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Isn't it Obvious?

The whole world is seeing one thing.

The Media is saying another..

Isn’t it obvious?

If I said the sky was blue, a Democratic would say I was wrong!

Isn't it obvious what's happening is not in the U.S. best interests?

Shouldn't we be afraid? Shouldn't we be very afraid?

I've been accused of promoting conspiracy theories, and then expected to prove them.

Where are the counter arguments? Where is the crime scene evidence from the WTC?

Where are the videos of the recovered aircraft, laid out in rows in a secure building.

Where are the videos of plane wreckage from the pentagon and Pennsylvania?

Where is the crime scene evidence?

There isn't a crime scene in Pennsylvania that is on video. There isn't a crime scene video of the pentagon. There isn't a video of an investigation to identify the planes hitting the WTC.

I watched the first WTC building collapse. I didn't think it was because it was on fire, I thought it was a controlled demolition. I didn't see anything other than a controlled demolition.

Then the second tower came down the same exact way.

Exactly the same way?

Think about it! The second tower came down the same exact way the first did?

Hours later a third building collapsed, at free fall speed.

And no one knows about the third building. No one realizes there was a third building that collapsed in a controlled situation. Why should they? The third building collapsed without anyone being harmed. It was empty, because everyone was told it was coming down. It was being "pulled".

There is still no crime scene evidence.

It was like there was no crime, except for the violent repercussions of the event.

Posted by Weary_Willie at July 7, 2016 9:55 PM
Comment #405941

Weary, history doesn’t happen with recorders whirring and reporters observing 24/7. Some events could be preserved on video but may not be as it’s deemed too gory.

That would be the case with the Dallas incident where the police kill the perpetrator with an exploding robot. We will have to trust the authorities that it happened as they say it did.

We often rely on associative evidence from one or more sources to fill in the picture or blanks about an incident. For example, tracking data showed the track of the plane that went down in a Penn cornfield. Must have been hundreds of eye witnesses who either saw the plane go in or saw the crash site.

From such information the general public can usually infer the truth of a situation.

Where it gets frustrating is in the political arena. Regarding HRC’s emails, we want to talk to her co-workers as to how she was able to set up her own private commo system. There must be 30 or so DOS emps who are implicit in the arrangement. Of course they knew what was going on was illegal but chose to remain quiet, retain their job and so on - - -

Likewise, we want to know the interactions that have gone on between the DOS, HRC and the Clinton Foundation. Must be hundreds of people who are aware but have chose to remain quiet to retain their job and so on - - -

Conspiracy Theory: the GOP doesn’t want to push too hard on the HRC email incident as they know its very possible that they will be in the same/similar situation in the future with a GOP DOS political staff. So, it’s doubtful we will ever know much of the truth beyond what we know now.

Conspiracy Theory: we all know that HRC could/should be held accountable for mishandling classified as the law calls for. But, this is in the political realm and the GOP will not push too hard. The GOP has their political talking points going forward and that is as far as they will go with it.

The GOP has asked the political system to pull her tickets, knowing that that won’t go anywhere. They’ve asked the FBI to investigate the Clinton Foundation knowing that that won’t go anywhere, and so on - - -

It’s trying to get the truth out of political situations that most frustrates/bamboozles the general public.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 8, 2016 2:13 PM
Comment #405952

Why is it that for every plane crash the pieces of the plane were painstakingly gathered and documented and reassembled, yet none of the planes that hit the towers were, nor the Pennsylvania plane, nor the pentagon plane? Why is that?

Most certainly the twin towers should have been considered a crime scene with all the protocols adhered to, yet it was not. Why is that?

No one even attempted to rule out the use of explosives. It was simply stated as fact the planes brought down the towers. In fact, any disagreement was discouraged as being offensive to the families of the perished.

None of the explanations make sense to me or to many people around the world, yet we are simply told to believe the stated position of the government.

Since when? When did the question, “Why?” become obtuse?

Also, consider the size and scope of the Patriot Act. The actual physical size of the Act itself. It was voted on only weeks later. Are we supposed to believe a law that complex was written in weeks, or is it more reasonable to assume the law was waiting for the event to happen so it could be passed?

Many people believe this could not have been an orchestrated event. Why is there such a blind faith that something this horrendous couldn’t possibly have been done for nefarious purposes? Governments are capable of doing horrendous things. It’s foolish to think our government isn’t.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 8, 2016 11:34 PM
Comment #405960

WW, overwhelming information covering the entire several hour event. Mostly from hundreds of different media organizations.

I’m a great conspiratist and I see/believe nothing nefarious about the towers incident.

At that time there wasn’t much terrorist action going on in the US. We were 100% globalised during that era. Since, we have started vetting visitors a little more, albeit, the border is still open to all who want to come in.

Otherwise - - -

I’m sure we found some low level Saudi’s that were involved but that’s par for the course re big oil and so on - - -

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 9, 2016 4:42 PM
Comment #405968

I guess it’s best we all turn a blind eye. What better way to not have a conspiracy, right?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 9, 2016 9:46 PM
Comment #405970


Posted by: Warren Porter at July 9, 2016 11:22 PM
Comment #405975

Are your fingers in your ears also, Warren Porter?
La La La

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2016 7:40 AM
Comment #405984

Weary maybe we need to wait until all the facts are in, you know…. not rush to judgement. lets let the police investigate then…..

Posted by: j2t2 at July 10, 2016 10:36 AM
Comment #405990

I’ll give it 60 years, when the freedom tower is ready for demolition.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2016 12:38 PM
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