Third Party & Independents Archives

​Trump & Separation of Powers - Not What You Think

As the probes of the supposed Russia connection between the Trump campaign and Kremlin officials and their cyber hackers cast around for actual evidence of collusion, we now have a new front opening up against the president and his administration, courtesy of the Washington Post.

The DOJ’s anti-trust action against AT&T’s acquisition of Time Warner and it’s subsidiary, CNN.

The accusation is that AG Sessions knowing full well Trump's disdain for CNN's coverage of the White House, has launched this lawsuit as a political vendetta against a political opponent of the president. In the WaPo's Daily 202, James Hohmann prepares the groundwork for his paper's call for an inquiry by stating:

Even if a smoking gun never emerges, though, here are seven reasons to be suspicious of the administration's motives.

Now that's called covering all angles, isn't it? There may be no real evidence to support the theory that the DOJ lawsuit is because Trump hates CNN, but here are reasons to believe that that is indeed the motive behind the DOJ's actions. And yes, there may be something to Hohmann's point. The administration has tended to be rather pro-business and has rolled back regulations rather than dictating who merges with who. But some of his seven reasons are a little suspect like the one that complains that the administration's denials are full of lawyerly language that leave wiggle room. How many years has Hohmann been in Washington and did he complain of lawyers and wiggle room during the previous administration?

And in a further reason Hohmann states that Trump has never respected the independence of the Justice Department, so why should he respect the independence of the anti-trust division?

It would be a little too silly to draw an organizational chart of the federal government for someone like James Hohmann who could probably point out what name goes in what tiny little box detailing what division of what agency fits exactly where in the Great Administrative State, but allow me to try.

The U.S. Department of Justice is part of the Executive Branch of government. It is not part of the Judiciary even as it deals on a daily basis with the Judiciary. President Trump is the DOJ's boss. So we are not talking about an intrusion into Judicial independence but rather an administrative policy within the executive that deems it important to allow the DOJ to function with a greater degree of independence than perhaps the State Department or the Treasury.

Do the president's tweets indicate a lack of respect for the judiciary or certain judges, which is the same thing? Yes, they do. But as a counter to the heavy handed combativeness the president has displayed, there is another view on the Trump administration's philosophy towards the other branches of government. In a fascinating piece in the National Review by law professor Josh Blackman.

In a keynote speech to the Federalist Society, White House counsel Don McGahn said this:

Often Congress punts the difficulty of lawmaking to the executive branch, then the judiciary concedes away the judicial power of the Constitution by deferring to (an) agency's interpretation of what Congress's vague statutes (mean) ... The Trump vision of regulatory reform can be summed up in three simple principles: due process, fair notice, and individual liberty.

In other words, key players in Trump's administration seems bent on restoring the separation of powers and curtailing the enormous power of the administrative state - the countless unaccountable agencies which currently rule over so much of voters' daily lives. That means restoring the judiciary to its prominence in a way originally intended by the framers.

Does the president himself actually understand this? More than what many (of us) who flinch at his tweets probably think he does. Let's hope that despite the tweets and the media storms, this underlying process of rolling back the administrative state - something that has never before really happened in modern politics in America - continues.

Posted by AllardK at November 22, 2017 6:53 PM
Comments
Comment #421892

Donald Trump learns as he goes along. I think many of his words are simply his way of letting go a trial balloon. He’s been known to shift his opinion and I think his ability to learn about things on the fly are second to none.

He doesn’t puff his chest and assume he knows everything about every subject the way the swamp politician does. That is what will make Trump a great president.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 22, 2017 10:41 PM
Comment #421910


“He doesn’t puff his chest and assume he knows everything about every subject the way the swamp politician does. That is what will make Trump a great president.”

