar has announced reshoring projects that will target facilities in Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, and Texas, and will add or retain an estimated 2,100 U.S. manufacturing jobs. In 2012, Caterpillar opened a new facility in Victoria, Texas with an initial investment of $200 million in an effort to shift production of its hydraulic excavators from Akashi, Japan to the U.S. In August 2015, Caterpillar announced plans to expand employment at its Victoria facility, moving its vocational truck manufacturing operations from Mexico to the Texas location.
  • Whirlpool; Total jobs reshored: 2,165; States benefiting: Ohio; Industry: Electronics, electrical equipment; Headquarters: Benton Harbor, Michigan; Since 2010, Whirlpool has announced several efforts to consolidate its overseas operations within the U.S. that will add up to an estimated 2,165 reshored jobs for domestic manufacturing workers. Most recently, in January 2018 Whirlpool announced it would be adding 200 full-time employees to its facility in Clyde, Ohio. The news came shortly after the Trump Administration announced safeguard tariffs on large imported residential washing machines, a move projected to reduce import competition from Whirlpool rivals Samsung Electronics and LG Electronics.
  • General Electric; Total jobs reshored: 2,656; States benefiting: Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Kentucky, North Carolina, New York, Ohio
    Industry: Industrial machinery; Headquarters: Boston, Massachusetts; Since 2010, General Electric has announced domestic capital investments that are projected to add approximately 2,700 jobs to the U.S. manufacturing workforce. Much of the reshoring efforts are based around Appliance Park, a newly renovated production facility in Louisville, Kentucky, and shifting the production of bottom-mounted refrigerators and front-load washing machines from China and Mexico to the U.S. According to GE, reasons for the move include lower transportation costs, a more qualified workforce, and significant tax incentives by state and local governments.
  • Dow Chemical; Total jobs reshored: 2,900; States benefiting: Louisiana, Michigan, Texas; Industry: Chemicals; Headquarters: Midland, Michigan; In March 2015, Dow Chemical announced plans to invest $6 billion in its manufacturing plants in Texas and Louisiana in an effort to capitalize on lower domestic natural gas prices. According to a Dow executive, the increase in U.S. fracking activity has created significant investment prospects for chemical producers in the United States that will pay off in the next several years. The Gulf Coast reshoring effort is largely focused on the production of ethylene, propylene, and chemical derivatives used in packaging. The company’s reshoring efforts announced over the past several years are projected to retain or add approximately 2,900 manufacturing jobs to the U.S.
  • Intel; Total jobs reshored: 4,000; States benefiting: Arizona, California, Oregon; Industry: Semiconductors & other electronic components; Headquarters: Santa Clara, California; In 2011, Intel announced plans to hire 4,000 U.S. workers and build a $5 billion microprocessor plant in Chandler, Arizona. Known as Fab 42, the plant will use the 7-nanometer production process and is projected to be the most advanced, high-volume microprocessor plant in the world. While the facility was completed in 2013, its opening was stalled for several years. In February 2017, however, Intel announced plans to open the facility with a total investment of $7 billion and the direct hiring of 3,000 high-tech, high-wage workers. The tech giant projects the plant will be completed in the next two to three years, and will indirectly lead to the creation of roughly 10,000 jobs throughout Arizona.
  • Ford; Total jobs reshored: 4,200; States benefiting: Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, New York; Industry: Motor vehicles & parts; Headquarters: Dearborn, Michigan; In January 2017, Ford announced plans to cancel the $1.6 billion expansion of its Mexico production facility, instead opting to expand operations at its Flat Rock, Michigan facility with a $700 million investment projected to create 700 jobs. Similar reshoring efforts by the U.S. auto giant have been announced over the past eight years, targeting facilities in Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, New York, and other parts of Michigan and totaling an estimated 4,200 new jobs for the domestic workforce. Like General Motors and Fiat Chrysler, Ford’s announcements were made amid pressure from the current administration to reduce investment overseas and increase capital investments in the U.S. manufacturing sector. While some analysts speculate the reshoring efforts are a response to the Trump administration’s push for domestic job creation, Ford representatives have noted that they were based on an initiative to expand its truck and S.U.V. model offerings for U.S. consumers, which was previously agreed to in a labor contract with the United Automobile Workers union.
  • Boeing; Total jobs reshored: 7,725; States benefiting: Missouri, Montana, South Carolina; Industry: Aerospace & defense; Headquarters: Chicago, Illinois;
    Over the past several years, Boeing has rapidly expanded its U.S. workforce at various manufacturing plants throughout the East Coast. Boeing began operations at a new plant in Charleston, South Carolina in 2011 that manufactures 787 Dreamliner planes. Boeing also recently moved parts of its production of the new 777X plane from overseas to its St. Louis facility. The first 777X is projected to be completed by December 2019. According to the Reshoring Initiative, since 2010 Boeing has announced plans to reshore approximately 8,000 jobs, the most of any U.S. company other than General Motors and Apple.
  • General Motors; Total jobs reshored: 12,988; States benefiting: Michigan, New York, Tennessee, Texas; Industry: Motor vehicles & parts; Headquarters: Detroit, Michigan; Over the past several years, General Motors has made several announcements regarding various reshoring efforts that will boost employment at its plants in Michigan, New York, Tennessee, and Texas. The largest announcement came January 2017, when GM made public its plans to add or retain 7,000 jobs in the U.S. over the next few years. One of the major reshoring projects will be the shifting of approximately 600 jobs from an axle production plant in Mexico to a new facility in Arlington, Texas. GM’s reshoring efforts announced since 2010 amount to roughly 13,000 jobs, the most of any U.S. company other than Apple.
  • Apple; Total jobs reshored: 22,200 jobs; States benefiting: Texas, TBD; Industry: Computers, office equipment; Headquarters: Cupertino, California; In January 2018, Apple announced plans to invest over $30 billion in capital expenditures in the U.S. over the next five years. As part of the investment, Apple is increasing its commitment to its Advanced Manufacturing Fund — used to invest in U.S. manufacturing companies and boost the domestic manufacturing sector — from $1 billion to $5 billion. The move is projected to create over 20,000 new jobs at Apple’s existing campuses and at a new office location which has yet to be announced. Apple’s job creation announcement comes amid criticism aimed at the company for its outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to China, and accusations that it has dodged U.S. taxes by keeping some $250 billion overseas. A March 2017 press release from Apple claims the company supports some 4.8 million jobs in China, compared to 2.0 million in the U.S.
  • SoftBank $50B
  • Exxon $20B
  • Hyundai $3.1B
  • Bayer AG $8B
  • Toyota $600M
  • LG $250M
  • Also, certain industries are integral to the security of the U.S.A (i.e. steel, aluminum, minerals, energy, food, technology, etc.). Several companies are bringing business and money back to the U.S.A.
  • Many companies have also cited Walmart’s pledge to buy $250 billion of American-made products between 2013 and 2023 as a primary reason for shifting operations to the United States. The pledge has reduced some of the risk of relocating production to the United States and has helped companies such as Element Electronics, which won a contract with Walmart shortly after opening a small flat-screen television plant in Michigan, make the decision to reshore.
  • Source: www.tcpalm.com/story/money/business/2018/06/28/manufacturers-bringing-most-jobs-back-to-america/36438051/
There are good reasons to return to the U.S.A., now that the corporate tax was lowered from 35% to 21% (nearer to the global average of about 20% for corporate taxes). A corporate tax rate of 35% was one of the highest corporate taxes in the world, and it was driving corporations and jobs out of the U.S. for decades.

