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Thank God For Our Founder's, For Thomas Jefferson

The House Intel Cmte will release, within a week or so, information to the public relative to the Fusion GPS document and associated players. House members are relating that several top FBI and DOJ officials are implicated in weaponizing intelligence to thwart the candidacy of Donald Trump and work to impeach him after he became President. Will come to be known as the greatest abuse of political power in U.S. history.

IMO, the source of this breach of our Constitution began with the effort to 'globalise' the US and the world. The Dem/GOP Corpocracy, the MSM and the super wealthy elites allied with similar folks of other countries to establish so called 'free trade' where companies were encouraged to locate to countries having an abundance of cheap labor. Workers of the world could travel freely to compete in foreign labor markets. Globalisation was epitomized in the northern hemisphere through an attempted program known as the North American Union (NAU). This program would integrated the economies and workers of Mexico, the US and Canada. The program would embody open borders and 'free trade' agreements between them.

The citizenry realized pdq this was a bad deal an rejected the NAU. Corpocracy continued to implement the program in piecemeal and in secret, culminating in the situation we have today.

The word went out to the people that diversity was the great strength of American, replacing E Pluribus Unum as our mantle. US companies moved overseas taking the best jobs with them and a lot of research operations as well. An over abundance of cheap foreign labor put many US workers on the street. Crime rates went up and drugs flooded the country. Wages were stagnated for two decades.

Then, in 2016 a populist came out of nowhere and his vision for the country threatened the very idea of globalisation. Corpocracy set about to make sure this populist had no chance at being elected President. The GOP ran some 16 primary candidates against him. All ex-Presidents railed against him. A dossier called Fusion GPS was created to vilify Trump. Later, the DEM's bought the dossier and used it to gain FISA warrants that allowed US intel agencies to spy on Trump and his associates. The MSM has worked tirelessly to bring the impeachment effort to fruition. Even now, as we know the truth, there are many GOP'ers and Dem corpocratists, elites, MSM and multi hundreds of business and institution leaders working to take Trump down.

It seems unbelievable that something this sinister, this organized, this massive, could be leveled against our democratic republic, our Constitution, our country. The Founder's warned us, Jefferson wasn't just whistling Dixie. AND, the people, the man on the street, prevailed again. But, damn, it was a squeaker. But by a few votes Hillary would be Presidednt and there would be nary a word about the conspiracy et al.

Otherwise, we STILL have the corpocacy we deserve . . . . but, STAY TUNED . . . .

Posted by Roy Ellis at January 20, 2018 2:32 AM
Comments
Comment #423465

So..umm.. several things Roy,
First, Didn’t you guys say the same thing last week and the week before about the FBI and DOJ officials?

Secondly, let me make sure I got this one straight. The same man who has globalised his business, personally brought in and used foreign workers on the cheap and still does, and has refused to pay contractors for work performed on his projects is now the Savior!

Third, He came out of nowhere! Did he also leap tall buildings in a single bound and catch speeding bullets with his teeth? I mean he ran for president in 2000 on the reform party ticket. Wasn’t this the same Trump that was a reality TV star this past several years? Didn’t he tell us he paid off many of the repub candidates over the years whilst they held public office?

So let me ask if this dossier was meant to harm Trump prior to the election why wasn’t it used. The Russians helped Trump by stealing emails and giving them to wikileaks which Trump then used to his advantage. Isn’t that the same thing you claim about this dossier?

Trumps tax laws are as establishment repub as they can get, how do you square that fact with him being anti-establishment? When a teacher cannot deduct pencils for the classroom but a corporation can deduct pencils for office use I am not seeing the anti-establishment thing.

Do you see the irony in your comment “but by a few votes Hilary would be president”? I mean he lost the popular vote by 3 million wasn’t it? The electoral college got him over the finish line.

Can you go into detail on your claim the MSM has worked tirelessly to bring the impeachment effort to fruition? Reporting on events is their job. Factual information that embarrasses Trump or proves his misleading lies wrong really isn’t about impeachment.