What planet do you live on? Puffing his chest out is what Trump does. He opens his mouth, sticks his foot in and moves on, leaving his staff to walk back everything he says.
Trump speaks fluent confetti, it’s up to his staff to create a translation.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at November 24, 2017 11:16 AM
Comment #421911

Changing your mind is a sign of intelligence. I respect someone who doesn’t hang onto a position simply because he made the mistake of uttering it.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 24, 2017 12:22 PM
Comment #421912

And, I find in the media’s reporting of what “Trump is…” is usually someone else putting words into his mouth and running with it just to damage him.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 24, 2017 12:25 PM
Comment #421913

So, from now on, if anyone want’s to post what Trump said they should include full video of the remarks, in context.

I think you’d be surprised at how off the mark people can be. It’s like the whisper in the ear chain. It starts out with “Hi, my name is Weary Willie.” 10 people later it’s, “Weary Willie is so high he can’t even remember his name.”

So, from now on, post a video of Trump’s remarks in full and provide context.

Thanks.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 24, 2017 12:46 PM
Comment #421917

I thought the article and WW’s first comment was meant to be sarcastic.

“He doesn’t puff his chest and assume he knows everything about every subject…”

I mean, come on. Who can possibly take that seriously? Trump claimed he knew more than the generals, he would destroy ISIS in 30 days with a secret (non-existent) plan, repeal the ACA on “Day One,” and so on and so on.

And what is a “swamp politician”? Must be one of those Neo-Nazi terms for anyone with a shred of decency.

“… his ability to learn about things on the fly are second to none.”

LOL. Trump’s own Secretary of State called him a “F****** Moron,” and Trump’s own National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster,called him an “idiot” and a “dope” who had the intelligence of a “kindergartner.”

And a little off topic, but the Trump people early in the campaign were so second rate that Steve Bannon called the campaign “The Island of Lost Toys.”

No worries. That’s where the Russians stepped up.

Trump is treason.

Posted by: phx8 at November 24, 2017 4:09 PM
Comment #421934

I, for one, am glad we finally have free thinking people who aren’t afraid to call someone out. Even if it is the president. We need strong leaders now, not limp wrist-ed, milquetoast, liars who are afraid of their own shadows.


Must be one of those Neo-Nazi terms for anyone with a shred of decency.

If that’s what YOU think, phx8, OK. Isn’t it supposed to be a Russian term?

Hate to break this to you phx8, but the definition of secret is something that is generally not known. Not common knowledge, it could be misconstrued to be non-existent!

Where is the Islamic State now, phx8? Have you been paying attention?

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 25, 2017 6:48 PM
Comment #421938

“Where is the Islamic State now, phx8? Have you been paying attention?”

Well, they just slaughtered over 300 Sufi Muslims in the Sinai and wounded over a hundred more. What is your point?

Did you catch that tweet from Trump about withdrawing support from the Kurdish group that defeated ISIS in Syria? He did that at the bidding of the Turks. That is what Flynn took money to do- pimp for the Turks and screw the Kurds.

Two years ago a big time fixer for the Turks was arrested. This guy moved billions for money laundering, gold smuggling, helping Iran fund Hezbollah, ship heroin, and more. There was even a Turkish ‘dossier’ put together by prosecutors that damned the corrupt Erdogan government. Until recently the Erdogan administration was able to keep their thumb on those prosecutors in Turkey. Recently the fixer disappeared even though he was supposed to appear for some trials here in the US.

He flipped.

A few days ago, Flynn’s business partner, Bian Kijan, was subpoenaed. And now Flynn’s defense team has refused any further cooperation with the White House defense lawyers.

Flynn flipped.

Are you paying attention? Because Trump just did the Erdogan administration’s bidding and pulled the rug out from under that Kurdish group that helped defeat ISIS in Syria. And now Flynn is going to sing like a canary about Turkey AND Russia in order to avoid spending the rest of his life in jail, and to keep his idiot son out of jail as well. Are you paying attention?

Trump is treason.

