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Helping America's Lost Find Their Way Back Home

What do you tell a 7 year old who asks if you will sign her homework? What do you do when you’re a police officer in McKeesport, Pennsylvania and this young girl is asking you to sign her homework for school the next day? When her parents have been dead for more than 24 hours from what was surely an opioid OD? When she tried to wake them on Sunday. Both parents. Both dead or comatose at that point. When she dressed on Monday and took the school bus, ashamed and scared to tell anyone? Until she finally told the bus driver who entered the home, and started the grim process of dealing with another OD tragedy. The 7 year old with even younger siblings, under the roof of their family home. About to be taken into the state’s custody.

What will we say in 10 or 20 years about this suddenly all-too-real crisis of addiction, of withdrawal from productive lives by millions of able-bodied males? Of dysfunctional families with the children taken up - or torn away - by the state. Or of substance-abusing women in Oklahoma, finally rebuilding their lives through a rehab-not-jail program called Women in Recovery. And finally seeing their daughters again after years of estrangement.

In Oklahoma, the tough drug laws are a result of the crack cocaine epidemic of the late 80's and early 90's. Women are being incarcerated at a dizzyingly accelerating rate. But prosecutors believe you need the threat and/or reality of jail to shock people into going straight. The evidence is mixed, however. And the evidence must be considered. Is jail primarily a moral response to those who break civil society's laws? Or is it also a government program which should be evaluated on a cost-benefit basis like any other government program? And kept as contained as possible, especially when it does not seem to be working.

What laws will be enacted to deal with this overwhelming plague of opioid addiction? And what unintended consequences will they have? From heroin flowing into the country, across the southern border and from elsewhere, it is a trade and national security issue as well. How do you keep commerce flowing between NAFTA's partners and somehow assure your citizens that the borders are completely safe and that most drugs are being intercepted?

You can't. Not completely. You can only make trade-offs. And hope to improve the balance of pain and gain, implicit in any trade-off. Let's hope any legislative solutions are conservative: well thought-out, skeptical of the consequences of government intervention, cognizant of individual responsibility, but charitable and flexible in giving those who are lost a way to come back home. Millions need that path back home. Let's pray that America - the nation not its government - can help its lost to find their own way back to their daughters and sons. And to their homes.

Posted by AllardK at October 7, 2016 1:07 PM
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Comment #408259
What will we say in 10 or 20 years about this suddenly all-too-real crisis of addiction, of withdrawal from productive lives by millions of able-bodied males

I hate to be cynical, but I know exactly what the free market will say:
Let’s build more robots and import more cheap labor from other nations.

I may be wrong, but think automation is putting society on track towards a post scarcity economy. For those of us luckiest to have jobs programming the robots or blessed with irreplicable talents, life will be good. For everyone else, life will be very difficult. If elites cannot engage the rest of the populace, it is quite possible we get a permanent underclass riddled with addiction and dysfunction.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 7, 2016 2:06 PM
Comment #408261

Stop expecting males to be pussies and we might be able to return to a functional society.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 7, 2016 2:27 PM
Comment #408265

I too hate to be cynical Porter, but we have a Liberal philosophy in our national government that encourages government dependence.

No capable citizen is being asked to perform work for benefits received.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 7, 2016 4:20 PM
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Frankly, I find it shocking; and unsupportable by any reasoning, to witness so many capable working-age men in the United States so comfortable with their lives that they do not care to work.

The New Non-Working Class

“One out of 6 prime-working-age adult males in the United States is not temporarily unemployed, or “between jobs,” or “looking for work.” No, a huge cohort of men in America is now neither employed nor looking for work. They are just skating by on a combination of girlfriends, wives, mothers and government benefits. Their status, argues Nicholas Eberstadt in “Men Without Work,” is a “quiet catastrophe.”

“Only 15 percent of non-working men cite inability to find work as the reason for their idleness.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/10/06/the_new_non-working_class_131990.html

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 7, 2016 5:17 PM
Comment #408269

Very well said and undeniable.

“Look around. Americans bust their tails, some working two or three jobs, but wages stay flat. Meanwhile, the basic costs of making it from month to month keep going up. Housing, healthcare, child care – costs are out of sight. Young people are getting crushed by student loans. Working people are in debt. Seniors can’t stretch a social security check to cover the basics.”

The quote is by Elizabeth Warren and she called it a “rigged system”.

