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Trump On A Roll To Be A Great President

Seven months in and President Trump is proving he has the right stuff to be a great President. As we will see in Penn. This PM, Trump’s base is solidly behind him and like what he is doing and what he has accomplished so far.

Like, why hasn't the little rocket man thrown up some junk lately? Reason, Trump is on his case like stink on a June Bug.

He is likely to pull out of the Iran deal giving Congress the chance to levy strong sanctions against Iran.

His admin has good marks in handling domestic disasters.

He is restoring respect for firemen, law enforcement officers and the flag in general.

He is standing up for religion, morality, and law and order which greatly strengthens his base.

Pulled the US out of Cuba.

Gang members are being deported/jailed.

His admin has tried to repeal and replace Obamacare. It may take him a while, perhaps into his second term, but he will get it done, IMO.

Some $5T has been realized in a growing stock market. 4.6 percent unemployment, lowest in a decade.

The Saudi's are pleading for reduced oil production but we can expect the price of oil to go further down this winter.

He is definitely having a real hard time with the dem/gop/establishment and the communist news network/msm and so on. . . They are working to block the wall, block immigration control, block repeal and replace and are likely to block tax reform where it is likely to help middle class folks. But, over time, Trump will get his agenda thru.

Steve Bannon is heading up an effort to take out GOP'ers who oppose Trumps agenda. I believe he will have much success over the next three election cycles. He just needs to inform the base who to vote out as he did recently in Alabama. Corker (TN) is throwing in the towel.

He has put together a strong administration and slowly, Obama era holdovers are being removed and replaced by Trumpers. Trump is gathering steam and, IMHO, is on a path to be a really great President.

Hannity will talk with the President for an hour this evening beginning at 9. Should be an enlightening interview.

Posted by Roy Ellis at October 11, 2017 5:49 PM
Comments
Comment #420584

I agree! Trump put the NFL in it’s proper place. He put them on a stage entertaining those that pay them. He didn’t let them disrespect what gave them their job.

I’d like to see Trump go against someone in the media or at CNN to an IQ test. I wonder if swear words really do indicate a low intellect.

Trump’s doing a fine job. It’s a big one. Our past presidents after Kennedy demonstrated they weren’t up to the task. All of them pandered and lied. All the establishment politicians are known for pandering and lying as a matter of fact.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 7:05 PM
Comment #420585

I find this the most interesting presidency of my lifetime and it is not even past its first year.

Of course, President Reagan was terrific despite the resistance from his own party in his attempt to correct the abuses he identified in his campaigns. But, he had the benefit of some political experience unlike President Trump, and he had a majority of the general votes.

President Trump began his term on an electoral college win and no political experience. That’s a tough place to begin a new career.

I am amazed nearly every day at the way President Trump handles both the mundane and the sensational. He is always in control.

He has not faltered defending those issues which got him elected. He is certainly not a fence-sitter on the hard issues.

Like Roy wrote above, I too expect President Trump to become one of our greatest leaders. This man is succeeding despite the great forces aligned against him.

God bless President Trump, and God bless America.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 11, 2017 7:26 PM
Comment #420587

Have you noticed that most of the criticism of him in the first few months was of how he hasn’t got anything done? Then Gorsuch was nominated and confirmed. It was commonly referred to as the only thing Trump has done.

His twitter account has put and kept things in the news. That’s a first, and it’s productive in raising and enforcing issues. He’s not the bumbling fool many insist he is. It’s just he doesn’t stand up and give platitudes to a hostile microphone.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 7:47 PM
Comment #420590

In the Vanity Fair interview that just came out, Steve Bannon gave Trump a 30% chance of finishing his first term. In the last AP poll, Trump received a 32% approval rating. That is low. That is really, really low. Obama never received lower than 41% approval in eight years in office. Trump’s disapproval rating was even more abysmal, 67%. That is extraordinary.

Trump’s Secretary of State called him a moron. Wait, that is not accurate. Tillerson called him a “f****** moron” in front of a dozen staffers. A big supporter of Trump during the campaign, a candidate for VP, and a candidate for Secretary of State, Senator Corker- by the way, the Chair of the Foreign Relations Committee- made it clear Trump was unfit to serve. On August 17th he said the President “has not demonstrated he understands the character of this nation.” He also said “The President has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful.” On October 4th Corker said “I think Secretary Tillerson, Secretary Mattis, and Chief of Staff Kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos, and I support them very much.”

This is a flat-out disastrous presidency. Thank goodness Obama left the economy is such good shape. It’s pretty funny seeing you guys try to explain why the economy was so bad under Obama, but the exact same one is good under Trump.

Oh, but the 83 consecutive months of job growth ended last month.

At this point in the Obama presidency there were 5 resignations. For Trump, there have already been 19.

Did anyone mention the president is under investigation for Obstruction of Justice and his campaign’s cooperation and coordination with Russia? Anyone think that is treason?

How many of you guys received Russian propaganda from FB, Breitbart, InfoWars, Sputnik, and RT?

Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2017 8:10 PM
Comment #420591
His admin has good marks in handling domestic disasters. He is restoring respect for firemen, law enforcement officers and the flag in general. He is standing up for religion, morality, and law and order which greatly strengthens his base.

Thanks for the laughs “RE”. I’m glad you’ve recovered. We’ve missed this kind of insanity while you were gone.

“He” is the biggest domestic disaster.

“He” has you fooled. He has no respect for anyone unrelated to him, much less any flag or fireman.

“He” is a degenerate rapist dotard who doesn’t believe that any laws apply to him or his family. Stay tuned for his trial for :

18 uscode 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions
15 uscode 78dd-1, foreign corrupt practices act
52 uscode 30121 and 36 usc 510 foreign contributions
18 uscode 371 conspiracy to commit offense or defraud
18 uscode 1030 fraud and related activity with computers
18 uscode 1343 fraud by wire, radio, or television
18 uscode 2 aiding and abetting, in connection to other offenses
18 uscode 2031 Treason, aid and comfort to enemies
18 uscode 1512 Obstruction of Justice, multiple instances,
18 uscode 1956 Money laundering
18 uscode 953 Logan act, unauthorized persons negotiating with foreign governments.
18 uscode 793 Espionage, recommending russians to attack US citizens
18 uscode 201 Bribery, via court settlements and elsewhere
18 uscode 1621 and 1746 Perjury and false statements in writing

A couple of those come with a death sentence:

Title VI: Death Penalty - Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 - Amends the Federal criminal code to provide for the imposition of the death penalty …for treason or espionage
from https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355

He was guilty of espionage as soon as he said “Russia, if you’re listening….”

