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How Did America Get Such Nonsensical Candidates?

The world is watching the 2016 presidential election with eyes wide open and heads shaking in disbelief. The reason is because of the idiotic circus and criminal way the election has progressed. Thanks to the internet the global public can do their own homework, communicate, and assess the truth like never before.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump emerged as the people's choice regarding the best available candidates out of over 300 million Americans. How this happened is due to basic laziness and delusion on the part of the American people and a tribute to the application of basic mind control and behavioral modification. It's as though the entire population has been hypnotized to perform in the most absurd and self destructive nature. The populations of the world are most worried about whom the U.S. Will turn its weaponry upon and the new president will be the prime decision maker regarding this. More so, economics are a huge issue with Trump supporters actually believing he will bring bounty and wealth to his support group. Clinton's economic acumen is nowhere near validated but the minorities and lower middle class, as well as perhaps a majority of the middle class as a whole knowing what will happen if the Republicans gain the White House, another run of banking and real estate ripoffs.

It's a shame that the millions of brave, courageous, intelligent Americans who would make excellent presidents have no chance at all to take the helm. Why none of these people could come to the fore is a sad testament to how the political process has continued to become a dwindling spiral of corruption and evil. The American people, however, must take responsibility for this continuing cycle of stupidity because they've the means to put an end to it overnight should they wish, but their fear and slothful nature has doomed them to this chronic political quagmire that has brought the United States to the status of borderline Third World country.

After this election, the first year of the new president, whether Clinton or Trump will be met with extreme public disarray. It may well end the way politics and government are run as it's sure that protests and vengeful acts of violence and absurdity will occur. It's crystal clear that the American people, who openly turned on Senator Bernie Sanders whose campaign was about attacking corruption, don't want corruption wiped out. Probably because the sad truth is, the majority of Americans ARE corrupt and like ancient Rome are headed for a sad and embarrassing fate.

Posted by GregB at October 25, 2016 6:59 PM
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Comment #409024

When you look at the way non-establishment candidates are treated by the media and the establishment, it’s no wonder no one has a chance.

Donald Trump got past the media and the establishment because he was spending his own money and the media thought his mouth would end his campaign. He didn’t need to pander to big money donors that buy their candidates. If he tried to get the nomination without his own money he wouldn’t have gotten to first base. If he pandered to special interests he wouldn’t have gotten anywhere either.

The people are tired of the media picking their candidates for them. There are hundreds of people who have signed up to run for the presidency. The Republicans were lucky to get 16 of them on stage. Half of them barely got noticed by the media. The Democratics were offered 4 this time. Why, out of hundreds of candidates, are only the chosen few brought to our attention?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 25, 2016 7:49 PM
Comment #409026

Yes, the majority of Americans are corrupt and as long as the money keeps going from somebody else’s pocket into their own, they will keep falling in line to vote for more corruption.

Protests, vengeful acts of violence and absurdity will occur only if Trump were to win, and that’s not going to happen.
Sure there will be the rare isolated incidents under Hillary, but they will be nothing like the violence, rioting, looting and destruction that would occur under Trump.

Posted by: kctim at October 26, 2016 8:53 AM
Comment #409028

Are you saying Trump supporters would be doing the violence?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 26, 2016 8:58 AM
Comment #409031

No Weary. I am saying that IF Trump were to somehow win, history shows us that the leftists will promote and engage in their so-called ‘protests’ and violence.
They will do their typical screams of rigged election, stolen election, racism, disenfranchised etc… and the result will be worse than Ferguson.

When Hillary wins, the right will do what they always do: mumble under their breathe about how liberalism has destroyed America, and then go back to work and continue aiding in its further destruction.

Posted by: kctim at October 26, 2016 9:58 AM
Comment #409086
When Hillary wins, the right will do what they always do: mumble under their breathe about how liberalism has destroyed America, and then go back to work and continue aiding in its further destruction.

