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The MSM have gone ‘skitzo’ over the NYT Times salacious information that the President tried to fire Muller, Special Counsel. At the same time, the MSM is ignoring, or throwing dirt on reports coming out of gov’t, FOX and associates citing evidence of the greatest treasonous conspiracy in the history of this country.

After two years of Tump bashing the MSM is refusing to cover or post evidence re this conspiracy. Hannity has said for more than a year that 'journalism is daid'. Couldn't agree more. Justice is coming for the conspirators and felons and the MSM is going to be left looking really really bad and worse yet, it's all recorded for posterity. Make that 'best' yet.

On Sunday mornings I used to drive 6-7 miles to buy a WaPo. Haven't bought a paper since midway thru the GOP primaries. I do watch some MSM just to keep up with where they are going, IMO, the MSM is culpable/complicit in their rabid support for the conspiracy. Complicity is adjudicated on intent and the MSM is running about 95-5 spewing out information supporting the dim felonies.

I think Trump is doing the right thing by not firing Comey. I hope Comey will try to bring some charges against the President. Either way, after Comey has his say, I fully expect the President to grind the conspirators into the dirt, no matter the cost and time required. Lock them up . . . He must set a precedent so such acts against the Constitution/country will never happen again. Stick it in and break it off, and so on . . .

The dim's have rejected Trump's immigration proposal as racist. I hope they stick with it and Trump does what he should have already done. Build the wall and send the DACA's packing . . . no amnesty. The dim's want a repeat of the Regan years. They must have near open border immigration to keep their party solvent.

Otherwise, we have the likes of Flake, Linsday, corpocratist we deserve . . .

Posted by Roy Ellis at January 27, 2018 10:41 AM
Comments
Comment #423757

Read firing muellrr vice comey.

Posted by: Roy ellis at January 27, 2018 12:02 AM
Comment #423758

Zeig Heil Roy, This attack on the MSM is so typical, it reminds me of A Night at the Garden.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 27, 2018 12:21 AM
Comment #423769

It is funny in that the country is so evenly divided on political issues. You seem to think the right is taking us toward naziism. I believe, had Hil and the Communist News Network been elected we would have been pulled toward socialism, fascism with more ism’s to follow.

Knowing how it feels to be on the losing side of the equation, I feel for you. But, I am extremely, like ‘que guapo’ happy that Trump won and will be around for another six years or so.

Some dimreps are going to ‘boycott’ the President’s State of the Union speech next week. I think Trump should take his que from that and charge a fee for dims to watch/listen to his speech. Rather than put the proceeds into GOP campaign coffers he would donate it to unwed mothers, get more votes there and so on …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at January 27, 2018 12:43 PM
Comment #423773

DACA is unconstitutional and if the federal government is sued by a number of states, as they have said they would, DACA would end immediately after the Supreme Court ruled.

President Trump has correctly noted that the issue belongs to congress and should be solved by them. It can not be solved by the president.

Congress has kicked this immigration can down the road too many times. We do need comprehensive immigration legislation. Let’s pressure congress to do their duty and earn their pay and perks.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 27, 2018 4:34 PM
Comment #423774
You seem to think the right is taking us toward naziism.

I think the right tends towards fascism Roy. They seem to like the authoritarianism of the big strong leader types.

Some dimreps are going to ‘boycott’ the President’s State of the Union speech next week.

That is to bad I was hoping one of them would bring Stormy Daniels to the SOTU. Then another could invite Summer Zervos and then Jill Harth and another could invite Temple Taggert and so.

Royal I agree our elected reps have kicked the can to long, what we need is well thought out bi-partisan immigration legislation.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 27, 2018 4:52 PM
Comment #423775

I don’t believe any president’s state-of-the-union speech should be used as a platform for political opponents to divert attention from what is being said. There is plenty of time given to the opposition to address their concern or disagreement with the president’s speech.

We have debased too much of what is good about this country already. Let us at least allow the president to present his view of the union from his vantage point.

The president comes to a joint session of congress, with the supreme court justices, cabinet officials, and military representatives in attendance, to speak to the nation.

Why would any American believe that this occasion would be an acceptable time to attempt to embarrass the president?

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 27, 2018 5:11 PM
Comment #423776

So now we are supposed to be politically correct?

Posted by: phx8 at January 27, 2018 5:27 PM
Comment #423777

Royal The repubs didn’t seem to mind diverting attention when they invited Kim Davis and those nuns who objected to birth control being covered under the ACA. Where was your outrage then?

Lets not forget the repub who shouted out “Liar” at the SOTU. Where was your outrage then.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 27, 2018 5:32 PM
Comment #423779

Both phx8 and j2t2 incorrectly assumed I was speaking only about our current president. I wasn’t.

When and how does the healing of our nation begin? If we on WB can’t agree to put our differences aside during a once-a-year state-of-the-union address to the nation, how can we ever expect to enjoy the benefits of citizenship in this great nation.

There is a time and place for debate and disagreement. It is not at the SOTU. That is a time to listen to the chief executive of the nation tell each and every one of us where we are; and where he/she wants to take us.

Some will agree, some will not. That’s OK. We have plenty of time and venues to express our opinion. Let the president express his/her opinion without theatrics designed to distract from the business at hand.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 27, 2018 6:20 PM
Comment #423780

Royal your plea for reconciliation rings hollow. For the past 9 years you have crucified Obama. Now that Trump is president you plead for us to come together during the SOTU!! LOL.

Your team opened the SOTU to disrespecting the president, the time to listen to the chief executive has passed, you guys blew it when you didn’t run the repub idiot who yelled “liar” out of town on a rail tarred and feathered. When you politicized the event.

BTW not for one second do I believe you were speaking about past presidents. Your past comments makes it hard to believe you would treat a future dems president with the respect you seek for Adolph Trump.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 27, 2018 8:55 PM
Comment #423781

How many Republican senators and representatives boycotted Obama’s SOTU address’? I’ll tell you j2 NONE. I agree the rep that called Obama a lier was wrong for doing it even if it was true. But if you condone the childish actions of a few reps to boycott I understand, it is what congress has come to of late 535 children crying and throwing temper tantrums when they don’t get their way.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 27, 2018 9:14 PM
Comment #423782

So political correctness should be observed, after all.