His treason and yours are both obvious because of your love of Russia over your own country.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 11, 2017 8:27 PM
Comment #420595

Oh realy! Loving every day of it. Folks shud watch Hannity/Trump interview tonite at 9 on FOX.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 11, 2017 8:50 PM
Comment #420596

phx8, polling your grandchildren doesn’t count.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 9:08 PM
Comment #420597

Name one thing Trump has done or said that you agree with.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 9:12 PM
Comment #420598

Since apologizing is in fashion these days, I apologize for the long silence we’ll experience waiting for that critique.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 9:17 PM
Comment #420599

If you ask me, I’d doubt the employment and GDP numbers. When asked what’s the difference between then and now, I agree there’s no difference. I didn’t believe them then and I don’t believe them now.

I’m not saying Trump is failing and throwing up my hands in surrender. I’m just saying it’s been a political propaganda tool for decades, why should it change now?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 9:25 PM
Comment #420602

Trump will get his agenda through. It will take a while to prune the Tree of Liberty.

The American people have abandoned the progressive agenda by not electing the queen of the Democratic Party. The roots of the Progressive religion grow deep and thick. Without the support of the nurturing leaves and branches of the Tree of Liberty, those roots will wither and die.

We saw past supporters of the kneeling football player abandon their “stance” and admit Trump is correct. They are proving Pence was right to walk out. None of this would have happened if Hillbilly was president.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 9:42 PM
Comment #420603

I saw some of the Hannity interview. The two sat around agreeing with each other. It wasn’t really an interview. More like a sycophantic promotion. Get used to it. According to staff, Trump has “lost a step” and will no longer be exposed to adversarial interviews.

WW,
From the very beginning, Trump should have pushed bringing American jobs back from abroad, changing the laws allowing corporations to hide from taxes that incorporate abroad to avoid taxes, and punishing companies that failed to do so. Instead of tax cuts, he should have punished all those corporations that kept huge stashes of cash abroad, and for those who refused to play ball, he should have funded start-ups to compete and replace them. For those who profited in America by importing goods manufactured by little better than slave labor, he should have gone after them. Hard.

Instead, Trump parrots the establishment GOP line. He calls for tax cuts for corporations. They already pay an effective rate that is very competitive. He calls for tax cuts for the richest of the rich, and plans to pay for it in the budget with a well over $1 trillion cut to Medicare/Medicaid, something Trump promised not to do.

He touts coal. That is stupid. He gives those people in WV & PA false hope. There are far more jobs to be generated with wind & solar power, and the manufacture of electric & self-driving cars.

The opportunity was always there for him, but Trump never really had any core convictions, and that is why he let everything drift into an extremely unpopular establishment GOP agenda.

Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2017 9:53 PM
Comment #420604

Trump has pushed bringing American jobs back home. Are you deaf? He’s also promoted bringing home the money invested abroad! Where were you when he said this, or is it you don’t listen to Trump?

Why do you think punishing someone is an effective way to get what you want? Can’t you persuade someone to fund your endeavors? Do you need the force of government to get your way?

Show me the commercial airliner powered by solar panels. Where is your support for a wall built with solar panels? Why the hypocritical, judgemental, pessimism?

Why can’t you name one thing Trump has done that you agree with?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2017 10:01 PM
Comment #420605

Look, Trump brought no experience in government or the military to the table. His claim to fame was that he was a builder and a deal maker. Fine. It takes more than just talk or promotion or salesmanship. It requires putting together a deal, and that means knowing enough about a subject to be able to sell it in the first place, and then bringing together enough from both sides to push it through.

Both Obama and Trump focused on health care out of the gate. IMO both should have focused on infrastructure.

“Why can’t you name one thing Trump has done that you agree with?”

Because he hasn’t really done anything. The culture wars stuff about the flag and the anthem and football protests is a waste of time, a distraction. A lot of the oxygen got sucked out of the room when Trump chose to oppose the Russia investigation, instead of doing everything possible to speed it along. If he were innocent, he should have demanded an Independent Select Committee to investigate. They would have been done by this past summer. Now it drags on.

If he wanted to do something, he should have taken the middle ground. The sides in the Legislature are too close to accomplish anything lasting without cooperation from the other side. Trump had an ideal opportunity, and he owed nothing to the establishment GOP. He chose to spend all his time attacking anything and everything with Obama’s name on it. He played to the base, ignoring the fact that Obama finished his presidency with an approval rating of over 50%.

It doesn’t matter because now it is done. The Trump administration is in terrible shape, and when you get right down to it, the fault lies with Trump.

Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2017 10:18 PM
Comment #420606
never really had any core convictions, and that is why he let everything drift into an extremely unpopular establishment GOP agenda. Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2017 9:53 PM

I’m still suspicious that he has Berlusconi in mind, and plans to form the Rpblcn party into his Forza, with Bannon helping to get rid of the incumbents that they don’t like. Susan Collins always has a target on her back. Remember, Bannon is a Mercer tool. Who knows what they have in mind.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-rebekah-mercer-227799

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-rise-of-gop-mega-donor-rebekah-mercer/2016/09/13/85ae3c32-79bf-11e6-beac-57a4a412e93a_story.html?utm_term=.38fedb4541b0

Posted by: ohrealy at October 11, 2017 10:22 PM
Comment #420607

As for infrastructure:
Trump could have proposed a national high speed maglev rail system to ship goods between cities. For example, trucks could pull onto a train and be transported between major ports like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and LA at 300 mph. Instead, Trump is pushing a return to a 1950’s vision for trucking and coal.

He seems to completely lack the ability to look forward. He only looks back, whether it is attacking what Obama accomplished or MAGA.

And my biggest fear is that he will decide to wag the dog and rally everyone around the flag by starting a war.

Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2017 10:31 PM
Comment #420610

Why do you blame everything congress isn’t doing on Trump?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 12, 2017 2:59 AM
Comment #420616

Because Trump fails to lead.

Posted by: phx8 at October 12, 2017 9:57 AM
Comment #420617

You can’t herd cats, which is why the federal government shouldn’t be superior to the states.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 12, 2017 10:10 AM
Comment #420618

Looks like someone has a different opinion of what leadership is.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/10/the_progressive_machine_takes_a_big_hit_in_cook_country_illinois.html

After half a century and more of dominance, the progressive machine that cooks up studies and then uses them as the pretext for more control over our lives is facing a head-on challenge. I think that the election of President Trump has empowered a lot of people that normally are ignored to express themselves and take action to guard their interests. In Cook County, we see the application of Trumpian populism in the heart of Blue Beast, even thoough the POTUS has said nothing at all about the soda taxes.

