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Trump! Trump! Trump!

We’ve been needing a guy like Trump, well, for my lifetime. What a great President.

He is determined to stop or seriously curtail military involvement in the ME. He has run ISIS to ground, has NK or the ropes and is looking to take on Iran and put Russia back in their box. He has started work on the wall, promising to close the gov't if he doesn't get the rest of the wall funding in Sept.

Come midterms in Nov we should expect the GOP to shed many of the Trump hater's and many more GOP populist/independent types will be moved into office. A real healthcare plan will be implemented over the next few months. NASA is back. Mars missions are in the works. Commercial space development thru the roof, reusable rocket launchers implemented.

Took two years to accomplish but, the DNC/dimocrat party/Communist News Network/fake news and so on . . . I had a name for them, something like 'flicktards', they are a comin down. In our history there has never been a corruption of gov't, a conspiracy against the United States of America anywhere near this level. And, from the very top to include Obama and many of his admin, ex head officials of the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, US Attny Gen, UN Rep, SecState and so on . . .

This goes to show us how strong this country really is to go up against the ultimate hi-level conspiracy against the US and win. But, one has to wonder where we would be if Trump had not stood for office. Where would we be if Hillary had won? Where would we be if Bush or Rubio had won? IMO, Trump is pretty close to a miracle at a time when a miracle was desperately needed.

But, weepoo, I mean woopee, 'que guapo', Trump did win and here we are. Life is so good . . . . . .

Posted by Roy Ellis at April 28, 2018 9:10 PM
Comments
Comment #426582

Roy, I join you in celebrating a return to the rule of law and government for the people.

I have witnessed our slide into mediocrity, sloth, indifference, and criminality at the top levels of government.

How did it happen?

Edmund Burke said it best. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing.”

When a “hand-up” became a “hand-out”, when a job didn’t pay as much as living on the government teat, and when schools began teaching “go along to “get along”, the people didn’t pay attention and the country began its downward spiral.

God bless President Trump and The United States.

Posted by: Royal Flush at April 29, 2018 4:07 PM
Comment #426584

I agree. Most of this behavior is funded by a myriad of different sources, but the most prominent source is the plunder made available via. the 16th amendment.

The mechanics are embedded in the Federal Reserve Act. Debt. Interest. Borrowing. It is an illusion that needs growth to survive.

If you are really interested in change, change what you think is normal.

Posted by: Weary Willie at April 29, 2018 8:11 PM
Comment #426591

test test

Posted by: j2t2 at May 1, 2018 11:56 AM
Comment #426592

Well it seems I can post again but what do you say to this stuff. I mean what is this statement ” In our history there has never been a corruption of gov’t, a conspiracy against the United States of America anywhere near this level. And, from the very top to include Obama and many of his admin, ex head officials of the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, US Attny Gen, UN Rep, SecState and so on . .”so far out of the realm of reality or is it just me?

I agree Roy that Trump has taken corruption of government to new heights and I will also concede he has conspired with agents of a foreign country to gain office but where do you get it being a vast conspiracy of those you have named, including Obama. Obama withheld information so as not to unduly influence the election yet you claim he is conspiring! While repubs were outing Hillary no less.

Obama took a vacation this past year, not leading a conspiracy against Trump. Telling us the FBI,CIA HS, USAG UN SoS and so on were involved in some conspiracy along with the corporate media to do what exactly to Trump? Embarrass him for his own acts and words?

This is how America gets so dumbed down, someone makes this kind of BS up, in this case Trump, tells the small minded what to think and say and they blindly follow without questioning. So please Roy either have the decency to back this up with facts not pipe dreams from the white house or tell us it is merely talking points with no basis in fact.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 1, 2018 12:09 PM
Comment #426595

“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.”
January 23, 2016

One of the interesting aspects of the behavior of Trump supporters is their continued support, even when Trump betrays what they claim to believe. In a nutshell, the conned want to stay conned. It is actually a common phenomenon.

