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I Voted For Trump!

I’m glad I supported him. I’m relieved he was elected. I’m one of the very few people on WatchBlog that openly supported him.

Congratulations Roy Ellis! We did it!

There's obviously some emotion being demonstrated after the election results were finalized. Hillary's crowd at her party looked like they were waiting for a movie to start. I watched on Fox News stream for most of the night. I went to bed when Pennsylvania had 95% of the vote counted. Trump had a lead in Michigan as well, but I went to bed feeling unsure. I woke the next morning wondering if the wall held for Hillbilly and that was not the case. I was relieved and glad. I was also apprehensive about the future. This was just step one in a journey that already has the opposition's teeth bared.

Congratulations, again to all of us who openly supported Donald Trump here on WatchBlog! The opening battle is won!


Posted by Weary_Willie at November 9, 2016 7:11 PM
Comments
Comment #409804

Weary, I stayed up late enough to watch and listen to Mr. Trump address and thank his supporters. I don’t know how a man his age can display such energy. I am so glad that Mr. Trump did not forget to thank the Secret Service for keeping him safe.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 9, 2016 7:44 PM
Comment #409807

I hung in there until about 3:30, often jumping up and down with some glee. My son said his 3 preteens watched until about 1:30 and was engaged and excited about the process. They have been discussing the election in their civics class, which I thought had been tossed years ago.

A historical election; as much as I dislike WaPo I went out and bought 10 papers and will get another 10 tomorrow. Pass them around to the kids and grandkids for keepsakes.

I’ve been in some level of distress over the ship of state for several years and when I knew Trump had the votes I felt at peace and assume that feeling will continue.

If he brings the same level of energy to the WH it’s going to be a real joy ride…

Posted by: roy ellis at November 9, 2016 8:03 PM
Comment #409808

I hope there is focus on infrastructure and a slash and burn mentality toward the red tape regulations that hinder projects.

I truly hope he looks at the function of government as a business and not a jobs program. There are many procedures that can be upgraded and redundant processes that could be eliminated.

He also put a target on the Dept. of Education. He can get rid of that right away. He can’t be shy about slashing government jobs. Like I said, it needs to be run like a business, not a jobs program.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2016 8:37 PM
Comment #409810

You know, there were only five seats for President’s George Washington’s cabinet.

They were for
the Secretary of State
the Secretary of the Treasury
the Secretary of War
the Attorney General
the Postmaster General.

Since then there have been added

the Secretary of Interior,
the Secretary of Agriculture,
the Secretary of Commerce,
the Secretary of Labor,
the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development,
the Secretary of Transportation
the Secretary of Energy
the Secretary of Education
the Secretary of Veteran Affairs
the Secretary of Homeland Security.

Most of which are definitely intruding on the state. The 10th amendment should really be taken to the level of respect it deserves.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 9, 2016 8:59 PM
Comment #409812

Congratulations you guys. Again, I am VERY happy that I was wrong.

“This was just step one in a journey that already has the opposition’s teeth bared.”

As expected, they are already out there with their ridiculous ‘protesting’ in multiple cities. Mostly socialist bern-outs who have gulped down the leftist hyperbole and propaganda. Democrats gave these anti-American thugs legitimacy, they own them. They have been very fortunate that Americans have chosen the ballot box.
Pitiful and pathetic.

Interestingly, for all the false claims of the right being racist before and during Obama’s terms, I don’t recall anything like this after the elections in 08 and 12.

Posted by: kctim at November 9, 2016 9:34 PM
Comment #409818

MSNBC seems to be happy about the protests.
I guess Cher, Whoopy Goldberg, Samuel L. Jackson, and Rosie ODonnell will be moving out of the U.S. ?

Posted by: D.a.n at November 9, 2016 11:35 PM
Comment #409819

kctim,
Protestors are not “thugs.” They are exercising a right. And it is not that surprising, considering how shocking the outcome of this election turned out to be.

Remember, the electoral college- not a majority or even plurality of Americans- put an overt racist into the White House. Remember, this is a guy who got his start in politics championing a racist conspiracy theory, Birtherism, in the 2012 campaign. More than once he has been caught tweeting material originally posted on Neo-Nazi web sites by people with names like “WhitegenocideTM.”