Forcing others to do your bidding is not leadership, phx8. Your version of leadership is why the left is losing elections.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 12, 2017 10:43 AM
Comment #420620

Right WW. The progressive machine is going down.

Had a GOP candidate other than Trump won the election the MSM and left establishment would have been pretty much complacent. There would have been some fringe change and business as usual thereafter.

But Trump is a progressive killer and the left knows whats in store for them over the next 8 years. He will leave a progressive wasteland and should a decent GOP’er follow him that would be the final blow.

The Pak’s are getting Trump’s message. The US woman and her family was freed thru Pak military operation and are safe.

Geeeze, I’d kinda like the little rocket man to send one up … and so on.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 12, 2017 11:52 AM
Comment #420622

Great piece Roy worthy of the Onion. I laughed my a** off reading this brilliant piece of comedic thought.

Weary, The sad thing is the way you guys have lowered your standards to such a degree. I mean asking “Why do you blame everything congress isn’t doing on Trump?” after 8 years of you and the right wing blaming Obama for Congress doing nothing.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 12, 2017 3:16 PM
Comment #420623

Congress voted to repeal Ocare 48 times. It was Democratics who played the obstructionist. To bad they enjoyed the double standard and weren’t crucified for it like Republicans were.

Your cult will suffer another round of devastating losses in the next election. It will be another surprise, tear jerking, moment for rose colored, blinder wearing, Democratics.

I’m looking forward to it.

I was confident Obama wouldn’t do permanent damage because Democratics were consumed with their narrow minded health care when they were in control the first 2 years. Republicans stepped in after those wasted 2 years and kept power away from Obama. So I didn’t feel the gut wrenching sobs the left will feel when Republicans increase their majority in the house and get 60+ seats in the senate. The incessant whining from the left will be falling on deaf ears in Trump’s second term.

You folks on the left don’t realize the opportunity you squandered in those first 2 years it controlled all branches of the federal government. Had they made any kind of effort to successfully return our economy to a sustainable and productive state in the first 2 years they could have had another 100 years to figure out their precious health care takeover. But they blew it. Good for us. Bad for you.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 12, 2017 4:00 PM
Comment #420624

“From the very beginning, Trump should have pushed bringing American jobs back from abroad, changing the laws allowing corporations to hide from taxes that incorporate abroad to avoid taxes, and punishing companies that failed to do so.”

Spoken like a true Liberal/Progressive/Socialist phx8.

These Left-wingers always prefer the government stick to the carrot. They prefer laws that punish rather than ideas that promote cooperation and success. Obamacare is full of penalties for those who want to make their own health care decisions.

Governments that rule their people by the sword rather than reason and freedom always fail. The Democrat Party is failing ever faster as it slides into obscurity bereft of ideas to promote freedom and liberty.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 12, 2017 4:53 PM
Comment #420626
As for infrastructure: Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2017 10:31 PM

I would suggest a national program to put most wiring underground, where possible, to reduce the cost and time of recovery from disasters. I wonder if earthships would withstand some of these fires.

Watch out for Pence to resign or be removed in some way. Then I think Cruz would be appointed as VP, with agreement to pardon the whole “first” family, then the POS resigns or is impeached, and Rebekah Mercer gets what she wants. Watch how Cruz reacts or doesn’t react to what’s going on now.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 12, 2017 5:33 PM
Comment #420630

Does the area in your peripheral vision shimmer when you type? It’s probably the fog on your rose colored glasses rising from your heated state.

Where did you get this information, ohrealy? Holy cow! It’s a new fantasy every day!


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 12, 2017 7:43 PM
Comment #420636
Your cult will suffer another round of devastating losses in the next election. It will be another surprise, tear jerking, moment for rose colored, blinder wearing, Democratics.

I don’t doubt it Weary, especially if the SCOTUS allows the current extreme gerrymandering to remain.

The only surprise is how the repubs haven’t taken many more seats in Congress already. You see Weary you guys really don’t have the majority you think you do. You have enjoyed the concerted effort of ALEX backed legislatures as they have passed voter suppression laws and gerrymandering to embarrassing levels for a “free” country.

Governments that rule their people by the sword rather than reason and freedom always fail.

I would add that between civil forfeitures laws, that the Trump administration recently made stricter, and the support of police brutality in the name of “law and order” qualifies for the “rule by the sword” award much more than any paying their fair share corporate tax law you speak of Royal. But then you support these rule by the sword laws Royal, why is that?

Posted by: j2t2 at October 13, 2017 11:04 AM
Comment #420639

Something to realize that our religious liberty, moral compass, and national pride would be protected, reinforced by a so-called ex-playboy from NYC. Life really is stranger than fiction.

Today, he began working on stopping Iran from developing the bomb.

Today, he began working on a healthcare program.

Wonder what tomorrow will bring???

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 13, 2017 2:24 PM
Comment #420643

Does anybody here believe the Roy Ellis who just posted is the same one who posted for years?

He used to end posts with a line about corporatism. Now he cheers for big cuts in the corporate tax rate.

No American, not even the most rabid Trump supporter, would believe that Trump stands for religious liberty, or sets the example of a man with a moral compass. He has fathered five children on three different women. He does not attend church. He knows nothing about the Bible, or any other religion for that matter. His grasp of the Constitution is shaky, at best. As for morality, he lies all the time about big things and small things, calls people hurtful names, has already settled one fraud case for $25 million, brags about sexually assaulting women- you can just grab them by the p*ssy, as he says- denies sexual assault by claiming the women accusing him were not attractive enough to assult- and has declared bankruptcy a half dozen times.

Posted by: phx8 at October 13, 2017 6:11 PM
Comment #420644

Good points, phx8. Ohrealy has made the same observation. Whatever happened to the corporacy(?), Roy? Once a real corporatist became president, Roy appears to have folded like a cheap lawn chair.

Posted by: Rich at October 13, 2017 10:19 PM
Comment #420663

It occurs to me that Trump has no real agenda. All he has is a deep hatred of that terrible black man, Obama. As a result, the only thing he does is repeal Obama achievements by executive order.

The disconnect between Trump and the Republican establishment is that, while they hate Obama too for presidenting while black, they have an agenda that is very simple. They exist to pay off their donors with tax cuts and favorable regulations.