Posted by: phx8 at November 25, 2017 11:18 PM
Comment #421957

Jesus Phx8, you are starting to sound as blind and confused as J2 and all his ‘fascist’ nonsense. Especially after your unquestioning support and defense of Clinton and Obama for things much worse.
Perhaps one day you guys could give some actual proof of your claims, instead of these baseless accusations based totally on hatred for those who disagree with you on abortion, identity politics and redistribution of wealth?

Posted by: kctim at November 27, 2017 9:21 AM
Comment #421959

kctim,
Really? Unquestioning support for things much worse? Like what?

I’m pretty sure neither Obama nor Clinton fired their FBI Directors, and then the next day met with the Russian Ambassador and Foreign Minister-

In the Oval Office.

At the request of Putin.

And told the Russians the pressure was now off the Russian investigation.

I’m pretty sure neither Obama nor Clinton cooperated with a foreign adversary to win an election, and that neither one ever saw their top two Campaign people indicted for “Conspiracy against the United States,” among other things, like money laundering $75 million for the Russians.

Or fired their National Security Advisor 18 days after being informed by the Acting Attorney General that the NSA advisor was compromised? Yeah. That happened.

Supporting an accused pedophile- a guy facing a mountain of evidence, by the way- puts us in some unexplored territory. That guy ran an organization called The Foundation for Moral Law. Seriously! Conservative Christian Evangelical ministers are coming out in favor of him. Some say what he did was ok. Others say it was not, but they will vote for him anyway. Need quotes? There are some real gems out there.

Redistribution of wealth to corporations and the richest of the rich? And adding to the debt and deficit to do it, while raising taxes on the middle class? Nobody is in favor of that except GOP donors, and you know it.

Posted by: phx8 at November 27, 2017 10:12 AM
Comment #421961

It’s the only way they can get what they want, kctim.

For so long all the Democratics had to do was get the media to throw out wild accusations to remove anything or anyone that stood in their way. How many times have you heard all three networks read the same news stories for days and weeks until their opposition had to step down or resign?

The internet, and independent journalists, have exposed how the Democratics and the MSM work together to keep themselves in power. Before these independent sources came into play the Democratics had no opposition in the MSM. They could run anyone out because there was no one who contradicted them allowed on the air. God only knows how many people were falsely accused or stories were greatly exaggerated to where conservatives had to resign because the MSM and the Democratics decided they needed to be eliminated.

phx8 and j2t2 are doing the same thing. They make something up and repeat it over and over. They exaggerate something to the point of foolish and repeat it over and over, hoping we are as ignorant as we were 30 years ago. Good for us, but bad for them that we can see through it. It’s to bad they can’t see how it’s not working for them and we have to suffer through their foolishness every day.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 27, 2017 10:12 AM
Comment #421962

Yes Phx8, your unquestioning support for left-wing politicians is blatant and well documented on here.
While I may not join discussions about Benghazi, the IRS, Fast & Furious, Uranium One etc…, your first inclination was always to simply dismiss charges of wrongdoing by Clinton or Obama before anything is known.
With Clinton’s private email server, you dismissed it as a conspiracy. When it was proven to be fact, you ignored the huge difference between a personal server and a private email account. When you could no longer ignore the facts, you excused her actions as being no big deal.

You praised the ‘Russian reset,’ but now there’s a giant Russian conspiracy. You ignored or excused ‘I’ll have more flexibility after the election,” but now you read into everything said as working for Russians.

“I’m pretty sure neither Obama nor Clinton cooperated with a foreign adversary to win an election”

No, they only worked with foreign adversaries to give them uranium and to release money to a country who funds terrorists.
And stop pretending as if you have actual proof that Trump cooperated with a foreign adversary to win the election. While it’s possible the investigation might lead to that proof, all you have right now are partisan assumptions and individual crimes that took place years ago.

“Supporting an accused pedophile…”

Sigh. None of the accusers were a ‘prepubescent child.’

“Redistribution of wealth to corporations and the richest of the rich?”

Taking less money from someone is not redistributing wealth to them.
Adding to the debt and deficit is wrong, but what we have is a spending problem, not a collection problem.
People can disagree on these without all the divisive hate and BS accusations of Russian or nazi conspiracies.