I didn’t see anything about the SCOTUS “Citizens United” decision in your history, but that has allowed for unlimited corporate funding of candidates which benefits the establishment immensely despite what those conservative judges said.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 19, 2018 11:28 AM
Comment #423473

Someone asked a very good question today.

Should the United States government release information, gathered legally by a government agency, on high level officials in the Obama White House, FBI, and justice department, that alleges wrongful, and possibly criminal, actions?

Are the citizens of the United States sophisticated enough to handle information that may cast suspicion on those who operate in the highest levels of government?

I believe Americans should almost always be told the truth by their government. I make exceptions for war time when truth-telling may endanger our military and civilian population.

I make an exception for an unavoidable and unprecedented catastrophic foretasted event such as a huge meteor striking earth from which there is no escape possible.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 19, 2018 4:39 PM
Comment #423475


j2, it’s clear you don’t like Trump as a person or President. What is striking to me is that you seem willing to disregard the grave damage that has occurred through this conspiracy.

Further, look at the damage, the division that has been caused by carrying an illegal immigration policy for years.

Who, in their right mind, would trust those in high positions, the MSM and thousands of talking heads, retirees and so on, who created and/or participated in this conspiracy?

j2, knowing what we now know, would you really want to have Hillary serving as President?

Agree Royal, the truth shall set you free and all that …
Transparency with this conspiratorial information will serve to allow people to start trusting again. The political hacks that created/participated in this conspiracy will soon be forgotten. But, I see no way for the MSM to regain trust of the people. That is a huge blow to our democratic republic.

It is a good thing that the faces of those in gov’t and the media who perpetrated this thing will be on file forever to be pulled up and viewed

Lastly, we all owe a great deal of thanks to Sean Hannity and many of his associates who worked tirelessly to bring this crap out in the open. Left to those running the govt, this crap would have been laid to rest and on to business as usual, IMO.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at January 19, 2018 5:24 PM
Comment #423477

Sean Hannity has indeed played a role in pulling back the curtain on some very despicable characters who have occupied high government office.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 19, 2018 5:52 PM
Comment #423479

Too bad FOX killed their story about Trump in October 2016!

Trump had an 11 month affair with a p*rn star, Stormy Daniels while married to Melania. The story was reported in 2011 in a published interview, but before the 2016 election Stormy signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement arranged through Michael OCohen Trump’s criminal lawyer- truly a criminal lawyer in every sense of the word. Using pseudonyms, Cohen created an LLC in Delaware, Essential Consultants. Nice name! And paid her $130,000.

But wait! There’s more! At one point, Trump chased her around a hotel room dressed only in his “tighty-whities.” And if that doesn’t leave you wanting to stab your brain with a Q-tip, she also spanked him with a copy of Forbes magazine.

This raises a number of concerns. First, I will never ever pick up a copy of Forbes left sitting in an office or waiting room. Who knows where it has been!

The core of Trump’s supporters are Christian Evangelicals. What is it with these people? Perhaps they live secret lives that would make us gape in amazement, and now they have found a kindred sole in Donald Trump.

Posted by: phx8 at January 19, 2018 8:57 PM
Comment #423480

More hard hitting reporting FOX neglected to mention:

The House Intelligence received its own Fusion GPS testimony. You can bet the Mueller investigation is pursuing this.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

It seems there is a Russian oligarch, Alexander Torshin, who really likes the NRA. Who knew? He is the deputy governor of their central bank, but more interestingly, he has a long history of money-laundering. The Spaniards nearly nailed him, but before his jet landed in Spain someone tipped him off, and he stayed away and avoided arrest. Anyway, Torshin loves the NRA, and met with Trump Jr. at the NRA convention.

Dark money poured into the NRA in a big way. No one knows where it came from, and the NRA gave Trump $30 million- three times as much as Romney. A conservative operator for the NRA named Erickson sent an e-mail to Trump Campaign aide Rick Dearborn entitled “Kremlin Connection.” Erickson wanted to arrange a meeting…

Posted by: phx8 at January 19, 2018 9:08 PM
Comment #423481

Just to be clear, the House released 7 hours of testimony to the public, just like the Senate Judiciary Committee did.

