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Trump Can Put A Dent In Globalism

The idea was to develop the world by unleashing US corps on the world, give them access to cheap labor markets, Trade agreements were put in place that allowed workers to move freely around the world, similar to EU policies at the time.

So, the corporations went over along with the best paying jobs. And, workers flowed into the US from around the world. With few new jobs to be found it became a race to the bottom pitting immigrants against working class citizens.

When things got tight home loan agencies offered loans to immigrants and others who had no means to make loan payments, thus the recession/depression that we are still dealing with today.

Millions became unemployed or underemployed. As usual, the too big to fail corps and banks were bailed out. Drug cartels and immigrants poured across the southern border. Now wages are down and the country is inundated with drugs from around the world.

The Obama administration has followed the corpocracy playbook to the letter, seeking more trade deals and working to continue the flow of immigrants. Hillary will work to give citizenship to all who can get here.

I agree with Trump that eight years is long enough to tolerate such poor leadership. We need to put American first and find a way to create some jobs.

Notice that throughout the recession there has been no real effort to put people back to work on a large scale. When he bailed out the banks he could have initiated a work program rebuilding infrastructure and putting thousands on the payroll. Instead we have 1% owning 40% with inequality similar to the 1920's.

The idea is to bring the US economy more in line with the EU and developing countries. The corpocracy wants the cost of a hamburger in this country to cost the same around the world.

We spent several $T to bring peace to the Middle East. But, due to poor Obama policy, we are back to square one what with ISIS running loose in some 30 countries and many countries gutted, leaderless, or killing fields.

He pulled troops from Iraq allowing for a Suni-Shite split leading to ISIS. He drew a red line in the sand for Syria's gas bombing of civilians. Today, Syria is an ISIS stronghold. He opted to befriend the Soviets to make war now we have Syria and Russia dropping gas bombs on the few remaining rebel fighters and their families in Allepo.

Trump wants to back off on globalism, renegotiate trade agreements, stop the flow of illegal immigrants and get control of immigration. Further, he wants to provide more law enforcement, move out the drug cartels and step up the effort to root out ISIS sympathizers .

This has the corpocracy all out of sorts. Should Trump be elected President they will work to stop any effort he makes to push down globalism. But, just by holding the office of President, Trump can have a strong effect on their future success at globalism.

We can have 4 more years of Obama's policies or we can 'make America great again.


Posted by Roy Ellis at September 29, 2016 10:13 PM
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Comment #407875
Millions became unemployed or underemployed. As usual, the too big to fail corps and banks were bailed out. Drug cartels and immigrants poured across the southern border. Now wages are down and the country is inundated with drugs from around the world.

First of all Roy lets start with the revisionism, after all how do we solve problems if we cannot get the basic facts of the matter correct. To do so we have to get past the conservative myth you allow to continue as fact. Lets just say the world isn’t 7 years old and it isn’t all Obama’s fault.

Jobs have been leaving the country since the days of Reagan. Even before that illegal immigrants were coming into the country, why the lord and saviour of conservatives everywhere, Ron Reagan, granted amnesty to millions. Drugs believe it or not came across the border prior to Obama as well!

The Obama administration has followed the corpocracy playbook to the letter, seeking more trade deals and working to continue the flow of immigrants.

Trade isn’t a bad thing Roy, the problem with trade agreements has been the lack of concern over well paying jobs in this country and the environment.

Hillary will work to give citizenship to all who can get here.

And our do nothing Congress won’t do anything about immigration …cause… Obama. Time to get on the tea baggers and conservatives in Congress to do their jobs instead of using Obama as the excuse.

I agree with Trump that eight years is long enough to tolerate such poor leadership. We need to put American first and find a way to create some jobs.

So Trump says this yet he espouses the typical conservative jobs plan that has failed us the past 30 plus years, cut taxes on the rich. Yet all we have accomplished are laws that give tax breaks to those shipping jobs overseas, not Obama but Congressional leadership, conservative congressional leadership Roy.


Notice that throughout the recession there has been no real effort to put people back to work on a large scale. When he bailed out the banks he could have initiated a work program rebuilding infrastructure and putting thousands on the payroll. Instead we have 1% owning 40% with inequality similar to the 1920’s.

Under Obama leadership manufacturing jobs are returning so….
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-flips-the-script-on-jobs-reshoring-finally-outpaced-offshoring-in-2014-2015-05-01

BTW when you say “he” you are referring to GWB not Obama… right? Because it was GWB who signed TARP into law. Now we all know why no jobs bill has made it’s way to Obama’s desk don’t we? Obamacare. Our do nothing congressional leadership was to busy repealing Obamacare to actually work on a jobs bill.

I wonder why Trump doesn’t realize it is Congress that creates the bill and the president signs or veto’s the legislation, he is running for president … oh are you suggesting he will just become a dictator and bypass the Congress?