Posted by: kctim at November 27, 2017 11:44 AM
Comment #421963

“It’s the only way they can get what they want”

Yes it is, Weary. And it’s all based on their refusal to accept the rejection of the policies they support. That alone is what’s responsible for the hatred and divisiveness that has infected our country.

Posted by: kctim at November 27, 2017 11:51 AM
Comment #421968

In 2008, Americans rejected conservatism in vast numbers and Republicans refused to accept it. THAT is why politics are so devise today.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 27, 2017 12:29 PM
Comment #421976

Actually Warren, when Obama won in 2008 the Republicans regrouped and peacefully won on the local and state levels all across the country. There were no riots, no destruction of private and public property, no attacking people for their personal beliefs.
Disagreement? Yes. Hostility between people? No.

The same cannot be said of the left and their actions since 2008.

Posted by: kctim at November 27, 2017 3:07 PM
Comment #421977

The GOP continues sinking lower and lower, and there is no bottom. Today Trump repeated a racial slur directed at Senator Warren, calling her “Pocahontas”… Wait for it… at a ceremony honoring Navajo Code Talkers. Yeah. That happened.

kctim,
Aren’t you forgetting Birtherism? According to polls, half the GOP- and about 60% of Trump supporters- believed Obama in a racist conspiracy theory that Obama was not an American. The same proportions also believed he was a Muslim. It doesn’t get more hateful and hostile than that.

By the way, HRC’s private e-mail server was perfectly legal. The FBI investigated and found no criminal wrongdoing.

As for Moore, just to clarify, he is accused of sexual assault against a 14 year old girl, among other things. Normally pedophilia involves prepubescents, so you’re correct there. It would be more accurate to say he victimized teenage girls and sexually assaulted a 14 year old. It’s a pretty sad day when the correct terminology for a sexual assault against a 14 year old girl comes up for discussion.

As for the Russian ‘Reset,’ that was in 2009 and it was appropriate at the time. It was before the annexation of Crimea, the overthrow of the pro-Russian president in Ukraine, and the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Posted by: phx8 at November 27, 2017 3:55 PM
Comment #421978

Didn’t Pocahontas save Louise and Clark from being spit roasted by her father? Isn’t Warren proud of being called that?

Also, you should quit embarrassing yourself with this birther claim. It was started by yo’ mama, Hillbilly. Rewriting history isn’t your strong suit, phx8. Stick to things people might believe.

I loved the reset button! Hillbilly must have been won over by it when she saw the hungry monkey use it.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 27, 2017 5:09 PM
Comment #421981

Phx8,

Whining about Trump calling Warren ‘Pocahontas’ isn’t going to win you any elections. Nobody but the perpetually offended few cares about that nonsense. Especially when those whining are calling their President an ‘orange turd’ and denigrating the first lady.

‘Birtherism’ was a campaign tool created to cast enough doubt and gain an advantage. It was only effective because of Obama’s name, his travels and associations, and his words. To dismiss it as racism is nothing but partisan laziness and misses the entire point behind its creation.

Re Moore: Ms Corfman is accusing him of touching her. She says she agreed to meet with him and sneaked out of her house to do so. She says she agreed to go to his house. She says that when she got uncomfortable, she told Moore and he took her home. She says she “was a 14-year-old child trying to play in an adult’s world.” There was nothing non-consensual and there was no violence.
Moore denies all of it.
I know you want that senate seat, but you guys over played your hand by trying to label it as sexual assault. Especially in a he said/she said situation that happened 40 years ago and was never reported.

“As for the Russian ‘Reset,’ that was in 2009 and it was appropriate at the time.”