One of the biggest problems is federal spending.
The more money the federal government gets, the more it spends.
Trump (17-OCT-2018) ordered a 5% spending cuts across all federal departments.
- Source: www.cnbc.com/2018/10/17/trump-pledges-to-cut-spending-as-deficits-rise-theres-a-lot-of-fat-in-there.html
I will believe it when I see the national debt actually shrinking, instead of growing every year since year 1957.
- Source: blog.josephscott.org/2009/03/26/presidents-that-have-reduced-the-federal-debt/

The following tax rate changes will likely be offset by increased GDP growth and corporations, money, and jobs returning to the U.S.:

  • 2017 ____ 2018-to-2025___single____________married
  • 10% _____ 10%________ $0-$9,525 _________$0-$19,050
  • 15% _____ 12%________ $9,525-$38,700_____$19,050-$77,400
  • 25% _____ 22%________ $38,700-$82,500____$77,400-$165,000
  • 28% _____ 24%________ $82,500-$157,500___$165,000-$315,000
  • 33% _____ 32%________ $157,500-$200,000__$315,000-$400,000
  • 33%-35% _ 35%________ $200,000-$500,000__$400,000-$600,000
  • 39.6% ____ 37%________ $500,000+ _________$600,000+
The percentages for the upper-income brackets were reduced 1%-to-2.4%, but 2%-to-4% for the lower brackets (how is that income tax cuts only for the rich?).