There are two fundamental problems: 1) no one outside the GOP establishment in Washington can come up with a reason why corporations & the rich should receive big tax cuts, and 2) the only way those big tax cuts can happen without making the deficit and debt even worse is for the GOP to take money away from Medicaid & Medicare, along with a 30% increase on taxes for the middle class.

That’s a heavy lift.

But Trump does not care. He did great harm to his ability to negotiate by decertifying the Iran deal. No one will trust him to negotiate in good faith- not the Democrats, not anyone involved in trade deals, not North Korea, no one. The US will abide by the Iran deal, but in the meantime, no one will work with Trump. Like I said, Trump does not care. It is all about competing with that terrible black man.

The attack on Obamacare, in the form of an executive order taking away CSR payments, falls into the same category. It makes no sense other than another swipe at Obama. Reneging on CSR’s will cause a 20% increase in premiums. For some bizarre reason, Trump and his ilk believe making health care more expensive for Americans will force the Democrats to negotiate with him to make health care even worse. It makes no sense, but that’s because Trump has no real positive agenda, other than expressing his hatred for Obama.

It started with Birtherism. Trump is, at heart, a racist, a bigot, a misogynist, and a xenophobe. And that is why he hates Obama so much.

Posted by: phx8 at October 14, 2017 11:05 PM
Comment #420665

The pot is calling the kettle black.

phx8, your comment is rooted in racial hatred. It starts and ends with racism. It is racist to it’s core. The entire comment is racist.

It’s also factually dishonest to say Trump started the Birthism fiasco. Obama started it himself. Hillbilly perpetuated it in her 2008 campaign. Obama perpetuated it by ignoring the charge Hillbilly levied against him. Trump did what Trump does. He solved the problem. He put it to bed. You should be praising him for putting an end to the birther problem, not starting it.

You’re criticizing Trump for modifying Ocare by saying his motive is racist. That’s a racist comment in and of itself. You say Trump is callous. Why? Because he hates a black man? That’s a complete misrepresentation and doesn’t deserve any consideration. It deserves condemnation for what it is, racist.

The disconnect between Trump and the establishment is one of protecting the people from the ever intrusive government’s overreach. Only a racist would reduce the motive to the perceived hatred of a black man.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 9:33 AM
Comment #420666


“Only a racist would reduce the motive to the perceived hatred of a black man.”

So you’re cool with the statements by Trump over Puerto Rico?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at October 15, 2017 10:36 AM
Comment #420669

What comment? The one where Trump says the Puerto Rican politicians always want more and more money? Sounds like typical liberal progressive behavior being challenged by our great President.

Once again the liberal progressive media has used race to initiate their manufactured faux outrage. Instead of focusing on the politics of Puerto Rico as a basis of their problems, liberal progressives cover the problem with a layer of racism to distract from the failings.

Old, tired, arguments are not going to work any longer, Rocky Marks! . The foundation of your disagreement is flawed and fake. Fake news. It’s fake, fake, fake!

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 2:01 PM
Comment #420670

WW,
Stop being so childish. If I note examples of Trump’s racism, bigotry, misogyny, and so on, responding by crying hot salty tears and shouting ‘No! You’re the racist!’ and running up to your room and slamming the door, and then sobbing into your pillow ‘it’s all fake- sniffle- fake- And what about Hillary!- sob-

It just doesn’t work.

Here is what you can not say. You cannot defend Trump by saying he has a diverse cabinet, because he does not- it is one of the least diverse in modern American history. When NFL players kneel to protest racial injustice, Trump pretends they are protesting the flag or the anthem or anything, anything at all, except racial injustice.

The problem is simple. Trump and his supporters mistake the sign for the signification. Trump and his supporters confuse cultural and ethnic identity with the American ideals of justice, equal opportunity, and We the People. The mistake is believing ‘we’ consists only of white, Christian, English speaking males.

Posted by: phx8 at October 15, 2017 2:16 PM
Comment #420671

Rich, Corpocracy = establishment and establishment = Corpocracy.

I commented earlier about how Trump, an ex-playboy, has come to save us.

When the wall goes up maybe you will believe Trump is the real deal The wall is anathema to Corpocratist.

The wall is how we will 100% know Trump is the real deal.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 15, 2017 3:56 PM
Comment #420672

According to who, phx8? Is Trump’s cabinet not diverse according to the left? Is it not diverse because he doesn’t have a quota of blacks, whites, women, Jews, Muslims in his cabinet the left approves of?

You’re making my point for me. You claim I am being childish. How about this, phx8. I couldn’t care less if he has a woman in his cabinet. You will still criticize her. (Devos) I couldn’t care less if he has a black in his cabinet. You will still criticize him. (Carson) The only qualification I would use would be if they are capable of doing the job.

See how the double standard is so glaringly obvious? The only reason Obama got Sotomayor on the court is because of racism. “She is the “First Hispanic” on the Supreme Court!”, the left screams. You couldn’t care less about her qualifications. She has a label you approve of, she’s not a white male. Congratulations.

You go ahead and call me childish, phx8. Coming from you it’s a compliment.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 4:30 PM
Comment #420673


“The one where Trump says the Puerto Rican politicians always want more and more money? Sounds like typical liberal progressive behavior being challenged by our great President.”

Screw the politicians Willie. Trump is making rumbling sounds like he wants to help Puerto Rico on the cheap, unlike Houston, and Florida.
The people of Puerto Rican are US citizens and are now drinking substandard water, and eating plants because Trump couldn’t point out Puerto Rico on a map. If you support this you are as hard hearted as conservatives have been accused of being for the last 50 years.

“The foundation of your disagreement is flawed and fake. Fake news. It’s fake, fake, fake!”

That’s freaking hysterical Willie, we didn’t have much of a problem with “fake” news until we got our “fake” President.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at October 15, 2017 4:42 PM
Comment #420674
The people of Puerto Rican are US citizens and are now drinking substandard water, and eating plants because Trump couldn’t point out Puerto Rico on a map.

This must be a lie, because I can’t believe you could be that ignorant. Don’t believe everything you think, Rocky Marks.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 4:57 PM
Comment #420675

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michaellevin/in-controversial-campaign_b_7811730.html

Fakefakefake

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 5:08 PM
Comment #420676


Willie, do you even bother to look at the dates? That huffpost article is from 2015.

