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Trump Beats the Crap Out Of Hillary !!!

Yup, saw it all happen while CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s head was near exploding.

Just too,too, good.

Hillary spent the evening defending her policies. Trump took it to her on every issue, every issue.

He made her out to be the liar she is, time and time again.

And, he hasn't even gone to his big bang, the Clinton Foundation, compromising national security re the Soviets and her emails. I mean he did it biggly tonight.

Posted by Roy Ellis at October 9, 2016 10:18 PM
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Comment #408410

Now watch them poll numbers take off - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 9, 2016 10:35 PM
Comment #408411
Trump Beats the Crap Out Of Hillary !!!
You should have watched the debate in English instead of waiting for the translation into Russian. Drumpf acted like a little brat, lied over and over again, rambled on and on about nonsense, and barely managed to keep standing, while sniffing for truffles like a pig again. Posted by: oraoghaile at October 9, 2016 10:44 PM
Comment #408412

Does anyone know why Trump sniffles during debates but doesn’t sniffle at any other presentations?

Posted by: roy ellis at October 9, 2016 10:55 PM
Comment #408413

Hillary is the next U S President and no debate for one night is going to change that

Posted by: Modearer Henry at October 9, 2016 10:57 PM
Comment #408415

Mo H, good luk with that. Some 100M people know, got it verified in their brain that Hillary is a liar and little more.

Trump says he will convene an investigation of Hil’s emails if he becomes President. That should get a ton of votes from the undecided.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 9, 2016 11:13 PM
Comment #408417

Trump said Hil and Obama blinked on the Syrian red line. Hil said she wasn’t around at that time. Liar. The red line was set in August and Hil didn’t leave the DOS for another six months or so.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 9, 2016 11:21 PM
Comment #408418
Hillary is the next U S President and no debate for one night is going to change that Posted by: Modearer Henry at October 9, 2016 10:57 PM

HRC45 is running for POTUS and reaching out to the country, Drumpf is still trying to solidify his win in the GOP primary. He can’t get anywhere near the presidency with a strategy like that. He’ll be lucky if he gets 40% of the vote. People say more 37% is more likely now.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 9, 2016 11:25 PM
Comment #408419

Roy Trump held his own…sorta… but other than the bullying threat to put her in jail if he is elected I didn’t see any “beat the crap out of” moments. Even then exposing his fascist authoritarian streak with this threat wasn’t a “beat the crap out of her” moment IMHO. Seems to me Trump showed his “wounded animal”, as Weary says, tonight.

I would call that appeasing the base but as far as actually winning votes it fell on it’d face IMHO. SO Perhaps if it is insults and such that is used as “beating the crap out of her” judgements then I’ll give it to you. But if winning votes is the “beat the crap out of her” judgement then Trump is still the loser IMHO.

Does throwing Pence under the bus count as beating the crap out of a women? After the debate last week it looked to me like he had his mouth running before he engaged his brain as he tried to sound intelligent on foreign policy… hardly a “beat the crap out of her” moment.


It’s clear why many conservatives like Trump…and his “locker room talk”… when you put it like that. How about the double standard he uses? As a businessman he takes advantage of the tax code, but Hillary as a lawyer defends a rapist is wrong? From a man with many lawyers always suing people!!! What a man.. he “beat the crap out of her”.

Seems to me Clinton pulled her punches a bit tonight. Perhaps with so many Repubs running away from their candidate, asking him to pull out of the races and such, she didn’t want a “wounded animal” as election days draws near.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 9, 2016 11:28 PM
Comment #408420

HRC’s strategy seemed to be to let Drumpf bury himself again, but the moderators stopped a lot of that. Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz did a great job telling him to shut up, so he whined about them ganging up on him, like an entitled brat.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 9, 2016 11:46 PM
Comment #408421

Sorry damned FBI that says Hillary had compromised national security by using private servers, then refused to prosecute her, then gave amnesty to all the players and closed the case.

Attny Gen met with Bill on a plane on an airstrip for an hour before Hillary had her ‘hearing’. Sorry assed admin.

And, POTUS lied about knowing about Hillary’s private server. Had a pseudo name to communicate with her and the clinton foundation over her private server and so on -0 - -

Tell one lie, you gotta keep lying and the dems have shown their stuff throughout this election,

Posted by: roy ellis at October 9, 2016 11:47 PM
Comment #408422

Because CNN asked if Trump did better than we expected, worse than or what we expected and the results were 61% better than expectation it sems to me the poll was accurate. I think Trump did much better than the last time.