This interview is about Bernie Madoff, but it certainly applies to Trump and his supporters:

“MONTAGNE: What is his biggest and hardest-to-forgive transgression?

Rabbi BOROVITZ: The rape of trust; they call it affinity theft. It’s that I get you to like me, I get you to trust me, and then I not only steal your money, but I steal your belief that people are good and decent and caring.

MONTAGNE: I think a lot of people are wondering, and I’d like to ask you as a one-time con man - I mean, your cons I’m sure did not add up to billions - but what goes on in the mind of someone who is willing to betray people who trust him, and including, it always seems to be the most vulnerable, what they used to call widows and orphans?

Rabbi BOROVITZ: I think if I can get it, it belongs to me. And I start to believe that if I don’t have the money, then I’m less than everybody else. So, it starts from a place of not believing that one is good enough, and then going to, how do I make myself better, without any concern or even seeing the other person. So, what happens with a con person is we no longer see you as a soul; we only see you as an object.”

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98718782

We see that with Trump and his supporters. People who once objected to the corporatism cheer for tax cuts. When it is pointed out that $5 billion of the corporate tax cuts went to workers as raises and bonuses, and $175 billion to stock buybacks, it is only causes momentary confusion, and then more declarations of confidence in the con. They WANT to believe, even after a theft that will generate trillion dollar deficits and line the pockets of the richest of the rich.

Trump is profane. He does not go to church or read the Bible, or anything else for that matter. He is promiscuous, has fathered five children by three different women, been accused of s*xual assaults by a dozen more, caught on video bragging about “grabbing them by the ‘p*ssy,” he paid $130,000 in hush money to a p*rn star, and he exhibits extreme greed and narcissism. Hardly the attributes of a Christian! Yet Evangelical Christians are his biggest supporters. When these discrepancies are pointed out, they momentarily remember their disapproval, but soon forget their values in the name of another issue that somehow takes precedence over everything else they believe. They want the con, even when it is obvious it means approving of moral depravity, because it will somehow lead to something else that is not depraved.

Repeated examples of racism, bigotry, and misogyny are either accepted or overlooked.

Part of it is tribalism, but the willingness of Trump supporters to ignore virtually everything conservatism and Christianity were supposed to represent can be traced to the desire of the conned to want to stay conned. They believe, and they are trained to reject facts that challenge that belief. When things don’t work out, or the con is exposed, they condemn the ‘fake media,’ the Intelligence Community, the DOJ, Democrats, liberals, Black Lives Matter, illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, women, the gay agenda, Muslims- virtually anyone except the con.

Posted by: phx8 at May 1, 2018 1:40 PM
Comment #426597

Or, the fact that the left has pulled the country so far left has made more people willing to look past petty things and concentrate on important things.
I would wager that the lefts ridiculous redefining of racism, bigotry, misogyny etc… has played a huge role in the popularity of Trump. Maybe your divide and conquer tactic isn’t working like you thought it would.

That would explain why Roy talks about the middle east, North Korea, ISIS, and NASA, while you guys attack Christians and defend racism, and ramble on about things that happened a decade ago.

Posted by: kctim at May 1, 2018 2:25 PM
Comment #426599

kctim,
Roy repeats what he hears on Hannity. He cannot discuss anything about the Middle East or NO or NASA because he doesn’t know anything beyond what Hannity told him, and Hannity is not a journalist; he is a propaganda mouthpiece for Trump and the far right fringe. Do you want to debate that? Do you want me to cite articles by Roy proving that point, or examples of Hannity spouting propaganda? We see plenty of it on WB, with ridiculous conspiracy theories about Seth Rich, Obama and the DNC, and more, and it’snot just Hannity, either; there’s a sprinkling of Limbaugh and a few other hatertainers, too.

People who are supposedly Evangelical Christians support a president who is profoundly un-Christian. Like Roy, they fell for the con, and they can’t shake themselves free.