When we pay respect at a SOTU, we are respecting the office, and not necessarily the man. Another question: Has Trump respected the office? Has he respected his predecessors?

Trump accused Obama of committing a felony by wiretapping Trump Tower. He made this accusation in public, with no evidence whatsoever, and demanded his DOJ, FBI, CIA, so one, investigate. They looked. They found nothing. Not a thing.

Trump also called for investigations of his competitor for the office, and routinely refers to her as ‘Crooked.’ In fact, she has been investigated and no one has found anything. Not a thing.

His behavior towards Democrats has been disrespectful in the extreme. It is so bad, the international press booed and hissed Trump when he tossed out an attack on the free press, the usual denunciation of fake news.

So! Now we are supposed to show Trump respect? Now that the shoe is on the other foot, we are supposed to be politically correct? Please feel free to say why Trump should be shown the respect of the office, when he has shown such profound disrespect towards Obama and Hillary Clinton, a disrespect unmatched by any other executive in modern history. Please explain.

Posted by: phx8 at January 27, 2018 9:24 PM
Comment #423783

Obama was a liar. Perhaps the SOTU is not the place, but he wasn’t wrong. There’s not much room on your high horse for that one, j2t2.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 27, 2018 9:29 PM
Comment #423784

phx8, Obama blamed Bush for 8 year of incompetence. I don’t see any difference in what Trump is doing because that is what our government has come to, blame, name calling , and accusations. Both sides need to grow up, both side need to do what the F*** we sent them to D.C. for.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 27, 2018 9:37 PM
Comment #423785

KAP you were fine with the political chicanery the repubs demonstrated when Obama was president. Now you are thin skinned because some dems may just decide not to show up to hear Trump exaggerate what he thinks he has done this past year, to take credit for the work of others.

Learn the lesson, you reap what you sow. You guys let the POS lying scumbag shout out “Liar” during the SOTU., He was lying and he was disrespecting the president and the country. You gloated and thought him clever. True he didn’t boycott the event but so what some dems have decided to do just that perhaps instead of calling Trump a liar.

Now you whine, demanding political correctness for the fuhrer. I still think an appearance by Stormy Daniels is just the ticket for Trump and his wife as he gives his speech. He hasn’t earned any respect why should anyone respect him?

You guys would be wise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFHYgQW4M0o

Posted by: j2t2 at January 27, 2018 9:39 PM
Comment #423786

J2 I don’t give a rat’s A×× if Trump gives his STOU address to an empty auditorium. As I said both sides need to grow up and do what the F××× we as t them to D.C. for. So you can take your smart A××ed comments and stick them where the sun don’t shine.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 27, 2018 9:46 PM
Comment #423787

KAP it seems we are in agreement I don’t give a rat’s a** if Trump gives his SOTU to an empty auditorium either.

Why is it you guys want both sides to grow up only when the government is repub controlled? Why didn’t you grow up when Obama was in office?

Wow KAP so PC , why is it you guys are ok with insulting others but when it is your team you all get butt hurt to the point of insult?

Anyway KAP once you cool off go to the link and give it a listen, it is something conservatives need to realize during the Trump era.

BS Weary, Obama didn’t lie. Wilson said illegals were covered under Obamacare, but illegals couldn’t sign up on exchanges.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/09/chain-email/illegal-immigrants-are-covered-under-health-care-l/

Posted by: j2t2 at January 27, 2018 10:09 PM
Comment #423788

J2, the problem in D.C. is not new and I really don’t give a rat’s A×× who is in power it is the same BULLS××t. Both sides need to grow up. We have 535 children that are supposed to represent us. I don’t have a side j2 but I am an equal opportunity insulter, if you do a s××t job I will be on you like ugly on an ape, if you do good I will praise the person.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 27, 2018 10:34 PM
Comment #423789

I recommend reading Collusion, by Luke Harding:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/18/collusion-luke-harding-review-how-russia-helped-trump-win-the-white-house

It’s well written, and would be easy for even simple-minded people to understand. I started on chapter 10, From russia with cash, and moved on to chapter 11, The strange case of the german bank. One really funny thing is that when the FBI is looking for some russian criminal who has disappeared, they might as well look for him at -rump tower first. They found a guy there that had been missing for a while, he was later extradited back to russia, tried for murder, acquitted, and then gunned down by a sniper when he was coming out of a restaurant. Good book, with a good index.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 27, 2018 11:07 PM
Comment #423790

Oh please KAP it is always both sides with you. As if there is a third side. The repubs and dems have reached agreement on issues for years, until the tea baggers were elected. That tells me where the problem lies.

The repubs and to a certain smaller, much smaller, degree the dems are controlled by wealthy benefactors. Since the conservatives in the SCOTUS told us citizens united was right we have seen our representatives held hostage by the wealthy benefactors. They determine the position our representatives tack in Congress.

You can condemn or praise an individual as you see fit but that is no different than pi**ing into the wind. As long as you approve of and vote for these conservative ideologues we will devolve as a country.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 28, 2018 12:50 AM
Comment #423791

J2 when the dems are in power the reps b×××h and likewise when the reps are in power. It has been that way for years now. We all know you are a liberal and you will defend them even when they are indefensible. Today we have grown men and women in congress that act like children case in point the Schumer shutdown. The shut down before this one was the reps fault. Defend your point all you want but most of us know it is pure BULLS××T.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 28, 2018 1:22 AM
Comment #423792

By the way I did NOT vote for Trump or Hillary for that matter.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 28, 2018 1:24 AM
Comment #423793

The only shutdown lately I’ m aware of KAP is the shthole shutdown. And like you I didn’t vote for Hillary or Adolph. People bit**ng is one issue but the teabaggers in Congress have went far beyond bit**ing. I would also point out that the problem of grown men and women in Congress acting like children is a generalized statement and you are using guilt by association in your attempt to prove your assumptions. Further when you say acting like children the white house is the first thing I think of. Trump whines more than any 10 Congressmen I can think of.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 28, 2018 1:32 AM
Comment #423794

IF Schumer, Pelosi and demcraps reject the deal for pathway to citizenship for dreamers, then it proves democraps aren’t truly concerned about the dreamers. Pelosi playing the race card is despicable.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 28, 2018 7:24 AM
Comment #423796

J2 you forget about the Republican shutdown during the Obama admin. When Obama unnecessarily closed everything even the W. H. This one was the Schumer shutdown folly.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 28, 2018 9:30 AM
Comment #423797

Some people obviously think that no one remembers that the democrats did nothing about amnesty for illegal immigrants when the Democrats had a FILIBUSTER-PROOF MAJORITY in the Senate and control of the House and the White House (for a total of 5 months in year 2009).