Of course it was, Obama was President in 09 and we all know that everything Obama did was appropriate. LOL>
Which brings us back to your unquestioning support for left-wing politicians.
Calling a white man a fat orange turd, a nazi or a Russian traitor is ok. Poking fun of a far left wing politician using the weakest of evidence to claim minority status, is racist.
Right wing politician accused of inappropriate touching 40 years ago and he’s a “pedophile” and “sexual assault.” Guilty until proven innocent. End of story. Left wing politician accused of actual sexual assault by numerous women, the women are lying wh*res, make the guy President.
Right wing politician not criticizing Putin is absolute proof of ‘collusion’ with the Russians. Left wing politician telling the Russians that he will have more flexibility after the election is no big deal.

Face it Phx8, this is ALL about winning at any cost. Left wing policy has been rejected all across the nation, but rather than address that, you would rather use All this hypocrisy, decisiveness and pettiness to make people hate each other more than they hate the policy you support.

Posted by: kctim at November 27, 2017 5:47 PM
Comment #421985

It was a pretty lame joke.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 27, 2017 7:27 PM
Comment #421987

And for the icing on the cake, Trump delivered the racist Pocahontas insult in front of a painting of Andrew Jackson, in the presence of Native American veterans and elders.

WW,
“Didn’t Pocahontas save Louise and Clark from being spit roasted by her father?”

No. That was Sacajawea.

“Also, you should quit embarrassing yourself with this birther claim. It was started by yo’ mama, Hillbilly.”

No. She never said any such thing. Ever.

kctim,
“… this is ALL about winning at any cost.”

How do you figure? Moore will probably win in Alabama. He was banned from the local mall, and the local police were warned to watch out for Moore around the high school cheerleaders. In his autobiography Moore said he first noticed his wife when she was 15.

Ick.

Conservatives may send this guy to the Senate.

“Left wing policy has been rejected all across the nation…”

Really? HRC won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. The GOP won only 49% of the votes for the House, and 42% of votes for the Senate. Currently Trump has approval ratings in the 30’s, the lowest for any president at this point in their term. The GOP repeal and replace plan for health care polled at 17% before it was pulled. Polling for the versions of the tax cut bills is similarly dismal.

The divisiveness comes from white identity politics. It has taken over the conservative movement and the GOP, and now it is mired in conspiracy theories, misogyny, racism, bigotry, and xenophobia. It is all about hatred, insults, and name-calling. Trump is just the logical result of the Southern Strategy, Limbaugh, Hannity, Alex Jones, and others.

Posted by: phx8 at November 27, 2017 11:42 PM
Comment #422005

warren

“In 2008, Americans rejected conservatism in vast numbers and Republicans refused to accept it. THAT is why politics are so devise today.”

And 2 years later they realized what a big mistake they had made and began changing that by voting democrats out of office in record numbers. That trend has continued now for almost 8 years.

Posted by: dbs at November 28, 2017 5:32 AM
Comment #422010
Really? HRC won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. The GOP won only 49% of the votes for the House, and 42% of votes for the Senate.

This is the important fact that dbs & kctim conveniently forget. Americans rejected conservatism in droves in 2008. If Republicans had accepted the results of the election and offered Obama/Pelosi/Reid the modicum of good faith compromise common in the late 20th century, most of today’s problems would not exist. Instead, the conservative movement put party above country. In an act of desperation got in bed with the worst elements of society to wage total war against Obama era Democrats.

To this day, American voters remain solidly cwnter-left in their political outlooks. It is only bease of a few quirks of history and Russian foreign policy that they happen to control the levers of power today.

And 2 years later they realized what a big mistake they had made and began changing that by voting democrats out of office in record numbers. That trend has continued now for almost 8 years.
In both 2012 & 2016, Democrats gained seats in Congress, so the “trend” hasn’t continued until today. Let me posit that Democrats were punished for insufficient governmental activism in countering the great recession.

When Republicans lose Congress next year, it will be the final death knell for conservatism as we know it.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 28, 2017 7:37 AM
Comment #422013

Phx8,

Your double standards are how I “figure” that this is all about winning. You have dismissed much worse claims against Bill Clinton the democrat, but are now accepting 40 year old accusations as gospel simply because Moore is a conservative.