IF Democrats want to complain about unfair taxes, why don’t Democrats mention the 0%-to-15% capital gains tax, which is far below the 0%-to-39.6% taxes on wages (which is how Mitt Romney paid 15% on $21 Million, while a person making $40K per year is paying 32.7% (a higher percentage) in federal income, Social Security, and Medicare taxes)?

Democrats are predicting a blue-wave.

We’ll see on 6-NOV-2018, because it seems unlikely that so much hypocrisy, lack of message, a message of hatred, and condoning and resorting to so much violence (since 2016) is going to motivate voters; especially independent voters, who are the largest group (larger than the Democrat party, and larger than the Republican party) to vote for Democrats, when Democrats also want the following:

  • open borders;
  • another shamnesty like the one in 1989;
  • more sanctuary cities and states;
  • despicably pandering to illegal immigrants for votes and more representation in Congress; despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, and an attempt to turn red states to blue states, via massive and uncontrolled illegal immigration;
  • higher taxes;
  • a nanny-state with citizens increasingly dependent on the government;
  • massive cradle-to-grave government programs (which are usually severely mismanaged) that nurture a sense of entitlement and dependency on government;
  • to try to disguise envy and jealousy as demands for equality;
  • to reward failure and laziness; perpetuate the myth that we can somehow all live at the expense of everyone else; more and more government and control, which is already beyond nightmare proportions; socialism, in general;
  • to embrace “Guilty until proven innocent”.
  • to incite and encourage forcible and violent suppression of opposition (an element of fascism); i.e. encouragement (including, by Congress persons), and attacking Trump supporters;
… and many Democrats have encouraged incivility and violence:
  • Hillary Clinton said: “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, for what you care about,” … “That’s why I believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again,”
    - source: thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/410566-clinton-you-cant-be-civil-with-a-party-that-wants-to-destroy
  • former AG Eric Holder said: “When they go low, we kick them.”
    - source: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/11/eric_holder_when_they_go_low_we_kick_them.html
  • CA. Representative Maxine Waters said: “If you see anybody from the [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station — you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. Tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere!”
    - source: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/25/maxine_waters_god_is_on_our_side.html
  • NJ. Senator Cory Booker said: “Get in their face.”
    - source: insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/28/cory-booker-pleads-supporters-get-face-congresspeople
  • Barack Obama said: “Argue with neighbors, get in their face …”,)
    - source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90
  • Barack Obama said: “If they bring a knife, we bring a gun.”
    - source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90
  • more evidence of increased violence from the left since year 2016

Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 10:39 AM
Comment #433054

  • more evidence of increased violence from the left since year 2016
  • Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 10:41 AM
    Comment #433055
    I have never met anyone who was denied their vote

    Kctim, you say that like it means something. Being a right winger I am not surprised you haven’t meant anyone denied the right to vote, but that doesn’t prove anything.

    Here is an interesting read on voter suppression laws, very unbiased, for D. and kctim.
    perhaps you will better understand the issue at hand.

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 11:31 AM
    Comment #433056

    All those jobs but what is true? Apple made some claims but so far have they lived up to it? They employed over 4 million in China but only 47,000 here and many are retail jobs. But D. doesn’t care about facts just press releases from corporate America.
    https://www.npr.org/2012/03/06/148049517/how-many-u-s-jobs-does-apple-really-create

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 11:44 AM
    Comment #433057

    So as we continue with the big lie..er…um…conservative propaganda we see it is the left suppressing the vote…how funny D.. This earns you the Goebbels award for October. Keep telling the lie over and over your fellow conservatives already want to believe it.

    D. claims “While about 10 million people signed up for Obamacare in 2016, many millions more lost their doctors, their insurance plans, deductibles skyrocketed, premiums skyrocketed, costs skyrocketed, and the overall result was that the U.S. was now in a worse place than before Obamacare started.” But he has no backup, D. can you provide some reliable information that proves what you are saying is true? Then we can move on to more of your opinions.

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 11:51 AM
    Comment #433058

    It’s funny D. that you guys have such good news for us Americans yet you still have to stoop so low when it comes to campaigning for office. Why not stand on your record if it is so good?

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 11:58 AM
    Comment #433059

    I understand the issue just fine, J2. In fact, I doubt that you yourself have ever met an eligible voter who was denied the opportunity to vote.