Posted by: phx8 at January 19, 2018 9:10 PM
Comment #423482

pdx8, I just put David Cay Johnston’s new book on order, It’s Even Worse Than You Think:

https://www.acappellabooks.com/pages/books/186782/david-cay-johnston/its-even-worse-than-you-think

Here’s a long interview on that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-2cOAUO_wM

The right wing party is now officially an international criminal conspiracy.

The POS clearly has less actual assets than Bob Mercer, who may just barely be a billionaire. They’re all in it for the money.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 19, 2018 9:22 PM
Comment #423483

Wow Roy not one question answered and blaming some diversion of a “conspiracy” that so far exists only in the minds of douche bags like Hannity for Trumps election help. Oh yeah and immigrants for the problems of the country. Zeig Heil Roy, Goebbels would be proud of the misinformation.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 19, 2018 9:50 PM
Comment #423507
It seems there is a Russian oligarch, Alexander Torshin, who really likes the NRA. Who knew? He is the deputy governor of their central bank, but more interestingly, he has a long history of money-laundering. The Spaniards nearly nailed him, but before his jet landed in Spain someone tipped him off, and he stayed away and avoided arrest. Anyway, Torshin loves the NRA, and met with Trump Jr. at the NRA convention….Posted by: phx8 at January 19, 2018 9:08 PM

Dana Rohrabacher has described Torshin as the “conservatives” favorite russian:

http://www.newsweek.com/alexander-torshin-donald-trump-jr-meeting-716095

Posted by: ohrealy at January 20, 2018 1:56 PM
Comment #423511

We are pleased that our Pals on the Left Wing, using “dial-a’drama” to trash President Trump, are so preoccupied with this nonsense.

Real investigations are occurring with possible devastating consequences for their political (past and present) leaders.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 20, 2018 5:17 PM
Comment #423512

Some reliable sources have said that the DNC is close to collapse. Collapse is not anticipated by me, but the DNC has a huge job of bringing the disparate members together again in time for the 2018 elections.

Should some past, or present, party leaders be implicated in serious wrongdoing in the last election; look for the party to break like crystal falling on the floor.

Donna Brazile Exposes DNC and Hillary Clinton Massive Fraud

https://therightstuffnews.com/2017/11/02/donna-brazile-exposes-dnc-and-hillary-clinton-massive-fraud/

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 20, 2018 7:44 PM
Comment #423516
Then, in 2016 a populist came out of nowhere and his vision for the country threatened the very idea of globalisation. Corpocracy set about to make sure this populist had no chance at being elected President.

It seems Roy that you have been played. Trump did make a lot of promises but then once in office has been the ultimate corporate establishment president. Yet you cover for him as you continue to fall for the “immigrants are the problem” ruse used by Stalin, Hitler and now Trump.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-con-american-workers_us_5a622fd5e4b0125fd6365bf4?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Posted by: j2t2 at January 20, 2018 9:59 PM
Comment #423531

Speaking of cons…

By now a few of the gullible realize the ‘memo’ is a cut and paste job put together by Republican staffers from the House Intelligence Committee. Oh dear.

What I really want to know is why so many Evangelical Christians support politicians like Trump and Moore. They apparently are ok with Trump’s extra-marital affair with a p*stars who administered spankings with a Forbes Magazine, and they are ok with paying off a person like Stormy Daniels getting paid $130,000 in hush money. Or at any rate, it is not a deal breaker. Such moral flexibility! And 48% of them voted for Roy Moore, so apparently it is also ok for middle aged men to call the main desk at the high school and page teen age girls out of their Trigonometry class in order to ask for a date! Golly! S*x with teenage girls and p*stars is ok with these people! Pretty much. You know.

Ah, who can say what is right and wrong in this crazy world? Except Christian Evangelicals. They definitely can say. Unless it involves s*x with p*stars and teenage g*rls and p*ssy grabbing.

Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2018 10:52 AM
Comment #423535

Phx8, I personally was relieved to find out it was spanking not golden showers, so I’m thinking these holier than thou types are as relieved it wasn’t worse.

