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Article 4, Section 4 of the constitution says the federal government must insure any state accepted into the union must provide it’s citizens with a republic form of government.

That republic can govern as a socialist republic if it wants to. More power to them.

The constitution doesn't say the federal government must be a socialist republic, or a democratic republic, or a fascist republic. That's all up to our elected officials to decide.

On the federal level it must be decided by the Article 5 amendment process.

Bernie Sanders can be a socialist and promote socialist goals if he so chooses as long as he uses a republic government with which to carry them out. Socialists can promote a socialist republic. Socialists can even install it as our new American way of life, the new American Dream, if they want to, but they're going to have to repeal most of the Bill of Rights. They're going to have to repeal the Federal Reserve Act. They're going to have to neuter or abolish State and Local governments.

In other words, Bernie Sanders supporters haven't got a clue as to what they're asking for. They're like a kid in a candy shop right now, and they think Mom has a money tree growing in her pocket. If the socialists take control and try to institute any of the programs they believe in, they are going to come up against a rock hard wall called reality.

The Left's fantasy meeting the cold hard reality of the U.S. Constitution is where wars are born. Elections are where wars are avoided. I can't believe the left will push it. They can't. Their position isn't defined in the constitution. The left's position is only tolerated by the courts. The left can't support it's position, because the left's position is built on opinion and assumption instead of what is defined as the government's right in the constitution.

The left ignored how the federal government should operate. The left redefined how the federal government operates. The left did it on their own instead of going through the legitimate amendment process to change the rights of the federal government. Trump can change it the same way the left changed it, except he can change it the right way, the legal way, and guarantee the left can't make assumptions and demands outside the scope of the federal government, on it's own, again.

Trump's fight is getting the congress he needs. If he doesn't, he's done. If he does, and he serves his 8 years and then another battle must be fought for the next 8 years, and the next 8 years. It must be fought again and again to defeat the left because they don't give up, and neither shall we.

For far too long the right has taken a back seat to the left's ideology. We've let their will be forced upon us without knowing how to fight back. We've been too polite, I guess, considering what progress Trump has made being a jerk.

I'm ready to fight for the Right! The time is right. Our goal is right. Our methods are right. We're right! Let's make it right!

Posted by Weary_Willie at July 24, 2018 9:24 PM
Comment #429434

Good post Weary.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 25, 2018 3:25 PM
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Here’s an article by a Liberal that our pals phx8 and j2t2 may find interesting. I have written the same thing, but now that a liberal writes it, it may make a difference.

Even Liberals Say Trump is Tough on Russia

“So let me just make two points. Number one is, if you look at President Obama versus President Trump, there’s no question that President Obama was more cooperative with and collaborative with Russia and the Russian agenda than President Trump. President Trump has sent lethal arms to Ukraine—a crucial issue for Putin—which President Obama refused to do. President Trump has bombed the Assad forces in Syria, a client state of Putin, something that Obama refused to do because he didn’t want to provoke Putin. Trump has expelled more Russian diplomats and sanctioned more Russian oligarchs than [Obama] has. Trump undid the Iran deal, which Russia favored, while Obama worked with Russia in order to do the Iran deal. So this idea that Trump is some kind of a puppet of Putin, that he controls him with blackmail, is the kind of stuff that you believe if you read too many Tom Clancy novels, but isn’t borne out by the facts.”

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 25, 2018 6:54 PM
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Liberals will probably excommunicate the guy and never let him work again, or they will recognize him and beat the shit out of him on the street.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 25, 2018 8:30 PM
Comment #429444

The dims lied to cover up Clinton’s communications security breach.

The dims lied in using fake/false information, paid for by Hillary and the DNC, in obtaining a FISA warrant to go after the Trump campaign.

The dims lied in accusing Trump of ‘obstruction’ with the intent to impeach.

This is the greatest assault on the U. S. Constitution in the history of the country.

The dim party should be absolved as a political party.

Hillary was given a pass for her breach of communications security.

The Obama admin used op research information purchased by Hillary/DNC, for a FISA warrant to open a special counsel investigation into the opposing political party.

Numerous Obama admin dept heads have conspired to remove Trump thru impeachment, accussing him of collusion and obstruction of justice. Many have violated rules of holding a security clearance in propagandizing against political opponents.

The President is rightly pulling the security clearances held by several Obama officials.

Some have been forced to resign. More will follow.

The House has finally shown a little backbone and has started impeachment proceedings against Deputy DOJ, Rosenstein. Will the Senate follow thru? Doubt it - too many ‘deep state establishment/globalist; hanging on there.