You’ll never learn.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at October 15, 2017 5:14 PM
Comment #420677

So?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 6:14 PM
Comment #420678

It’s still fake.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 6:15 PM
Comment #420679

OMG, stop feeding the troll,
Kos:

What bothers me is less that the trolls “do the troll thing” than that there is so much energy expended in responding to the trolls. All this does is encourage the trolls to snap and bite again and again and again. They enjoy stirring up trouble and causing people to get enraged. While I understand the anger behind the responses, and agree with it, such energy would be far better spent engaging in a more positive fashion.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Comment #420682

“What bothers me is less that the trolls “do the troll thing” than that there is so much energy expended in responding to the trolls.”

Yeah, but to watch them go through all their gyrations trying to make a lame BS point is immensely entertaining.

I am beyond caring, I just come here to play once in a while.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at October 15, 2017 8:30 PM
Comment #420683

Translation: He couldn’t back up his argument. Remember what he said?

The people of Puerto Rican are US citizens and are now drinking substandard water, and eating plants because Trump couldn’t point out Puerto Rico on a map.

I called him out and he abandons the ground out of embarrassment. See ya later, Rocky Rocky Marks.


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 8:52 PM
Comment #420693
I called him out and he abandons the ground out of embarrassment.

Weary you didn’t call him out you sputtered the nonsensical, illogical idea that “This must be a lie, because I can’t believe you could be that ignorant. Don’t believe everything you think, Rocky Marks.” Yep you said it, it can’t be true because I can’t believe it! Yet you produced not one single fact after this simply outrageous bit of stupidity.

You offered nothing in the way of disproving his comment. You call anything fake if it doesn’t agree with your utopian view of the world now that Trump is president. Here lets hear how the guardian is fake Weary.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/11/puerto-rico-food-shortage-hurricane-maria

Posted by: j2t2 at October 15, 2017 11:12 PM
Comment #420694
The wall is anathema to Corpocratist.

Wow this ought to be good. Roy pray tell man tell us how the wall will make a difference one way or the other to corporate America.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 15, 2017 11:16 PM
Comment #420695

The wall is anathema to people who actually own the land along the border where they want to build the “wall”. Corporatist now equals any opposition to the anointed one, the real corporatist corpocracy. Is Corpocratist something different than the corporatists, or has there been another insult to RE’s brain.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 15, 2017 11:22 PM
Comment #420696

I get it now. I understand now that j2t2 has it backwards. He’s under the impression Rocky Rocky Marks can spew falsehoods and it’s up to the sane among us to disprove it.

That’s not how it works, j2t2. If he claims Trump can’t point to Puerto Rico on a map he should provide some kind of fact to back it up. I’m not the ignorant one in this conversation, j2t2. The closest think I could find to what Rocky Rocky Marks spouts is the parity article from Huffpo I linked to.

Perhaps Rocky Rocky Marks got his information from SNL and is confused.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 15, 2017 11:53 PM
Comment #420699

Oh my bad Weary I thought you took exception to the “The people of Puerto Rican are US citizens and are now drinking substandard water, and eating plants” part of the comment which we all know is true. Instead you take exception to the ” because Trump couldn’t point out Puerto Rico on a map.” part of the comment!

But hey while we are on this please tell me why your argument on race has anything to do with the ” because Trump couldn’t point out Puerto Rico on a map.” I mean you skip over the point of the comment that actually has to do with the subject. Why so sensitive? So PC.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 16, 2017 12:29 AM
Comment #420700

News flash, Roy. We aren’t going to build “the wall.” And it isn’t just because corporate America and the “establishment” are against it. We aren’t going to build it because it is an insanely expensive and stupid waste of money that could be used for legitimate infra structure development.

In the grand economic scheme, the medieval “wall” is a minor actor. It only serves as a distraction from real issues. While China is massively investing in infra structure, clean technology, computer/AI technology, educational systems, expanding its trade relationships, etc., we are building some medieval wall.

Posted by: Rich at October 16, 2017 12:37 AM
Comment #420705

The wall will work. It already has in California. It has forced migration east. As far as being a waste of money, it seems I remember my friends on the left singing the the praise of the federal unemployment and it would help the economy. So how is actually paying American workers to build this wall any different ? Only difference I see is we will actually be getting something of substance for the money, and not just handing it out.

Posted by: dbs at October 16, 2017 5:34 AM
Comment #420707

While Trump obsesses with building a wall, China is committing trillions on internal and external infrastructure (New Silk Road) to support and integrate its international trade and commerce. It currently spends more than the US and EU combined on infrastructure. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-15/china-spends-more-on-infrastructure-than-the-u-s-and-europe-combined

Posted by: Rich at October 16, 2017 9:14 AM
Comment #420708

George Will this morning:

-rump’s energy, unleavened by intellect and untethered to principle, serves only his sovereign instinct to pander to those who adore him as much as he does. Unshakably smitten, they are impervious to the Everest of evidence that he disdains them as a basket of gullibles… his self-indulgent floundering precludes fulfillment of the promises he flippantly made to assuage their sense of being disdained. He gives his gullibles not governance by tantrum, but tantrum as governance…his crusade to make America great again is increasingly dominated by people who explicitly repudiate America’s premises.
Posted by: ohrealy at October 16, 2017 9:20 AM
Comment #420713

That sounds like George Will likes hearing his own voice using big boy words. He’s coming off as pompous.

Remember when Trump said he isn’t going to broadcast his true intentions? The wall may be one of those instances. We may not know the true extent to which Trump is committing resources to border security. Notice I said border security? That involves much more than solar panels lined up in a row.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 16, 2017 9:49 AM
Comment #420715

So…ah….guys lets be clear on this wall thing. Are you suggesting you support building a wall on the southern border only because is an equivalent to the WPA of the ‘30’s? Are you sure Mexico is still going to pay for this wall if the benefits only go north?

IMHO their is nothing that says freedom and liberty like a wall around the country. That is what they do when they take away freedom and liberty they build a wall around those they want to keep in prison. Gulag. Prison. FEMA concentration camps. Army re-education camps. Yet not one conspiracy theory by the usual right wing nut cases on this issue, where is Alex Jones when we need him?

But hey as a public works project what a great idea. If we are also going to add solar panels to the wall why not just build walls in other places closer to where the power that would result from the wall would be used? I mean we could leave out so much more important infrastructure as we return to the nineteenth century.

Seems to me you guys have been guzzling the Trump kool aid on this issue. Is it hatred of the corpocracy or hatred of the brown skinned people that drives this bad idea? I mean the chances of Mexico paying for the wall without a war to force them into submission is slim to none. Not only that what happens when you get to New Orleans and the camp..er umm wall keeps the city safe from the next big Hurricane? How many black lives will be saved?

