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​Happy Shiny People Have Six Ways From Sunday - Bruce & Nellie

It’s not shocking. Sorry. But it just isn’t. It may be outrageous. It may indeed be, and have been, an attempt at a soft coup against a newly elected President of the United States. But it’s not shocking. And yes, that’s a rather cynical attitude. Can anyone cast blame?

Every day - as the sexual scandals on the Hill are revealed to perhaps number at least 40 but until Congress reforms its laws we'll never really know except by leaks will we? - there has also been a steady drip of compromising detail on both the FBI and the DOJ and their increasingly sordid relationship with the Trump/Russia Dossier, courtesy of Christopher Steele, and also a Fusion GPS production with the DNC and the Hillary campaign as executive producers. To use a little Hollywood language that Harvey Weinstein would be comfortable with.

The latest in the rather reptilian slithering that's being revealed is that Bruce Ohr - Associate Attorney General at the Department of Justice; not an inconsequential position - was demoted from his role as Associate AG for meeting with both Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS's founder and head. Ohr will now focus on Drug Enforcement and Organized Crime, the other hat he was wearing at DOJ.

But that's just the beginning. Bruce Ohr's wife, Nellie Ohr, an academic who specializes in Russian studies, worked directly for Fusion GPS for at least several months back in 2016. If you're going to dig up dirt, you make sure you get the best possible help, right? Bruce and Nellie: happy shiny people in the beltway. Managing America's affairs on your behalf.

Over at the FBI, super agent Peter Strzok was involved in both the Hillary private server probe and the Russia/Trump probe. He was in on the meeting that decided to change the wording that referred to the former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, from:

Grossly negligent to extremely careless.

He was the same frickin' FBI agent who last January interviewed just appointed National Security Advisor Mike Flynn - who only realized it was a formal interrogation halfway through - that produced the denials by Flynn that have now resulted in charges against him. And super guy Stzrok was the agent accused of sending politically biased text messages to a colleague. The bias was against ... do I even have to say who?

But no. This is not shocking. Look, the FBI is J. Edgar Hoover's creation. He ran it like a personal fiefdom for half a century and he had probably at that time the best opposition research in the country on most major political figures on both sides of the aisle. People were terrified of him. The Kennedy's were willing to take on the intel community and try to bring them back under the White House's purview. They were unable to even attempt that with the FBI.

So rather than be shocked, better to be skeptical and wary of the FBI and the intel community and the bureaucratic state at large. They know each other. They work together. They get married and divorced. They have affairs and ruin each other's careers. And above and beyond all that, the employees and managers of the administrative state are overwhelmingly progressive nowadays, something J. Edgar could never have been accused of. But his dirty tactics are in the very foundation of the institution. Many good men and women have served and are serving at the FBI and some have died working for the FBI. But the fact that the FBI and the DOJ might also be politically partisan forces out to discredit President Trump, is not something unheard of and shocking. It's an old story.

Chuck Schumer let it slip in that malevolent display on Sunday Talk way back last January:

Six ways from Sunday to get back at you. Indeed.

Posted by AllardK at December 12, 2017 8:00 PM
Comment #422384

As an American I am deeply disturbed how low the country has fallen under Trump. All of the fake news and alternative facts of the Trump administration is more typical of a banana republic dictator than a 1st world democracy. His followers are lost in this tribal circling of the wagons and are so emotional in their thinking they cannot see the damage being done to this country by the lowlife Trump and his administration. Facts don’t matter to them it is all emotional responses to hide the reality of where we are at.

This USA Today editorial what most Americans think of Trump and his administration.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM
Comment #422386

Geez J2, I understand this Allard guy just drops a thread here and there without any further contribution to the site, but you could at least try to address the topic a little bit before going into full on deflect mode.

IF you really want to discuss this supposed reality and the damage you see, perhaps you could offer some actual facts to back up your claims? You know, instead of all this “argh Trump disagree’s with me so he’s the devil and destroying the world” jibberish.

Posted by: kctim at December 13, 2017 12:59 PM
Comment #422388

Jeez kctim, I thought I was on topic. The alternative facts and fake news Trump and his lawyers use to attack the FBI is simply unbelievable. Trying to make the Mueller investigation appear to be just a witch hunt is fake IMHO. It is typical of Trumps modus operandi to falsely attack anyone who disagrees with him.

IMHO only a banana republic dictator would try to cover up his actions by throwing all these false flags up questioning those doing the investigating. Trumps track record as indicated in the link above speaks for itself. He can’t be trusted.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 13, 2017 2:54 PM
Comment #422391


“Trying to make the Mueller investigation appear to be just a witch hunt is fake IMHO”

It is. Every one on his team are big democrat donors. The appearance of even handedness wasn’t even an after thought let alone a forethought.

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Posted by: slope at December 14, 2017 4:10 AM
Comment #422405

So J2, basically your opinion that President Trump is damaging the country is based on him saying things you don’t like and “all these false flags” that you see everywhere.
Forgive me, but there are other things of much more importance that are actually damaging to a country.

“only a banana republic dictator would try to cover up his actions by throwing all these false flags up questioning those doing the investigating”

Yeah, it’s nothing like some “vast right-wing conspiracy” is it. LOL!

Posted by: kctim at December 14, 2017 9:40 AM
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It is. Every one on his team are big democrat donors. The appearance of even handedness wasn’t even an after thought let alone a forethought.

Spare us the right wing talking points. There has never been any precedent for a taboo against hiring a person who donated money as an investigator. I bet you think George H.W. Bush’s former Solicitor General was adequate for the Whitewater investigation targeting the man who defeated his former boss in 1992.

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