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Clinton Diagnosed with Pneumonia

Sunday morning, Hillary Clinton attended a memorial service marking the 15th anniversary of the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks. Citing the excessive heat, she decided to leave abruptly. Unfortunately, she apparently collapsed right before boarding a van. After spending some time relaxing at Chelsea Clinton’s Flatiron apartment, Clinton reemerged and pretended to be perfectly fine. Subsequently, she traveled to her home for some extra rest.

It was only after she went to Chappaqua that Americans learned the truth. Apparently, Clinton had been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, September 9. Earlier last week, Clinton's had a coughing fit that was dismissed as mere allergy. While it is impossible to know exactly when Hillary Clinton and her team began to suspect that she may have been afflicted by something more severe than a seasonal allergy, it is abundantly clear that they conspired to deceive the American people once they did.

This episode exactly demonstrates why I cannot trust Hillary Clinton to be commander-in-chief. Being President requires the experience needed to exercise good judgement. Time after time, Clinton has demonstrated that all her experiences have not resulted in any enhancement of her judgement. Instead, she has developed a paranoia that hinders her competence. Rather than follow her doctor's advice and spend the weekend resting and recuperating, Hillary Clinton went ahead with a packed schedule that certainly took its toll on her sixty-eight-year-old body.

In situations like this, a politician has an obligation to be level with the American people. Constructing fantasies does no one any good. Now, the Clinton campaign's complete lack of good judgement has blown up in its face. If people want to know why Clinton is believed to be untrustworthy by so many Americans, they must first consider why Clinton did not announce her Pneumonia diagnosis on Friday. Why didn't she cancel Saturday's fundraiser with Barbara Streisand in order ensure she was well rested for Sunday?

Ultimately, this raises much concern for me. Our next President needs to be someone who receives and heeds good advice. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, this is not a job a single person accomplishes alone. Help and assistance from others is vital. Disappointingly, Clinton does not seem to be operating her campaign this way, at least at its highest echelons. Republicans have been broadcasting conspiracy theories regarding Clinton's health for months. It should be no surprise that anything other than 100% transparency has simply fueled that fire. It is absurd that Clinton's campaign has done more than anyone else to lend credibility to people who do not deserve it.

Posted by Warren Porter at September 12, 2016 11:46 PM
Comments
Comment #407391

Just in case there is any confusion, I agree with Bill Hague, Clinton’s former British counterpart. Concerns about her health are totally overblown, at least as far as her first term is concerned. However, I would like to have the confidence that if things did deteriorate, that Hillary Clinton would be humble enough to stand aside and permit Tim Kaine do the job.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 13, 2016 12:04 PM
Comment #407392

HRC45 has as much right to privacy in her medical records as anyone else. Whatever information she releases is up to her. Has Gary Johnson released any medical information? Is there anything about the level of THC in his blood? Will there be any psychiatric evaluation for Drumpf? Does anyone care about Jill Stein’s medical records?

All this episode proves is that she’s hard-working. We already know more about her than anyone that came before her. I thought all the media repeatedly showing clips of her getting into the van was ridiculous. They’re stalking her like papparazzi. It’s not surprising though, since she’s the only serious candidate this year.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 13, 2016 12:05 PM
Comment #407393

Let me know when Gary Johnson gets diagnosed with an acute infection and fails to disclose it to the public.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 13, 2016 1:00 PM
Comment #407396

Acute infection? My question is when did HRC get her last pneumonia vaccination, and if it was recent, why didn’t it work?

Hillary Clinton said Monday night that she didn’t disclose her pneumonia diagnosis to the public because she didn’t feel it was especially notable. “I just didn’t think it was going to be that big of a deal. … It’s just the kind of thing that if it happens to you — and you’re a busy, active person — you keep moving forward,” the Democratic nominee said in a phone interview on CNN….“Oh my goodness, Anderson. Compare everything you know about me with my opponent. I think it’s time he met the same level of disclosure that I have for years,” she said….“Obviously I was supposed to rest five days,” she said. “That’s what they told me on Friday. And I didn’t follow that very wise advice. So I just want to get this over and done with, and get back on the trail as soon as possible.”
(Anderson Cooper)

Johnson looks stoned. He reminds me of Dan Quayle, the illustrious former VPOTUS. It’s seems unbelievable that Quayle was ever even chosen by GHWBush. Don’t shoot me, the next guy in line is totally unqualified for the job. With Johnson it’s the opposite. If they shot him, the next guy is much more qualified.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 13, 2016 2:17 PM
Comment #407398

“All this episode (pneumonia) proves is that she’s hard-working.”