However according to the CNN poll Clinton won the debate by a large margin, 57%/34%. Ohio undecideds called it a draw. Just not seeing the ” beat the crap out of her” thing Roy. Perhaps “beat the crap out of her” means didn’t lose in a big way this time out.

But hey lets give him credit he did better than the last debate.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 9, 2016 11:48 PM
Comment #408423

Yeah, let’s do that J2, and let’s not put too much credence in CNN polls. Those folks were near heart attacks tonight. I loved it.

Like, comments about Trump going to investigate Hillary. This and every time Trump says something about enforcement they throw the ‘he’s a Nazi, he’s a Putin’, and so on - - -

Just sorry assed MSM …

Posted by: roy ellis at October 9, 2016 11:57 PM
Comment #408425

Access Hollywood did an explanatory video about the audio in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=—6QO-Ewml0

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 10, 2016 12:39 AM
Comment #408427
Yeah, let’s do that J2, and let’s not put too much credence in CNN polls. Those folks were near heart attacks tonight. I loved it.

Roy I’m not sure what you watched but the presidential debate tonight was at best a draw, at best. If civility and character/truthfulness are worth anything to conservatives then Trump stumbled, just not as much as the last time,over his lack of civility and truthfulness.

I didn’t see anything close to heart attacks so it seems this is wishful thinking on your part. Seems to me you are more worked up than those of CNN.

Blaming the MSM, what a crock. Wounded animal politics Roy. Trump didn’t win over any voters seems he and you with the MSM thing are more whiners than winners.

Same with the “This and every time Trump says something about enforcement they throw the ‘he’s a Nazi, he’s a Putin’, and so on - - -” line Roy, especially from those that claim Obama has overstepped his bounds as president. Threatening you political opponent with jail if you are elected isn’t about enforcement it is about authoritarian fascism. Dictators do that.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 10, 2016 12:42 AM
Comment #408430

When national security is breached it’s up to the FBI, J2.

The only justice we’ve gotten over that is that the Soviets are publishing her emails which verify just how she compromised classified information and so on - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 10, 2016 9:23 AM
Comment #408431

Be careful, j2t2. There were 3 ladies in front of the cameras that described how a real animal acts, and how an animal on defense acts also.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 10, 2016 9:37 AM
Comment #408432

Comey didn’t get up in front of the cameras and say there was no crime. He didn’t say there was no illegal activity.

He got up and said no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case to court. The translation would be anyone attempting to hold Hillbilly accountable will get what they deserve.

No, Comey got up in front of the camera and said Hillbilly was extremely careless with national security documents. Hillbilly repeatedly said she made a mistake. Either one of those facts by itself would have immediately sunk a Republican candidate’s chances at the oval office.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 10, 2016 9:42 AM
Comment #408436

What a strange thread. Polls say Hillary Clinton won. Trump was incoherent. He tried to dismiss his talk about how he could sexually do anything he wanted to a woman because he was a star by claiming it was locker room talk, then rambling about ISIS for a minute. It was truly strange, especially considering how he knew he would be asked the question, and surely had time to prepare.

According to fact checkers, Trump lied over 30 times, including this:

Moderator quoting Trump: “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything… Grab them by the p****. You can do anything.”

Trump: “No I didn’t say that at all.”

In fact, that is exactly what Trump said. Trump continued:

“I don’t think you understood what was said. This was locker room talk. I’m not proud of it. I apologized to my family. I apologized to the American people. Certainly I’m not proud of it, but this is locker room talk. You know when we have a world where you have ISIS chopping off heads, where you have men frankly drowning people in steel cages, where you have wars and horrible, horrible sites all over where you have so many bad things happening, this is like medieval times, we haven’t seen anything like this — the carnage all over the world — and they look and they see. Can you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well against us with ISIS and they look at our country and they see what’s going on. Yes, I’m very embarrassed by it. I hate it. But it’s locker room talk and it’s one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS, we’re going to defeat ISIS. ISIS happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment and I will tell you I will take care of ISIS.”

This was followed by some back and forth. It is hard to overstate just how bizarre Trump was at the debate. He sniffed, wandered about the stage, and did not engage the audience. He gave similar rambling, incoherent answer about Syria. He flatly contradicted his VP about Syrian policy, saying he did not talk to Pence.

He threatened to appoint a special prosecutor for HRC and jail her, and concluded by saying she had “hate in her heart.” This is unprecedented in American politics. Trump degrades our political process.

Perhaps the strangest thing of all is that anyone- anyone- would think Trump did well.

Posted by: phx8 at October 10, 2016 11:26 AM
Comment #408438
He got up and said no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case to court. The translation would be anyone attempting to hold Hillbilly accountable will get what they deserve.