It’s Sunday and still the secret memo seen by only a few, and those few are Trump operatives, is not released. What does it take? We keep hearing from the Hannity followers it will be this week, every week and still nothing! I think the latest right wing vast conspiracy will fizzle. I wonder what the disappointment will do to the Trump appeasers as they have hung their hat on this fabricated POS for some time.

Reminds me of the old Dylan song “Any day now I shall be released”.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 21, 2018 12:06 PM
Comment #423538

Maybe Democratics have lied so much they are not believed any longer. Every one of their pearl clutching, traumatizing, hand wringing, spastic, incidents have been splattered for months in the media nothing comes of it. It’s fake news.

Why should we believe anything Democratics say. They’re liars! You guys, the Democratic’s peons, have been getting fed lies for a hundred years. The rest of the country are finally fed up with it. (pun intended)

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 21, 2018 1:29 PM
Comment #423550

Stormy Daniels is running an advertising campaign, “Make America H*rny Again!”

Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal has been pretty quite so far. Her adulterous affair with Trump generated a $150,000 payday.

Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2018 7:51 PM
Comment #423551

Just to be clear, McDougal’s big payday came courtesy of the National Inquirer. You know. Roger Stone, Trump’s good friend. They paid her $150,000 for her story, and then suppressed the story.

Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2018 7:53 PM
Comment #423552

If those stories of affairs are true phx8 at least he paid with HIS money and not taxpayers like most democrats and some republicans have.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 21, 2018 8:09 PM
Comment #423553
Just to be clear, McDougal’s big payday came courtesy of the National Inquirer. You know. Roger Stone, Trump’s good friend. They paid her $150,000 for her story, and then suppressed the story. Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2018 7:53 PM

David Pecker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3k7K-oPcqs
Ted Cruz on DirT, Roger Stone and David Pecker “Hatchet man” planting the Enquirer rumors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA9-cAiUZxM
Michael Savage to DirT: Stay away from Natl Enquirer head David Pecker or I may withdraw support

Posted by: ohrealy at January 21, 2018 9:10 PM
Comment #423563

Well Roy your weird conspiracy claims got me to finally look at what was going on that would have these far right nut cases making such false claims.

Let me make sure I’ve got this right. The conspiracy is based upon the House Intel Committee , Nunes some supposed FISA abuses and two FBI agents out of 35,000 texting something about Adolph being a twit. The way I understand it Nunes has a file that he shows only to certain Trump supporting fools and they all claim it is very disturbing. But they haven’t showed it to any Dens in the Intel Committee. Or released it to the public even though there is nothing stopping them from doing so.

So this has caused the conservative propaganda machine to spin some tales that you guys, the devoted A.S.Trump followers, think this means your guy isn’t a money laundering tool of Putin and the Russian oligarch. That he is being picked on by “The Establishment”!

Is that about right. Oh and you guys don’t question any of it, you blindly accept whatever these flame baiting propagandists tell you to without question. Oh and you guys have been giving us the “I shall be released” battle cry that puts all those that have investigated Trump in jail along with the Clintons Obama and other conservative targets from the past. Despite the failure of Nunes to release that “proof” of his.

I really don’t know why cognitive dissonance is so powerful in the conservative mindset other than to say the propaganda is top shelf. But you guys really need to take a moment to reflect on things. You are being played. This diversion, and that seems to be what it is a diversion from the Trump campaign investigation and a means to discredit the investigators working the Trump investigation.

Zeig Heil Roy Zeig Heil. You guys and the people of Germany before Hitler took power.

Meanwhile back in reality the politically motivated assault on the FBI is continuing because you guys perpetrate it.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/22/579209787/criminal-cabal-fbi-fears-political-attacks-may-imperil-work-of-field-agents

Posted by: j2t2 at January 22, 2018 11:28 AM
Comment #423565

While we are at it guys do you find it alright that Trump while being investigated by the FBI wanted Sessions to do a purge of the FBI! Do any lights and bells come on when this stuff happens?

