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Alright! Start The Clock Running On Hillary

With Robert Mueller being appointed Special Counsel the case against Hillary should be getting underway tout suite.

A great move by Trump’s admin. I am beyond elated with this news

Posted by Roy Ellis at May 17, 2017 6:26 PM
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Comment #416398

Wow…great minds think alike Roy. I just posted something similar on the Left blog.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 17, 2017 6:37 PM
Comment #416402

Agree Royal. We know he has the clearances, the funds, the human and material resources/information from three coincidental investigations so he will be able to move forthrightly and on a broad scale to address the issues at hand.

Hillary’s case, being the oldest, should just be sitting neatly on the shelf, ready for prosecution. I don’t think Trump will give her the Chelsea Manning treatment either.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at May 17, 2017 7:39 PM
Comment #416404

Indeed Roy. Special Counsels have tremendous latitude, and no time constraints, in where the investigation may go.

I have no fear of what may be found.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 17, 2017 7:43 PM
Comment #416406

You guys are hilarious! It is beyond credulity to posit that Robert Mueller might learn anything about Hillary Clinton that James Comey did not uncover or that he will reach a different conclusion. Comey did a thorough job and Mueller is well aware of this from their previous work together.

In case you hadn’t noticed, Rod Rosenstein’s statement instructs Mueller to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Given previous conclusions from the intelligence community that Russia acted to hurt Hillary Clinton’s chances, the chance that her email server comes back into focus are slim to none.

Nevertheless, only in due time will we know what Robert Mueller discovers. I freely admit that there are very few boundaries here.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 17, 2017 7:57 PM
Comment #416407

Exactly Warren. We all should want all the supposed misdeeds investigated that have happened during the Trump era. That’s the only way the country can move forward and that will allow Trump to carry out his agenda.

Granted, Trump can get some things done during the investigations. Like today he did 40+ raids on MS13 in Calif. Perhaps more than the previous admin did in 8 yeas. But, we really need to get on the other side of these investigations before Trump can get a lot done thru congress. Just look at the stock market today as an example.

The investigation into Hillary should only need a quik review, put postage stamps on it and move it out. Her case definitely should be the first one to be prosecuted, IMO.

In any event, we don’t want any of these cases drug out more than a year, certainly not active near or during the next election cycle. We need more Republican seats on the East and West coast and that will be done more easily with a clean sweep of these investigations. We don’t want the IRS doodling in Trump’s tax returns come election time.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at May 17, 2017 8:50 PM
Comment #416408
The investigation into Hillary should only need a quik review

James Comey concluded last July that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Hillary Clinton. Robert Mueller is not going to decide differently unless he encounters new evidence.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 17, 2017 9:53 PM
Comment #416409

WP, for whatever reason COmey decided not to recommend prosecution for Hillary. I believe he felt strongly that he would be prosecuting the next President of the USA and didn’t have the balls to go with that.

He followed that one up by refusing to investigate/prosecute the Clinton Foundation. Followed that up by doing nothing, as I am aware, about the Flynn outing by unknown sources, and so on - - -

Whatever, I’m super pleased that Comey was removed. Now Mueller can go back and clean up his $hit. And, Hillary can get her well deserved justice for trashing Natl Security and giving the Sov’s a treasure trove of classified.

Chelsea Manning was given some 20-30 years for her wikileaks dump. Surely, Hillary will get more time than that based on the level of the breach. And, no doubt she would have to wait for a dem administration to come to power to get any relief which don’t look likely anytime soon.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at May 17, 2017 10:35 PM
Comment #416410

Sorry Roy, but you are well off in the deep end on this one. Comey’s decision not to recommend prosecution last July was made on the basis of the evidence he had, not on intimidation from the Obama administration or Hillary Clinton.

Now Mueller can go back and clean up his $hit. And, Hillary can get her well deserved justice

I’m afraid your polluted mind will not be satisfied with Mueller. Rosenstein’s order makes clear Mueller’s primary responsibility is to investigate “any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump”. Hillary Clinton is nowhere to be found on the document. Now, it is true that special prosecutors have wide discretion to follow wherever the evidence may take them, but it would take the (incidental) discovery of significant evidence relating to Hillary Clinton to redirect things in the direction you imagine.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 17, 2017 11:10 PM
Comment #416414

Somehow Special Council Star investigated a “shady real estate deal” and got side tracked into an investigation of $ex in the Oval Office, so it’s not hard to imagine this investigation going off on a tangent if the mood strikes.