Income inequality, thanks for bringing it up. Conservatives think it is a good thing, not a problem so why would congressional leadership put anything on the table that would stop the conservative economics of the past 40 years from making the rich richer? Instead we get regressive taxation which only adds to the problem.

Posted by: j2t2 at September 30, 2016 9:40 AM
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We can have 4 more years of Obama’s policies or we can ‘make America great again.

Well anybody that thinks this to be anything other than complete bulls**t is living the lie. The problems in this country run much deeper than the office of president. Here is an example of republican/tea bagger conservatism governance Roy.

Of course we also have Kansas as an example of what repub/conservative led governance leads to as well as California which is more of the Obama policies you seem to think are so bad.

Then of course we have the US Congress the past 6 years. Lowest approval rating, do nothing but obstruct conservatism.

When your leadership has a game plan that consists of “stop Obama” you are lost. To think Trump is a the man with the political party behind him to “make America great again” your definition of make America great again is morally challenged IMHO .

Posted by: j2t2 at September 30, 2016 1:13 PM
Comment #407885

OH…Yeah…let’s have more California influence in our state and federal government fiscal budgeting j2t2.

“Joe Nation, a professor at Stanford University’s Institute for Economic Policy Research, estimates that if pension administrators lowered their earning assumptions to about 4%, California’s unfunded liabilities would approach $1 trillion.”

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pension-unfunded/

“The conclusion of this study is (1) the outstanding debt owed by California’s state and local governments, using responsible actuarial assumptions, is almost certainly in excess of $1.0 trillion, and (2) it is surprising that none of our government institutions in California can themselves provide an authoritative estimate of total state and local government debt, updated annually and available to the public.”

http://californiapolicycenter.org/calculating-californias-total-state-and-local-government-debt/

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 30, 2016 3:35 PM
Comment #407888

Our nation is losing dominance in many areas of manufacturing we once lead. Just a single example informs us that our national leadership care little about our national welfare.

We know for certain that a Hillary Clinton administration will continue the great American give-a-way of jobs, treasure and industry leadership.

“While U.S. elites were denouncing Donald Trump as unfit to serve for having compared Miss Universe 1996 to Miss Piggy of the Muppets, the World Trade Organization was validating the principal plank of his platform.

America’s allies are cheating and robbing her blind on trade.

According to the WTO, Britain, France, Spain, Germany, and the EU pumped $22 billion in illegal subsidies into Airbus to swindle Boeing out of the sale of 375 commercial jets.”

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/trumps-right-on-trade-predators/

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 30, 2016 4:56 PM
Comment #407889

Just a little fly speck as an example here. Al Gore invented the Internet and the corpocracy wants to give it away. Reason: China and Russia think we should share all things Internet with them. So, we just completed the largest xfer of wealth in the history of the world. This was recently followed by some billions to Iran. This was followed by the lifting of sanctions on Iran which wasn’t supposed to happen until 2023 and then only with congressional approval.

Currently we need to give away some authority over the Internet because some countries would like us to.

I don’t think so. My taxes went into to the development of the ARPANET and I don’t wish to give it away.

Trump will stop this race to the bottom and put America first.

A Texas attny gen has petitioned a federal judge to block the Internet giveaway. Should have an answer by this evening.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at September 30, 2016 6:29 PM
Comment #407890
BTW when you say “he” you are referring to GWB not Obama… right? Because it was GWB who signed TARP into law….I wonder why Trump doesn’t realize it is Congress that creates the bill and the president signs or veto’s the legislation, he is running for president … oh are you suggesting he will just become a dictator and bypass the Congress? Posted by: j2t2 at September 30, 2016 9:40 AM

It should be clear by now that Roy Ellis knows nothing about our form of government here in the USA, or how anything happens in this country.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 30, 2016 6:34 PM
Comment #407892

Roy, the Left is rushing to give America away. I often wonder who they will blame when they become serfs.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 30, 2016 6:53 PM
Comment #407895

Now I see where 4 states have sued to stop the giveaway:

From a VOA website, “The attorneys general for Arizona, Oklahoma, Nevada and Texas all signed on to the lawsuit this week that argues the Obama plan to hand over control of the internet in an illegal transfer of U.S. government property, and any such giveaway would require congressional approval.”

Royal the dem/gop corpocracy are one in the same. Globalism, do or die. It was Regan who gave the first amnesty and kept them coming. Bush and company secretly tried to put the NAU in place, a no borders policy.

The Senate could have intervened on the Internet giveaway. Don’t know why - they just didn’t.