Posted by: j2t2 at January 22, 2018 1:33 PM
Comment #423567

From what we are finding out about some of the agents IMO that would be a good idea,j2

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2018 2:26 PM
Comment #423568

FOX knows this is happening. What will they do?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/01/22/schumershutdown-was-russian-bots-top-hashtag-group-says.html

Interesting developments coming from the combination of social media, fringe Republicans, FOX, and Russian bots. Thanks to Russian bots, #releasethememo trended highly and even received some coverage in the MSM. Two things make it interesting: 1) the memo is a four pager put together Nunes and his people. No one is being allowed to see it except sympathetic Republicans. Not even the FBI is being allowed to see it. Nothing is preventing Nunes from actually releasing it, and 2) Russian bots are becoming very sophisticated at helping Trump. They went through a lot of testing to reach this level of sophistication and effectiveness. During the election, 1,000 Russian generated social media accounts were forwarded by 670,000 real Americans.

Those people have received e-mails warning that they have been targeted by Russian propaganda.

Now we are seeing something similar with #schumershutdown. Initially, #Trumpshutdown was popular by a wide margin, but with the help of Russian bots, the Trump version trended. In the linked article FOX lists popular Russian bot boosts:

schumershutdown
releasethememo
MAGA

Posted by: phx8 at January 22, 2018 3:48 PM
Comment #423569
Roy wrote: Then, in 2016 a populist came out of nowhere and his vision for the country threatened the very idea of globalisation. Corpocracy set about to make sure this populist had no chance at being elected President. The GOP ran some 16 primary candidates against him. All ex-Presidents railed against him. A dossier called Fusion GPS was created to vilify Trump. Later, the DEM’s bought the dossier and used it to gain FISA warrants that allowed US intel agencies to spy on Trump and his associates. The MSM has worked tirelessly to bring the impeachment effort to fruition. Even now, as we know the truth, there are many GOP’ers and Dem corpocratists, elites, MSM and multi hundreds of business and institution leaders working to take Trump down.

And remember the NOV-2016 election polls?
They all had Hillary winning by massive margins.
The MSM cannot be trusted (especially MSNBC).

I heard Obama say the other day that Fox News was on “another planet”. Well, Fox News is not the worst, but Obama didn’t say a thing about any other FAKE NEWS stations (such as MSNBC), since they rarely (if ever) criticize anything he ever did.

Yes, the Corpocracy tried very hard, but could not find a candidate to beat Trump. Why? Because a rare thing happened. Enough Republican voters got so sick-and-tired of the Repugnican and Democrap establishments, that they decided an outsider is the only hope of draining the swamp.

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 22, 2018 3:59 PM
Comment #423570

Hmmm…was I dreaming, or did I miss a Democrat ordered government shutdown?

Guess even the ms media couldn’t hide the truth about what occurred.

We all give praise to Schumer. He just widened the chasm in the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 22, 2018 5:09 PM
Comment #423572

I was watching MSNBC, and they twisted themselves into pretzels to lay the blame all on Trump and Republicans, when it was Chuck Schumer who started the filibuster, which then requires 60 votes (instead of 51).

Then MSNBC and Chuck Schumer and other Democrats said the Rebublicans have control of the House, Sentate, and White House, as if everyone is so stupid that they don’t know that it takes 60 votes (instead of 51) to by-pass Chuck Schumer’s filibuster.

The Democrats obviously think that no one remembers that the Democrats did nothing about passing a DACA-like bill when the Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and control of the House and White House too (for a total of 5 months in year 2009). All despite Obama making campaign promises to do something about it.

Trump did say he would sign any bill they bring to him, but they never brought a bill to him, because Democrats wanted amnesty for Dreamers, but not anything required to stop the problem from repeating again, again, and again (i.e. the Democrats wanted a clean bill with nothing about border security, eliminating chain-migration, the immigration lottery, eVerify, enforcement of existing immigration laws, and prosecution of greedy employers). Without those simultaneous changes, the amnesty is pointless, and the flood of illegal immigrants will continue (as it did after the Reagan amnesty of 1986). I guess Chuck Schumer and Democrats are hoping no one remembers that too.

Many Democrats obviously want wide-open borders.
Why?
That smiley Luis Gutierrez doesn’t want a wall, but he said he would help build the wall in return for passing DACA. But Luis Gutierrez also won’t gree to anything required to stop the problem from repeating again, again, and again.
Why?