Really? Pneumonia is a result of hard work. Hmmm…I’ll check with my physician. I worked at least as hard as Hillary and only had pneumonia once; after I retired.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 13, 2016 2:28 PM
Comment #407399

Did you play with your grandchildren after collapsing, Royal Flush?

My brother had pneumonia and he was bedridden for a couple of days. He’s as healthy as a horse and 10 years younger than Hillbilly. I have a hard time believing she has/had pneumonia. It’s a harsh wet cough, not a dry cough she’s been witnessed to experience.

What was that thing she spit into a glass she drank from during her latest hack attack?

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 13, 2016 2:52 PM
Comment #407400

“Did you play with your grandchildren after collapsing, Royal Flush?”

LOL…I never collapsed Weary. My wife and I were on a cruise and we were in Belize climbing an ancient Mayan pyramid when I found I could barely breath. I was too stubborn to quit climbing and made it to the top.

The ships doctor told me it was pneumonia and gave me some pills, an injection, and some liquid codeine for cough control.

By the time we got home I was breathing much better; however, it took months for me to fully recover. My personal physician who examined me advised that recovering from pneumonia can be as difficult as recovering from major surgery.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 13, 2016 3:20 PM
Comment #407401

By the way Weary and my Leftie Pals, I expect Hillary will recover from pneumonia…I do not expect her to recover from her congenital lying.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 13, 2016 4:22 PM
Comment #407403

I heard a conversation centered around Hillbilly’s concussion. It was mentioned that when she said she can’t recall she may not have been lying at all. She may not remember the meetings she was asked about.

That said, who was steering the boat while she was incapacitated like that?

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 13, 2016 5:24 PM
Comment #407404

Well Weary, with Hillary’s record for not remembering things which may embarrass her or get her in legal trouble; she now has documented proof of plausible deniability…”I don’t remember”.

I wonder if Obama and others still consider Hillary the “best qualified candidate for president ever”.

Regarding who was steering the boat Weary I can’t say and don’t care as the damage caused by the State Dept is already done. Perhaps the janitor was in charge.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 13, 2016 5:36 PM
Comment #407405

What do you bet she will remember everything (earbud) when she’s in the debates. Her mind will be as sharp as a tack (earbud) and phx8 and oreaghaile (I spelled that without looking) will be convinced she is 26 again.(earbud)

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 13, 2016 6:40 PM
Comment #407406

Wearing an (earbud) in the debate would be like a handicap in golf. What if Hillary has her earbud in place and there is a screeching audio feedback. I can see her hair standing straight up. Too funny for words.

Perhaps a body search of both candidates is in order.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 13, 2016 7:22 PM
Comment #407407


My bout of pneumonia resulted in a fever of 103, a two week stay in the hospital, a secondary diagnosis of type 2 diabetes, a defibulator implanted in my chest, and a loss of 25 lbs.

And it was, amongst other things, the result of wearing myself out at work.

This one’s for Hilary;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs

Rocky


Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 13, 2016 7:45 PM
Comment #407408

Pneumonia is serious…so is being dead.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 13, 2016 7:50 PM
Comment #407409


“Pneumonia is serious…so is being dead.”

Well of course it is. However, pretty much the only disease Hilary hasn’t been rumored to have is the Black Plague, which BTW, is the subject of the skit I Posted.

Did you notice Donald Trump ride through at the end.

It’s got to be him, he’s the one without sh*t all over him.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 13, 2016 8:14 PM
Comment #407410
With Johnson it’s the opposite. If they shot him, the next guy is much more qualified.

Tim Kaine is also a dozen times more qualified to be President than his running mate is.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 13, 2016 8:30 PM
Comment #407411
It’s got to be him, he’s the one without sh*t all over him.

In other words Rocky Marks, It’s referred to as being an outsider, a businessman, and not a politician.

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 13, 2016 8:57 PM
Comment #407412

“In other words Rocky Marks, It’s referred to as being an outsider, a businessman, and not a politician.”

Actually Willie, it’s referred to as being King.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 13, 2016 8:59 PM
Comment #407414
This one’s for Hilary; Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 13, 2016 7:45 PM

I didn’t see that post before because your name beings with Ro. I was just trying to look that scene up in MPFC Just The Words, but I think that’s from MPATHG.