Posted by: j2t2 at October 16, 2017 11:36 AM
Comment #420719
IMHO their is nothing that says freedom and liberty like a wall around the country. Posted by: j2t2 at October 16, 2017 11:36 AM

That about sums that up.

pdx8, Thom Hartmann has apparently moved his show from DC to Portland. His show is on WCPT or SiriusXM Progress 127:

The America I Knew Has Almost Disappeared
What’s left of our democratic institutions are under siege. Like an alcoholic family that won’t discuss alcoholism (and proving Don Quixote’s warning to never mention rope in the home of a man who’s been hanged), far too many Americans are unwilling to acknowledge or even discuss the ongoing collapse of democracy in the United States President Jimmy Carter took it head on when he told me on my radio program that the Citizen’s United decision: “[V]iolates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system.

from http://hartmannreport.com/

His twiter feed:

https://twitter.com/Thom_Hartmann?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Posted by: ohrealy at October 16, 2017 12:15 PM
Comment #420721

Brown skinned people? Black lives? No, your not racist, are you? Good job with the blinders, j2t2. You can’t even recognize your racism. You see a weapon, not race. You’re a racist without realizing your entire disagreement with Trump is based exclusively on playing the race card. Congratulations.

One thing ohrealy must realize, because identifying the problem is the first step in problem solving, is this is not a democracy. It’s a republic that has been mislead by the officials we elect and the system they perpetuate. You would be most unhappy in a democracy, ohrealy. A simple majority would put liberals in jail very quickly in a democracy. A simple majority would do the same to conservatives. Do you really want a democracy?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 16, 2017 1:12 PM
Comment #420722

Look at what democracy has done to conservatives in Hollywood. Look at what democracy in Hollywood hides from the public? Look what happens to people who embarrass those same people who shield them. Harvey Wienstein is being crucified by democracy in Hollywood because someone broke the rules reporting his aggression toward women to the world. His abuse of women went on for decades and democracy in Hollywood chose to ignore it. Is this what you want in our political system at the highest levels of our country’s government, ohrealy? I don’t think so.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 16, 2017 1:25 PM
Comment #420723
Yeah, but to watch them go through all their gyrations trying to make a lame BS point is immensely entertaining. I am beyond caring, I just come here to play once in a while. Rocky Posted by: Rocky Marks at October 15, 2017 8:30 PM

Well, come to play more often. When infrequent, your posts get lost in the compoost. From years ago:

he is apparently either Eric Cartman, impaired or possibly very drunk…Posted by: ohrealy at March 21, 2008 02:47 PM

Posted by: ohrealy at October 16, 2017 4:31 PM
Comment #420725

Another terrorist never mentioned by the corporate media, or the white nationalist administration:

Asheville police brought Michael Christopher Estes into custody without incident along Airport Road after someone recognized him from media reports and called authorities, according to a press release sent out by the FBI. Shelley Lynch, spokeswoman for the FBI’s Charlotte bureau, said the investigation is ongoing and will be turned over to federal authorities. The package, discovered at 6:30 a.m. Friday, contained explosive matter, Lynch said. “I’m not at liberty to describe what it looked like, but it was a device that included explosive materials.” Airport Police discovered the item, described as an “explosive device,” and the Asheville Police Department’s Hazardous Device Team responded to render it safe

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2017/10/07/asheville-police-detain-man-sought-airport-explosive-incident/742795001/

Posted by: ohrealy at October 16, 2017 4:46 PM
Comment #420730

” You cannot defend Trump by saying he has a diverse cabinet, because he does not…”

phx8 would like a cabinet similar to that of the first Clinton administration. As someone noted, “his cabinet looks like the bar scene from Star wars.”

However, I must admit that phx8 has a point that is consistent with the Liberal political philosophy. A presidential cabinet is not chosen for competence, but rather, color of skin, nation of origin, religion or gender. And of course, they must be “yes-men” who never disagree with the boss.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 16, 2017 6:25 PM
Comment #420732

Rf,
Well! We certainly wouldn’t want yes-men in the cabinet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ARgUIpM6f0

Possibly the weirdest cabinet meeting in American history. Each member stated their position and then praised Trump. It was truly bizarre. And it was broadcast live.

As for competence… With the exceptions of Mattis and cabinet level official Kelly, most the Trump cabinet is laughably inept. Some are merely corrupt, like Price, who has already resigned. Other corrupt officials include Pruitt, Mnuchin, Chao, Zinke, Perry, and Shulkin. Some know literally nothing about the departments they head or how to run a large organization, such as Carson and DeVos. Others, such as Sessions at DOJ, lied under oath both aloud and in writing about his meetings with the Russian Ambassador.

Funny how conservatives always respond the same way when someone notices their lack of diversity. A collection of people representative of the population are dismissed by the very virtue of their not being white. Other conservatives denounce diversity as some sort of mysteriously mandated quota.

Posted by: phx8 at October 16, 2017 6:55 PM
Comment #420733

What you call diversity is actually a weapon used against political adversaries. It’s a boilerplate whine session for any occasion.

Where is it mandated that government must be run by specific groups? Are Hispanics inherently qualified for a certain position because of their race? Are Blacks genetically prone to run certain types of departments?

My, my phx8 you’re worse off than I thought!

When are you going to realize the entire foundation of identity politics is racism?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 16, 2017 7:08 PM
Comment #420734

Yea, ohrealy I remember that one. I had to look up who Eric Cartman was. I didn’t know. I was a fan of that show for a while, but I don’t watch it now. What was the context around that comment?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 16, 2017 7:12 PM
Comment #420735

Back then I was drunk. Quite a lot, actually. You know what I did? I made a choice. I put down the beer can and picked myself up.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 16, 2017 7:42 PM
Comment #420736

Our Pal on the Left is always making accusations about the president and his cabinet; but phx8 has yet to furnish us with a single verifiable fact regarding corruption.

His cries of “wolf” are now being ignored by all as the mere bleating of a sheeple.

President Obama and some in his administration clearly violated the Constitution. President Trump has now corrected the greatest violations of the obamacare law by executive order since Obama’s executive order sending money to insurance companies was unconstitutional.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 16, 2017 7:51 PM
Comment #420737

Another corpocratists/swamp dude is about to bite the dust. Sen. from PA who pushed law to limit DEA enforcement against opioids and is now Trump’s nominee to in the Trump admin dealing with drugs, FDA chief I believe.