So let me get this straight kctim. liberalism is the culprit.. is that correct?

Lets review, in a nutshell, the last century shall we. Conservative ideology held sway in the early part of the last century , up until 1929 when it all came tumbling down. Conservatives were given the boot as FDR dealt with the depression and WWII. Then once again like a boil on the a** of humanity conservatism came back.Under the leadership of Goldwater in the late 50’s it grew until the conservative revolution led to Ron Reagan in the 80’s. Newt Gingrich continued the ideological changing of the guard until we got the Hoover of the new century, GWB. Of course it all came tumbling down once again as GWB was leaving office and… well here we are.

Conservatives want to go back to the best of times and in the modern era that would be the exact times when their ideology was out of favor, the 30’s trough the 70’s. Because their ideology as practiced caused economic depressions and has left the country in debt. So why would you think it is liberalism that is the problem? “>Here is FDR on what liberalism is, IMHO, so please tell me what is so wrong with it?


I would offer the reason we get such nonsensical candidates as Trump is the doubling down on conservatism as practiced.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 28, 2016 12:00 PM
Comment #409087

Yes J2, liberalism/progressivism is why the nation is in the sorry dependent and divided state it is today. As it is an ideology based on limited individual rights and the people being dependent on a large, strong, controlling centralized government, it runs in total opposition to our founding documents.
Under liberalism/progressivism, the desires of society trump the rights of the individual. Government is used to condition and control behavior.

As our country has aged, its people have become softer. For their own personal comfort and convenience, they willingly allowed their individual rights to be infringed upon. Rather than struggle through hard times, Americans embraced oppressive taxation, the loss of choice, property and free will.
In order to pander to more government dependent voters, the politicians moved their platforms further to the left in order to accommodate them. This is why yesterdays far-left liberals/progressives are now considered democrats. Why yesterdays democrats are now called Republicans. And it is why those who respect and quote the Constitution are now called ‘extremists.’

“So why would you think it is liberalism that is the problem?”

Because it simply cannot coexist with our Constitution.

Posted by: kctim at October 28, 2016 1:06 PM
Comment #409088

Well kctim, your explanation sure addresses why we have repubs putting up the likes of Trump and other nonsensical leaders. According to you the constitution says “I the person” not “we the people”. Of course we know that to not be the case. Of course conservatives are making this extremist version of conservative ideology more and more the case as they continue to dumb down the people of this country. Your interpretation of the constitution has led to monopolies, to the divine right of kings not to liberty and justice for all.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 28, 2016 1:31 PM
Comment #409089

Ah, the ole ‘We the People’ equals society first argument, LOL!

Of course, you can point exactly to our founding and show where it states that the non-governmental desires of society trump the rights of the individual, right?

You can save the ‘monopolies’ propaganda and ‘divine right of kings’ BS, J2. Our individual rights, liberty, freedom, justice etc… have absolutely nothing to do with money.

Of course, you do get points for equating the Constitution to extremists and proving my point. Thank you.

Posted by: kctim at October 28, 2016 1:55 PM
Comment #409091

Thanks for your response to j2t2 kctim.

According to j2’s reading of the Constitution, there are no individual rights, merely group rights. And, that is exactly the direction that my Leftie Pals want to lead the nation.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 28, 2016 2:41 PM
Comment #409094

Keeping up with news, Royal?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-clinton-emails-prompt-further-172841055.html

This is getting interesting.

Posted by: kctim at October 28, 2016 2:56 PM
Comment #409095

News indeed kctim.

When I first heard this news breaking on Fox News I was riding my stationary bike and nearly fell off.

Frankly Tim, I am astonished that Comey and the FBI would take such steps this close to the election. If they don’t have something BIG, that is released very quickly, it will be seen as electioneering and condemned by the Left.