That isn’t a reasonable interpretation at all Roy. Unless you believe the FBI cowers in fear of the Clintons, even then it is an interpretation based upon delusion and deception. A more reasonable interpretation would be they didn’t have enough evidence a crime had been committed.

It seems the closer we come to election day the more conservatives become delusional. You guys really need to get a grip on reality Roy before you stroke out. You guys have been deceived by movement leaders for so long you actually believe this crap!!

Deception and delusion equals Hillary derangement syndrome it seems. Just like ODS. You guys have had to much of the kool aid over the years. Ya know I wonder, many people give Trump credit for creating many jobs over the past 30 years but I would suggest Clinton is no slouch in that area. If you look at all the conservative movement types who have earned a living over the years making up and writing about the different Clinton faux scandals I would think she gives Trump a run for the money when it comes to job creation. How long do you guys continue to fall for it?

Either one of those facts by itself would have immediately sunk a Republican candidate’s chances at the oval office.

Maybe back in the days of Ike, back when they brought a bit of integrity to the table that would have been true. But not since Reagan and the most corrupt administration in modern history. You guys have lowered the bar to the point you selected Trump as the best the party had to offer, and you were right, so I would think anything goes with you guys because the ends justify the means in conservative ideology. Hows much of an uproar was there from conservatives when the repub SOS did the same thing? Yeah… what uproar.

But lets continue with this for just a bit longer. When was the last time a candidate for the office of president threatened to jail his political opponent, in this country not some banana republic. Where was your outrage…. you still plan to vote for this guy. Nope repubs gave up their integrity a long time ago.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 10, 2016 11:40 AM
Comment #408439

The title of the article tells you all you need to know about the attitude of the author towards women, and why he supports Drumpf the truffle pig.

Has Drumpf made any movement on putting his assets into a blind trust? Does he even know what a blind trust is yet? He doubled down on not releasing his taxes with the same BS as before, only hinting at something else that he doesn’t understand because accountants and lawyers do his taxes. Why? Because he knows he’s not going to be elected. The GOP has decided that he’s damaging their entire party. After election day, I expect Drumpf to come forward and say that his entire run was just a ruse to get HRC45 elected. That he is solely responsible for getting her elected. The GOP can kiss his arse. He has played them, and destroyed their party. Then he’ll try to run for mayor of New York City.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 10, 2016 11:41 AM
Comment #408441
What a strange thread…It is hard to overstate just how bizarre Trump was at the debate. He sniffed, wandered about the stage, and did not engage the audience….He threatened to appoint a special prosecutor for HRC and jail her, and concluded by saying she had “hate in her heart.” This is unprecedented in American politics. Trump degrades our political process. Perhaps the strangest thing of all is that anyone- anyone- would think Trump did well. Posted by: phx8 at October 10, 2016 11:26 AM

Drumpf is always talking about himself and projecting it onto others. He says she has hate in his heart because he has hate in his heart. When he said that he likes that HRC45 is not a quitter, he’s talking about himself again.

You guys really need to get a grip on reality Roy before you stroke out. Posted by: j2t2 at October 10, 2016 11:40 AM

That may be happening already. I wasn’t kidding when I wrote that he should get to a doctor immediately the other day.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 10, 2016 11:56 AM
Comment #408453

Aahhh pppssshhaaaw! Some more wikileaks emails just hit the street. Gotta go.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 10, 2016 2:45 PM
Comment #408454

Fact checkers on the debate:
# of lies
Toronto Star: Trump 33 Clinton 5
NYT 20 2
Politico 13 2

Roy
“Trump says he will convene an investigation of Hil’s emails if he becomes President. That should get a ton of votes from the undecided.”

No. It will not get votes. And no, Trump will not convene an investigation. What the hell is wrong with you? This is not Pakistan. We do not live in a dictatorship. Presidents do not instruct their Attorney Generals to prosecute individuals. That is NOT how our system of justice works.

Posted by: phx8 at October 10, 2016 3:03 PM
Comment #408455

What a quandary for me. Watch football or debate number two.

Football won as did my two favorite teams…Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers.

In politics we have been treated to a rare spectacle.

On the Republican side we have a non-politician, very successful business man with a penchant for running his mouth before engaging his brain, attracting those who believe the political elite need to have their power reduced along with government debt and spending. The white rich guy beat out over fifteen seasoned politicians to take the nomination. Most of those defeated threw hissy-fits and refused to support the nominee as they feared their power would be reduced or eliminated if the unsavory guy won. The party elite believe their survival is paramount and comes before the nations needs.