Well, people are catching on to the Democrats game-plan which consists of pandering and promises of amnesty and citizenship, in the hopes to grow the Democrat voting base when they receive amnesty and citizenship.
700,000 DACA immigrants, and then their families too (via chain-migration) means 4 million new Democrat voters.
That is despicable !.
And the Democrats have been doing it for decades.
Many Republicans are culpable too, because they like cheap labor.
Pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants (or even huge numbers of legal immigrants) against each other for votes and profits is despicable !

Did anyone hear anyone on MSNBC pointing out these facts ?!?

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, … , at least, possibly, until rewarding corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at January 22, 2018 6:34 PM
Comment #423573

RF,
You haven’t figured it out yet? That was a warning shot across the bow- three week Continuing Resolution (CR). Keeping the government open beyond February 12th requires McConnell to make good on his “intention”, namely, regular order for immigration legislation, debate on the floor, amendments, and passage by the 8th. IF that happens, it changes the balance of power in the Senate from the hard right GOP minority, to a coalition of moderate Democratic and Republican Senators.

Too many in the GOP are unwilling to go along with hard right, hateful politicians like Trump, Kelly, Miller, Senator Bates Motel Cotton & Senator Perdue. McConnell may just be so disgusted with Trump that he will allow a coalition that controls MORE than 60 votes to call the shots, one that can, if they choose, override presidential vetos.

What Schumer did was brilliant. Let’s see how it looks in three weeks, and whether McConnell follows through on his “intention.”

Posted by: phx8 at January 22, 2018 6:38 PM
Comment #423575

“What Schumer did was brilliant.”

Hmmm…you are reading different assessments than I am phx8. Even the ACLU was highly critical of Schumer.

A few days ago I wrote about the “fractured” Democrat National Party. The infighting continues between the Hillary and Sanders faction. The DNC is still deeply in debt and big money donors are nowhere to be found. Black voter polling has seen an increase of approval for the president that has risen from seven to fourteen percent. A similar polling result has been seen for Hispanic voters.

I want comprehensive immigration reform as do my friends and many in the Republican Party let by President Trump.

What do you want phx8?

What is wrong with “legal immigration” with invitations extended to those we desire, not those who sneak across our borders in the dead of night.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 22, 2018 6:54 PM
Comment #423576

Back to the Nunes situation, as part of the transition team, Nunes fielded calls from foreign leaders trying to reach Michael Flynn. These were most likely incidentally collected by US intelligence agencies as part of other investigations. Hence all his concerns about unmasking, besides Flynn now supposedly cooperating in the investigation. Ryan is just as guilty of obstruction as Nunes.

After the tax bill passed, Ryan got a $500K donation from the Kochs, and more from some others, which was the whole point of the bill, even though he claims he may not even be running again.

On the FBI issue, I can’t really get excited about it. They acted as partisans of Dumpty before the election. Mueller is also one of their partisans, and will probably not pursue the most serious charges against the Traitor in Chief.

On Real Time this weekend, Michael Wolfe said that Dumpty was most likely having an affair in the WH, but he said he didn’t have “the blue dress”. Speculation runs to KAC as most likely, also Nicky Haley Bikini, which I doubt, and poor Hope Hicks, which I also doubt. I’m still holding out for Pam Bondi until we get confirmation. I don’t see this nazi bastard going for any not-blonde.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 22, 2018 7:02 PM
Comment #423584

Gorka has a warrant against him on weapons charges in Hungary since at least September 17, 2016 and through the whole time he “worked” in the WH. Nice vetting. We’ve had an extradition treaty with Hungary since 1996.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 22, 2018 7:53 PM
Comment #423585

ohrealy,
I’ve wondered about Nunes too. What did he do while on the Trump transition team. He has gone to extraordinary lengths to cover for Trump. Is he compromised?

It is true the top leadership of the DOJ & FBI are all Republicans. What Comey did to HRC was terrible. Still, I believe Republicans will put country over party in an investigation of Russian actions against the country and on behalf of Trump, before and after the election.