At this very moment it appears this news will help Trump. But, one never knows about things like this. Devious people employ devious means.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 28, 2016 3:20 PM
Comment #409096

Director Comey was wildly out of line. Here is his statement:

“In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.”

According to multiple sources, the e-mails are from Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Wiener. Yes, that Anthony Wiener. According to Newsweek, there are three e-mails, and no, these do not involve Hillary Clinton and no, they did not come from her server. Which begs the question: How do these sources- NYT, NBC, Newsweek, and more- know?

In a perfect display of why Trump should never be president, he immediately shot his mouth off. He called HRC ‘corrupt’ and her server ‘illegal.’ He used the word “criminal.” The craven fascist crowds chanted “lock her up.”

“Hillary Clinton’s corruption is on a scale we have never seen before. We must not let her take her criminal scheme into the Oval Office.”

It is simply incredible- and horrifying- that this man is the Republican nominee for president.

Comey had no business making this statement without providing further transparency. He threw a grenade into the election campaign by making such a vague statement. Hopefully he will respond to calls for clarification.

Posted by: phx8 at October 28, 2016 4:18 PM
Comment #409097

If she can’t cheat, she isn’t going to win. I see a possible repeat of 1980 in the making. All you need to do is see the numbers at his events, his social media following. The most reliable polls show them even or him slightly ahead. In my own area the Hillary signs are virtually nonexistent, and the Trump Pence signs are everywhere. This is a big contrast to 2012 when there were Obama signs everywhere. People are more fired up about Trump than I can remember seeing them fired up about a candidate. Contrast that with her abysmal numbers at her events, and the fact that she is hated. people are pissed, and sick of these corrupt democrats, and these corrupt federal Obama run agencies. Nothing is for sure, but everything points to her crashing and burning. Attorney General Trey Gowdy, that has a nice ring to it. Unless you’re Hillary that is. LMFAO !

Posted by: dbs at October 28, 2016 4:30 PM
Comment #409098

As expected, phx8 wrote; “Director Comey was wildly out of line.”

Before we get into any heated debate I would remind my Liberal Pals that Comey was being praised by the Left just a short time ago when he declined to ask the DOJ for an indictment.

I would rather not see any hyperbole by either side. Please don’t praise and trash the same official based only upon your “feelings”.

One slight correction dbs. In my opinion both parties are corrupt to some lessor or greater degree.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 28, 2016 4:47 PM
Comment #409100

Royal Flush

“In my opinion both parties are corrupt to some lessor or greater degree.”

And I certainly agree. Let’s drain the swamp ! You have to wonder why Comey has decided to re open the investigation. Is it the fact that absolutely no one with two brain cells to rub together doesn’t realize what has happened. Could he be butt hurt because of the bashing he’s received from the public, or could this be a play by Odumbo to protect the Clinton cash machine should she lose ? Remember, he cant pardon her if she hasn’t been convicted, or at least indicted. Trey Gowdy would almost certainly re open the investigation, and there would be no one to catch her. I’m giggling like a school girl just thinking about it. ha ha ha ha

Posted by: dbs at October 28, 2016 5:07 PM
Comment #409122
According to j2’s reading of the Constitution, there are no individual rights, merely group rights. And, that is exactly the direction that my Leftie Pals want to lead the nation.

Royal such a foolish false dilemma argument. The Constitution does have both individual and group rights. We the people being the group. The bill of rights are individual rights of course, giving all of us the same rights.

Of course, you can point exactly to our founding and show where it states that the non-governmental desires of society trump the rights of the individual, right?

Of course not kctim, the Constitution is more than a list of rights it lays out a framework of governing as well.

You can save the ‘monopolies’ propaganda and ‘divine right of kings’ BS, J2. Our individual rights, liberty, freedom, justice etc… have absolutely nothing to do with money.

But isn’t taxes money? You are confusing me kctim. Freedom from want, freedom to produce an income, all important rights ensuring a prosperous society for all of us.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 29, 2016 10:31 AM
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