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Finally - The Dots Have Been Connected

Hannity and his sources related this evening that the FUSION GPS document WAS bought by the DNC/Clinton’s. Also related that that the FDOJ/FBI used the document to gain FISA warrants to spy on Trump and associates. And more, the House Intel Cmte has connected the dots as to top FBI officials working with the Obama admin to take Trump down.

A most entertaining year, the most entertaining year, perhaps in US history, By far, the worst political corruption ever. Just try to realize the scope of it. The GOP and DEM establishment, CIA, FBI, DOJ, Homeland Security, mainstream media, hundreds or thousands of talking heads, retired dem's and so on . . . It is just mind boggling. Lock em up !

Still, the big takeaway is that narrowly, somehow, the US gov't/constitution was able to survive such a huge, pervasive attack.

Imagine that Hillary won the election. Just try and wrap yer mind around that . . . .

Further, if a GOP'er had won none of this would have ever surfaced. The world would have gone on, just business as usual.

Posted by Roy Ellis at January 10, 2018 10:14 PM
Comments
Comment #423167

It was just a matter of time Roy. I hope all the “low life’s” involved receive long prison terms.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 11, 2018 3:53 PM
Comment #423171

So everyone is against Trump- Democrats, Republicans, the DOJ, FBI, CIA, the MSM, Homeland Security, hundreds of thousands of talking heads-

In other words, everyone except Trump supporters.

So, if we could just “lock up” all those people, purge the deep state, and have a one-party government of Trump supporters, that would ensure the survival of the Constitution.

I see.

Posted by: phx8 at January 11, 2018 6:00 PM
Comment #423176

phx8 finally has an idea I can get behind!

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 11, 2018 7:06 PM
Comment #423179

Finally, impeachment material the dems can really dig into and win.

“President Donald Trump reportedly questioned in a White House meeting on Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from “s***hole countries,” referring to Haiti, El Salvador, and African countries.”

That was wrong for the president to say. Am I inclined to agree with him? Take a guess. I wouldn’t live in any of those countries.

But then, his defeated democrat challenger, Hillary (Bill’s wife) Clinton, called half of Americans “deplorable”.

Hmmm…which is worse?

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 11, 2018 7:39 PM
Comment #423183

Quite a day. In the midst of a debate and negotiation over immigration, the president wondered why the US should accept people from “s***hole” countries, instead of people from Norway.

Sigh.

As we know, Trump no longer attends morning briefings. He shows up for work at 11:00 AM. He spends his mornings now in “executive time,” which consists of watching FOX, tweeting, and making phone calls. This morning he watched a FOX whacko, Judge Napolitano, denounce the upcoming 702 legislation. Trump then tweeted a denunciation. The problem is that his administration officially favors renewing the legislation. After frantic phone calls and a long conversation with Speaker Ryan, Trump reversed his position with another tweet.

By the way, this way not the first time Napolitano led Trump into a humiliating position. Last year Napolitano was the one who said Obama had wiretapped Trump. Trump believed him, and led Trump to make horrible, baseless accusations against his predecessor which Trump’s own DOJ and intelligence operations investigated and publicly concluded were false. Napolitano is a notorious purveyor of conspiracies, and FOX suspended him for that beaut, but for some reason let him back on the air.

There is no bottom with Trump, just a long, endless fall.

I’m halfway through the Wolff book, “Fire and Fury.” Its basic premise is correct and the events of the past few days just go to show its accuracy. Trump is ill prepared, impulsive, and temperamentally unfit for the office. He is a student of no one and of nothing. He does not read and he does not listen. He is vindictive and angry at times, yet pathetically easy to manipulate with praise. These are not really controversial statements. Everyone has realized it for some time. The book just pulled it together and it makes fascinating, horrifying reading. Yeah. Trump really is that bad.

Posted by: phx8 at January 12, 2018 12:11 AM
Comment #423191
the president wondered why the US should accept people from “s***hole” countries, instead of people from Norway. Posted by: phx8 at January 12, 2018 12:11 AM

President Sh!thole wonders about everything, like a child who doesn’t know anything. We already got our immigrants from Normay a long time ago. Now people want to emigrate to Normay or even Norway. I don’t know why foreign leaders want to come here, except maybe to have their picture taken with the clown. Look, grandchildren, I met one of these idiots who got elected in The US before he went to prison, a russian puppet who single-handedly destroyed the credibility of his own country to try and enrich his crooked family. He tried to reduce his country’s stature to the level of Argentine. People living on islands in Lake Titicaca are laughing at this fool.

Posted by: ohrealy at January 12, 2018 7:50 AM
Comment #423193

And yet he gets elected to the highest office in the land.

How does phx8 appear to be sitting on Trump’s shoulder 24/7 to get such detailed information. Please tell us where you got your crystal ball, or are you the guy listening to the “wire taps”?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 12, 2018 10:05 AM
Comment #423195

Why do people from third world countries want to come to the U. S. or Norway, it’s because they are s××thole countries. The president shouldn’t have said “s××thole” he should have used a milder term.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 12, 2018 11:11 AM
Comment #423196

At least he made his point. I like Trump’s straight talk. At least you know where he stands. It’s not like some milquetoast politician choosing words that don’t “offend” either side. I know what he meant. Compared to the U.S. those countries aren’t worth crap!