    It is the individuals responsibility to ensure that they can vote when they go to the polls.
    For the lazy, irresponsible, and those where there has been a mistake, they have this: “When there is uncertainty about a voter’s eligibility—the potential voter’s name is not on the voter rolls, a required identification document isn’t available or other issues—the election official is required to offer the voter a provisional ballot instead of a regular ballot.”

    So, without all the excuses and conspiracy theories, do you see a blue wave coming?

    Posted by: kctim at October 19, 2018 12:40 PM
    Comment #433061
    j2t2 wrote: All those jobs but what is true? Apple made some claims but so far have they lived up to it? They employed over 4 million in China but only 47,000 here and many are retail jobs. But D. doesn’t care about facts just press releases from corporate America. - www.npr.org/2012/03/06/148049517/how-many-u-s-jobs-does-apple-really-create
    j2t2, try as you might, you repeatedly fail, and miserably.

    The article you linked to was from 06-MAR-2012.
    Trump did not take office until JAN-2017 (almost 4 years, and 9 months later).

    Good try, but those sort of sneaky tactics simply damages your credibility further, which is already in the toilet.

    j2t2 wrote: But he has no backup, D. can you provide some reliable information that proves what you are saying is true [i.e. worse off after Obamacare]?
    Sure. No problem. More proof that you don’t have a clue:
    • 5 years later, Obamacare failed on 4 important metrics (cost, coverage, competition, and choice): - Source: https://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/commentary/are-we-better-now-five-years-obamacare
    • fewer health insurance providers, and none in some counties; - Source: time.com/money/4503325/obama-health-care-costs-obamacare/
    • Five years later, it is clear that Obamacare failed: - Source: www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2015/03/23/obamacare-at-five-years-old-a-disappointment/#25d817506ad2
    • My own personal experience has been deductibles that trippled, the max-out-of-pocket doubled, and the annual premiums trippled (but on the upside, I have coverage for things I don’t need).

    Of course, reality doesn’t matter to j2t2.
    In fact, I am betting that you will somehow blame the failure on Republicans? Right?
    Which all makes me wonder IF j2t2 might actually be a shill-writer on this blog (it has happened in the past), who is actually trying to stir up opposing arguments,
    because it is hard to believe anyone can be so detached from reality ?

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 12:51 PM
    Comment #433062
    j2t2 wrote: It’s funny D. that you guys have such good news for us Americans yet you still have to stoop so low when it comes to campaigning for office. Why not stand on your record if it is so good?
    There are dirty tricks, and violence on all sides.

    However, since 2016, Democrats are worse, and since they have nothing to run on, they resort to encouraging and engaging in violence against Trump supporters, and Republicans.
    For example:

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 1:17 PM
    Comment #433063

    No really it isn’t fascism it’s conservatism

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 1:24 PM
    Comment #433064

    Ooops forgot the link No really it isn’t fascism it’s conservatism

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 1:32 PM
    Comment #433065

    wow it won’t let me link.

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 1:35 PM
    Comment #433066

    You are not being allowed to post links?
    I guess it is a right-wing conspiracy against you, eh?

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 1:38 PM
    Comment #433067

    “Which all makes me wonder IF j2t2 might actually be a shill-writer on this blog…”

    d.a.n., I too have wondered about j2t2. Could he be a Russian Bot?

    Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2018 2:50 PM
    Comment #433068

    It is important to note that the Supreme Court has never struck down a voting district as a partisan (not racial) gerrymander.

    Numerous challenges to “partisan” gerrymandering have reached the Supreme Court. None have been upheld.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2018 3:07 PM
    Comment #433074

    Royal Flush,

    Thanks, that’s good to know.
    I did not know none of the gerrymandering challenges were successful.

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 5:06 PM
    Comment #433075

    I wanted to know if any “partisan” gerrymandering challenges had been upheld by the supreme court d.a.n.; so I did an extensive google search. None were found. On the challenges heard by the court were many interesting comments by individual justices.

    Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2018 5:15 PM
    Comment #433076
    j2t2 wrote: No really it isn’t fascism[,] it’s conservatism.

    So, j2t2 is now equating “conservatism” to “fascism” ?

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 5:17 PM
    Comment #433077

    gerrymandering and the SCOTUS part 1

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 5:36 PM
    Comment #433078
    I guess it is a right-wing conspiracy against you, eh?

    D. a conspiracy! only a conservative would come up with that. Must be the Clintons huh? Probably human error or computer/internet/software glitch.
    You tell me conservative or fascist

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 5:43 PM
    Comment #433079
    d.a.n., I too have wondered about j2t2. Could he be a Russian Bot?