The Mueller special counsel should be terminated immediately. He is interfering with US foreign policy as Trump can’t bring Putin in for a visit until Mueller has left the scene. Any/all Mueller findings should be absolved/nullified.

and so on …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 25, 2018 9:43 PM
Comment #429474

Right you are, WW. The GOP seldom fights back or stands up to the dims. At this point the dim party is nothing more than a bunch of rabble rousers. They have no organization, no policy initiatives. All we see is Schumer and his note taker standing alone on the Senate floor talking to an empty room.

They bitch about every move conservatives make. They attack every word coming out of Trump’s mouth.

Like Trump makes aid available to farmers during his trade negotiations. The dims bitch about it but never a word about how much they spend on illegals living in this country, their aid, their health care, their education and so on …

I was totally surprised that the GOP took the unusual step of investigating some of the FBI conspirators.

It’s Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan and a dozen or so other Gop’er’s who are willing to push back against the dims. The rest of the GOP is hoping Trump gets impeached.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 26, 2018 3:18 PM
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I do understand the angst of our Liberal Pals. With every success of President Trump, Obama is looking like an ever greater disaster.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 26, 2018 4:03 PM
Comment #429476

Has anyone seen that photo of a lady(pardon the term) squatting on the sidewalk and rubbing it on a Trump sign?

California is putting people in jail and fines for using straws, but find it perfectly reasonable to let people crap in the streets.

The left is going completely off the rails, and yes, I do think it is a product of the Obama administration and the Democratic’s overreach.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 26, 2018 4:15 PM
Comment #429477

I agree Weary. The Obama administration focused upon making America conform to international norms in both our economic life and social life.

In his opinion, America was too competitive, too economically and militarily strong, compared to the rest of the world. We needed to be brought down a few pegs.

He didn’t want a strong economy, lower unemployment, higher labor participation rate, or rising incomes. He publicly announced that he wanted to “fundamentally transform America”. And, that transformation included trashing our Bill of Rights.

He succeeded in adding more to our national debt than all the American presidents preceding him. And, we have little to show for the $10 Trillion squandered.

I recall discussing our Labor Force Participation Rate with Liberals during the last years of the Obama administration. Liberals were convinced that it was inevitable as more people were retiring early. Yet, less than two years under President Trump, and the participation rate is higher than ever.

Obama was a disaster for the working men and women of America. Obama was a disaster for race relations in America. Obama was simply…an American disaster.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 26, 2018 4:34 PM
Comment #429478

It goes to show the stark differences in ideologies. We went through a long night with the Obama administration. We actually went through a generation of darkness as far as governing this country goes. Trump came in and pulled back the curtain.

We have to remember though, he’s up against that entire generation of career politicians and bureaucrats that have an interest in keeping the status quo. I think Pruitt fell victim to that desperation. Trump had to run the government with the people he’s inherited. Just because he replaces the people at the top doesn’t mean they won’t be undermined by career subordinates.

The people have looked behind the curtain and they didn’t like what they saw. The media is unable to convince them otherwise. The Democratic party is doomed, even if they gain the house or senate. It is simply a matter of time. Their demise will come sooner than later if that horror story comes to pass. I don’t think it will happen though. Trump’s election proves the people aren’t going for the run of the mill, business as usual in D.C.

We still have to keep the heat on. We can’t just expect it to go our way in Nov. We have to make it happen again, and again, and again. Complacency isn’t a winning hand now, or ever.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 26, 2018 6:24 PM
Comment #429483

Cohen is willing to testify Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting held to obtain dirt on Hillary Clinton. Trump has repeatedly lied about this, at least 15 times. Cue up Obstruction of Justice charges. Donald Trump Jr. testified before Congress and lied about it.

Tough time for crooks and traitors, and those who support crooks and traitors.

Posted by: phx8 at July 26, 2018 9:36 PM
Comment #429505

I don’t see what is illegal about receiving information about a rival political candidate. What law is broken by meeting with someone with info on a political opponent?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 27, 2018 8:35 AM
Comment #429506

“The Federal Campaign Finance Law places legal limits on how much and what you can give. Certain individuals, businesses, and associations are prohibited from making contributions to federal candidates or political committees.

Besides checks and currency, the FEC considers “…anything of value given to influence a Federal election” to be a contribution.”

“Campaigns may not solicit or accept contributions from foreign nationals. Federal law prohibits contributions, donations, expenditures and disbursements solicited, directed, received or made directly or indirectly by or from foreign nationals in connection with any election — federal, state or local.”

In addition, it is illegal to accept anything stolen, such as e-mails.

Even planning to do it is illegal. That is known as ‘conspiracy.’

Depending on the circumstances, fraud may also enter into it.

Posted by: phx8 at July 27, 2018 9:00 AM
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” This does not include volunteer work. As long as you are not compensated for it, you can perform an unlimited amount of volunteer work. “

I don’t see the value a meeting has as far as campaign contributions go.