The dreamers are very likely to be very, very angry IF Pelosi, Schumer, democrats, and similar ilk decide to turn-down this deal for a pathway to citizenship for dreamers, provided the following are also passed, in order to stop the problem from growing worse (as it did after the shamnesty of 1986):

  • (1)build the wall and secure the borders, and coast-lines (all of the borders);
  • (2)end the chain-migration;
  • (3)end the visa/immigration lottery;
  • (4)enforce existing laws and end sanctuary cities and states;
  • (5)require eVerify and prosecute greedy illegal employers;

The promises to stop the flood of illegal immigrants into the U.S. were broken after the shamnesty of 1986.

So, what kind of an idiot would fall for that lie again ?
Especially when it is now obvious that the democrats are despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, pandering and promising amnesty and citizenship to illegal immigrants with the hopes of getting millions of new demcorat voters, and then calling everyone who recognizes their despicable fraud:
R A C I S T S !
N A Z I S !

It is likely that many (if not most) Democrats have a disdain for that sort of despicable behavior and name-calling, but where are they?
Where are other democrats that reject the despicable name-calling by Pelosi, who states that the republicans “want to make America white again”.
Perhaps Nancy Pelosi means “100% white”, or “more white”?. After all, the U.S. population (as of 2010) is about 72% white.
The use of race as an argument against border security and a wall is a poor argumentative strategy, because walls do work, and accusing people of being racist is getting old, and only antagonizes those who may have previosly been sympathetic to some degree. Therefore, perhaps it is a good idea if Pelosi and others continue to call everyone racists and nazis ?

Unfortunately, if you dare to argue any of the many valid reasons against illegal immigration and amnesty, you will be called names and faced with a myriad of nonsensical excuses from the “open borders” supporters and lobbyists:

  • EXCUSE # 01: Tradition:
  • MYTH: As George Bush said: “We are a land of immigrants”. We can not pull up the drawbridge now, unless we dismantle the Statue of Liberty. Otherwise, we are all hypocrites.
    TRUTH: This is a common ploy. Yes, we are a land of immigrants. Mostly legal. We are enriched by legal immigration; not by massive, uncontrolled, illegal immigration. You would not allow large numbers of uninvited persons to come live in your home, use your food, utilities, and space. So, why would you let them come into your community, uninvited, and use your schools, hospitals, ERs, Medicaid, welfare, highways, and vote in your elections?

  • EXCUSE # 02: Economics:
  • MYTH:: The U.S. will crumble without illegal aliens. We need immigrants to pay the Social Security of the Baby Boomers when they begin to retire. Immigrants do jobs citizens won’t do. Who would pick our produce? Who would make the beds and wash the dishes?

    TRUTH: This is another common myth, since illegal aliens are costing U.S. tax payers a net loss of at least $70 billion per year (and possibly as much as $326.7 billion annually). $70 billion will pick a lot of vegetables and fruit, eh? Guarded and electronically monitored fences along all U.S. land borders would cost about $10 billion per year. How does that compare to the $70 billion per year in net losses to U.S. taxpayers?

  • EXCUSE # 03: Humanitarianism:
  • MYTH:: You are selfish to put the needs of poor citizens ahead of more desperate people in other nations, by denying them entry into our country. The U.S. is obligated to share with others. Large-scale immigration is a significant way for the U.S. to help the impoverished people of the world.

    TRUTH: It is also selfish to forget to show compassion for your fellow citizens that go without because illegal aliens have stolen from and burdened our welfare, Medicaid, education, healthcare, hospital, E.R., Medicare, Social Security, law enforcement, prison, insurance, and voting systems. Also, without the sovereign right of nations to control their own borders and immigration, people in places where things are not as good will always descend upon places where things are better, ruining it for everyone. We can be enriched by controlled immigration, but massive, uncontrolled immigration (legal or not) is a recipe for disaster, chaos, increased crime, racism, resentments, and societal disorder.

  • EXCUSE # 04: Diversity / Racism:
  • MYTH: Increasing diversity through immigration is necessary to be true to our civil rights principles. Opposition to illegal immigration is racist. We are obligated to accommodate millions of immigrants per year because our strength is our diversity; the diversity of immigrants made America great. And, Christopher Columbus was the first illegal alien, and we stole the land from the Indians. TRUTH: That is the old stand-by. You are a racist. However, race has nothing to do with it since illegal aliens are of all races from all over the world. Diversity is good, but massive, uncontrolled, illegal immigration itself leads to racism due to chaos, resentments, increased crime, societal disorder, and increased competition for a slice of a shrinking pie.
  • EXCUSE # 05: Irredentism:
  • MYTH: We have no right to secure U.S. borders, because U.S. borders are illegitimate to start with. The U.S. really belongs to the Indians and other neighboring nations, to start with.

    TRUTH: This is another weak argument. If you want to use that logic, we should all give back all of our nations to the original inhabitants, or their ancestors. This weak argument is just one of many that demonstrate how weak all of the pro-illegal alien arguments really are.

  • EXCUSE # 06: Cornucopianism:
  • MYTH: The free market and technology will save us. We are the land of plenty. Besides, we need illegal aliens to grow out of our massive debt problems. They will become new tax payers, and we can grow our way out of debt.

    TRUTH: Even if that were true, does it justify that sort of exploitation? To attempt to remedy our own debt problems? This simply does not make sense, since illegal aliens are costing U.S. taxpayers net losses of over $70 billion to $326.7 billion per year. Besides, how can importing massive numbers of uneducated and impoverished improve the economy. 32% of illegal aliens receive welfare (source: cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigrant-Households). 22% of all persons incarcerated in U.S. federal prison are illegal immigrants (source: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/immigrants-22-percent-federal-prison-population/). How will free markets and technology resolve that?