Trump just appointed a fighter pilot & Congressman from OK to head NASA. He is not a scientist. He does not know the first thing about it. He is a Climate Change Denier. Sorry, but science is not an a la carte menu. You can’t just pick and choose the facts you like, and disregard the ones that might be costly for the fossil fuel industry.

But conservatives have bought the con. Record after record for warm temperatures keep falling, virtually every field of scientific study shows what happens, but conservatives can’t shake free of the con, and they don’t want to.

By the way, two crooks by OK’s former attorney general, Pruitt, were sent packing.

So here’s how it is going to go. Trump is going to be impeached. Once he is gone, indictments will fly, and there will be no there to pardon Trump Jr., Kushner, Roger Stone, Manafort, and others. The traitors and crooks are going to jail.

Once Trump is out of jail, the Mueller investigation will reveal the money laundering charges- charges that will apply both federally and in the state of NY- and no pardon will save him. Trump will go to jail too.

Posted by: phx8 at May 1, 2018 4:14 PM
Comment #426600

Correction-
Once Trump is out of the White House… On Obstruction charges and Conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws… At the point, the money laundering charges, which were conspicuously absent from the questions supposedly being prepped for a Trump interview, are absent, and it is NOT because Trump did not do it. Those will be used to jail him after he leaves office.

Posted by: phx8p at May 1, 2018 4:16 PM
Comment #426601

Phx8,
Sorry, but I’m not going to personally attack Roy. He says he is pleased with those results so far and I believe that he is.

I really don’t know much about Hannity, so I have no idea if he is a mouthpiece for Trump or not. As he claims to be a Conservative, it only makes sense that he would react to a Republican President in the same way that 99% of the media reacted to President Obama and Hillary.

Ever since Trump was elected, ALL you guys have done is spout ridiculous conspiracy theories about the right, Trump and the GOP, but yet you expect people to dismiss what the other side comes up with? Come on man.

Hatertainers? LOL!
IF those people were spewing actual hate, they would be off the air. Face it, the ONLY reason you label them as hate is because they hold a different opinion than you.

Liberals pretend to care about the needy and they worship multi-millionaires like Obama and Hillary, but you want people to condemn Christians because they put their individual rights first and can look past a past affair or swear word to do so? Please.

Climate change theories and NASA are not the responsibility of government, so I couldn’t care less about them.

“So here’s how it is going to go. Trump is going to be impeached.”

IF the facts prove actual collusion, then that is probably what is going to happen. Until then, the lefts opinions about Russia and Trump are no different than Roy’s opinions about Obama and Hillary and the ‘deep state’ stuff. Well, I don’t believe Roy’s opinions are based on hate, but other than that, no difference.

Posted by: kctim at May 1, 2018 4:53 PM
Comment #426602

Worship them millionaires so much we want them to pay more in taxes… is that your thinking kctim, because it seems to me this projecting unto leftist the sins of the right is laughable. You guys fight tooth and nail to defend the rich at every turn, it is part of who you are kctim.

Is pointing out the hypocrisy of evangelicals on Trump the same as condemning them in your world kctim? You guys spent years telling us how bad them dems are and here they are supporting a guy that makes Bill Clinton look like a choir boy. If it weren’t for hypocrisy would conservatives have any real principles to call there own?

And so emotional you conservatives, the hypocrisy on display because of the Correspondents dinner is absolutely amazing. The cowardly lion Trump was a no show because his feelings were hurt by Obama a few years back! The anti-PC crowd conservatives whining about a comedian roasting Trump and his staff after all the BS Trump and his staff have called people since taking office. So tender when your ox is gored but when it is others…different story. Hypocrites the lot.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 2, 2018 1:37 AM
Comment #426603

I didn’t notice the part, in your story Roy, about the Trump administrations attacks on the 1st amendment, why is that?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 2, 2018 1:54 AM
Comment #426612

Sorry J2, but you are off more than usual.
It’s not about you wanting them to pay more taxes, but that you worship those who do not practice what they preach. A wealthy liberal is the epitome of hypocrisy.