I’m generally dehydrated when I go out, because I don’t want too many trips to the bathroom until I get to where I’m going or back home. That’s probably what happened with HRC45 going to the memorial.

Tim Kaine is also a dozen times more qualified to be President than his running mate is. Posted by: Warren Porter at September 13, 2016 8:30 PM
I don’t agree at all, but you could say that about numerous others over the decades. HRC45’s biggest problem is that she listens to too many people. She should do what I do and ignore more people and never feed the trolls. They only try to bite you. She should ignore Drumpf, and just talk about reality instead of the right wing’s fictions. Posted by: oraoghaile at September 13, 2016 9:36 PM
Comment #407415
That’s probably what happened with HRC45 going to the memorial.

Or….

In the middle of an hour and one half of reading the names of dead people, she got bored and thought this was a way to gain sympathy and get out of the sun at the same time.

She was killing two birds with one stone.

That’s one tough chick, yes?

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 13, 2016 9:46 PM
Comment #407417
“On the one hand, you have the most breathtakingly unqualified ignoramus to ever heave his spray-tanned bulk within striking distance of elected office, a race-baiting bully who, according to two meticulously researched biographies, is a tax-cheating, investor-swindling, worker-shafting, dictator-loving, pathologically-lying, attorneys general bribing, philandering, mobbed up, narcissistic serial con artist who hasn’t got the attention span to read a fortune cookie much less a forking intelligence briefing. But, on the other hand, Hillary Clinton used a private email server. See, perfectly even!” -Samantha Bee
Posted by: oraoghaile at September 13, 2016 9:54 PM
Comment #407418

Polly wants a cracker.

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 13, 2016 9:58 PM
Comment #407420

BTW, W’s administration “lost” over 20 million emails, about trying to find a pretext for invading Iraq, pretending that there were WMDs, and other issues of the time. The White House was using a private email server owned by the RNC. When they were requested by Congress, compliance was refused. So we should retroactively impeach Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 13, 2016 10:18 PM
Comment #407430

I don’t want HRC retroactively impeached nor do I want the same for Bush/Cheney. All I know is that the record of Bush & Clinton disqualifies either of them from my support in any election for federal office. The same can also be said for Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 13, 2016 11:26 PM
Comment #407431

Your National Security thread has been targeted by spammers two more times. I wonder why that’s happening today.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 13, 2016 11:49 PM
Comment #407432

Obviously, I shouldn’t be discussing my dealings with Rajasthani prostitutes on my homebrew server. Work related emails need to happen on the academic email account.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 14, 2016 12:04 AM
Comment #407433

That’s why I’m glad the writers’ biography function doesn’t work. My email got hacked before because of this site. I changed my password, and it stopped. Then I went back to the old password a long time later, and the hacking started up again.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM
Comment #407434

It’s a vast right-wing conspiracy, oraoghaile .

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 12:29 AM
Comment #407435
Let me know when Gary Johnson gets diagnosed with an acute infection and fails to disclose it to the public.

How would we know, it’s not like he gets any publicity? Maybe you could settle for any past STD’s or stints in rehab? At what point does a candidate have any privacy especially when it comes to health care? IMHO unless a candidate has a life threatening disease or some such it isn’t anyone’s business.

That said, who was steering the boat while she was incapacitated like that?

Ronald Reagan’s astrologer? The right wing propaganda machine? How funny Weary making a mountain out of a molehill like that.

Posted by: j2t2 at September 14, 2016 12:57 PM
Comment #407436

If anyone can do it maybe I should put my hat in the ring!

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 1:07 PM
Comment #407439
IMHO unless a candidate has a life threatening disease or some such it isn’t anyone’s business. Posted by: j2t2 at September 14, 2016 12:57 PM

I apologize for not seeing your comment in between those other ones.

All of this is coming up because a woman is running for POTUS, and Drumpf wants us to believe that she is weaker than him. HRC45 needs to stop responding to his nonsense and talk about reality.

AARP:

Pneumonia, an infection of the lungs, is a common disease, affecting about two million Americans annually, according to the latest figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).“If you go around to the people you work with, you’ll have a hard time finding someone who hasn’t had it in the last 10 years. Almost everybody has it several times through their life,” Frank Esper, M.D., an infectious disease specialist at University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center///Pneumonia tends to be more dangerous in those over 65 (Clinton is 68), which is why it’s recommended that older adults get two pneumonia vaccines. The CDC now recommends that all adults age 65 or older get the traditional PCV13 vaccine first, followed by a dose of the newer PPSV23, at least one year later……….///
Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 3:05 PM
Comment #407442
All of this is coming up because a woman is running for POTUS

Where do you get the information that leads you to this conclusion, oraoghaile?