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 12, 2018 11:42 AM
Comment #423197

Around the world foreign governments are calling American ambassadors and officials in to explain Trump’s comments. The visit to open the new American Embassy in London has been cancelled. Trump explained:

“Reason I canceled my trip to London is that I am not a big fan of the Obama Administration having sold perhaps the best located and finest embassy in London for “peanuts,” only to build a new one in an off location for 1.2 billion dollars. Bad deal. Wanted me to cut ribbon-NO!”

Except that is a lie. Bush did the deal in October 2008. But Trump lies so frequently, that particular lie seems trivial. Did Trump just disparage his predecessor with a lie? We’re too busy dealing with his latest overtly racist comments to even pay attention. The British press reports the obvious- Trump’s presence would result in huge protests by our closest ally. Tillerson will substitute.

Posted by: phx8 at January 12, 2018 12:06 PM
Comment #423198

Phx8, The embassy process may have been started in 2008 but ground wasn’t broken for it until 2013 in which Obama had plenty of time to cancel the plans. So with that being said IMO both Bush and more so Obama are to blame more so Obama because it was built on his watch.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at January 12, 2018 12:29 PM
Comment #423200

KAP,
You have got to be kidding.

And do you seriously believe Trump cancelled the visit because the embassy was a “bad deal”? If that was the case, the visit to the opening would not have been scheduled in the first place.

Face it. Trump has no credibility. And the reason he has none is that he lies almost constantly, and he is lying about this, and you know it. And as often as not, his lies and slurs and constant name calling are aimed at the same people- Obama, Hillary Clinton, Democrats, Sloppy Steve Bannon, Lyin’ Ted Cruz, virtually everyone… except Putin.

Posted by: phx8 at January 12, 2018 1:11 PM
Comment #423201

phx8, Did I mention anything about Trump and cancelling his visit to London? NO! I could care less why he cancelled it. I commented on your blaming Bush soley for the new embassy. I just wanted to prove how phony your fact checking is since the embassy was built on Obama’s watch.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 12, 2018 1:24 PM
Comment #423204

The moral “preening” and supposed outrage by our Pals on the Left over another Trump “truism” is humorous.

How often have we heard and read the Liberal explanation as to why we can’t return illegals to these countries? It is because they are “shithole” places with blinding poverty, rampant crime, and tyrannical governments.

Just for clarity Pals, immigration is not intended to relieve suffering in other nations. We do that with our charitable giving. Do Liberals actually know why we have legal immigration?

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 12, 2018 3:13 PM
Comment #423206

Has anyone heard from our Pal Warren Porter since the MMGW blizzard and record cold on the East Coast?

He is missed by me. I do hope all is well with him and look forward to his speedy return to WB.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 12, 2018 3:27 PM
Comment #423208

“I do hope all is well with him and look forward to his speedy return to WB.”

As do I, Royal.

Posted by: kctim at January 12, 2018 4:05 PM
Comment #423210
The embassy process may have been started in 2008 but ground wasn’t broken for it until 2013 in which Obama had plenty of time to cancel the plans.

KAP Trump spouted nonsense because h needed an out and you guys fall for anything that blames Obama. As we see you defending Trump with this inane “Obama had plenty of time to cancel the plans” we have to wonder why you guys allow Trump so much leeway with truth and integrity. He was wrong and he is using Obama to save face.

First the US didn’t own the building it was leased. The lease was sold. Secondly it was designed in the 60’s and didn’t meet security needs, To bring it to standards would have costed more than the building was worth. The preliminary contracts were in place by the time Obama took office so even if the deal was a bad deal, which of course it wasn’t,it was to late to back out.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/12/donald-trump/trump-wrongly-faults-obama-london-embassy-move/

Posted by: j2t2 at January 12, 2018 4:47 PM
Comment #423211

j2, Was the embassy built during Obama’s Presidency? Yes the process was started under Bush. But the FACT is Obama could have stopped or negotiated a better deal. As far as Trump, as I stated, I don’t give a RAT’s A** why he cancelled the trip to London. As far as his remarks about those third world countries he told the truth they are S**THOLES as are some of our inner cities here that are represented by and lead by Democrats.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 12, 2018 4:59 PM
Comment #423214
Was the embassy built during Obama’s Presidency?

KAP, seriously a better deal on an embassy in London! Why because Trump says so? Why don’t you require a shred of proof from someone that misinforms or lies on average 4 times a day? Trump says that after the property was bought Obama could have went back and got a better deal, and you fall for it. Contracts already signed, site chosen and the very first thing Obama should have done was ……seriously KAP!