And remember, this is a guy who wanted to establish a religious test for entering the country. In a prepared statement he declared that he wanted to ban Muslims from entering the country.

He is a stone cold bigot. Do I need to copy and paste things he said about Mexicans?

The worst part is the misogyny. This is a guy who has had five children by three different women. He has openly and repeatedly bragged about being an adulterer, and I am not even talking about the Access Hollywood video, where he bragged about being a sexual predator.

He has repeatedly stated he wants to appoint a Special Prosecutor to go after Hillary Clinton, and he has repeatedly encouraged crowds to chant “lock her up.” That is what he does. It is a scorched earth approach to politics, both in the GOP primary and in the general election, consisting of name calling and appealing to people’s worst instincts.

And his authoritarian approach is scary. The idea that he knows more than the generals, that he alone can fix the country.

This country failed. A racist, bigoted, misogynistic xenophobe has taken the White House. I will oppose him at every opportunity.

And the people here who voted for him OWN him. They own the racism, the bigotry, the fear of others, and the disgraceful, horrible attitude towards women.

Posted by: phx8 at November 9, 2016 11:41 PM
Comment #409820

Give it a break, phx8.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 12:26 AM
Comment #409825

The problem is, while some of those things phx states are true, Hillary is worse.
Hillary broke many laws.
Intent is not important.
All that matters is that laws were broken, and who broke those laws.
Comey was wrong for not holding up the law.
The NYPD may still pursue indictments against Hillary.

As for popular vote, that is debatable, since so many dead people and an estimated 3% of all votes are by illegal aliens that vote Democrat. Also, electoral votes favor the Democrat party, since they are based on population which does not account for millions of illegal aliens without citizenship (especially in border states and states with large sanctuary cities). Therefore, I seriously doubt Hillary truly got the popular vote.

Posted by: D.a.n at November 10, 2016 7:54 AM
Comment #409826

By the way, I did not vote for Trump.
I voted for a third party candidate that I think was better than Hillary or Trump.
I thought that is what voting was supposed to be all about.
But many voters instead often are voting in a fashion to primarily prevent someone from getting elected.
Elections may have different results if we did not know anyone else is voting.

Posted by: D.a.n at November 10, 2016 8:04 AM
Comment #409827

Correction:
Elections may have different results if we did not know HOW anyone else is voting.

Posted by: D.a.n at November 10, 2016 8:07 AM
Comment #409830

I wonder how many of those that are protesting actually voted? IMO if you don’t vote you have no business to B***H about the results of an election.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at November 10, 2016 8:42 AM
Comment #409831

phx8 is wrong 100% of the time. He’s constantly crying and when the truth comes out he simply shifts to the next batch of faux outrages. It’s impossible to take him seriously.

Headlines read, “Trump Wins! Market Yawns”. However, phx8 spewed a market collapse. He said the same with Brexit. He falsely claimed Hillbilly would win and the senate would go Democratic. All Wrong!

phx8 is crying in his beer and is simply lashing out with whatever enters his delusional mind. He needs to adopt some level of humility instead of wasting everyone’s time with fantasy.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 8:49 AM
Comment #409833

Phx8,
These little pi$$ant ows, blm, socialist alternative type ‘protestors’ have engaged in violence and destruction in the past because things were simply not going how they desired. Last night some were calling for succession and blood. They burned Trump props and had one with a rope around its neck. They wreaked havoc on the general population. ALL things you have complained in the past about some alt right group of doing.

Your Trump is a racist, sexist, bigot, predator and doom hyperbole and predictions have grown tired my friend. There is no doubt that nonsense will only ramp up over the next 4 years and will only encourage more of their thuggish behavior.

This new democrat party and it’s defense, support and promotion of these extremists are a big part to Trump being elected.

Posted by: Kctim at November 10, 2016 9:24 AM
Comment #409835
Thanks for your support, phx8!