    Well lets put it to the test Royal, according to the feds “Federal prosecutors, who said they received “exceptional cooperation” from Facebook and Twitter, said the campaign focused on “a wide variety of topics, including immigration, gun control and the Second Amendment, the Confederate flag, race relations, LGBT issues, the Women’s March, and the NFL national anthem debate.””
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/midterms-russian-interference_us_5bca231be4b0d38b5877e5f3


    So whatta think?

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 5:50 PM
    Comment #433081
    So, without all the excuses and conspiracy theories, do you see a blue wave coming?

    Without excuses? what excuses? Without conspiracy theories what do the repubs have? In that case yes more dems win, a wave probably. But because the right is shoulders deep in conspiracy theories it will be much closer.

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2018 6:04 PM
    Comment #433082

    j2t2, what was your conclusion after reading the article you linked on gerrymandering?

    Did you link the “russian” article to indicate you are a bot j2t2?

    Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2018 6:08 PM
    Comment #433084

    j2t2 , R2D2 , Bot2Virus2,

    Whichever.
    I think j2t2 is a bot, because of the circular logic, bad and invalid links that don’t support bot’s arguments, lack of intelligible research since that would require a human, and the bot must be stuck in an infinite loop written for fascism:

      j2t2 discussing politics:
    • (1) j2t2: You are brain-washed by right-wing propaganda machine.
    • (2) Other person: No.
    • (3) j2t2: Republicans do all of the Gerrymandering.
    • (4) Other person: No.
    • (5) j2t2: You are a fascist (incorrectly programmed as fascist = conservative).
    • (6) Other person: No.
    • (7) Return to Step (1).
    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 7:24 PM
    Comment #433085

    The link that j2t2 provided did not show any case in which district boundaries were over-turned. The article merely said “that states can try to remove partisan politics from the process of drawing political maps.” (see below)

    j2t2’s link contains the following:

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can try to remove partisan politics from the process of drawing political maps.

    The decision was a victory for the proponents of independent commissions and a blow for state lawmakers who did not want to be drawn out of the process.

    Voters in seven states — Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, New Jersey and Washington — have turned to such commissions in an effort to reduce political “gerrymandering,” the map-drawing method that leads to districts easily won by Democrats or Republicans.

    Arizona’s Republican legislators challenged the law by citing the specific wording of the Constitution. It instructs that “the times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.”

    However, no where in the article (above) does it state that the Supreme Court overturned any case in which the boundaries drawn were Gerrymandered by Democrats or Republicans?

    So, j2t2 (again) fails by using articles that don’t prove anything.
    Perhaps the programmers of the j2t2 Bot need to work out some of these glaring programming bugs and flaws in logic?

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 7:38 PM
    Comment #433087

    Texas Voter Fraud Ring Busted, Slapped with Nearly 30 Felony Charges:

    The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported that Sanchez and Tepichin are accused of requesting “ballots by mail for the Democratic Party for 2016 elections for 13 people who had made no such requests.”

    - Source: https://www.westernjournal.com/texas-voter-fraud-ring-busted-slapped-nearly-30-felony-charges/?ff_source=Email&ff_medium=WJBreaking&ff_campaign=breaking&ff_content=western-journal

    Let’s see if the j2t2 Bot identifies these violators as actually being victims of “voter suppression”?

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 19, 2018 7:55 PM
    Comment #433132
    j2t2, what was your conclusion after reading the article you linked on gerrymandering?

    Conclusion Royal? It was an article that showed what different states are doing, in response to Weary’s comment #433052.

    Hence part1, so don’t get so riled up guys. Look there seems to be two different issues being discussed here. Weary has actually addressed the issue while Royal and D. want to deflect with red herrings and strawman arguments.

    But hey while we are on this subject why the red herring on the SCOTUS? Are you suggesting the conservative activist on the SCOTUS would actually over turn a decision that favors repubs gerrymandering?

    D. such a foolish comment “Let’s see if the j2t2 Bot identifies these violators as actually being victims of “voter suppression”, you are letting your hatred get the best of you. But answer me this would the voter ID laws have prevented this case of fraud?

    BTW D., Here is your right wing peace peaceniks and one of the reasons you have been conditioned to bark about the violence on the left!

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 21, 2018 12:05 AM
    Comment #433133

    D. seems your side is continuing to be as violent as they have been for years, can we add this to your list?

    Kctim, when repubs actively participate does that mean the street gang you claim is far fringe right wing is not so fringe?

