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Is Ecuador Interfering In The US Election?

Word is that Ecuador pulled the Internet from Assange.

After housing Jullian, to include Internet access for a couple of years now, why do we believe Ecuador would want to pull the plug to his room at this point in time?

A. Is it because Ecuador believes THEY are interfering in the US election?

B. Is it because the Clinton/POTUS political machine threatened to cut Ecuadors funding?

C. Is it because the Clinton/POTUS political machine offered to increase Ecuadors Funding?

Can only hope Assange has a Plan ‘B’ otherwise, there may be no Oct Surprise(s).

Posted by Roy Ellis at October 18, 2016 8:43 PM
Comments
Comment #408817

Maybe the Ecuadorians are tired of seeing their embassy used as a platform for launching Russian propaganda attacks against America, you traitorous piece of shit.

Posted by: phx8 at October 18, 2016 10:32 PM
Comment #408825

Gee Roy, it looks like Phx8 disagrees with you and Hillary.

“I’m sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we’re Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

― Hillary Rodham Clinton

LOL

Posted by: kctim at October 19, 2016 10:09 AM
Comment #408826

Who has definitive evidence Russia is hacking Podesta’s email account?

It would be a shame if we commit an act of war against Russia because the Democratic party got embarrassed by one of their own.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 19, 2016 10:27 AM
Comment #408827

WW,
A Newsweek writer recognized an distinctly edited version of his article about Benghazi!!! go from a Russian site, to Wikileaks, and then appear in Trump’s hand within hours.

And then there is the federal government and private sources. But of course, if you are too steeped in conspiracy theory to accept the conclusions of the federal government and private enterprise, then nothing will ever convince you.

And by the way, I would also like to know who is posting under the name ‘Roy Ellis.’ The original Roy Ellis used to be concerned about corporatism. The current one rarely mentions it. One would think Trump would be the original Roy Ellis’s nemesis because Trump wants to repeal Dodd-Frank, put judges on SCOTUS who will NOT repeal Citizens United, and most telling of all, Trump wants to cut corporate taxes. No one who opposes corporatism would ever accept Trump, no way. The new Roy Ellis cares nothing about corporatism, accepts Trump’s misogyny, bigotry, racism, and xenophobia without comment, and routinely cheers for a foreign adversary to influence the US election.

Posted by: phx8 at October 19, 2016 10:43 AM
Comment #408828

Roy Ellis never capitalized his moniker the way it is now. I’d have to say phx8’s conspiracy theory could be a major distraction here on WatchBlog!

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 19, 2016 11:05 AM
Comment #408832

kctim,

Is Roy’s post merely debating the administration over a disagreement or is it actively supporting one of our adversaries? Hillary Clinton said what she said in support of those who opposed the Iraq War; she never meant it would be applied to those who would join Saddam Hussein and fight against the US.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 19, 2016 1:26 PM
Comment #408833

Thank you for that, ph. I’ve been trying for years now to get people to understand I am against gov’t as it now operates. The fact you’ve figured it out means I must be doing something right. Thank you.

The wiki emails serve to validate my reasoning.

Please do some research and realize that Trump IS against corpocracy. He plans to renegotiate NAFTA or kill it. He plans to secure the borders. These are the very heart of corpocracy. Ah Cmon, I think you already knew that, and so on - - -

Should Hillary win I will dust off my new 3rd party w/a/dif/pol/att and run it up the flagpole one more time.

One would think Trump could garner 20% of the GOP and 15% of the DEM vote to win the popular vote in 2020. There must be that many patriots who are dead set against a person who would compromise national security in a big way for their own personal gain.

But, back to the thread. What do you think happened with Assange? A, B, or C, and so on - - -


LEROY The Traitor

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 19, 2016 1:33 PM
Comment #408834

Warren, if an adversary tells you your ally is trying to overthrow the system and gives you evidence supporting that would you not check it out?

So far, the evidence shows us of an attempted overthrow so maybe the ally is, for whatever reason, being truthful.

Hillary probably doesn’t lie 100% of the time so maybe the Soviets don’t either. Can you accept that?

LEROY The Traitor

Posted by: roy ellis at October 19, 2016 1:43 PM
Comment #408836
your ally is trying to overthrow the system and gives you evidence supporting that

This isn’t the situation we are in. The “evidence” that my ally is trying to overthrow the system is as convincing as the forged “evidence” that condemned Alfred Dreyfus 120 years ago.

Hillary probably doesn’t lie 100% of the time so maybe the Soviets don’t either. Can you accept that?

I’ve never met a Soviet in my entire life, please stop referring to the Russians as such. If Russia tells me A and Hillary tells me not A, for sure I am going to take the word of my fellow American over that of an adversarial nation.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 19, 2016 2:21 PM
Comment #408838

Warren, you heard it here. Russia died when Putin was elected ‘great leader’.