Posted by: President-Elect Donald Trump at November 9, 2016 10:00 PM

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 10:06 AM
Comment #409840

Kind of hard to unite a divided country when even after Trump won his supporters are still bad mouthing the “left” as cry babies and whiners throwing tantrums. I’m all for draining the swamp and while i’m not a trump fan, he won, lets give him a chance. But sore winners should simply let people vent their frustration. If the results had gone the other way some on the right threatened a full revolt, Donald himself said he wouldn’t promise to accept results unless he won. People are emotional. If trump plays his cards right he may have the best chance to finally unite a very divided country. Insulting the losers though isnt going to help unite anything. The only thing worse than a sore losers is a sore winner. There are more democrats to blame or stand in the way of Republicans.

Posted by: Paul at November 10, 2016 11:08 AM
Comment #409842

Paul,

Exactly my sentiments.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 10, 2016 11:19 AM
Comment #409843

The right didn’t shit on police cars when Obama was elected. The right didn’t fill the streets and disrupt everyday life when Obama got elected.

The left can lie to themselves to make themselves feel better or justify their actions, but the simple truth is the protests, both then and now, are juvenile behavior at least.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 11:26 AM
Comment #409844

It’s more about the left being PISS POOR LOSERS.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at November 10, 2016 11:32 AM
Comment #409846

The left moved out of their mother’s basement and commandeered public lands for months in their so called protests/tantrums.

It’s fair to say when Republicans take over public lands they’re prosecuted and thrown in jail, or shot by law enforcement.

The double standard is obvious. The left is being used as pawns and allowed to disrupt society while the right is immediately persecuted.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 11:35 AM
Comment #409848

A few days or weeks of calling people losers and whiners isn’t why it will be hard to unite a divided country. It’s the nine plus years of calling everyone who disagrees with you unintelligent racist, sexist, bigots that has done that.

If you want to heal the divide and unite the country, stop trying to force large urban style liberal politics, beliefs and so-called values onto everybody else.

Posted by: Kctim at November 10, 2016 12:05 PM
Comment #409850

D.A.N do you any reliable proof on your claim 3% of the popular vote (are dead or illegal immigrants that all voted for Clinton) is not mere fiction?

Posted by: j2t2 at November 10, 2016 12:14 PM
Comment #409853

This isn’t a good sign

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 10, 2016 1:36 PM
Comment #409855

Do you think a Trump supporter vandalized that wall, Warren Porter?

Just by the wording I’d say it was a BLM person who decided being involved in BLM and his vote for Clinton were unsuccessful and therefore it doesn’t matter. That’s a person who has lost hope in their political establishment. That’s a person who feels betrayed by the groups he associated with.

Why would a Trump supporter feel that disheartened? We won!

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 3:31 PM
Comment #409858

Has anyone taken credit for the graffiti Warren?

I recall phx8 informing us that he did well in the equity and/or bond markets some time ago. Recently, he predicted massive declines in the equity markets here and around the world.

As of this writing, the DOW is at 18,809 and up 219 for the day.

No one can predict what the market will do and I am wondering why phx8 was so pessimistic…and why he was obviously wrong.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2016 4:07 PM
Comment #409861

No matter who wrote the graffito, it isn’t a good sign for the country’s stability or Trump’s aspiration to bring people together. I have already said this before, but it would behoove Trump for him to recognize that he is the candidate who not only received fewer votes on Tuesday than his opponent, but he also received fewer votes than either of the two previous Republican nominees. He will be our President, and I will support him for the time being, but he does not have the maneuvering space to continue playing white identity politics.

Whatever comes of his, the Left also has bitter medicine that it needs to take. Both sides have lessons they need to learn.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 10, 2016 4:27 PM
Comment #409862

Regarding the markets, I admit I am surprised that they have done well the last two days. Trump has threatened trade wars and tariffs, which I thought would spook investors. Still, it will be an excellent experiment to see where the economy goes after Trump explodes the deficit with massive tax cuts and spending on defence and infrastructure. Already, the bond market is positioning itself in anticipation of higher interest rates and inflation.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 10, 2016 4:37 PM
Comment #409863

RF,
I cashed out of the market prior to the election. Since you wonder, I was invested in big cap high tech stocks, including AMZN, FB, and AAPL. Since then they have taken a hammering. AMZN has been targeted for retribution by Trump for WaPo articles, plus earnings fell short of expectations. You’ll be glad to know I made a lot of money on AMZN and avoided giving it back when the hi tech stocks tanked. Did really well with FB and COST too, ok with Starbucks and MSFT.