Are religious folk hypocrites because they voted for the guy who may have had an affair, instead of voting for the person who supports abortion and forcing people to violate their religious beliefs? Maybe in a very round and about way.

Why would subtle changes to guidebooks, which occur ALL the time, be important enough to make Roy think “life is good,” which is what his post is about?

Posted by: kctim at May 2, 2018 8:17 AM
Comment #426614

Oh stating the obvious means “off more than usual” now kctim? You would have us believe Obama and Clinton don’t help anyone but themselves, while I’m suggesting you are projecting the actions of Trump onto these two.

It seems to me you don’t really understand what most on the left are actually like. You seem lost in your myths and misinformation and use a lot of projecting to get to your illogical conclusions kctim.

“The guy who may have had an affair” really? Nope kctim I’m talking about a man who has had a series of affairs, known to the public, and just seems to lack integrity. Trump just doesn’t seem like the guy evangelicals would want sitting at their table or around their daughters yet they “worship” him.

“Subtle changes to a guide book” is just the tip of the iceberg kctim, but you know that. Such hypocrisy from you, imagine this was the 2nd amendment and Trump made “subtle changes”. Defending Trump with this tripe is how low you guys have sank. I guess it is because we have only 1 amendment to the constitution and the others don’t really count.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 2, 2018 10:08 AM
Comment #426617

“Trump just doesn’t seem like the guy evangelicals would want sitting at their table or around their daughters yet they “worship” him.”

Obviously j2t2 is not aware of the “sinners” Jesus ate with, healed, and forgave.

We wonder if j2t2 understands what evangelicals actually “worship”.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 2, 2018 4:23 PM
Comment #426620

Sorry J2, but Obama and Hillary are multi-millionaires who wine, dine and live in extreme luxury while claiming to care about the needy.

I don’t doubt that Trump got some on the side, but I don’t believe it has been proven yet, has it? But you question his integrity on the issue because YOU think it’s true? LOL OK.

It’s a guidebook on departmental operations, not an amendment. Surely you know the difference.

Posted by: kctim at May 2, 2018 4:59 PM
Comment #426629

phx8

“Once Trump is out of the White House… On Obstruction charges and Conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws… At the point, the money laundering charges, which were conspicuously absent from the questions supposedly being prepped for a Trump interview, are absent, and it is NOT because Trump did not do it. Those will be used to jail him after he leaves office.”

Not gonna happen. Lol, but you have a right to dream like anyone else.

Posted by: dbs at May 3, 2018 4:44 AM
Comment #426638
Obviously j2t2 is not aware of the “sinners” Jesus ate with, healed, and forgave.

I must not be Royal as it seems evangelicals have taken a liberal Jesus position on the issue. Used to be you guys were the first to claim a lack of morality when one lives the Trump lifestyle. Remember “God, Guns, Gays” but of course Jesus didn’t say anything about eating with those people…right?

Sorry J2, but Obama and Hillary are multi-millionaires who wine, dine and live in extreme luxury while claiming to care about the needy.

Kctim, while extreme luxury sounds extreme, or more like Trump than Obama, I wonder why you think the two things are mutually exclusive.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 3, 2018 9:33 AM
Comment #426643

Hey j2t2! When Trump starts manufacturing cigar smelling, cum stained, blue dresses out of the oval office let me know.

While we’re at it, let’s name all of Trump’s children he refuses to support and are living in poverty and need a gun to survive their environment.

You will support this behavior when a Democratic is proven guilty, but condemn a Republican after an implied assertion is made.

Anyone without blinders on sees that as hypocrisy, j2t2. It’s sad when you think about it, how infected your mind is with partisan insanity.


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 3, 2018 10:29 AM
Comment #426650

“Remember “God, Guns, Gays” but of course Jesus didn’t say anything about eating with those people…right?”

j2t2, if you know what this means, please tell us.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 3, 2018 3:10 PM
Comment #426682

https://www.amazon.com/Rev.-Osagyefo-Sekou/e/B006ZLOSU6/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 5, 2018 12:54 AM
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