I’m more inclined to believe this is a made up, faux outrage Democratics have projected against the opposition to hide Hillbilly’s weaknesses.

It’s Democratics who are bringing up sex. They expect her to be the first woman elected to the presidency, regardless of qualifications. Having a vajayjay is the only qualification, it seems.

I don’t hear anyone on the right saying a woman can’t be president. Any discussion about sex is coming from the left.

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 3:32 PM
Comment #407443
All of this is coming up because a woman is running for POTUS

Where do you get the information that leads you to this conclusion, oraoghaile?

I’m more inclined to believe this is a made up, faux outrage Democratics have projected against the opposition to hide Hillbilly’s weaknesses.

It is the Democratics that are bringing up s-x. They expect her to be the first woman elected to the presidency, regardless of her qualifications. Having a vajayjay is the only qualification, it seems.

I don’t hear anyone on the right saying a woman can’t be president. Any discussion about s-x is coming from the left.

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 3:35 PM
Comment #407445

Weary, it’s always the same game on the Left. Make up a story about someone not liked and then dare them to prove it’s not true.

Without the video of Hillary nearly falling I wonder if my Leftie Pals on WB would be calling that incident a Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Oraog continues to make claims about Trump and others but can’t seem to find links to confirm them.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 14, 2016 5:16 PM
Comment #407447
After spending some time relaxing at Chelsea Clinton’s Flatiron apartment, Clinton reemerged and pretended to be perfectly fine. Subsequently, she traveled to her home for some extra rest. Posted by Warren Porter at September 12, 2016 11:46 PM

From the original entry, “pretended to be perfectly fine”??

She appeared in public where people can judge for themselves. Did you need to perform your own examination to be convinced? Were you disappointed in some way by HRC45 being able to walk and talk?

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 5:29 PM
Comment #407448

She only does this frequently rarely. This time she frequently rarely passed out in public.

Bad timing is all it is. Tough break.

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 5:35 PM
Comment #407450
While it is impossible to know exactly when Hillary Clinton and her team began to suspect that she may have been afflicted by something more severe than a seasonal allergy, it is abundantly clear that they conspired to deceive the American people once they did. Posted by Warren Porter at September 12, 2016 11:46 PM

“Conspired to deceive the American people”. Really? Wait till you see Drumpf hand Dr. Oz his alleged vital statistics and hear one structured reality performer pronounce on the other structured reality performer’s health. Slightly overweight? He’s the most overweight since WHTaft.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 5:43 PM
Comment #407451

Still no links oraog…just the usual undocumented speculation.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 14, 2016 5:54 PM
Comment #407452

What did he even say?!

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 6:00 PM
Comment #407453

It makes no sense Weary to repeat unverifiable crap about past presidents or current candidates.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 14, 2016 6:18 PM
Comment #407454

Two more deplorables are being sought in Asheville NC, after assaulting a 69 year old woman at a Drumpf rally. Evil. Deplorable. Drumpf Supporters doing exactly what Drumpf told them to do.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 6:25 PM
Comment #407455

Great article…good laugh.

: Some Quick, easy steps to tell if you’re a deplorable

Are you a “deplorable,” one of those dreadful Donald Trump supporters who so offend Hillary Clinton’s delicate sensibilities?

As far as she’s concerned, the deplorables are expendable, in order to make room for her “basket” of voters, the despicable and the deportable.

Didn’t Barack Obama say a few months back that a candidate couldn’t insult his way to the presidency? I guess he was referring to Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton, apparently, can.

In case you’ve been wondering which side you’re on, you may be a deplorable if you stand for the National Anthem.

Or if you know all the words to the Pledge of Allegiance, especially, “under God.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/09/carr_some_quick_easy_steps_to_tell_if_you_re_a_deplorable

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 14, 2016 6:56 PM
Comment #407456

clinton-releases-more-medical-info

Clinton’s pneumonia was mild, noncontagious, and bacterial, and diagnosed by a CT scan Sept. 9. She is taking the antibiotic Levaquin to treat it. “The remainder of her complete physical exam was normal, and she is in excellent mental condition,”“My overall impression is that Mrs. Clinton has remained healthy and has not developed new medical conditions this year other than a sinus and ear infection and her recently diagnosed pneumonia,” Bardack said. “She is recovering well with antibiotics and rest. She continues to remain healthy and fit to serve as president of the United States.”