      The U.S.:
    • can not afford to fix the economic and political problems of all neighboring countries, much less the other nations from which illegal aliens originate (on other continents).
    • can not afford the time and cost to fix Mexico, and even if it could, illegal aliens come from hundreds of the nations world-wide, and the U.S. can not fix all of them.
    • can not afford to bring the rest of the world closer to our standard of living, without lowering our standard of living.
    • can not afford to be the world police.
    • can not afford to be nation-builders.
    • can not afford to let every one come here from all over the world; immigration must be limited.
    • can not afford to fix other nations’ problems around the world, when we can’t fix our own.
    • can not afford any of it, because the U.S. already has $53 Trillion of nation-wide debt, and 80% of Americans own only 17% of all wealth in the U.S.
    • can not stop illegal immigration with a border fence alone.
    • must enforce its own laws; otherwise.

  • EXCUSE # 07: Globalism:
  • MYTH: We live in a global economy now, requiring new global solutions. Securing the U.S. borders is futile, since it is inadequate to deal with globalization.

    TRUTH: This is a complete non-sequitur. Secure borders and a global economy have little (if anything) to do with each other. Nations have the sovereign right to secure their borders, and that is necessary, because without it, massive numbers of people from places where things are not as good would invade places where things are better, ruining it for everyone. We can not immigrate our way out of our fiscal and economic problems. Especially with increasing competition abroad, growing corpocrisy and corporatism within government, and an increasingly irresponsible, elitist, bought-and-paid-for, look-the-other-way government.

  • EXCUSE # 08: Practicality:
  • MYTH: It is not possible to deport 12+ million illegal aliens.

    TRUTH: There is no need to deport illegal aliens. Enforce existing laws to prosecute greedy illegal employers, and most illegal aliens will leave voluntarily. For those left, we can help deport those that volunteer to be deported, but once the magnets are eliminated, illegal aliens will leave voluntarily. We could provide $500 (per person) and pre-paid transportation to each illegal alien volunteering to leave the U.S. That may cost as much as $12 billion, but it is a one-time cost, and it is still miniscule compared to the current annual losses of $70 billion to $326.7 billion (and climbing, year after year).

  • EXCUSE # 09: Racism and Xenophobia:
  • MYTH: You are a racist, xenophobe, and/or a NAZI if you don’t want wide-open borders and have any problems with unchecked immigration.

    TRUTH: Racism and xenophobia has nothing to do with it. Massive immigration (legal or not) causes many societal problems. Greedy corporations and illegal employers of illegal aliens use the constant influx of illegal aliens to depress wages and boost their own profits. Pandering politicians do it for votes, despicably pitting American citizens and illegal aliens against each other for votes. The net losses due to illegal immigration are estimated between $70 billion to $326.7 billion. Also, crime rates by illegal aliens are estimated to be two or more times higher.

  • EXCUSE # 10: The Risk of War:
  • MYTH: You are risking war by expecting existing laws to be enforced to prosecute illegal employers of illegal aliens.

    TRUTH: This is more fear-mongering stooping to its lowest levels, and more misplaced compassion (if genuine) at its worst (i.e. more compassion for illegal aliens than fellow Americans).

  • EXCUSE # 11: A Wall Won’t Work:
  • MYTH: A wall won’t work.

    TRUTH: A barrier will work if it is also monitored by border patrol. And it doesn’t have to be a wall. A barrier (or fence) is merely a delay mechanism to make trespass more difficult; it is unlikely anything can stop all trespass 100%, but giving up is not the solution; more border patrol is the solution; and where fences and patrols have been implemented, they have proven to be very effective, which is probably why the pro-open-borders, pro-amnesty, and bleedin’ hearts are so strongly opposed to a fence and more border patrol.

If the magnets that attract illegal iimigrants to trespass the U.S. borders are not eliminated (i.e. require eVerify, prosecute illegal employers, and enforce existing immigration laws), then illegal immigrants will continue to flood across the borders.
Some may say that is unfair. However, U.S. citizens are justified to also have compassion for their own citizens, first. For those U.S. citizens supporting another amnesty (only) and a repeat of the 1986 amnesty …

  • where is the compassion for the victims of crime by illegal immigrants (crimes that should have been completely avoidable)?
  • Where is the compassion for U.S. citizens that go without healthcare and access to E.R.s and hospitals which are over-flowing with illegal aliens (of which many don’t pay)? Is this fair to U.S. tax payers ?
  • Where is the compassion for the truly needy U.S. citizens that can not get help because of limited resources and 32% of illegal aliens receiving welfare instead ?
  • Where is the outrage of the greedy employers of illegal aliens ?
  • Where is the compassion for the U.S. victims and survivors of crimes perpetrated by illegal aliens (29% of all prisoners are illegal aliens), and the crime rates are rising.?
  • Where is the compassion for U.S. citizens who’s lives have been changed forever by illegal aliens that spread disease ? One illegal alien in Santa Barbara, California infected 56 other people with tuberculosis as reported on April 24, 2004, by the Santa Barbara Press-News, “Anatomy of an Outbreak”. Because illegal alien migration into the USA continues unabated for the past 20 years, we now have 16,000 new cases of incurable MDR tuberculosis in the past five years. We suffer 7,000 new cases of leprosy. We tolerate 100,000 new cases of hepatitis “A” in our society. Chagas disease, which affects 14 million South Americans and kills 50,000 annually, streams across our borders as unchecked thousands enter our society illegally. If your child goes to public school, they could be exposed, as thousands already have been.
  • Where is the compassion for the U.S. tax payers that experience a net loss of about $70 billion to $326.7 billion per year due to all the numerous problems stemming from illegal aliens?

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 28, 2018 12:30 PM
Comment #423799
IF Schumer, Pelosi and demcraps reject the deal for pathway to citizenship for dreamers, then it proves democraps aren’t truly concerned about the dreamers. Pelosi playing the race card is despicable.

D.A.N this bucket has a hole in it. It depends on the total package not just one bit of the package. Unless of course the DACA is decided as one bill not part of a go in debt $25 billion and cut off all other immigration so the DACA’s can stay bill.

Also D.A.N please remember the “minuscule” amounts you keep adding onto the debt. I think in the future as we look at other issues the “minuscule” will change into gigantic.