    Posted by: j2t2 at October 21, 2018 12:32 AM
    Comment #433141
    j2t2 bot wrote: D. such a foolish comment …
    • d.a.n wrote: “Let’s see if the j2t2 Bot identifies these violators as actually being victims of “voter suppression”
    j2t2 bot wrote:… , you are letting your hatred get the best of you.
    I only asked a question, and I am not the one calling everyone fascists, Nazis and racists like the j2t2 bot does (repeatedly).
    j2t2 bot wrote: BTW D., Here is your right wing peace peaceniks and one of the reasons you have been conditioned to bark about the violence on the left! D. seems your side is continuing to be as violent as they have been for years, can we add this to your list?
    Anyone committing violence is not on my side.

    There is no shortage of violence on all sides.
    However, since year 2016, the vast majority of violence and mob-like behavior is from Democrats and some on the left, because the left has no messsage, and the left runs around like the j2t2 Bot, calling everyone they disagree with:

    • racists! fascists! and Nazis! OH My!

    Democrats and the left are out of control, and many in the Democrat leadership are encouraging mob behavior:

    • Hillary Clinton said: “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, for what you care about,” … “That’s why I believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again,”
      - source: thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/410566-clinton-you-cant-be-civil-with-a-party-that-wants-to-destroy
    • former AG Eric Holder said: “When they go low, we kick them.”
      • source: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/11/eric_holder_when_they_go_low_we_kick_them.html
    • CA. Representative Maxine Waters said: “If you see anybody from the [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station — you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. Tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere!”
      • source: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/25/maxine_waters_god_is_on_our_side.html
    • NJ. Senator Cory Booker said: “Get in their face.”
        source: insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/28/cory-booker-pleads-supporters-get-face-congresspeople
    • Barack Obama said: “Argue with neighbors, get in their face …”,)
        source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90
    • Barack Obama said: “If they bring a knife, we bring a gun.”
        source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90
    • Nanci Pelosi condones “collateral damage” to those that disagree with Democrats:
    • More examples of hate and mob behavior from the left:
    • Antifa protester in Portland,Oregon tells 9/11 NYPD widow “YOUR HUSBAND SHOULD FUC*ING ROT IN THE GRAVE”;
    • Rosie O’Donnell spewing hate: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2aG1opJXs
    • More hate and mob-like behavior from the left:
      • www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-acts-of-media-approved-violence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 21, 2018 11:07 AM
    Comment #433142

    This is the state of the Democrat Party (see video).

    Wonder how that’s going to work out on 06-NOV-2018.
    I will be going to early voting tomorrow, and I will not be voting for Democrats, because Democrats want:

    • open borders; more illegal immigration;
    • another shamnesty like the one in 1989 (which quadrupled the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S.);
    • more sanctuary cities and states (despite $297 Billion in net annaul losses due to illegal immigration);
    • to despicably pander to illegal immigrants for votes and more representation in Congress; despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, and attempting to turn red states to blue states, via massive and uncontrolled illegal immigration;
    • to raise taxes;
    • a nanny-state with citizens increasingly dependent on the government;
    • more massive cradle-to-grave government programs (which are usually severely mismanaged) that nurture a sense of entitlement and dependency on government;
    • to disguise their envy and jealousy as demands for equality;
    • reward failure and laziness; and perpetuate the myth that we can somehow all live at the expense of everyone else; Democrats want more government and control, which is already beyond nightmare proportions; socialism, in general;
    • to embrace “Guilty until proven innocent”; then end of rule-of-law;
    • to incite and encourage forcible and violent suppression of opposition (an element of fascism).

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 21, 2018 11:29 AM
    Comment #433173

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    Posted by: sonam kumari at October 22, 2018 5:41 AM
    Comment #433176

    J2,
    What excuses? Gerrymandering. Minorities are to dumb to get voter ID. The right is shoulders deep in conspiracy theories.

    “Without conspiracy theories what do the repubs have?”

    Roaring economy. Record unemployment. An attempt to address our massive illegal alien problem.

    “when repubs actively participate does that mean the street gang you claim is far fringe right wing is not so fringe?”

    What street gang?

    If you’re asking if standing up to antifa and the racist blm makes normal people the ‘fringe,’ no.
    If you’re asking if adopting the tactics of antifa, the racist blm, and nutso leftists puts people on the fringe, probably so.