Posted by: roy ellis at September 30, 2016 7:53 PM
Comment #407897
“The attorneys general for Arizona, Oklahoma, Nevada and Texas all signed on to the lawsuit this week that argues the Obama plan to hand over control of the internet in an illegal transfer of U.S. government property, and any such giveaway would require congressional approval….The Senate could have intervened on the Internet giveaway. Don’t know why - they just didn’t. Posted by: roy ellis at September 30, 2016 7:53 PM

Do you even know where any of those places are? You clearly don’t even know what you are talking about. You’re reading this nonsense from one of your goofy websites, and then copying it down here as though it was your idea. Quit wasting space with GARBAGE.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 30, 2016 8:11 PM
Comment #407898

Some more recent vibes on the NAU:

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/trump-threatens-north-american-union-scheme/

Posted by: roy ellis at September 30, 2016 8:57 PM
Comment #407899

Here is an oldie where wikileaks confirms the NAU effort is real:

I was ranting about corpocracy and the NAU way before 2011.

A lot of NAU policy has been put in place but just in small increments.

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/07/14/wikileaks-confirms-north-american-union-conspiracy-obama-signs-trucking-agreement-w-mexico/

Posted by: roy ellis at September 30, 2016 9:09 PM
Comment #407903

Why are you providing me with further evidence of your incompetence? Drumpf is a criminal who associates with other criminals. HRC45 is a dedicated public servant who has tried to make people’s lives better, and our country better, The USA, not your country clearly, since you insist on telling everyone over and over and over again that you know nothing about this country.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 30, 2016 10:53 PM
Comment #407904

Wouldn’t it make more sense to link to the cable in question rather than send us to a random blog post making unproven claims?

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 30, 2016 10:54 PM
Comment #407907


OK, here is some good info from www.one-simple-idea.com

This income inequality came about largely due to globalism.


The wealth disparity has been growing worse since 1976.
The wealthiest 1% of the U.S. population has 40% of all wealth in the U.S. (up from 20% in year 1980; never worse since the Great Depression).
The wealthiest 2% of the U.S. population owns more than the remaining 98% of all Americans.
The wealthiest 5% of the U.S. population has 60% of all wealth in the U.S.
The wealthiest 10% of the U.S. population has 70% of all wealth in the U.S.
The wealthiest 20% of the U.S. population has 83% of all wealth in the U.S.
The poorest 20% of the U.S. population has negative net worth (i.e. debt)
40% of the U.S. population has (on average) essentially zero net worth.
80% of the U.S. population has a mere 17% of all wealth in the U.S.


Posted by: roy ellis at September 30, 2016 11:05 PM
Comment #407913
This income inequality came about largely due to globalism.

No, it’s mostly due to automation. In fact, globalization has done much to reduce global wealth inequality. Because of globalization, the middle third of the world’s workers has accrued some of the greatest income gains in the past couple of decades.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 30, 2016 11:48 PM
Comment #407915

Income inequality came from inflation.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 1, 2016 12:43 AM
Comment #407916
We know for certain that a Hillary Clinton administration will continue the great American give-a-way of jobs, treasure and industry leadership.

Royal please clarify what you mean by national leadership. Listening to you one would think we have some type of communistic system where the state controls what jobs corporations send overseas. Seems to me you consider GE GM and the Chamber of Commerce to be our national leadership.

OH…Yeah…let’s have more California influence in our state and federal government fiscal budgeting j2t2.

Royal, do you really believe Kansas is in any better shape when it comes to pensions for state and local employees? Right now Brownback and the conservatives who promised the economic utopia back in 2010 are in such deep s**t stealing from the highway fund they cannot even consider the longer term. So why do you?


Now I see where 4 states have sued to stop the giveaway:

Where were these states when the “giveaway” started back during the first Clinton administration? Seems to me these whiners should crawl back under their rock before the rest of us figure out how late to the game they are.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 1, 2016 1:18 AM
Comment #407919

Roy


“I agree with Trump that eight years is long enough to tolerate such poor leadership. We need to put American first and find a way to create some jobs.”

I wholeheartedly agree. The globalists are counting on the continuation of the lefts policies in order to build their one world society. Their ultimate goal is to consolidate power among a few, while the rest of us work to support them.

Trump scares the crap out of them. They see their gains of the last 8 years being wiped away by a resurgence of national pride. With Trump positioned to win in Nov, they will do and say anything to stop him. They know he will clean out Obamas people, and start enforcing the law. He is not only a threat to their agenda, but to their freedom as well, as I believe he will actually have the justice dept, and FBI investigate the Obama administrations shady dealings.

Posted by: dbs at October 1, 2016 7:38 AM
Comment #407920

Why even respond to this delusional garbage by Roy Ellis and the two trolls? You know they’re just going to repeat it endlessly, because they think repeating it is FUN, here in their playground.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 1, 2016 9:06 AM
Comment #407929

My Leftie Pal orao believes this is delusional garbage…

“According to the WTO, Britain, France, Spain, Germany, and the EU pumped $22 billion in illegal subsidies into Airbus to swindle Boeing out of the sale of 375 commercial jets.”