I don’t care how or when Moore first noticed or met his wife.

“Really? HRC won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.”

I said ‘all across the country.’ California and New York are hardly representative of that.
Fact is the right won over a thousand seats ‘all across the country’ during the Obama years. That is a rejection of your policy by the voters you need most at this point in time.

“The divisiveness comes from white identity politics.”

Then how about some actual examples?
Not the rare idiot racists who the media now pretends are relevant, even though their message is the same as its been for decades, but from people who actually matter and who are promoting white over everybody else.
IF it has truly “taken over the conservative movement and the GOP” as you say, then you should have no problem doing so without the typical weak a$$ arguments about ‘what was really meant.”

“and now it is mired in conspiracy theories, misogyny, racism, bigotry, and xenophobia.”

Conspiracy has been around forever. Alex Jones was around WAY before the left made him a household name.
Not supporting special treatment for one group over another, being against open borders, or believing in American exceptionalism, does not make one guilty of “misogyny, racism, bigotry, and xenophobia.”

“Trump is just the logical result of the Southern Strategy, Limbaugh, Hannity, Alex Jones, and others.”

Pure partisan blindness and intellectual laziness.
Trump is the result of skyrocketing insurance created by the ACA, leftist social dictates and identity politics, the attacks on religious freedoms, and your assaults on the 2nd Amendment.
Without any of those being true, you would be excusing and slobbering all over a President Clinton right now.

Posted by: kctim at November 28, 2017 10:11 AM
Comment #422015

Warren,

By that ridiculous logic, the liberal party will lose the coming elections:
-They have not accepted the results of the election and haven’t even attempted to offer any compromise.
-Their leaders have attacked our election process, their President, and everybody who voted for him.
-Their minions have been violent.
-They have put party WAY before country.

Stop being so silly. The pendulum will swing back just as it always does.

“Let me posit that Democrats were punished for insufficient governmental activism in countering the great recession.”

I really really hope you guys believe this and keep pushing this far-left activism at full speed. Nothing brings the right out to vote like attacks on their individual rights and freedoms.

“When Republicans lose Congress next year, it will be the final death knell for conservatism as we know it.”

Is that you Stephen Daughtery? LOL

Posted by: kctim at November 28, 2017 10:28 AM
Comment #422018
phx8 and j2t2 are doing the same thing. They make something up and repeat it over and over.

Weary you can’t make this stuff up. This nonsensical accusation is your defense mechanism kicking in. You cannot dispute the individual claims made so you resort to vague accusations such as this.

Fact is the right won over a thousand seats ‘all across the country’ during the Obama years. That is a rejection of your policy by the voters you need most at this point in time.

Thank you kctim for acknowledging the effects of gerrymandering. Of course not all of these seats were due to gerrymandering but many were.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 28, 2017 10:56 AM
Comment #422019
By that ridiculous logic, the liberal party will lose the coming elections

It doesn’t work that way because the 2008 & 2016 elections have significant distinctions:

-A foreign adversary influenced the 2016 election but not the 2008 election
-Democratic candidates won more votes than Republican candidates in both Presidential & Senatorial elections

You are right, the pendulum will always keep swinging. However, the nature of the conservative movement will be changed irrevocably. That’s what I mean by the death knell of conservatism as we know it.

I really really hope you guys believe this and keep pushing this far-left activism at full speed. Nothing brings the right out to vote like attacks on their individual rights and freedoms.

Apart from LGBT rights, the Democratic party has not changed positions on anything concerning your perverted interpretation of “individual rights” since at least 2004. Yet throughout that tome, they’ve been rewarded (2006, 2008, 2012) and punished (2004, 2010, 2014). I do not think there is anything wrong with the current platform.