Meanwhile, the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels may have violated the law. The situation is similar to the prosecution of John Edwards when he tried to cover payments to his mistress.

RF,
Progressives are disappointed with Schumer’s decision for two reasons: 1) It requires trusting McConnell, and 2) Progressives want results now. Today. Not three weeks from now.

It is naïve to think comprehensive immigration reform will take place today. However, renewing DACA is very achievable.

As for immigration, I would be fine with open borders. By that, I mean no quotas. The criteria for coming to the US would be wanting to come to the US. Requirements would be passing a security clearance and taking a one day citizenship class. Skilled and unskilled, rich and poor alike are welcome to take a chance, and seek opportunity in America for themselves and their children.

By the way, that would address demographic problems for the economy, stop illegal immigration, and end under-the-table payments to undocumented workers.

Posted by: phx8 at January 22, 2018 9:11 PM
Comment #423586
phx8 wrote: As for immigration, I would be fine with open borders.

HHMmmmmm …

What do you think would happen if there were no limits and the only requirement was “… passing a security clearance and taking a one day citizenship class” ?

What do you think would be the cost for back-ground/security clearance on the unlimited (perhaps tens or hundreds) of millions) that would flood across the borders?

Also, what do you think would be effects on the healthcare system, hospitals that are already over-run (many closing along the U.S./Mexico borders), education systems, welfare, medicaid, crime, law enforcement, insurance systems, human and drug traficing, prisons, etc., etc., etc.?
Currently, 32% of all illegal immigrants receive some form of welfare. 70% of babies born at Parkland Hospital (2006) were by illegal immigrants. Who do you think is paying for most of that?

And what about people crossing open borders with malevolent intentions?
Currently, 33% of everyone in federal prison is a illegal immigrant.
Some studies show that illegal immigrants cost the U.S. as much as $327 Billion per year in net losses.
USA Today reported (www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/) on 02-SEP-2015 that 51% of all immigrants (legal and illegal) households receive welfare (compared to 32% for U.S. citizen households).
By the way, how does some low-life scum bag (Jose Ines Carcia Zarate) murder a woman (Kate Steinle) and then get acquited (not even charged with manslaugher)?
How did that happen?
Perhaps you have to consider where it happened (California; a state with open borders)?

We can be enriched by controlled and legal immigration.
But, we are not enriched by uncontrolled, massive, immigration (legal or not), because it creates chaos, increases crime rates, and creates societal disorder. Almost every conntry that did that has tried it has discovered just that.

Just asking … there might be a few minor things to consider before declaring “open borders” ?

Posted by: d.a.n at January 22, 2018 10:00 PM
Comment #423587
Still, I believe Republicans will put country over party in an investigation of Russian actions against the country and on behalf of -rump, before and after the election. Posted by: phx8 at January 22, 2018 9:11 PM

I don’t have faith in that. I used to defend their local partisans, but I can’t anymore. Former Senator Kirk and current governor Rauner have destroyed that. The least objectionable still barely accept that this is the twenty-first century. Those a little worse don’t like twentieth century developments. Those worse than them don’t like nineteenth century developments, and the worst of all don’t like eighteenth century developments, ie, enlightenment versus fanaticism. These people are a burden to this country, as opposed to immigrants, who are a breath of fresh air.

As I said before, their most significant accomplishment was making China great again. Now they think russia will save them. “russia, if you’re listening, please help me russia, and you’ll be mightily rewarded.” OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Posted by: ohrealy at January 22, 2018 10:19 PM
Comment #423652

On Monday phx8 wrote; “What Schumer did was brilliant.”

The next day phx8 wrote; “Progressives are disappointed with Schumer’s decision for two reasons:”

Please tell us what you really, really believe phx8.

Demonstrators are now protesting outside Schumer’s home and he says he can’t sleep. Poor Thing!

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 24, 2018 6:48 PM
Comment #423681
Thanks to Russian bots, #releasethememo trended highly and even received some coverage in the MSM.

Looks like phx8 is wrong again. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/23/rreport-american-accounts-not-russian-bots-behind-releasethememo-trending/

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 25, 2018 10:40 AM
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