    Harassing, threatening and attacking people because of their political beliefs is wrong. If there wasn’t any antifa, racist blm or leftist extremist groups, it wouldn’t be happening.

    Posted by: kctim at October 22, 2018 8:06 AM
    Comment #433233

    I voted early, and I voted straight ticket Republican.
    There is no way I can vote for Democrats, because a vote for Demorats is a vote for following: http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010164.html#433142

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 23, 2018 6:52 PM
    Comment #433293

    Thanks for the reply and link, j2t2. I didn’t realize it was a response to my proposal.

    One thing that struck me as peculiar was one person’s comment where he considers the varying IDs between the different states being an impediment to voting. I don’t see that as a legitimate argument. I have no idea how someone with a state ID different than their own resident state affects their ability to vote. Why would someone try to vote using an ID from a different state? That makes no sense.

    Some of the argument were prefaced with a reason the existing laws are necessary and beneficial. Only after the legitimate reason for the law was stated did they give a reason why it shouldn’t be. That sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    I was more concerned with comments on my proposal, not complaints about the current situation.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at October 24, 2018 4:58 PM
    Comment #433303

    Weary Willie,
    I think the current apportionment of House representatives (and electoral votes) is OK, with one exception:

    • Since apportionment of House representatives (and electoral votes) is based on population, which is based on the Every-10-Year CENSUS, only U.S. citizens should be counted.

    Unfortunately, the Democrats have (despicably) been promoting open-borders and pandering to illegal immigrants (with promises of citizenship, amnesty, free welfare, free healthcare, free education, free food stamps, free housing, drivers licenses, etc., etc., etc) for decades, to use massive illegal immigration to acquire power, via more representatives in the House, based on state populations, via re-apportionment of representatives based on population, which is based on the Every-10-Year-CENSUS (which does not verify citizenship).

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 24, 2018 8:46 PM
    Comment #433310

    d.a.n
    When determining the number of representatives out of a fixed quantity(435), which state loses a seat if another state gains one?

    https://history.house.gov/Institution/Apportionment/state_apportionment/

    Most states are losing representatives since 1910. The loss is being given to a very few states. Less than 10 states have gained seats since 1910 at the expense of almost every other state. Did the majority of states lose population? I don’t think so.

    It seems the law passed to limit the number of representatives to a total of 435 seats comes at the expense of a majority of states and has been favoring a very few.


    Posted by: Weary Willie at October 24, 2018 11:13 PM
    Comment #433311

    https://population.us/

    Posted by: Weary Willie at October 24, 2018 11:29 PM
    Comment #433360

    Weary Willie,

    So, you may be correct. A better method may be needed, because the population per electoral vote is very skewed (see below).
    For example, the current population per electoral vote is as follows (the 4 most populous states have the least representation) as of year 2010:

    • STATE and Population per Electoral Vote:
    • Texas 745,000
    • Florida 695,000
    • California 675,000
    • Georgia 650,000
    • Arizona 641,000
    • North Carolina 640,000
    • New York 625,000
    • Virginia 610,000
    • Washington 607,000
    • Illinois 605,000
    • Pennsylvania 602,000
    • Indiana 590,000
    • New Jersey 583,000
    • Michigan 580,000
    • South Carolina 580,000
    • Ohio 580,000
    • Tennessee 580,000
    • Maryland 580,000
    • Wisconsin 570,000
    • Colorado 565,000
    • Massachussetts 550,000
    • Oregon 550,000
    • Missouri 550,000
    • Utah 550,000
    • Kentucky 545,000
    • Nevada 545,000
    • Oklahoma 535,000
    • Minnesota 535,000
    • Alabama 530,000
    • Connecticut 505,000
    • Louisiana 501,000
    • Mississippi 495,000
    • Arkansas 490,000
    • Kansas 475,000
    • Iowa 435,000
    • New Mexico 405,000
    • Idaho 395,000
    • West Virginia 375,000
    • Nebraska 370,000
    • Hawaii 340,000
    • Maine 335,000
    • Montana 333,000
    • New Hampshire 332,000
    • Rhode Island 260,000
    • Delaware 300,000
    • South Dakota 275,000
    • Alaska 235,000
    • North Dakota 225,000
    • Vermont 203,000
    • District of Columbia 200,000
    • Wyoming 190,000
    Electoral votes are allocated among the states based on the Every-10-Year-CENSUS.
    Currently, the total is fixed at 538 electoral votes.
    Every state is allocated a number of votes equal to the number of senators and representatives in its U.S. Congressional delegation; there are 2 votes for the 2 senators in each state, plus a number of votes equal to the number of its members in the U. S. House of Representatives.
    The number of representatives in the House of Representatives can vary, depending on the population of each state.
    NOTE: The CENSUS does not verify citizenship. As a result, sanctuary states and states with sanctuary cities have an unfair advantage.