On the Democrat side we have a former presidential bed partner who as first lady had the presidents ear and voice. Her ideas on reforming health care were severely trounced and candidates she put forward for appointment by the president went nowhere. She parlayed her ability to demean and defile the women harmed by hubby Bill into a not guilty charge of impeachment and enabled him to continue his s*xual predation. A mediocre stint as Senator and less than stellar stint as Secretary of State followed. She lost a bid for the presidency to a man elected primarily due to race. This time she beat an aged socialist independent party senator.

It there something to learn from this debacle?

The seasoned politician vowing to spend or borrow huge sums of public money, and who promises to keep the politics of fraud and corruption intact, will likely win the office of president. This president will be hounded from the first day in office by all the baggage her handlers have so far controlled, with money or threats, to win. Endless new and serious revelations will surface to embarrass and harass this president.

Half of the American electorate will be highly angry at the status quo and the other half will be demanding benefits that will further erode the nations fiscal order. There are many qualified Republicans set to run for high office again. The Democrats face a nearly empty barrel of up-and-comers.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 10, 2016 3:12 PM
Comment #408460

If Hillary wins and is able to impose amnesty, open borders and stack the supreme court it will be impossible for an opposing political organization to turn that around.

Out of the 16 or so GOP primary candidates Trump is the only one who has a chance to win the presidency.


Posted by: roy ellis at October 10, 2016 6:04 PM
Comment #408461

Roy, when a people allow their government to corrupt them with benefits at the expense of freedom, to define morality in terms that herald man as God, and debase the very foundation that ensured their liberty…

that people will fall and become prey to the tyrants and dictators of the world.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 10, 2016 6:25 PM
Comment #408464
Out of the 16 or so GOP primary candidates Trump is the only one who has a chance to win the presidency.

Really? You are ignoring the mountain of polling evidence showing how John Kasich, Marco Rubio and others doing much better versus HRC.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 10, 2016 8:37 PM
Comment #408468

Yeah Royal, the GOP corpocracy worked for 20 years trying to divest themselves of religious and social issues.

They are all about money and the least path of resistance to get to it.

Should Trump fail this time maybe in 4 we can get behind him or a similar outsider and gin up a 3rd party.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 10, 2016 8:58 PM
Comment #408473

A video of last night’s debate will live on in perpetuity. I suspect Hannity will run that tape every Saturday night for years to come. I mean Trump just beat the crap out her.

So, so looking to the next debate.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 10, 2016 10:34 PM
Comment #408474

Sorry assed GOP. Sorry assed Paul Ryan. I’m going to make sure I’m out here for some number of years. Ain’t goin to ferget it …

Posted by: roy ellis at October 10, 2016 10:43 PM
Comment #408489

GARBAGE! This entire article should be removed from this site.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 11, 2016 11:44 AM
Comment #408493

Yeah, but my favorite part is where Roy runs off to check the Wikileaks material. This time we know beyond question that it comes from the Russians, and we know they are inserting false e-mails into the material, such as the one about Blumenthal and Benghazi. We also know Trump put it out there in short order- Russian propaganda intended to affect the outcome of our election.

Hey, Roy, how’s that working out for ya’?

Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2016 2:55 PM
Comment #408494
Hey, Roy, how’s that working out for ya’? Posted by: phx8 at October 11, 2016 2:55 PM

This article and the responses under the name of the author are a complete fraud. There is no way this was written by the same “Roy Ellis” who previously wrote here. People who are able to express themselves intelligently don’t all of a sudden turn into idiots who only post garbage.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 11, 2016 4:26 PM
Comment #408501

What’s your excuse?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 11, 2016 5:49 PM
Comment #408518

Oraog, stuff is coming so fast, I can’t type fast enough to keep up. Pardon my grammar until after the election.

It would be really helpful if someone or some organization would assimilate all the emails and put them out in reports that can be copied and pasted. 39k emails and we’ve only seen a tenth of them at this point.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 12, 2016 1:07 AM
Comment #408635

The wheels are coming of the Crooked Hilary’s campaign, and our friends here on the left are losing their minds. What a show this is. But but but she won the 2nd debate. Not by any polls I’ve seen. Trump wiped the floor with her. The turnout for his events are UUUUUUGE ! Meanwhile she can hardly fill all the tables at the local pub. Rasmussen has Trump up by 2. He’s trouncing her on social media. This could be a bad year for Cruella Deville, and Bubba. But we’ll just have to wait and see. Lol

Posted by: dbs at October 13, 2016 4:22 PM
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