Yes, it is rigged and has been in the hands of Obama for nearly eight years. My Leftie Pals believe Obama is one of the greatest president in our nation’s history.

WHY?

Can Hillary succeed where Obama has failed?

HOW?


Posted by: Royal Flush at October 7, 2016 5:41 PM
Comment #408274

Right on, Royal. And, what about the hypocrisy of the MSM. They carry water for the admin/corpocracy while at the same time rant about the lower class having a hard time, need more assistance. Disgraceful. Nothing much about the lack of jobs, job seekers, drugs and gangs rolling into this country every day.

Was reading one of Hillary’s emails to wall street where she relates her dream is to live in a completely globalised society with open borders and so on - - -

Good for wall street, not so good for main street.

We need some leadership and fast. This country needs to make America great again. We need jobs for the working man.
We need businesses that make things. If people have opportunities available to them they will turn from dealing drugs to building families.

Otherwise, we will have to continue as a needy, grievance society. Or, we could put theworking class on a $45-50k yearly stipend to ensure survival.

Better to vote in Trump and have him fix it.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 7, 2016 10:02 PM
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Thank you Warren for your intelligent insight on this issue.

Stress, desperation and worry may well be a root cause of the heroin epidemic. Back in the 60’s the heroin problem was mostly young black kids from urban centers so who cared. It seems we are more worried to day because it has moved to an older whiter demographic.


Stop expecting males to be pussies and we might be able to return to a functional society.

Should we all arm wrestle or cage fight as we work from our computers or what Weary?

Yes, it is rigged and has been in the hands of Obama for nearly eight years. My Leftie Pals believe Obama is one of the greatest president in our nation’s history.

Royal it must be nice living in a world only 8 years old. It must be nice to think we have no Congress that passes laws to be signed by the president. Are you really foolish enough to believe the drivel you spew?

And, what about the hypocrisy of the MSM. They carry water for the admin/corpocracy while at the same time rant about the lower class having a hard time…

It isn’t the MSM anymore Roy. It may have been at one time but that was then, now we have a corporate media which includes the propagandist outlets such as Faux and Breitbart.

Better to vote in Trump and have him fix it.

This “hair of the dog that bit you” logic won’t work Roy, Trump hasn’t a clue. He still thinks a tax cut for the wealthy will solve the problem!!! How long do we have to buy into regressive taxation before conservatives wise up?

Posted by: j2t2 at October 8, 2016 11:41 AM
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j2t2,

Thanks. It seems like Royal Flush completely missed the boat on that one as I was talking about a possible post-scarcity future, which would be a very different world from the one we inhabit today.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 8, 2016 1:26 PM
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Debate is a day away. Man, Hillary is going to have some explaining to do. Like, why did she go after Bill’s cast off women so hard? Some of them were so distraught their
glands dried up, or so I’m told. She is going to have to man up re that.

And, how will Hillary’s ‘dream of globalism and open borders’ play in Peoria?

Posted by: roy ellis at October 8, 2016 2:49 PM
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And Kaine is a real piece of work. He’s real religious but he will roll over to do Hillary’s work re abortion, open borders, higher taxes and so on - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 8, 2016 4:24 PM
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-07/white-house-intervened-suppress-hillary-email-scandal-leaked-emails-revealax

POTUS has no problem lying for Hillary. Therefore, left to assume he would lie for his agenda.

So, who is the evangelicals supporting today; Kaine or Trump?

Posted by: roy ellis at October 8, 2016 4:55 PM
Comment #408350

Laura Ingram, FAUX news, noted that none of the Soviet released emails mention ‘Trump’. Scratching pic places over that.

Posted by: roy ellis at October 8, 2016 5:36 PM
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Roy…it is astonishing to realize that our president and sos are so weak that Russian has placed surface to air missiles in Syria. We failed today at the UN to help Aleppo as well.

We are becoming a laughing stock among the world powers.

Toothless, brainless, and spineless.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 8, 2016 6:33 PM
Comment #408367

Agree, Royal. Instead of a Soviet reset we should have cut them off before they ever got a naval facility established in that country. Just look how much a small nothing country like NK can cause when there is no leadership. It won’t be easy to put Putin back in his box but somebody has to work on it.

These last 4 years have just been beyond amazing at how ignorant folks can be. $5T dropped in afghan/iraq and we are way back behind square one. All the lives lost, pain and suffering - - -

Maybe God has tuned us out - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at October 8, 2016 8:20 PM
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