I do hope Trump will show him and some other swamp folks a real hard time.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 16, 2017 8:23 PM
Comment #420738

Poor old RE, you can’t see the swamp when you’re sinking right into it. This guy is going to make sure the DEA doesn’t interfere with the activities of the drug companies. The Obama administration was trying to prevent this sort of nonsense. You also don’t seem to know the difference between the USHOR and the Senate:

Washington Post:

Marino was the chief advocate of the Ensuring Patient Access and Effective Drug Enforcement Act, which requires the government to meet a higher bar before taking certain enforcement actions.

The Drug Enforcement Administration fought against the bill for years, but finally relented last year after a leadership change at the agency. Marino is now …nominee to become the nation’s next drug czar.

The new law makes it virtually impossible for the DEA to freeze suspicious narcotic shipments from the companies…

The law was the crowning achievement of a multifaceted campaign by the drug industry to weaken aggressive DEA enforcement efforts against drug distribution companies that were supplying corrupt doctors and pharmacists who peddled narcotics to the black market. The industry worked behind the scenes with lobbyists and key members of Congress, pouring more than a million dollars into their election campaigns… at least $1.5 million to the 23 lawmakers who sponsored or co-sponsored four versions of the bill, including nearly $100,000 to Marino. Overall, the drug industry spent $106 million lobbying Congress on the bill and other legislation between 2014 and 2016, according to lobbying reports… Marino’s staff called the U.S. Capitol Police when The Washington Post and “60 Minutes” tried to interview the congressman at his office on Sept. 12.

I was complaining here many years ago about a chemical company in the Tri-City area of TN/VA that was producing acetic anhydride, a precursor chemical used in the
production of heroin:

https://arizona.pure.elsevier.com/en/publications/essential-precursor-chemical-control-for-heroin-impact-of-acetic-

One of the regular commenters here worked for the company.

Targeting Precursors used in Heroin Manufacture:

http://www.unodc.org/documents/regional/central-asia/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20red_paper_%20no%20maps%20v%20May%2007.pdf

Posted by: ohrealy at October 16, 2017 9:54 PM
Comment #420739
Brown skinned people? Black lives?

Kinda defensive when it comes to color aren’t you Weary? I mean really really defensive, you doth protest to much my friend.

To think that is all you got out of my last comment! Did you miss the part about Mexico paying for the wall? Or nothing says liberty like a wall around a country? You were silent about the broken Trump promise. What was it George Will said, gullibles?

Roy would have us believe building the wall is anathema to corportist! I was just questioning if that was true, as the tenuous grasp on reality that Roy has when it comes to Trump seems to preclude an honest answer, unless you believe it will make a f**kall bit of difference to corporate America.


John McCain on Trump
http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/10/16/john-mccain-uses-liberty-medal-acceptance-speech-to-trash-trump-bannon/

Posted by: j2t2 at October 17, 2017 1:13 AM
Comment #420742

Democratics see everything through the prism of race. It’s the foundation of identity politics. You couldn’t make and argument without using race if your life depended on it. Democratics should give their comments a litmus test to see if they are written with the race card in mind. Somehow it is always present in the discussion. Just ask phx8.

Mexico’s largest revenue, above oil exports, is remittances from the U.S. That’s an easy target. Taxing the money escaping our country would be a great way to pay for the wall. Just because Trump hasn’t completed a fully functional wall and a complete immigration policy in the first year of his term doesn’t mean he isn’t going to do it. There’s more to come. Especially after the grass roots candidates take more senate seats away from the establishment. Hold on to your hat, j2t2.


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 17, 2017 8:11 AM
Comment #420745

ohrealy, you didn’t mention that the opioid law was passed during the Obama admin.

And, do note, after the issue surfaced how quickly Trump dropped the guy. And, he may very well be an alright guy. The law was supposed to make sure people who really needed strong drugs had access to them. The drug companies/corpocratists worked, thereafter, to keep the DEA out of it. To be sure, millions of $ was spent on corpocratists lawmakers.

THis is just one minor infraction being conducted by the drug companies/establishment.

Another thing in the news right now is that many/most drugs can be bought over the counter way cheaper than can be purchased thru HC insurance plans.

Then, there is Bill on the tarmac with the attny gen, comey writing a get out of jail free note for Hillary months before the investigation was ‘complete’. A year or so back I lost $40k thru Puerto Rico investments while corruption drove them into bankruptcy and now they are howling about how the mainland should rebuild them from the ground up. Hill takes money from Harvey, the Saudis et al and won’t give it back.

So much to be pissed about. Go Bannon go …

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 17, 2017 12:50 PM
Comment #420746

Marino withdrew his name for consideration because he wasn’t going to get away with what they both wanted him to do. You seem to be confused about which side you are on in this case, but you are as gullible as George Will thinks you are.

For the rest of your soap opera allegations, continue to watch The Young and the Restless, The Bold and The Beautiful, Days of Our Lives (your guy was on that one, that’s what the access hollywood tape was about), and General Hospital to get more material to write here. The people you are describing are characters from those shows.

Go Bannon go where, to a Klan rally? Did you meet him there? You never answered my question about whether or not you have ever been a member of that or any other white nationalist organization. Your guy has persuaded me that he’s one of them.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 17, 2017 1:10 PM
Comment #420747

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

The Obama administration and some of its top officials have apparently seriously violated US laws and regulations. Hillary and Bill Clinton are knee deep in this scandal as well.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 17, 2017 4:20 PM
Comment #420749

When Trump announced he was running for President in June of 2015 I called him a dumpster fire.
No really, look it up.

I’ll just leave this here…

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-soulless-coward-coach-gregg-popovich-responds-to-trump/

“This man in the Oval Office is a soulless coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others. This has of course been a common practice of his, but to do it in this manner—and to lie about how previous presidents responded to the deaths of soldiers—is as low as it gets. We have a pathological liar in the White House, unfit intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically to hold this office, and the whole world knows it, especially those around him every day. The people who work with this president should be ashamed, because they know better than anyone just how unfit he is, and yet they choose to do nothing about it. This is their shame most of all.”

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at October 17, 2017 5:36 PM
Comment #420750

RF,
Use your brain. If the Russians compromised Hillary and Obama with a bribery plot involving something untoward to obtain uranium, why wouldn’t they have brought it up before now? If the Russians pulled this scam off in 2010, and were willing to go to such great lengths to affect the 2016 election, attack Hillary, and help Trump, why would they conceal this?