This is just one example out of thousands in which American jobs and production has been illegally usurped with the full compliance of our administration.

Another Clinton administration will oversee even more transfer of American wealth and jobs to other countries and entities.

The Left and Ms. Clinton are working hard to import more immigrants while working even harder to export more American jobs and production.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 1, 2016 2:46 PM
Comment #407932
the full compliance of our administration.

Explain how a fully compliant administration’s USTR still managed to file a formal complaint regarding this matter with the WTO and win a judgement favorable to US interests?

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 1, 2016 3:15 PM
Comment #407937

The complaint was filed in 2004 Warren.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 1, 2016 4:02 PM
Comment #407945

The 2004 complaint was resolved in the US’s favor in June 2011. In December 2011, Ron Kirk initiated another complaint asserting that Europe was not in compliance with the ruling from the previous June. A couple of weeks ago, Obama’s USTR finally concluded the proceedings stemming from the latter complaint in the US’s favor.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 1, 2016 6:32 PM
Comment #407980

“Why even respond to this delusional garbage by Roy Ellis and the two trolls? You know they’re just going to repeat it endlessly, because they think repeating it is FUN, here in their playground.”

Lol….That’s not very nice Adrienne.

Posted by: dbs at October 2, 2016 10:39 AM
Comment #407983

oraoghaile is Adrienne?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 2, 2016 11:42 AM
Comment #407985
Lol….That’s not very nice Adrienne. Posted by: dbs at October 2, 2016 10:39 AM

Make that 3 useless trolls. You obviously don’t remember Adrienne very well. Many years ago, she stomped off in a huff because there were no women authors. Then, in 2008 she came back using another name to defend the unfortunate Stephen D. I called her on that back then, and she later came back using her own name again, I guess after she thought no one remembered her original stomping off. I’ve played with this website, and figured out what the right wingers left posting here are too dumb to figure out.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 2, 2016 12:18 PM
Comment #407990

Ora, your incessant criticism of others belies your contention of being liberal. Since your handle change from ‘oreally’, you seem to be bent on making sure you publicize your disdain with this site’s administration and other commenting being made. Give it a break, no one wants to read incessant whining. It’s as unappealing as the right wing braying and contributes the same amount of intelligence to the discussion.

Posted by: Speak4all at October 2, 2016 2:22 PM
Comment #407992

“Make that 3 useless trolls”

LMAO !

When I saw where you were voting, I figured out that you weren’t Adrienne. It was the excessive personal insults that lead me that way. oreally was my next guess, but speaks beat me to it. I’ve been posting here under the same name for @ 15yrs. So why the name change ?

Posted by: dbs at October 2, 2016 2:43 PM
Comment #407993

jane doe comes to mind.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 2, 2016 2:45 PM
Comment #407994
Give it a break, no one wants to read incessant whining. It’s as unappealing as the right wing braying and contributes the same amount of intelligence to the discussion. Posted by: Speak4all at October 2, 2016 2:22 PM

Read this column and discover that what is happening to the site is that the authors in this case and other commenters in others are pandering to incessant braying, and engaging with people whose comments have never been worth a warm bucket of spit, because they spend so much time on the website adding their stupid one liners and no one else does. If you don’t like the braying, and don’t want to read incessant whining, then comment more often, and dilute the garbage postings.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 2, 2016 2:49 PM
Comment #407995

Advice from the whiner-in-chief orao…hardly.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 2, 2016 2:58 PM
Comment #407996

This thread has devolved into many responding to you, oraoghaile! You’re the only one defending your own behavior by criticizing… It’s up to three now! Three other commenters! It will soon be four and five because they all disagree with your lack of civility.

The left on WatchBlog started this by banning everyone they disagreed with. When the administration changed and I was allowed to post again I made it a point to respond with truth. I said some unflattering things, but they didn’t violate the rules, and they were true.

The entire exercise was to expose the left to the truth. When they couldn’t defend their party’s ideas and methods they left. They packed up and abandoned the site. We were left with the constant insults from the few people remaining, Warren Porter excluded.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 2, 2016 3:04 PM
Comment #407998
So why the name change ? Posted by: dbs at October 2, 2016 2:43 PM

The name is the same. I decided to use an archaic spelling since I’m using the German Drumpf instead of the fake Dutch name he uses. He objects to people other than his family changing their names.

Posted by: oraoghaile at October 2, 2016 3:26 PM
Comment #408006

O’ghaile is Irish, yes?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 2, 2016 4:08 PM
Comment #408008

I use Hillbilly because she said we get 2 for the price of one and she will bring her husband back to run the economy.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 2, 2016 4:12 PM
Comment #408156

There’s no need to bring the lovely Adrienne or the honorable Stephen D. into your own delusional garbage postings, orag.

Posted by: kctim at October 4, 2016 5:59 PM
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