Some people obviously think that no one remembers that the democrats did nothing about amnesty for illegal immigrants when the Democrats had a FILIBUSTER-PROOF MAJORITY in the Senate and control of the House and the White House (for a total of 5 months in year 2009).

I guess you would call this a ploy D.A.N., The 11th Congress did act in 2009 and 2010 on the dream act. A lack of action on granting amnesty to illegal immigrants would indicate that the Dems didn’t think amnesty for all illegal immigrants was the right thing to do.

I notice you still refuse to acknowledge the real root causes of illegal immigration, choosing to say illegal immigrants are the root cause. But it just isn’t so. This kind of diversion is another ploy.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 28, 2018 3:20 PM
Comment #423800

Wow…scratch a Liberal and reveal the hate.

Politics is about government policies, not individuals. I don’t ever recall writing that Obama was not a good person or good American. I disagreed with many of his ideas about governing by edict and growing government.

Frankly, I found his SOTU speeches very interesting and revealed his thinking about the future for me and my country. I found every president’s SOTU interesting for the same reason. Presidents have great power over my life and well being and I listen closely when they speak about my future. I do not wish to be distracted with partisan political theatrics during such an important speech.

Funny thing about trying to listen to a speech. If your mind is closed to the speaker, nothing penetrates to the brain.

I will listen closely to President Trump give his SOTU. I expect to hear him praise our country, our citizens, and even God. His will be a speech centered on personal growth for individual middle-class working Americans. A speech extolling the virtues of American technology, American capitalism and American labor.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 28, 2018 3:24 PM
Comment #423802

Pelosi said the GOP wants to make America white again. This is a lie, a big lie. American is already white, 72% as d.a.n notes.

She should be impeached. She should be thrown out of office for such boldacious lies. She is obstructing the truth. She should not ever be allowed to vote on anything again. Pull her drivers and SS card, and so on .. .

Posted by: Roy Ellis at January 28, 2018 4:49 PM
Comment #423803

Make her and Maxine Waters bunk together . .

Posted by: Roy Ellis at January 28, 2018 4:50 PM
Comment #423805

“I will listen closely to President Trump give his SOTU. I expect to hear him praise our country, our citizens, and even God. His will be a speech centered on personal growth for individual middle-class working Americans. A speech extolling the virtues of American technology, American capitalism and American labor.”

There in lies the problem Royal. The left hates our country and it’s success. So they would never praise the country, or it’s citizens, and God forbid that we even mention the name of God. All we have to do is take a look at the 8 years of Obama to see the pure hatred of the left for the success of America. Obama, with the blessings of Hillary, did all they could to destroy American capitalism, American influence in the rest of the world, and destroy the middle class. It doesn’t take rocket science to understand where they were taking us.

Posted by: Blaine at January 28, 2018 5:00 PM
Comment #423806

It is true Blaine, that many of our Liberal Pals will hear the president speak and not understand. Many will be mislead by the political theater intended to distract from his message of good news for America.

American citizens will recognize a president, and presidential message, of encouragement and hope for an even better future for those here legally who love this land.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 28, 2018 5:29 PM
Comment #423808
d.a.n wrote: IF Schumer, Pelosi and demcraps reject the deal for pathway to citizenship for dreamers, then it proves democraps aren’t truly concerned about the dreamers. Pelosi playing the race card is despicable.
j2t2 wrote: D.A.N this bucket has a hole in it. It depends on the total package not just one bit of the package. Unless of course the DACA is decided as one bill not part of a go in debt $25 billion and cut off all other immigration so the DACA’s can stay bill.
Right. It’s not that complicated. A path to citizenship for dreamers requires controls to stop it from happening again, and again. What is wrong with that?
j2t2 wrote: Also D.A.N please remember the “minuscule” amounts you keep adding onto the debt. I think in the future as we look at other issues the “minuscule” will change into gigantic.
Not true. Even if it is $50 billion , it is worth the cost. $50 Billion is equivalent to about 34 days of interest on the $21.5 Trillion national debt. It is worth it, because the annual net losses from illegal immigration are over $70 Billion, and possibly up to $327 Billion (source: summars.info/BorderSecurity.htm#Cost).
d.a.n wrote: Some people obviously think that no one remembers that the democrats did nothing about amnesty for illegal immigrants when the Democrats had a FILIBUSTER-PROOF MAJORITY in the Senate and control of the House and the White House (for a total of 5 months in year 2009).
j2t2 wrote: I guess you would call this a ploy D.A.N., The 11th Congress did act in 2009 and 2010 on the dream act.
How? No amnesty. No protection for dreamers.
j2t2 wrote: A lack of action on granting amnesty to illegal immigrants would indicate that the Dems didn’t think amnesty for all illegal immigrants was the right thing to do.
Not likely that could ever get amnesty for all illegal immigrants, but the democrats had a “FILIBUSTER-PROOF SENATE”, control of the HOUSE, and control of the White House for 5 months in 2009, and democrats did nothing for amnesty or illegal immigrants.
j2t2 wrote: I notice you still refuse to acknowledge the real root causes of illegal immigration, choosing to say illegal immigrants are the root cause. But it just isn’t so. This kind of diversion is another ploy.

Nonsense. I am failing to refuse anything. Illegal immigraion is caused by magnets (jobs, welfare, health care, 70% of babies born at Dallas Parkland Hospital are by illegal immigrants, 51% of all immigrants (legal and illegal) receive welfare), over 50% of illegal immigrants pay no federal or state income taxes. Those are the major reasons for illegal immigration. Duh!

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 28, 2018 8:40 PM
Comment #423809

Well, I might like the SOTU address if, due to a comedic mix-up with the seating chart, Melania and p*rn star Stormy Daniels sat next to one another. The split screen would be priceless, with Storm irritably tapping a rolled up a Forbes Magazine every time Trump flubbed his telepromptor lines while Melania frantically read through her pre-nup. They would be flanked by the five children spawned from the three wives with Trump Jr. falling for a practical joke and wearing an orange jump suit because he thought Mueller would be there. The chyron on the bottom of the screen would scroll ‘Make America h*rny again’ and the speech would conclude with a dollar drop from the roof- $130,000 floating down.