Based solely on Trump telling you it was a bad deal, without offering up a shred of proof to prove it was in fact a bad deal you believe Obama messed up and didn’t stop the building of the new embassy! Unbelievable. The idiot in chief even had the wrong figure when he babbled his BS! Yet it was a bad deal and our mindless conservative friends all agree! You have been deceived about something you don’t even care about, the reason Trump told us he wasn’t going to London!

The Ambassador at the time led the search for a new site, chose the best available, yet Trump says it isn’t good so I won’t go to London. Because Trump knows London so much better than the Ambassador that lived and worked there. I say BS and you guys have fallen for a line that would embarrass most men.
Yep the dots have been connected alright….


Posted by: j2t2 at January 12, 2018 6:31 PM
Comment #423215

j2, If you were building a house would you go to a politician for advice or would you go to a real estate developer? I would say both Bush and Obama both got PISS POOR advice. As far as the lies go j2 Democrats ain’t no better it’s like the pot calling the kettle black. j2 if you are more then 5 years old you should know by now politics is based on lies.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 12, 2018 6:51 PM
Comment #423216

j2t2 apparently is unaware of the savings President Trump has made for American taxpayers by renegotiating contracts approved by previous administrations. Here’s is just one example.

“(CNN)Defense giant Lockheed Martin has agreed to sell 90 new F-35 fighter jets to the US Defense Department for $8.5 billion — a deal that amounts to more than $700 million in savings over the last batch of aircraft delivered.
Lockheed Martin credited President Donald Trump for helping to “accelerate negotiations” and “drive down the price” of what is already the most expensive weapons program in history.s”

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/f-35-lockheed-martin-cost-reduction/index.html

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 12, 2018 6:56 PM
Comment #423218

If you were building a house would you go to a politician for advice or would you go to a real estate developer?

Well you guys went to a real estate developer to run the government and we can see thats not working out so well. Truthfully what I would do about advice on building a house isn’t relevant to the US building an embassy ….Jesus Christ no wonder Trump makes sense to you guys. He builds hotels not embassies.

I mean my god guys do you think this is the first embassy the government has built overseas? Do you think the OBO is a bunch of guys who watched a video on how to build a house and then went to London to build the new embassy? I guess we could have saved a few bucks by bringing in Polish laborers and paying them under the…or just screwing them out of their pay like Trump is known to do.

I would say both Bush and Obama both got PISS POOR advice.

Based on what KAP? On Trump saying it was a bad deal so he won’t go to London! Show us the proof of Trumps excuse. When you are wrong on the price your credibility takes a hit guys, it shows Trump didn’t have the facts, he was blustering because he felt the need to blame someone else for not going to London.

Probably would have missed a golf outing had he went. Already has tripled the number of times Obama played golf in his first year. The hypocrisy of the man, I mean after criticizing Obama along with you guys and now its all good!


As far as the lies go j2 Democrats ain’t no better it’s like the pot calling the kettle black.

Were that true KAP you would be able to point to a Obama and be able to honestly say he lied or mislead 4 times a day on average the past year and have proof to back it up, can you do that?
I can

Posted by: j2t2 at January 12, 2018 7:51 PM
Comment #423219

j2, Obama lies 1)Shovel ready jobs, 2) You can keep your plan if you like it 3) You can keep your Doctor. 4) You will save $2500. 5) He will be the most transparent admin. seems he wasn’t very transparent. As far as the Embassy goes I would rather take the word of someone who knows what he is doing in the way of Real Estate development then I would the adviser Bush and Obama had. Also j2 as I stated I don’t give a flying you know what why Trump decided to not go to London.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 12, 2018 8:27 PM
Comment #423220

j2t2, you’re way out of date, President Sh!thole passed the 2000 lies mark earlier this week;

Kimmel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQruDaf7bKs

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-trump-shithole-countries-20180111-story.html

Posted by: ohrealy at January 12, 2018 9:02 PM
Comment #423275

j2

“Well you guys went to a real estate developer to run the government and we can see thats not working out so well.”

It seems to be working out far better than going to a community organizer. We can see what 8 years of that got us.

Posted by: dbs at January 15, 2018 8:27 AM
Comment #423335

Working out good for who dbs, the health insurance companies? Seems Trump has bungled healthcare to the point it is a luxury only the wealthy can afford.

https://www.marketplace.org/2017/10/05/health-care/uncertainty-healthcare-premiums-increase-2018-50-percent

Posted by: j2t2 at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM
Comment #423336

Seems the Trump administration cannot walk and talk at the same time without tripping on their incompetence.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/ct-park-service-panel-resignations-20180116-story.html

Posted by: j2t2 at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM
Comment #423338

I guess consider this far better dbs
“The United States retreated from its traditional role as both a champion and an exemplar of democracy amid an accelerating decline in American political rights and civil liberties.”

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2018

Posted by: j2t2 at January 16, 2018 11:38 PM
Comment #423339

Good for who exactly dbs?

“President Trump’s “America First” slogan, originally coined by isolationists seeking to block U.S. involvement in the war against fascism, targeted traditional notions of collective global security and mutually beneficial trade.”

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2018

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