Comey may hav not recommended prosecution last July, but he made sure he was clear he would prosecute any one else who did the same.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 18, 2017 12:01 AM
Comment #416416
side tracked into an investigation of $ex in the Oval Office

Yes, Starr encountered “the (incidental) discovery of significant evidence” and tacked accordingly.

If Mueller uncovers something new about Hillary Clinton, then he certainly can pursue that route. But, I have no reason to doubt that Comey’s work last year was thorough enough to leave nothing new left to discover.

he made sure he was clear he would prosecute any one else who did the same.

Where on Earth do you get this idea? Here’s Comey’s testimony from last summer:

I’m highly confident there would be no criminal prosecution no matter who it was. There would be some range of discipline, they might get fired, they might lose their clearance, they might be suspended for 30 days, could be some discipline.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 18, 2017 12:28 AM
Comment #416449

I would be insulted about the coverage going on if I were Republicans. They’re putting out false hopes like this, not being straight with people about how problematic the situation is for Trump, or about how much of this is his responsibility.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 18, 2017 12:33 PM
Comment #416455

OK Stephen, I’ll bite. Please dump your brain detritus for us and explain; “false hopes”, “problematic situation” and Trump’s “responsibility.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 18, 2017 2:29 PM
Comment #416457

If I were you Stephen I would be embarrassed by the action of your people in Congress. You have w Waters and that IDIOT from Texas calling for impeachment. Then you have Schumer acting like a fool so Stephen if I were you I’d take care of my own party before talking about someone else’s party.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at May 18, 2017 2:51 PM
Comment #416461
You have w Waters and that IDIOT from Texas calling for impeachment

We all know that Republicans never tossed around the I-word when discussing President Obama, right?

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 18, 2017 4:29 PM
Comment #416462

Sure they did Warped, But not like those 2 IDIOTS.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 18, 2017 4:39 PM
Comment #416463
not like those 2

Please do explain the difference.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 18, 2017 4:44 PM
Comment #416464

Warped, I never heard any MSM show a republican every day like you see Waters do impeach 45. And that Idiot from Texas going on the House floor and calling for the impeachment of Trump that was classic. I know the Republicans have some real winners but Democrats over did it.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 18, 2017 4:54 PM
Comment #416466

I am sure you realize Rich, that the typical Liberal/Socialist will defend Satan if it furthers their agenda.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 18, 2017 5:02 PM
Comment #416468

They did for 8 years R. F.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 18, 2017 5:09 PM
Comment #416469
I never heard any MSM show a republican every day

So, you fault Waters & Green because the MSM took their wanton speeches seriously and you excuse similarly situated Republicans because the MSM did not give them the same platform?

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 18, 2017 5:11 PM
Comment #416473

Warped, Waters with her mouth everyday even before the inaugural. The Texas IDIOT before any investigation concluded. Stop with the BULLS××T Warped. Like I stayed Republicans have their share of idiots but it seems the Democrats collected the most.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at May 18, 2017 5:27 PM
Comment #416474

This is simply too funny not to share. I am quite certain Governor Moonbeam would pass Warren and phx8’s Liberal test for President as they think alike.

“The 1,000,000 citizens in Los Angeles county alone who collect food stamps provided by taxpayers are not freeloaders. The millions of illegal immigrants being harbored in California’s sanctuary cities to the cost of taxpayers are not freeloaders. Illegal immigrants being provided “free” legal help by the state on the backs of taxpayers are not freeloaders. The bloodsuckers in the Sacramento legislature who get paid $178 a day in per diem funds on top of their bloated salaries just for walking in the door to their job every day are not freeloaders.

No, you – the burdened, law-abiding taxpayer are the freeloader for simply asking the government of California be more fiscally responsible with the money they already have instead of stealing more of your money without your consent to pay for programs that are already funded but have been raided for pet projects and personal enrichment.

Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/california-governor-jerry-brown-freeloaders/#ixzz4hT6kc3b8

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 18, 2017 5:38 PM
Comment #416493

Royal Flush-
It’s pretty damn simple. You guys keep on trying to convince yourselves that it’s all just a liberal plot. Trouble is, there’s more to that than just party politics. Even to the extent that it is partisan, the Democrats have a natural reason to indulge their rivalry here: the opposition is falling down on the job.