Generally speaking, if I am going to invest in the stock market it will be for growth, so I look for big companies with a lot of cash and a reputation for innovation. Generally speaking, Trump hates certain hi tech companies in particular and Silicon Valley in general, and he has a reputation for being vengeful, and he is about to become the most powerful man in the world.

C&J suggested playing the bounce, but I don’t like volatile markets. Right now the market is rotating into the big banks and pharmaceuticals. Personally, I do not like investing in either industry. In addition, the Fed will almost certainly raise interest rates next month, so there is a predictable significant drop in the not too distant future which is not priced into the markets.

On the plus side, the economy is very strong: full employment, highest consumer confidence in 9 years, low energy prices, low interest rates, low inflation, 3rd quarter GDP 2.9%

Trump is unpredictable. He says a lot of things that are just lies, or that he does not mean. Will he impose 45% tariffs on China and 35% tariffs on Mexico? He has no experience with government and no experience with the military.

So I am watching and looking for opportunities. Obama will be in office for a little longer, but I try to take a longer view than a few months for anything major.

Posted by: phx8 at November 10, 2016 4:51 PM
Comment #409864

If President Elect Donald Trump can demonstrate the discipline and restraint not to gloat and generally be a jerk maybe his supporters should take his lead. He has already toned done his rhetoric about banning Muslims and suing all kinds of people. I feel sorry for racists and other wackos who think because they supported him that he supports them. I know i may be dreaming in color but if he comes out with his law and order stuff and tells everyone including these KKK, nazi wanna bees that there going to get their butts kicked too he’ll surprise the crap out of everyone. Thats the one thing i’ll give this guy, he is unpredictable and shows no exclusive loyalty to any party or social groups. If he squanders this chance he’ll quickly be written off and things will go back to the same old partisanship it was before. But if he can bridge the divide it might just pull this off. in the end its up to him to decide if he wants to pander to his supporters or win over all Americans.

Posted by: Paul at November 10, 2016 4:52 PM
Comment #409865

Already, the bond market is positioning itself in anticipation of higher interest rates and inflation.
Posted by: Warren Porter at November 10, 2016 4:37 PM

Higher interest rates have been baked into the cake and anticipated long ago.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2016 4:56 PM
Comment #409867

Glad you did well in the market phx8. But, I would like to know what happened with your warning of a huge correction.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2016 5:00 PM
Comment #409869

The futures markets tanked 750 point and recovered as quickly as they fell. I believe that was international investors reacting to Trump’s win. Over the longer run, it might be worth recalling the stock markets fell a lot during the first days of Obama’s second term, and went on to perform very well.

I’m not greedy and I’m not afraid to let someone else make money. I don’t like losing. That’s a bad feeling.

There is a lot of cash on the sidelines. Investors are deciding where to go. Interest rate increases help banks, and so does the prospect of repealing Dodd-Frank and letting the financial sector run wild. But like I said, I don’t like those guys. It’s just me. Moral investing, I suppose.

Defense might be a good opportunity, but again that is an area I just won’t do. Trump will be tested early by an adversary. He does not now how to run a large organization. He is also very easy to manipulate. Someone will try something before Trump is ready for it. The Russians may try something using a third party. Who knows? The future looks very dim for the independence of Ukraine and the Baltic states. That tension might give defense stocks a boost- that, and the talk of increasing military spending.

Posted by: phx8 at November 10, 2016 5:32 PM
Comment #409870

OK, you don’t have any reason, which you will share, for your prediction of a market crash should Trump be elected which was your prognostication days before the election.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 10, 2016 5:44 PM
Comment #409884

He has no idea, Royal Flush. It’s like the guy flips a 2 headed coin and goes negative. He won’t even admit he is wrong. He just keeps doubling down.

Warren Porter, that was a hilarious video you linked to.