Of course, many Republicans would turn their noses up at such paltry sums. They just pulled off a smash-and-grab of the US Treasury for a trillion or more. ‘Here you go everybody! Debt pays for itself! How do you like us now!’

Speaker Ryan would smile because the Koch Brothers said ‘no tax deal, no more funding,’ and when Ray pushed it through the Kochs donated $500,000 to him the next day, and now they are promising hundreds of millions to the GOP. Now THAT is a dollar drop!

Posted by: phx8 at January 28, 2018 9:47 PM
Comment #423831

The dems who show up should shout YOU LIE over 2000 times. Giving a SOTU address is unnecessary. It can be done in writing instead. I hope this is the last one.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 29, 2018 10:09 AM
Comment #423837

D.A.N once again you are wrong here once again is the link that gives the history of the Dream Act including the 2009-2010 time frames you wrongly declare nothing was done. Sorry it goes against your myth but facts are facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act

Nonsense. I am failing to refuse anything.

Sorry D. but you are. You fail to understand the real root causes, substituting for convenience IMHO. I’ve given you several links to help you understand but it seems you would rather ignore anything that doesn’t perpetrate your myths. I understand it is easier to duh someone that to have your worldview challenged.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 29, 2018 1:22 PM
Comment #423839

I didn’t see anything in your link pertaining to amnesty, j2t2?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 29, 2018 2:03 PM
Comment #423840

..and ohrealy shouts, “Well they did it, too!”.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 29, 2018 2:05 PM
Comment #423841

Wheels of justice just rolled over the #2 FBI man. Leads one to believe that Trump will go hard on the felons as McCabe could have been left alone to slide into retirement in March.

Was hoping the Nunes memmo would be released mid week but may be into next week.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at January 29, 2018 2:40 PM
Comment #423843
According to Fox News, McCabe was “removed.” A source told the news outlet that this was the earliest date possible for the FBI to remove him and still leave him fully eligible for his pension.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/29/report-deputy-fbi-director-andrew-mccabe-stepping/

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 29, 2018 4:55 PM
Comment #423844

“Well, I might like the SOTU address if,…”

I am pleased phx8 that in spite of your party losing control of government, and their losing political and social issues, you maintain your sense of humor.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 29, 2018 4:59 PM
Comment #423849

While you were distracted…

The Trump administration is refusing to implement the Russian sanctions passed by the Senate one year ago, 98-2. Today was the deadline. No sanctions.

And today the Treasury Department was supposed to release a list of the names of Russian oligarchs that were going to be sanctioned. No list.

Nope.

Wouldn’t want to upset Vladimir. Uh-uh. Absolutely not.

Meanwhile, Russian bots and trolls continue pushing #releasethememo. Oddly enough, both the Russians, Trump, and Trump supporters want to attack the Democrats, the DOJ, and the FBI.

Posted by: phx8 at January 29, 2018 8:25 PM
Comment #423850

So at the same time we are undergoing a continuous cyber attack by Russians, Trump and his supporters are also attacking the same targets.

Posted by: phx8 at January 29, 2018 8:27 PM
Comment #423851

phx8, cyber attacks have been going on for decades. Russia as well as most every other does it. Even the good ole US of A does it. It should stop but you know as well as I do it isn’t. B***H all you want but it ain’t goin to stop.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 29, 2018 8:56 PM
Comment #423852

phx8 simply wants to connect the two together. He doesn’t care if it’s a fact or not. He simply wants to put the impression that they are working together out there.

phx8 has bots, a rare disorder that tricks the infected into thinking Russia and Trump are both President of the United States.

I think j2t2 has it too.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 29, 2018 9:58 PM
Comment #423854
j2t2 wrote: D.A.N once again you are wrong here once again is the link that gives the history of the Dream Act including the 2009-2010 time frames you wrongly declare nothing was done. Sorry it goes against your myth but facts are facts.
Wrong. That was a proposal. It never passed. The democraps had a “FILABUSTER-PROOF” senate, and a majority in the House and the control of the White House for a total of 5 months in 2009, and failed to pass the DREAM Act. The link to the article that you provided says that very thing.
j2t2 wrote: Sorry D. but you are. You fail to understand the real root causes, substituting for convenience IMHO. I’ve given you several links to help you understand but it seems you would rather ignore anything that doesn’t perpetrate your myths.
Your links don’t only fail to support your arguments, but links abouit NAZIs isn’t helping any of your arguments.

Please be precise. What part of any facts that I posted are not true. No more vague nonsense please.

Weary Willie wrote: I didn’t see anything in your link pertaining to amnesty, j2t2?
That’s because it didn’t contain anything about amnesty. It only contained info about the proposed Dream Act , which was never passed, despite the democraps having a “FILABUSTER-PROOF” senate, and a majority in the House and the control of the White House for a total of 5 months in 2009. DOH!
j2t2 wrote: You fail to understand the real root causes, substituting for convenience IMHO.
Humble? That’s funny.
j2t2 wrote: I understand it is easier to duh someone that to have your worldview challenged.
Anyone who doesn’t agree with you doesn’t want “to have your worldview challenged” ?

Rather than stupid, unsubstantiated, conclusions, and calling people NAZIs, please give me some solid reasons and facts to agree with your postion.
So far, all you are doing is spewing a lot of circular gobbledygook that really makes very little sense, and your links to old NAZI films, and calling people on this site NAZIs, etc. is definitely not the way to win people over to your way of thinking.

Besides, IF I ever start to think that way, I’d have to shoot myself.

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 29, 2018 10:06 PM
Comment #423855

Word is that after the Trump admin reviewed the Nunes memo on Sunday McCabe was not allowed to come to work at his (old) FBI office this morning. Also, that he may be summarily fired at some point in the near future.

Director Wray locked him out but how can Wray be innocent in all this??

Heard on Hannity tonight that some FBI agents were asked to change wording in some 302 (reporting) forms.