If POTUS can lay low for a few more months he will consider it a win against the Soviet’s, IMO.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 19, 2016 2:37 PM
Comment #408839

“I will not discuss any issue that has become public solely on the basis of Wikileaks,” said Rubio, who sits on the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee. “As our intelligence agencies have said, these leaks are an effort by a foreign government to interfere with our electoral process and I will not indulge it.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/marco-rubio-stay-silent-wikileaks-229977

We have already been informed by multiple government sources (as well as private ones) that the Russians are behind the Wikileaks cyber attacks. There are very few players capable of the hack in the first place. Russia has the means, and Russia has the motive, namely, weakening US and western alliances such as NATO and the EU through the election of Trump, and freeing Russia from a unified front of sanctions. Note the attacks are only against Democrats, NOT Republicans. Russia also has a history of doing this in Western Europe, where they have aided white nationalist parties for the same reasons.

In addition, Trump was briefed about this during his intelligence briefings. He pretends not to know, and that is a flat out lie. He knows.

Finally, a person would have to be a complete fool to accept the Wikileaks material as reliable. There is a tremendous incentive to plant material, and the later in the election, the better.

We saw this in the Brexit debacle. Elections in the UK take place in a very short time frame, a matter of weeks rather than the seemingly endless American election cycle. The disadvantage for the UK is that disinformation can have a lopsided effect. The previous PM, Cameron, accused the Russians of interference, but of course, it is too late now.

Posted by: phx8 at October 19, 2016 2:53 PM
Comment #408841

That’s fine, ph. I think the leaks were supposed to dribble out well into the Fall. Now, with A or B or C interfering, we may not see anymore.

Of course Trump knows, has been briefed. Hillary could make that point anytime she chooses. So, if Trump lies 1% Hillary lies 99%. Where does that get you. She is a known liar, her underlings, thru the leaks have made that clear over and over.

I think there is enough stuff that has come out from gov’t records sufficient to sink Hillary. So, she really needs to becomes president to save herself.

I don’t know that I’ve heard any dem officials deny the validity of leaked emails. Some are taking a wait and see approach, as you are.

Leroy The Traitor

Posted by: roy ellis at October 19, 2016 3:40 PM
Comment #408846

Warren,

Looks like Roy’s post is simply questioning what happened here, much the same way those who opposed the Iraq War questioned it.

In fact, the only difference between the two is that Roy is disagreeing, questioning and asking for debate about an administration that the left blindly supports.

Either way though, his post definitely does not deserve the “traitorous piece of sh*t” or “supporting one of our adversaries” comments.

Posted by: kctim at October 19, 2016 5:57 PM
Comment #408847

kctim,

If it was just this post in isolation, the you would be right. However, the totality of Roy’s participation here in the past few months reveals that he is a man who actively roots against America every chance he gets.

If a left wing antiwar activists openly rooted for another 9/11 terrorist attack a decade ago, Republicans would rightly brand that person a traitor. Why is it any different today?

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 19, 2016 7:10 PM
Comment #408848

Right, and I also choose to believe the VERITAS video. Just like the hot mike on Donald, this video recording leaves NO doubt that it’s valid. I can’t believe anyone in this country is surprised by it. I’ve known the dems send out goon squads since the days (60’s) of what’s his face in Chicago. This is something that is inbred in dems. They seem to be willing to do anything, anything to win. Compromise national security, destroy evidence under supon ((kain’t speel it)), do a quid-pro-quo on the FBI, buy and sell gov’t like marketing muffins, to actors like Qatar and similar, and so on - - -

Recall Blago tried to sell a senate seat for what, $30 k or something? Now ambassadorships and political appointee posits are going for $2-5M. Blago just happened to get caught.

I’m ok with rooting for America. But I sure as hell ain’t ok rooting for the corpocracy including the two party political machine running gov’t at this time.

And, I kinda like the moniker …

Leroy The Traitor

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 19, 2016 7:52 PM
Comment #408850

Roy,

You seem to be suffering from projection, taking aspects of the your allies and pinning them on your political opponent. The Right are the ones throwing America under the bus for the sake of an election with their embrace of Russian psyops propaganda.

the VERITAS video
O’Keefe heavily edited those videos to pitch his agenda. The video of Trump with Billy Bush is raw, unedited footage.
I can’t believe anyone in this country is surprised by it. I’ve known the dems send out goon squads since the days (60’s) of what’s his face in Chicago. This is something that is inbred in dems.

Yes, Chicago has a corrupt political machine. Voting for Donald Trump is going to do nothing to change that.

Blago tried to sell a senate seat for what, $30 k or something? Now ambassadorships and political appointee posits are going for $2-5M. Blago just happened to get caught.

I don’t know what you are referring to specifically, but all 43 men who have served as President have made some political appointments on behalf of personal friends and fundraisers. Voting for Donald Trump isn’t going to change that. I am not going to seriously entertain an unsubstantiated claim that outright bribery over these decisions extends beyond Blagojevich.

Compromise national security, destroy evidence under supon ((kain’t speel it)), do a quid-pro-quo on the FBI,

The problem is that these allegations simply aren’t true. While it was a disastrous mistake for Clinton to maintain the server in Chappaqua, it did not break any laws. While there was haranguing between State and FBI, neither quid nor quo was ever exchanged. It’s just a tale of two bureaucrats seeking favors from one another and being rebuffed. Likewise, Clinton ordered those emails to be deleted months before any subpoena was issued and because they were of a personal nature, they weren’t covered by the subpoena anyway.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 19, 2016 8:42 PM
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