    State and Number_of_Electoral_Votes (as of 10-DEC-2010, and effective for the 2012, 2016, and 2020 presidential elections):

    • California 55
    • Texas 38
    • Florida 29
    • New York 29
    • Pennsylvania 20
    • Illinois 20
    • Ohio 18
    • Georgia 16
    • Michigan 16
    • North Carolina 15
    • New Jersey 14
    • Virginia 13
    • Washington 12
    • Arizona 11
    • Indiana 11
    • Massachusetts 11
    • Tennessee 11
    • Wisconsin 10
    • Maryland 10
    • Minnesota 10
    • Missouri 10
    • South Carolina 9
    • Alabama 9
    • Colorado 9
    • Kentucky 8
    • Louisiana 8
    • Connecticut 7
    • Oklahoma 7
    • Oregon 7
    • Iowa 6
    • Utah 6
    • Arkansas 6
    • Kansas 6
    • Mississippi 6
    • Nevada 6
    • Nebraska 5
    • West Virginia 5
    • New Mexico 5
    • Hawaii 4
    • Rhode Island 4
    • Idaho 4
    • New Hampshire 4
    • Maine 4
    • Montana 3
    • Delaware 3
    • South Dakota 3
    • Alaska 3
    • North Dakota 3
    • Vermont 3
    • District of Columbia 3
    • Wyoming 3
    12 electoral votes changed between 18 states, based on the 2010 CENSUS.

    The U.S. population is currently about 330 Million.

    Here is a history of the chages in the number of electoral votes by year (from 1788-to-2004):

    I read your suggestion (http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/010164.html#433052) for selecting representatives.
    However, one issue with your 7 representatives example is that all 7 could be from one large city in the state, and that may not represent the vast majority of the state.

    Based on the lists above, the current electoral system doesn’t seem fair at all, based on population per electoral vote.
    Gerrymandering cannot fix the vast differences in population per electoral vote.
    Texas has the smallest represenation, because it has the greatest population per electoral vote.
    California has a smaller population per eletoral than Texas and Florida.
    But California also has the largest population of illegal immigrants, and the CENSUS does not verify citizenship.

    Currently, in most cases, a state’s district lines (for both state legislative and congressional districts) are re-drawn by the state legislature, and the majority party controls the process. Some states require bi-partisan or non-partisan commissions to oversee the line-drawing.

    Therefore, one most simple to reduce Gerrymandering may be to require bi-partisan (or multi-partisan) commissions to oversee the line-drawing?

    So, it appears that the significantly skewed population per eletoral vote is the biggest problem with the electoral system, and that needs some serious work to make the population-per-electoral vote more equal for all states (i.e. Texas has one electoral vote per 745,000 people, but Vermont one electoral vote per 203,000 people, which seems very unfair to Texas).

    Posted by: d.a.n at October 25, 2018 11:09 AM
    Comment #433460

    It seems to be very unfair.

    One solution, which is already tried and true, is to repeal the law fixing the population of the HOR at 435. It seems to be a law passed simply for convenience.

    The original procedure for populating the HOR worked for over a hundred years. Why was it changed? What value has it added? It may very well, based on the accumulated data, be an attempt to concentrate representation in the most populated states. Considering the time frame the law was passed, the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, the 16th and 17th amendments, the rise of the Progressive movement, and Wilson’s fantasy of the U.S. being a democracy instead of a republic, the passage of this law could be just one more attempt among many to put the final nail in the republic’s coffin.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at October 26, 2018 11:54 AM
    Comment #433462

    I think we would have a much different federal government if the HOR’s representatives were numbered via the original concept put forth in the constitution of one rep per 30,000 people.

    In my state, counties were laid out based on how far a person could travel by horesback in one day to the county seat. To have representation based on a horseback ride seems antiquated to me.

    There’s a lot of things that could be different in our federal government. Most of the changes throughout the 20th century seem to be failing their intended purpose. I fail to see the reason why the house should be limited to 435 representatives, unless it is to do precisely what it is doing, reassigning reps to certain states who just happen to lean left.

    Posted by: Weary Willie at October 26, 2018 12:27 PM
    Comment #433629

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