Historical, momentous, beyond any political attack against the Constitution. And the MSM can’t acknowledge what is about to go down. S..t on them, IMO. Stretch arse over their heads and let it go …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at January 29, 2018 10:24 PM
Comment #423856

I laugh to myself, and tell them that we primarily advertise on Fox because we find their viewership to be extremely gullible and much easier to sell than other networks. The look on their face at that time is priceless. I am not kidding you. I get to tell them they are [f***ing] idiots while getting rich off them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2018/01/22/scottevest-founder-calls-fox-news-viewers-gullible-idiots-now-company-faces-boycott/1056268001/

Posted by: ohrealy at January 29, 2018 11:46 PM
Comment #423859

Priceless ohrealy,

but Scott Jordan blew it when he apologized. All he really had to do was to blame it on “Fake News”.

Posted by: Cubed at January 30, 2018 12:48 AM
Comment #423876

KAP,
“… cyber attacks have been going on for decades. Russia as well as most every other does it. Even the good ole US of A does it.”

Whose side are you on?

WW,
Please explain: Why do Russian bots and trolls boost #releasethememo? Why does our adversary think that kind of cyber attack is a good idea? How do the Russians benefit? (If you need to see the FOX link again, let me know).

Please explain: Trump has not said a word about the ongoing cyber attacks. Why not? It is a matter of national security.

Please explain: Trump did not impose any sanctions on the Russians, and the one year given by the Senate has expired. The Treasury Department said it would release the names of Russian oligarch money-launderers, but it has not done so. Why not?

Does anyone think there might be a big problem with the Republican Party, the RNC, anonymous dark money political donations allowed by Citizens United? Anyone see a problem with a Russian oligarch attending NRA meetings, talking to Trump Jr., and an extremely large anonymous donation in 2016 by the NRA to Trump? Just wondering.

Posted by: phx8 at January 30, 2018 11:35 AM
Comment #423877

Phx8 cyber attacks have been going on for decades now. Most all countries do it. I don’t think it is right but who is going to stop it? We do it they do it. It will not end. What is it phx8 your grocery store tabloids never mentioned it? Didn’t you know that before electronic spying we had flesh and blood spies?

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 30, 2018 12:10 PM
Comment #423879

Also phx8 it is not a question of whose side I’m on, but of course the USofA’s side, but being stupid enough to think Russia is the only country doing cyber attacks.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 30, 2018 12:18 PM
Comment #423881

Democrats are incredulous that Hillary lost, despite the fixes being in (i.e. to keep Bernie Sanders out of the election, Comey and Loreta Lynch (and possibly others in the FBI and White House?) fixing it to keep Hillary out of jail, etc.).

So, it must be someone else’s fault (i.e. Russians, voter suppression, etc.). Just ask Hillary. According to Hillary, it’s not her fault. It’s all those “deplorables’” fault. It’s all those rural folks who “cling to guns or religion”. It’s all that ugly red on the U.S. map (caused by those deplorables).

Certainly not Hillary. A candidate that was so bad, that the candidate (i.e. Hillary) was not even able to beat Trump (despite the Republican Party having great disdain for Trump, and also incredulous that voters didn’t want any of the other dozen+ Republicans running for president).

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 30, 2018 12:40 PM
Comment #423882

Please explain? Easy: WAY too much MSNBC, Kos and unicorn dreams.


Please explain: Why do liberals think that ‘Russia’ is helping the political party that is its polar opposite and less friendly to them, instead of seeing that their goal is to weaken us through division?

You’re dishonestly screaming Russian collusion as if it were known fact, with the hope that an investigation will lead to a charge of past money laundering or jaywalking, simply because the President doesn’t agree with you 100% on social and political issues.

They know the left’s politics are more important to them than country. They know the right is hung up on the Constitution and individual rights.
They knew the left would jump the shark with their hate and divisiveness in order to get what they want.

Posted by: kctim at January 30, 2018 12:53 PM
Comment #423884

KAP,
So, everybody does it, therefore cyber attacks on the United States by an adversary are acceptable?

d.a.n.,
Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes. In any case, she is a private citizen now.

WW,
Why do Russian bots and trolls boost #releasethememo?

Why does Trump refuse to denounce the ongoing Russian cyber attacks against the U.S.?

Why did Trump refuse to apply any sanctions against Russia? The Senate and House passed that legislation almost unanimously, a combined vote of 517-5. Yesterday was the deadline. Trump did nothing whatsoever.

Why did the Treasury Department refuse to publish the list of Russian oligarch money launderers, despite its promise to do so by yesterday?

These things happened.


Posted by: phx8 at January 30, 2018 2:56 PM
Comment #423885
These things happened. Posted by: phx8 at January 30, 2018 2:56 PM

But not in the bizarro world of FakFekFicFocFux. They’re watching high speed chases and car crashes to distract from the news, waiting for the SOTUniom tonight. Maybe this guy is writing it:

MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday the release of a U.S. list of Russian businessmen close to the Kremlin was an unfriendly act, but Moscow did not currently plan to retaliate. The U.S. Treasury Department named major Russian businessmen in a so-called “oligarchs’ list” which was released earlier on Tuesday. The list, drawn up as part of a sanctions package signed into law in August last year, does not mean those included will be subject to sanctions, but it casts a potential shadow of sanctions risk over a wide circle of wealthy Russians.

That’s whose side they’re on. The Fertilizer King is on the list. He’s very nervous, hiding out in Monaco, and has apparently lost a lot of weight. A US company that he owns filed for bankruptcy, so he’s learning from Dumpty.

I got David Cay Johnston’s new book today, It’s Even Worse Than You Think, still haven’t finished reading Collusion, by Luke Harding, which is very detailed. Fire and Fury is very difficult to get here. Copies were bought up in bulk as soon as it came out.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 30, 2018 3:28 PM
Comment #423886

phx8, Is it acceptable for the U. S. to cyber attack other countries? The answer it is NOT acceptable for anyone to cyber attack anyone!!! But what are you going to do about it phx8 are you going to slap them on the wrist like Obama did? Was it acceptable for Obama to interfere in Israel’s election?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 30, 2018 3:28 PM
Comment #423887

“…the Russians, Trump, and Trump supporters want to attack the Democrats, the DOJ, and the FBI.”

It is painful to read such comments by an educated person such as phx8. Does he actually believe that one or two people represent an entire agency of thousands?

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 30, 2018 3:29 PM
Comment #423890

ohrealy,
Thanks for letting me know they published the list of oligarchs earlier today.