Rocky,
Good quote from Coach Pop. McCain gave a good speech too, about the importance of American ideals versus blood and soil. In reference to Trump and the horrendous things he said about Obama, said to conceal his own failure to reach out to the dead soldiers in Niger in the first place, Former Bush spokesman Marsha Wallace said ‘there is not bottom. We’ll just keep falling and falling.’ Trump used Chief Of Staff’s dead son in an attempt to politically score against Obama. There are no words to describe the depth of my contempt for Trump. He is one of the most horrible human beings I have ever heard.

Posted by: phx8 at October 17, 2017 5:51 PM
Comment #420751

You obviously did not read the article phx8 which provides the answer. The depth of the uranium deal was kept hidden from congressional oversight by both the AG and FBI director serving during this period.

Watch for more news on this as the onion gets peeled back further.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 17, 2017 6:55 PM
Comment #420753

Riiiiight… Because if we learned anything at all from the 2016 campaign about Director Comey and the FBI, it is how much they loved Hillary Clinton.

Meanwhile, Trump made it even worse when he phoned one of the mothers of a soldier who died in Niger, saying “he knew what he signed up for.” The woman has two small children and she is 6 months pregnant. Someone got it right when they said Trump has the empathy of a cockroach. Can we all just agree that for the rest of his presidency, Trump will NOT contact the relatives of soldiers who die in combat? Just… don’t. And can somebody please stop him from talking about Kelly’s son? If General Kelly wants to talk about it in public, that’s fine, but to drag it into the public sphere in order to attack Obama is disgusting.

Posted by: phx8 at October 17, 2017 11:27 PM
Comment #420755

He should attack Obama in any way possible.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 18, 2017 9:08 AM
Comment #420757
If the Russians compromised Hillary and Obama with a bribery plot involving something untoward to obtain uranium…Posted by: phx8 at October 17, 2017 5:51 PM

OMG, right wingnuts just can’t stop bringing the stupid. Mikerin was arrested for bribes in connection with transporting uranium FROM russia TO the US. This get mixed in with an old story about a canadian company based in south africa that a russian agency bought into, because a Clinton foundation donor owned a stake in the company which he sold when W was POTUS. No uranium was ever allowed to be exported from the US to russia. It’s like they have a bowl of ingredients, they put them in a blender and come out with a different story and pretend it’s something new.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 18, 2017 11:40 AM
Comment #420758

ohrealy,
Thanks for the clarification. I did not care to spend much time on such an obviously manufactured distraction.

It is strange to see how a made-up story like that one spreads. When I googled it there were lots and lots of conservative conspiracy sites bouncing the same story back and forth, as if that made the story somehow real, or legitimate. Hannity opened his show denouncing the media for not covering this.

And it is really amazing how easy it is to fool conservatives. They fall for this garbage every single time. Even when they know they have been fooled, they bite off on the next conspiracy theory just as readily. It is like watching someone throw in some baited hook at a fish farm. Somehow the fish forget what happened the last time they bit, and they take the bait hook, line, and sinker.

WW,
“He should attack Obama in any way possible.”
Yeah. Sure. How’s that workin’ out for ya?

In the Senate election in reddest of the red Alabama, the candidates are tied. Trump’s approval rating for that state is 48/47. Now, granted the GOP candidate, Judge Roy Moore, just got caught taking $1 million from a charity he repeatedly denied receiving money from- that would be enough to sink any Democratic candidate- but Alabama has a tolerance for sleaze and corruption that rivals Texas and South Carolina, so, we will see.

Posted by: phx8 at October 18, 2017 2:20 PM
Comment #420759

“It is strange to see how a made-up story like that one spreads.”

You bet phx8. The made up story is now being probed by the Senate Judiciary.

Senate Judiciary opens probe into Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery case

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355957-senate-judiciary-opens-probe-into-obama-era-russian-nuclear-bribery

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 18, 2017 3:09 PM
Comment #420760

You fall for it every time. Literally. It’s the same author, a Trump supporter, who wrote the previous article. A few months ago he wrote articles about how Flynn was set up by the FBI. He is REALLY into FBI conspiracy theories.

Remember how Trump had Sessions and Rosenstein draft that letter about how unfair Director Comey was to Hillary Clinton, and that is why Trump fired him? Probably not. Conservatives believed it was the reason Trump fired Comey for, oh, about 72 hours, until Trump announced in an interview that the firing was because of the Russian investigation.

But I don’t doubt Senator Grassley would pretend to go down that rabbit hole. He was the same Senator who tried so hard to discredit the Steele Dossier and Fusion GPS. Didn’t work. Not only did it fail, but the Fusion people wanted the transcript of the testimony made public. Grassley said ‘sure.’ And that was the last we ever heard of that transcript.

Posted by: phx8 at October 18, 2017 3:33 PM
Comment #420761

Fall for what phx8?

Letter sent by the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee.

“Attorney General Sessions
October 12, 2017

Notably, in the same month as the Clinton speech, Uranium One and Rosatom notified CFIUS of the Russian government’s intent to acquire twenty percent of the United States’
uranium assets. The next month, in July 2010, Renaissance Bank reportedly assigned Uranium One a “buy” rating, a move that would principally benefit its Russian investors.

The donations raise concerns about potential conflicts of interest for Secretary Clinton and the Obama administration.

The fact that Rosatom subsidiaries in the United States were
under criminal investigation as a result of a U.S. intelligence operation apparently around the time CFIUS approved the Uranium One /Rosatom transaction raises qestions about whether that information factored into CF
IUS’ decision to approve the transaction.
In order to assess the decisions concerning the sale of Uranium One , please answer the following questions…”

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2017-10-12%20CEG%20to%20DOJ%20(Uranium%20One%20Follow%20up).pdf

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 18, 2017 4:13 PM
Comment #420762
I don’t doubt Senator Grassley would pretend to go down that rabbit hole. Posted by: phx8 at October 18, 2017 3:33 PM
There are a lot of small colleges in Iowa, so he has to do double time spreading the stupid. I credited him for standing up to Icahn, even though I agree with Icahn on the stupidity of corn ethanol subsidies that Iowans and others are always trying to push on the rest of us. Only Dukakis ever went to Iowa and told them they could grow other, more profitable crops besides corn. A lot of good that did him.

Watchblog should come with a breathalyzer. Besides not being able to understand maths, the wingnuts don’t understand how a calendar works, and which years come before and after other years. Four numbers are just too many. The broadcasters and politicians who pander to them know exactly how gullible they are.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 18, 2017 5:02 PM
Comment #420768

pdx8, is the 5000 mile long river in the sky hitting Portland yet?

Posted by: ohrealy at October 18, 2017 11:30 PM
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