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 7:01 PM
Comment #407457

Glad to hear Hillary is reported to be OK and recovering. I hope she doesn’t overdo herself as I know from my experience with pneumonia that full recovery can take months.

Posted by: Royal Flush at September 14, 2016 7:23 PM
Comment #407461

She might have to have a relapse or two before the election. Like you said, Royal Flush, recovery can take months.

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 14, 2016 7:58 PM
Comment #407466

I’m glad to see Clinton adopting a more transparent stance with her medical records. Hopefully it is advice she will heed going forward.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 14, 2016 10:47 PM
Comment #407470

Like every other adult person, HRC45 will take care of her health in whatever she believes is the best manner possible. She doesn’t need to be dictated to by others. Her husband, WJC42 is supposed to be on a vegan or semi-vegan diet. As a free person, he also has the right to do whatever he wants.

Warren Porter, I had to delete spam comments from some of the articles I wrote too. So it’s just you and me that are getting that, after you wrote about policing comments. I didn’t see them anywhere else.

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 14, 2016 11:46 PM
Comment #407476

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/14/trump-supporter-asheville-exclusive-attorney-accused-made-whole-thing/

I figured this was concocted when the same photo was the only one showing up again and again.

When will Democratics learn they can’t make stuff up to slander people any more. It’s the video age, oraoghaile! Lie won’t fly!

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 15, 2016 8:26 AM
Comment #407477

“It’s a harsh wet cough, not a dry cough she’s been witnessed to experience.”

Weary,

Not true. My wife had walking pneumonia. The only noticeable symptom was a persistent dry cough. It was eventually discovered by a ct-scan. In her case, the infection had passed but some scar tissue remained which was causing the cough. In a few months that cleared up. Walking pneumonia is frequently misdiagnosed by doctors.

Posted by: Rich at September 15, 2016 9:13 AM
Comment #407479

http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/that-nagging-cough

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 15, 2016 11:02 AM
Comment #407481

Clinton’s health concerns have been ongoing since 2012 when she had the concussion and didn’t come clean as to the severity. Unfortunately when she goes weeble-wobble in front of the cameras, or starts hacking up a lung in front of the press, then the “stories” that get told become validated. That’s because with Hillary it is entirely possible that they are hiding a severe illness or that she might even have a body double. She can blame herself for a long history of not coming clean.

If she wants to end it then she just need Dale Jr. to get up on stage with her and talk about the serious effects of a concussion. Hec she’d carry the Carolinas and Florida if she did that! But instead she comes out of Chelsea’s “apartment” acting like nothing is wrong.

None of this changes that I’m one of the “Deplorables” for Hillary, but it reminds me just how entertaining another Clinton presidency will be.

Posted by: George in SC at September 15, 2016 1:02 PM
Comment #407485
None of this changes that I’m one of the “Deplorables” for Hillary, but it reminds me just how entertaining another Clinton presidency will be. Posted by: George in SC at September 15, 2016 1:02 PM

Deplorables are “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic”. I’m sorry if you feel that you’re being categorized in that way instead of “friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina…people who feel that government has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they are just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from…Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.” ”

Posted by: oraoghaile at September 15, 2016 2:07 PM
Comment #407496

Gawd, I’d hate to have to just hear something and have it stuck in my head, controlling my every thought.

oraoghaile hears a comedian mispronounce Trumps name as a joke and he thinks it’s the guy’s real name! He hears Hillbilly run off at the mouth insulting half the population and he’s repeating it like a broken record.

Are you ever going to have an original thought of your own, oraoghaile?

Posted by: Weary Willie at September 15, 2016 6:44 PM
Comment #407498

Ora another writer here labeled me a “Dixicrat” since I live in the south even though I wasn’t alive in 1948. Yet another writer said I was racist because I stated that I wouldn’t vote for same sex marriage if it was on the ballot. Sorry but it is very easy for people to cast a wide shadow of dispersion using labels.

And frankly I don’t need anyone to “care about me”, “fight for me” or do anything else for me other than maintain a stable government that’s competitive with other places to live on the planet. I’ve made it this long by doing for myself within the rules given to me. As bad as our politicians are I haven’t found a better place to live and until I do I just want our politicians to do no harm. Colin Powell’s assessment of the situation, as leaked in his emails, is pretty much spot on; I guess the difference is I don’t know Hillary personally.

Posted by: George in SC at September 15, 2016 6:49 PM
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