KAP,
Obama did a LOT more than slap the Russian’s list. The sanctions, coordinated with allies such as the EU, Canada, Australia, Japan, and more, put the Russian economy into a deep recession and collapsed the ruble. The sanctions applied to both individuals and Russian companies, and they did force the Russians to change their approach towards Ukraine.

Over the past few years, the Russians have launched cyber attacks intended to undermine western democracies. The attacks target elections, promoting Russian goals while simultaneously weakening alliances. They do the same thing in other countries they did in this one. They promote far right white nationalist candidates, like Trump and Le Pen in France. The cyber attacks promote the breakup of the EU through votes like Brexit.

What should we do? There’s no need to confront the entire country. We need to target the billionaire oligarchs. There are 96 of them. Go after their money. Do that, and the Putin government will be gone in short order.

Posted by: phx8 at January 30, 2018 4:32 PM
Comment #423891

phx8, So what do you suggest for us cyber attacking other countries? Should we be sanctioned or target our billionaires? It’s been going on for decades phx8, and now you get bent out of shape and get your panties in a knot. Why wasn’t anything done about it 30-40 years ago.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 30, 2018 4:41 PM
Comment #423893

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/23/no-russian-bots-note-behind-releasethememo/

I guess phx8 thinks a 14 year old Russian kid who’s grandma is in jail clicking on the hashtag because he thought it said ReleaseTheMamaw is an attack on the U.S.

Sorry phx8, it’s Americans who want to get to the bottom of this who are trending the hashtag.

Keep it up, though. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 30, 2018 5:36 PM
Comment #423894

Russia hacked the election!
Russia helped Trump get elected!
Russia influenced hashtags!
Russia pissed in phx8’s Wheaties!

Yet no proof of any of that.
phx8 thinks throwing darts is how our justice system should work. He wants to throw 96 darts and hope he gets Democratics elected again. Fat chance, phx8!

What you should be doing is try to think of positive policies that will benefit everyone. Throwing shit around isn’t going to work. Democratics have been able to get away with it when the media was a one-way street with talking heads dictating the discussion, but there are many more avenues of information out there now. Your shit throwing isn’t going to work any longer.


Posted by: Weary Willie at January 30, 2018 5:46 PM
Comment #423895

The Daily Caller link bases its entire story on one anonymous source.

Here is a bipartisan national security source, the Alliance for Securing Democracy, that tracks Russian bot and troll activity on the internet:

http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/

You can see the trending Russian bot activity from 600 identified accounts over the past 48 hours.

Here is an interesting example of Russian trolls in action. It is a little unusual in that one troll is generating the tweets without making much of an effort to hide it:

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/957317983516413953/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2018%2F1%2F28%2F1736674%2F-The-Russian-bots-aren-t-even-trying-anymore

Posted by: phx8 at January 30, 2018 6:12 PM
Comment #423896
Collusion, page 301…January 2017, Sater and Cohen were involved in another clandestine joint venture. this time involving Ukraine. Cohen went to see -rump in the White House. He hand-delivered the plan to Michael Flynn, shortly before Flynn resigned as national security advisor, the New York Times reported. It envisaged Russia obtaining a lease on the Crimea, for fifty or one hundred years…

This was supposed to be in return for restarting the attempt to build a -rump tower in Moscow. This project was -rump’s main concern all through the period of the primaries and beyond all the way past inauguration day.

In the primaries, Marco Rubio: …at least three hundred Americans who sought work at Mar a lago were not hired…. When you bring someone in on one of these visas, they can’t go to work for anybody else. They either work for you or they have to go back home. You basically have them captive, so you don’t have to worry about competing for higher wages with another hotel down the street. And that’s why you bring workers from abroad.

The law was circumvented by placing a small ad in a local paper with a fax number listed for responses, making sure there was very little response. Then he imported foreign workers under the H-2B visa program. (Haitians and Romanians)

Posted by: ohrealy at January 30, 2018 6:42 PM
Comment #423897
phx8 wrotte: d.a.n., In any case, she [Hillary] is a private citizen now.
Yeah, Hillary is a citizen, who should be in jail like other people who were irresponsible with top secret information.
phx8 wrotte: d.a.n., Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes.
That’s not enough. Hillary still lost, and the point still is: Hillary was so bad, she couldn’t beat the dreadful Trump. Also, it was probably a little less than 3 million votes, since there was some voter fraud, and some illegal immigrants voted too (probably much less than 3 million illegal immigrants, but no one knows how many, since some states don’t require IDentification to vote, and some states only require a driver license; but illegal immigrants can get driver licenses in some states). A 2016 Rasmussen poll indicates that a majority of democrats believe illegal aliens should be allowed to vote. Fraudulent voting is not confined to illegal immigrants. In 2012, the Washington Examiner reported that Wendy Rosen, The Democratic candidate for Maryland’s 1st Congressional District, was forced to end her candidacy after it was discovered that she committed voter fraud by casting a ballot in both Maryland and Florida in multiple political contests. There is enough evidence of noncitizen voting to indicate that it is an ongoing problem that may have a significant effect.

Many government officials (mostly democrats) claim (very conveniently) that voting by illegal immigrants is not a major problem, but while the potential number identified may be small, an election can be decided by a few votes. In year 2000, the presidential race between Democrat Al Gore and Republican George W. Bush was decided by a few hundred votes in Florida. A 2013 National Hispanic Survey study by Republican pollster John McLaughlin asked a sample of 800 likely Hispanic voters if they were American citizens. 13 percent admitted they were not.

Yes, fortunately, the electoral college does not allow only a few states (many overrun, sancturary states full of sancturary cities) to decide for all 50 states.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 30, 2018 7:13 PM
Comment #423898

Maybe the democrats’ despicable strategy to turn the electorate blue by decades of pandering and promising amnesty and citizenship worked on some states, but not enough (not yet, anyway).

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 30, 2018 7:14 PM
Comment #423899

600 accounts in 48 hours. I was looking for the other zeros. Only 600 accounts in 48 hours, out of how many inquiries to the hashtag?

Couldn’t 600 ordinary citizens be curious about a scandal such as this? I guess we could say 504, since 96 of the accounts belong to billionaires who have nothing else to do.

This is lame. I don’t even know why I’m entertaining this.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 30, 2018 8:15 PM
Comment #425426

Really nice article thanks for sharing.

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