Are you willing to say Putin contributed to Trump’s campaign by meeting with him?

Why am I giving you ideas?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 27, 2018 9:37 AM
Comment #429508

Trump isn’t so bad

Posted by: j2t2 at July 27, 2018 10:02 AM
Comment #429509

“I talked to Putin, He says he didn’t do it”
Donald Trump

“I talked to Osama, He says he didn’t do it.”
George W Bush

“I talked to Lee Harvey, he says he didn’t do it”

“I talked to Dick, He says he didn’t do it”
Gerald Ford

“I talked to Adolph, He says he didn’t do it”
Winston Churchill

“I talked to Hinckly, He says he didn’t do it”
Ronald Reagan

I talked to Hirohito, He says he didn’t do it”

Posted by: j2t2 at July 27, 2018 10:44 AM
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Sorry bot Maria, but the left here on WB on stuck on confirmation bias, they have no room for ‘nonfiction writing that encourages careful word choice, the development of logical arguments, and a cohesive summary.’

Posted by: kctim at July 27, 2018 12:28 PM
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Our Liberal Pals are happy again. They now believe they have the “smoking gun”, the “final nail” to rid the nation of President Trump because of something, it is reported, his attorney has told Mueller regarding…OH MY…The RUSSIANS.

There will soon be a shortage of eggs as millions of Liberals always wake up a few days after the newest revelation with egg on their faces.

Meanwhile, in the real world, the economy is roaring. Working Americans love what Trump and Republicans have done to better their lives.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 27, 2018 2:14 PM
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“… the economy is roaring.”

Not exactly. This was a good 4th quarter GDP number (actually a little below expectations, but who cares?), and during the Obama years we saw four such quarters with even higher growth than the current one.

There is a fly in the ointment- tariffs. This quarter exports were unusually high in an effort to ship before the tariffs hit. Next quarter will see the opposite effect on GDP, with the current projection being 2.8%. Still good, as long as nothing else changes, like additional retaliatory rounds.

If nothing changes, the most popular truck in America, the F-150, will costs an additional $5200 for the exact same vehicle next quarter, due to tariffs. I’m guessing “Working Americans” will not be pleased.

The Trump administration was going to provide welfare to the farmers- mostly huge corporations- with $12 billion.
For now that may have fallen by the wayside. Be prepared for more changes, ranging from an end to the Trade War, to an acceleration.

Posted by: phx8 at July 27, 2018 3:18 PM
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I don’t intend to argue fact versus opinion with phx8.

“Not only is the average annual growth rate of just 1.48% during Obama’s business cycle the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949, he has just become the only President to have not had even one year of 3% GDP growth.

An average annual GDP growth of 1.48% during Obama’s two terms…

As a reminder to a few blinkered media types, this means President Obama’s “recovery” has officially been the worst recovery in US history (despite adding almost $10 trillion to the national debt)…”

“As for the remainder of Obama’s time in office, quarterly GDP growth averaged 2.0 percent, or 1.5 percent when averaging out annual figures.”

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 27, 2018 4:00 PM
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phx8, don’t you feel it? Don’t you sense it? It’s like a weight has been lifted. Why are you fighting it?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 27, 2018 7:36 PM
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The only thing that has changed is you. All those years when Obama was president, you lied about the economy. You pretended the numbers were made up. The GDP under Obama grew more than 4% many times:

5.1% Q2 2014
4.9% Q3 2014
4.7% Q4 2011
4.5% Q4 2009

Nothing has changed. The Obama administration saved the
American economy and spared all of us another Great Depression. Obama came into office with a shrinking GDP and 600,000 jobs being lost in one month alone. We faced deflation, a collapsed housing market, a collapsed financial sector, and a stock market crash.

The GOP & Trump inherited this economy. It is a good economy. The only significant changes by Trump have been the trade war and the tax cuts. The jump in exports this past quarter may reflect rushed shipping prior to tariffs taking effect. It is extremely unlikely exports will contribute that much again.

One interesting effect that virtually no one mentions- the tariffs are collected by the US Treasury. They may help offset the huge deficits caused by the tax cuts… Unless the administration turns around and bails out targeted industries with corporate welfare.

Posted by: phx8 at July 28, 2018 12:45 PM
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SO let me me get this straight we finally get one quarter where the GDP has went up by 4.1% and the foolish braggart is claiming victory! One month… due to the Chinese rushing to buy soy beans before the tariffs kick in and Trump and his chumps are bragging about it! Meanwhile the deficit is exploding and the tax cuts that were supposed to be the rocket fuel taking us to ever new heights is fizzling out!