You are right that nothing turns people out like fear. This is why nearly every midterm election ends badly for the party in power. With the way the dominoes are lined up, Democrats stand to gain mightily in 2018 & 2020.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 28, 2017 11:25 AM
Comment #422022

Warren,

Yes, despite the numerous conspiracy theories involving the Clinton’s being around since the 90s, the Russians waited until 2016 to use them. And despite the fact that everybody in the world knew Clinton wrongly used a private server to handle classified information and then lied about it, the Russians used that information as their smoking gun. And to top it all off, the Russians own all of the left’s standard scapegoats like Rush, Hannity, Brietbart and Alex Jones (whom have been on the Clinton’s case forever) and waited until 2016 to use them to pass on boring conspiracy theories and common knowledge in order to influence the election.
I’m not sure it can get any more sillier than that.

Hillary was a terrible candidate, voters were pi$$ed at what had been going on, and they showed up to vote against what she offered. It wasn’t the Russians, it wasn’t Wikileaks, it was Hillary.

“the nature of the conservative movement will be changed irrevocably. That’s what I mean by the death knell of conservatism as we know it.”

You are only slightly off on this one.
The country as a whole, in their quest for comfort and convenience has been moving further and further left for a long time now and it is the Republican party who has been moving left along with that shift. Today’s Republican is yesterdays democrat.
The conservative movement, who have refused to move left and who still hold the same values and agenda they have for decades, are now called extreme. Just how much their numbers change remains to be seen.

“Apart from LGBT rights, the Democratic party has not changed positions on anything concerning your perverted interpretation of “individual rights” since at least 2004.”

Despite your inability to back up either of those claims, you miss the point entirely. You see Warren, it doesn’t matter if YOU think gay marriage, open borders, hating whitey, or grown men showering with little girls are supposed ‘rights.’ Or that it’s ok to infringe on actual religious and 2nd Amendment rights. What matters is that the democratic party has adopted those positions and tried to force them onto the country as a whole. Instead of giving the people time to agree with you, you pushed to hard, too fast and you paid the price.

“I do not think there is anything wrong with the current platform.”

The FACT that Trump is President says otherwise.

Posted by: kctim at November 28, 2017 1:00 PM
Comment #422029

Business as usual for our Liberal Pals. When they lose they cite statistics and polls for the next election which they assure us they will win.

For as long as I can remember, national politics has always centered on two issues…”guns” and “butter”.

We are seeing remarkable progress in our rising GDP and wages. President Trump has removed the heavy heel of government regulation from the neck of much of our economy. Thank you Sir.

President Trump can take credit for our NATO allies living up to the military spending they promised which makes the world safer. President Trump is determined not to kick the North Korea nuclear issue down the road as the three prior presidents have done. Clinton, Bush and Obama placed our nation and our people in ever greater danger through their appeasement of our sworn enemies.

President Trump has refused to join the world in their MMGW frenzy to spend “our” money to fund their meaningless projects.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 28, 2017 5:23 PM
Comment #422031

No forcing is necessary. The country already agrees with the Democratic platform and will vote accordingly.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 28, 2017 5:35 PM
Comment #422052

But they haven’t been voting “accordingly,” Warren. Something is making them reject democrat candidates.

Do you honestly believe that calling them stupid, blaming conspiracy, and alienating them until you eventually outnumber them, is a better answer than listening to them, working with them, and earning their vote?

Posted by: kctim at November 29, 2017 11:43 AM
Comment #422056

Hillary Clinton won more votes than Donald Trump. Democrats running for Senate won more votes than Republicans. Current GOP control over government is purely a matter of happenstance.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 29, 2017 12:54 PM
Comment #422059

And Hillary still isn’t President, and democrats still aren’t in control of the House or Senate.
You don’t need more votes, Warren. Hillary could have gotten ten million more votes than Trump in California and she still would not be President.
You need votes that matter.

At least you admit that you are fine with rule by simple majority and the division that comes with it.

Posted by: kctim at November 29, 2017 1:54 PM
Comment #422060

Democrats win more votes. It is wonderful Warren.

Republicans win more elections.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 29, 2017 2:52 PM
Post a comment