Posted by: Weary Willie at November 10, 2016 8:42 PM
Comment #409900
The right didn’t shit on police cars when Obama was elected. The right didn’t fill the streets and disrupt everyday life when Obama got elected.

Perhaps you are right Weary. What the right did was get movement leaders together and plan. They s**t on the people of this country instead. They refused to create jobs by upgrading our infrastructure, they schemed up ways to block any progress until they were running the show.

The double standard is obvious. The left is being used as pawns and allowed to disrupt society while the right is immediately persecuted.

Weary isn’t that what you are doing right now , persecuting the protestors?

Posted by: j2t2 at November 11, 2016 9:30 AM
Comment #409902

I didn’t put anyone in jail. I didn’t shoot anyone on the side of the road. So, no. I didn’t persecute anyone.

It was Obama and a Democratic controlled congress that passed a stimulus package that went… Where? Where did 700 billion dollars go? What happened to those “Shovel Ready Jobs”, j2t2.

The right did what they were elected to do. It took 8 years, but they finished the job of getting Democratics out of the way. You’re either part of the solution or part of the problem now, j2t2. What’s it going to be?

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 11, 2016 10:35 AM
Comment #409903
Higher interest rates have been baked into the cake and anticipated long ago.

The change in interest rates this week is simply stunning and is an aberation from the previous trend.

Recall, Clinton’s proposed policies would’ve led to a sustainable debt-to-gdp ratio of about 80%. Trump, on the other hand, has proposed raising the debt-to-gdp ratio to at least 103%. That’s not sustainable and should only be contemplated in the event of war or economic catastrophe.

It is going to be weird next year with a whole bunch of fiscal stimulus spending coming at a time when we’ve already reached full employment.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 11, 2016 10:56 AM
Comment #409904

Government debt to gdp is already over 100% and has been for a number of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Federal_Debt_Total_Public_Debt_as_Percent_of_Gross_Domestic_Product.pdf

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 11, 2016 11:14 AM
Comment #409905
I didn’t put anyone in jail. I didn’t shoot anyone on the side of the road. So, no. I didn’t persecute anyone.

Using this definition Weary you weren’t persecuted either so why tell us you were immediately persecuted? Seems to me the protests were peaceful at the start, then Anarchist started to break things and the violence started. Or perhaps

It was Obama and a Democratic controlled congress that passed a stimulus package that went… Where? Where did 700 billion dollars go? What happened to those “Shovel Ready Jobs”, j2t2.

Well for starters 44% was tax breaks demanded by repubs Weary. The 700 billion dollars was only 1/3rd of what was needed. The money for shovel ready projects was spent on projects whether or not it was “shovel ready” the money was used across the country. As is the case with all construction projects Weary one works oneself out of oa job as the project completes.
But lets move ahead a bit Weary to the past 6 years the repubs didn’t put any real jobs creation legislation on the presidents desk. Yet we are supposed to believe now that Trump is president it will happen? What changed other than the need to obstruct Obama is no longer needed.

The right did what they were elected to do. It took 8 years, but they finished the job of getting Democratics out of the way. You’re either part of the solution or part of the problem now, j2t2. What’s it going to be?

So now the dems were elected to do the same thing right so how could they be in the way? To suggest the repubs/conservatives weren’t obstructing anything to get the economy moving is to deny reality.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 11, 2016 11:34 AM
Comment #409919

The Democratics campaigned on fixing a broken economy in 2008. When they got elected they concentrated almost exclusively on their healthcare takeover.

They governed against the will of the people the entire time. They got their butts thrown out in 2010 because of it.

Also, I didn’t say I was persecuted. I was drawing attention to the totally opposite reaction to the ows protesters that took over parks and public lands and the protesters in Idaho, one of whom was shot on the side of the road.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 11, 2016 5:58 PM
Comment #409927

j2 wrote; “They refused to create jobs by upgrading our infrastructure, they schemed up ways to block any progress until they were running the show.”

Hmmm…can you please tell us how $10 Trillion in additional spending got approved with such obstruction? And, can you please tell us where it went? It was shovel ready to get shoveled into the pockets of unions and rich folk who support liberal policies.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 11, 2016 6:50 PM
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