Nothing truthful from the braggart on jobs or higher wages recently…why is that? Or more to the point why would a Trump chump say something like “Working Americans love what Trump and Republicans have done to better their lives.” when in fact wages are still stagnant and the jobs are not the coal or manufacturing jobs he promised?

“I talked to Trump, he says he didn’t do it”

“I talked to Donald, he says he didn’t do it”
Melania Trump

“I talked to Bill he said he didn’t do it”

I talked to God, He said he didn’t do it”
Mary, mother of Jesus

Posted by: j2t2 at July 28, 2018 4:48 PM
Comment #429571

” The only significant changes by Trump have been the trade war and the tax cuts.”

While these two are huge phx8, you missed a lot more changes. The unemployment rate has dropped to nearly historic levels. The Labor Force Participation Rate has risen dramatically. Unnecessary government regulations have been slashed. Americans once again have confidence in our economy and are spending money again.

All these positive changes have occurred phx8, despite the constant drumbeat of false and harmful media charges against President Trump.

We now find the Democrat Party beginning to embrace socialist policies as a party; not just among a few ignorant candidates.

I have listened to a few democrats running as socialists, and none of them ever, ever explain from where the money will come to fund all the government largess.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 28, 2018 5:10 PM
Comment #429572

I will not reply to anything j2t2 writes that denigrate God, Mary, or Jesus. It is a foolish person who scoffs at God.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 28, 2018 5:14 PM
Comment #429581

No one is scoffing at God unless you consider Trump a deity. It is the conservatives in general I “scoff” at, for their cognitive dissonance and their avoidance of truth.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 29, 2018 10:00 AM
Comment #429582

No one is scoffing at God unless you consider Trump a deity.

This is another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome. We need to add this to the text books. We need to make sure future generations can recognize TDS when they see it.

This is truly a prime example of TDS.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 29, 2018 10:33 AM
Comment #429584

Almost right Weary, it is actually Deranged Trump Syndrome that currently afflicts so many conservatives. How else do you explain the willingness to accept so many lies about so many issues? How else do you explain the thread being one big conservative acceptance of myths misinformation half truths and outright lies?

Posted by: j2t2 at July 29, 2018 11:07 AM
Comment #429585

It’s all to obvious the left here on WatchBlog are consumed with Trump being president. They have offered nothing of substance since he started his campaign. They have been exclusively negative in their superfluous criticism from the beginning.

They do nothing but bitch about Trump being president, nothing else. They don’t criticize his work, they refuse to recognize his achievements. They just bitch.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 29, 2018 11:10 AM
Comment #429586

You talk about lies? How in God’s name can the sale of soybeans jack up the GDP by 2%?

It’s the left who are the known liars, j2t2. Get used to it. Face it. Look in the mirror and ask yourself, “Was my last thought negative, or positive?”.

You will deny yourself an honest answer.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 29, 2018 11:14 AM
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Weary, it is unfortunate that WatchBlog Liberals and Socialist are such low information folks. We constantly bombard them with facts, backed up by reliable sources, and they still remain “unwashed”.

It has been obvious for some time now that phx8 and j2t2 are simply playing games to get reactions.

Frankly, I don’t care if they ever discover the truth or not. It is fun to constantly back them into a corner where they then run away and come back with some new lie.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 29, 2018 2:57 PM
Comment #429588

Consumed Weary, I doubt it. I would say energized would be more descriptive. Probably to late to stop the conservative movement and their attack on the people of this country.

We constantly bombard them with facts, backed up by reliable sources, and they still remain “unwashed”.

As usual half truths are the talking points for Royal. Yes you bombard us but it isn’t with facts or reliable sources by any stretch Royal. You bombard us with myths and misinformation when you aren’t outright lying. You are trolling us with propaganda designed to make the fuhrer look like he has done something positive for the American worker. Stagnant wages are in fact going down under Trump, that doesn’t help the American worker it helps the elite to keep us poor as we work all these jobs you claim Trump has created.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 29, 2018 5:21 PM
Comment #429589

I threw out the bait Weary, and just as expected, j2t2 got hooked. More nonsense with nothing to back it up.

I nearly always distinguish my “opinion” from “facts”. For the “unwashed liberals”, look for my links to facts.

j2t2 is still juicing us with his Nazi nonsense. He is simply a “one-trick” pony.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 29, 2018 5:49 PM
Comment #429598

j2t2’s “facts” are his saying

myths and misinformation



He never identifies what myths and misinformation he’s referring to.

Can you provide some facts to back up this myths and misinformation charge you unrelentingly refer to, j2t2?

What year did Hitler come to power?

You’re right, Royal Flush. He’s fluff. He’s filler. We’re being sidetracked with his pap. We can do better.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 30, 2018 1:35 AM
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