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Who Leaked Cohen Supposedly Saying That Trump & Donald Jr. Lied About Trump Tower Meeting?

What is Lanny Davis up to? Michael Cohen’s lawyer - who was Bill Clinton’s fixer back in the 90’s when there was a lot that needed fixing as far as President Clinton was concerned - is for the moment presenting a doe-eyed innocent profile as far as the latest leak from Michael Cohen’s camp is concerned.

At least, the leak was likely from Cohen's camp, but who knows? The breaking story is that then-Candidate Trump was previously informed by Donald Jr. of the proposed meeting to discuss possible opposition research on Hillary that the Russians seemed to have. That is, he knew and approved of the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya whose main objective it turned out was to press for overturning the sanctions in the Magnitsky Act.

There might have been more than just that objective. Given the behavior of people like Stefan Halper and Professor Mifsud during 2016, it may be that Veselnitskaya was just one of a series of meetings that were intended as a sort of entrapment scheme to portray Trump and his campaign team as willing and eager to obtain information on Hillary Clinton from Russian sources. It may be, but to prove such a scheme would require compelling evidence of motives and logistics that one suspects will never be fully revealed.

But it's never to late to stop trying to make that entrapment scheme somehow work.

If Cohen is telling the truth and Trump knew beforehand of a meeting with a Russian lawyer who claimed to have "dirt" on Hillary, then the President will have been guilty of lying. If there is further evidence. The leak however - and this is a leak mind you - hints that Cohen has no tape or other hard evidence to back up his claim that he was present when Trump approved of Donald Jr. taking the meeting. That means it would be a he says/No, he says situation. Politically uncomfortable for the President, but legally meaningless.

However, if somehow Mueller's team has some other evidence that somehow corroborates with Cohen's latest claim, that could provide ammunition to perhaps proceed with some sort of charge. But that's hardly the case right now.

So what is Lanny Davis up to when he says:

Donald Trump Jr. has been professional and responsible throughout the Mueller and Congressional investigations. We are very confident of the accuracy and reliability of the information that has been provided by Mr. Trump, Jr., and on his behalf.

It doesn't really matter what you say about Donald Jr. if your client may be about to provide Mueller with a statement that calls both Donald Jr. and President Trump liars. It's hard to say what kind of gaslighting Davis is up to, but the real player in this latest twist is Mueller himself and his prosecutors.

The question is: will Mueller's team now call Donald Jr. in for questioning? Will they use him as bait to try and prove some sort of campaign violation? Or do they think that the Trump Tower meeting will finally yield a payoff for the probe?

None of this proves any sort of collusion at all as a result of a meeting that was at the very least based on a false premise and in addition, was possibly an attempt at entrapment. But that won't stop Mueller's team from squeezing every last little leak possible from the Trump Tower meeting.

Posted by AllardK at July 27, 2018 1:20 PM
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Why would anyone bother to speculate about speculation?

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 27, 2018 2:20 PM
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So many liars. So many lying criminals- Flynn, Gates, Manafort, and more. Perhaps no one was closer to Trump than Cohen. Both Trump and Cohen are serial liars. Both have vouched for each other in the past. So who is lying about this?

Shortly before the Trump Tower meeting, Donald Trump Jr. talked to a Russian about it, called someone- a blocked number- and then called the Russian back. The blocked number is likely Trump, who has a blocked number.

Two days before the meeting, Trump said he would have a major announcement about Hillary Clinton the following Monday.

Later, when news came out about the meeting, Donald Trump Jr. and Donald Trump lied about it. That shows consciousness of guilt, a fundamental requirement for an Obstruction of Justice charge.

There should really be no doubt about the origin of this story. Cohen has flipped and he is working with both the Mueller probe AND the SDNY. The SDNY is probably acting as Mueller’s proxy, using Cohen to undermine Trump in the sphere of public opinion.

Posted by: phx8 at July 27, 2018 3:47 PM
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WOW…what giant leaps of logic for our Pal phx8. I suggest he try out for track. With his “leaping” ability, we could watch him in the Olympics.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 27, 2018 4:06 PM
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Trump is the only person with a blocked number?!

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 28, 2018 9:56 AM
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Three days before the Trump Tower meeting, Trump Jr talked with a Russian, Emin Agalarov, and then spoke with someone at a blocked number for four minutes, and then spoke with Agalarov again. Trump Jr claims he can not remember who he spoke with in between conversations with Agalarov. During closed door testimony Republicans refused to subpoena the information on that phone call to the blocked number.

The good news is that Mueller will almost certainly obtain that information.

The next day, Trump said: “I am going to give a major speech on probably Monday of next week and we’re going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons. I think you’re going to find it very informative and very, very interesting.”

According to Cohen, he witnessed Trump approving of the meeting.

Trump was in Trump Tower the day of the meeting, one floor above where it took place.

According to Steve Bannon, there was “zero” chance Trump did not meet with the Russians that day.

Posted by: phx8 at July 28, 2018 1:05 PM
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I’m still trying to figure out what the big deal is.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 28, 2018 3:42 PM
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Please tell us when the next installment of your “serial” fantasy will be available phx8.

Actually, what you write is meaningless when taken out of context. We don’t pay any attention to it. It says nothing. It proves nothing. It means nothing.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 28, 2018 5:18 PM
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I found this quote interesting as it attempts to explain a quandary.

In an interview with “National Review”, Sir Roger Scruton, celebrated philosopher, was asked;

“Why do many on the left consider conservatism to be inherently evil (rather than cuddly)?”

SRS: The principal reason is that people on the left have illusions about human nature and think they prove their virtue by broadcasting those illusions. Anyone who punctures those illusions is therefore not just a spoilsport but a threat. What the self-declared “virtue” of the left amounts to can be witnessed in what happens to ordinary humanity when the left takes power.”

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