Your response, rather than to take responsibility, is to deny there’s a problem at all. That lasts as long as your people can remain convinced there isn’t a problem. I don’t know how long your party discipline will allow that to continue… I think the emergence of both the Comey Memo, post-firing, and the revelation that Trump had dealt away code-word classified intelligence from the Israelis to Russia, were enough to shake members of Congress out of the fantasy that they could just wish it all away.

It’s time to realize you’re not actually protecting the GOP all that well. The Denial is only opening up an even greater weakness, and nobody’s buying the rationalizations outside the party. The polls are showing that while Republicans are flocking to defend Trump on the charges, everybody else is flocking away. Republican seats in stalwart districts are trending towards Democrats. Republicans are doing little to counterbalance the Midterm cyclical tendency to punish the party in power.

How bad does it have to get for the GOP to wake itself up?

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 19, 2017 11:01 AM
Comment #416494
This is simply too funny not to share. I am quite certain Governor Moonbeam would pass Warren and phx8’s Liberal test for President as they think alike.

Actually it is to sad not to share Royal. The sad fact is you are a victim of fake news. Google “Gov. Jerry Brown freeloader comment” and you will see a vicious misinformation campaign by conservative propagandist rags copying from each other. The quote you used wasn’t from Brown it was from some idiot propagandist and it was opinion not what Brown actually said. Clickbait journalism at its worse, and you fell for it.

When people like you spew vile and hateful comments at others on the site and then back up your sorry a** comments with concocted propaganda it is sad. This type of propaganda hurts our country and it seems conservatives wallow in it.


http://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/12/gov-brown-defends-gas-tax-local-legislator/

Posted by: j2t2 at May 19, 2017 11:59 AM
Comment #416501

Perhaps my Pal j2t2 will believe this source.

“The $52-billion plan was approved by a two-thirds legislative majority required for tax increases, with no votes to spare. It includes a 12-cent per gallon gas tax beginning Nov. 1 and an increase to the vehicle license fee tied to the vehicle’s value, expected to cost the average driver about $50 more a year beginning Jan. 1.

“The freeloaders — I’ve had enough of them,” Brown said, adding that the approved tax and fee hikes bring those charges to the level they were 30 years ago if adjusted for inflation. “They have a president that doesn’t tell the truth and they’re following suit.”

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/12/gov-brown-defends-gas-tax-local-legislator/

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 19, 2017 3:18 PM
Comment #416512

Very good Royal now who specifically was he talking about, when he used the term freeloader, the repubs in the legislature or the taxpayers?

Hopefully you can see the difference between the piece of s**t propagandist source you thought was funny and a real source of news. The OC Register didn’t resort to opinion with no facts for it’s readers, like RedState, and the result wasn’t clickbait crap that only served to enrage the weak minded followers of such propaganda.

Judging from your cherry picking of the facts in the Register you have issue with something other than the use of the term “freeloader” by Brown but how would we have known this when you were laughing about “Gov.Moonbeam” calling the taxpayers freeloaders, despite the fact he didn’t do any such thing. Seems to me “Gov. Pay as you go” would be more appropriate.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 19, 2017 7:25 PM
Comment #416529

RF said

I am sure you realize Rich, that the typical Liberal/Socialist will defend Satan if it furthers their agenda.


Kap said

They did for 8 years R. F.

Ouch !! That’s gonna leave a mark. Lmao !

Posted by: dbs at May 20, 2017 10:45 AM
Comment #416535
Like I stayed Republicans have their share of idiots but it seems the Democrats collected the most.

Why does it seem that way to you, KAP? Waters & Green have made a premature rush to judgement, no different than numerous Republicans over the past 8 years. Yet, without explanation, you assert that Democrats are guilty of worse.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 20, 2017 3:41 PM
Comment #416543

Hilary broke the law and was not prosecuted. Let’s hope the evidence is revisited, and justice is served. Not gonna hold my breath though. This deep state bullshit needs to be brought to a screeching halt.

Posted by: dbs at May 21, 2017 8:49 AM
Comment #416544

j2

The cost to register a vehicle in California is already ridiculous. This will hurt the middle class the most. Brown referring to those against the tax increase as freeloaders is completely out of line. Only freeloaders in California are the elected officials, and those living on public assistance.

Posted by: dbs at May 21, 2017 8:56 AM
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