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Mudslinging To The Max!

Now that the numbers point to both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton having gained their respective political party’s nominations for President of the United States, the mudslinging has begun and in all the previous campaigns since elections were first held.

In recent memory there hasn’t been a vitriolic candidate for the Oval Office like that of Donald Trump. He speaks his mind, no matter how offensive and idiotic he sounds. He’s using the ploy of basically mirroring what millions of Americans want to say but are too afraid to. This has caused great ire among the Republican hierarchy and they’re abandoning him like rats leaving a sinking ship. Trump doesn’t care because he still has the numbers and momentum to give Hillary Clinton a good run for her money and possibly beat her in a landslide. This is due in great part to Clinton’s ties with Wall Street and the Democratic hierarchy that’s no better than their counterparts in the Republican hierarchy. People now see Clinton as old skool politics that won’t get anything done that doesn’t benefit big business first.

One would think the opposite, but Trump isn't playing ball with the establishment. It's probably due to the fact that he can't be bought. He's already a multi-billionaire and even if he loses the race, he'll rack up billions more due to new connections, notoriety, and strategies.

This now brings in the mudslinging. So far Trump has criticized Clinton on her Wall Street ties and Clinton hit back regarding Trump's business dealings that led to failure at the cost of his employees. These are just the tip of the iceberg of what's to come. As the battle forges on, pundits will be watching all the statistics and metrics to see what might happen next. As things get closer, both sides will start digging deep and getting nasty.

Already aware of what both sides could focus on, many bloggers and news media columnists are doing their own regarding slinging mud at the candidates. They're doing Trump and Clinton's jobs for them with scathing attacks on both and defenses that the two candidates wished they'd have on their teams.

Rumors and accusations and innuendo about here and things could get so nasty that by the time of the elections, Americans will be front and center to what politics has come down to, sensationalized tabloid foolishness that addresses none of the main issues with viable and sane solutions, just soundbites and jargon made to appease to the low-brow set of Americans that have about as much analytical, cognitive acumen as a boiled egg.

What's really going to happen is that the most feared force on the planet regarding any government, business, or private person is that of hackers.

Hackers have been working overtime digging up dirt on everyone and their brother with information of alarming magnitude. Nothing is safe from the hactivists, many of whom are Bernie Sanders supporters. Every little dirty deed by both candidates is lying in wait to be exposed and it terrifies their election staff. They don't know where or when such secrets will rise to the fore and there's no way to protect them. This will be an election that will be decided via the internet once again, and both candidates will be lucky to escape with whatever reputations they have left intact.

Trump won't end up as bad off as Clinton though. Trump isn't a career politician, he's a financier and developer. Clinton on the other hand is a career politician whose track record just doesn't cut it when it comes to honesty, integrity, and doing things in the best interest of Americans.

It's not even going to be a 'down to the wire' kind of race. By the time of the conventions and just after, the hactivists will have slung a mountain of mud at the candidates of sisyphean proportions.

Posted by GregB at June 22, 2016 7:10 PM
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GregB, the stuff hitting is the fan is way more serious than the personality foibles being bantered back and forth.

The FBI will have to take a position on Hil’s email server before the Nov election. I believe some hacker dude is going to publish some of her ‘work’ soon. I don’t see how she can run for pres if the hacker and wiki leaks dump her stuff.

If the GOP manages to dump Trump that will create, IMO, a bulldog 3rd party for 2020 of the likes we’ve never seen. And, who would they bring to front? I don’t see any of GOP nominee wannabe’s beating out Hillary.

It’s clear the folks don’t want Corpocracy or establishment candidates. The folks are sick and tired of being sick and tired.

I don’t see how Trump could lose.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at June 22, 2016 10:22 PM
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Seems the Brits are going thru same/similar political upheaval as the US.

Immigration coupled with economic issues and the realization that all their politicians are corpocratists, mismo the US.

IMO, this could well be the last chance for the US and Britain to retain some sovereignty, get control of immigration and pull back from the free lunch syndrome.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at June 23, 2016 7:35 PM
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If Britain votes to leave you will have a good chance to see exactly what happens when your ideas are implemented by the British equivalents of Trump followers.

Right now, with half the vote remaining to be counted, votes favor ‘leave’ by @ 200,000. The pound is collapsing. Their currency is collapsing. Just to be clear, this is a bad thing.

Next comes the British stock market crash, followed by a whale of a recession. Hope all the anti-immigrant voters enjoy their pink slips.

It will affect us here, too. Britain is the world’s 5th largest economy. I’m still hoping common sense will prevail, and the Brits will vote to stay. It may still happen. A lot of London votes remain to be counted, and they will want to stay.

Posted by: phx8 at June 23, 2016 10:32 PM
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If the ethno-nationalists in Britain win the vote and leave the EU, take a good hard look at the economic numbers tomorrow. This is what Trump and the Republicans will do to the US economy if they somehow win.

A currency collapse. Tanking markets. Deep recession.

If the Brits leave, then it will all be right there in front of your face. Take a good hard look. This is a preview of a world with Trump and the GOP in charge.

Posted by: phx8 at June 23, 2016 11:34 PM
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Great Britain did the right thing. Now they can control their own destiny. Global socialism needs to die, once and for all.

Posted by: dbs at June 24, 2016 6:50 AM
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Great Britain is giving us a free preview of what happens when isolationism and resentment over immigrants and trade win the day. First, the currency tanks and the stock market plunges. Because of the drop in currency, a lot of British goods just became 10% more expensive for everyone in the country. Next, the financial headquarters located in London for many EU firms close their doors and move. They will have to do that. No choice. Here come the pink slips! Between that and the big drop in the FTSE, lay-offs will start in earnest. Hello recession! Meanwhile, all the trade agreements will have to be re-negotiated, and Britain will have to do it from a much weaker economic position Have fun with that!

Just remember. Obama opposed the Brexit. Trump supported it. Britain is about to show you what an economy under a Donald Trump administration looks like.

The Brits were really stupid to do this. REALLY stupid. It caught everyone off-guard. Let’s hope we all learn from them. But it is too bad they have turned themselves into a cautionary tale.

Posted by: phx8 at June 24, 2016 2:56 PM
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Doom and Gloom.
Did you see the stock market drop? Sure, immediately.

That’s pure speculation. Purely reactionary. It’s the Doom and Gloomers taking profit. What do you bet the same people who sold their stocks to cause that drop are the same people who are going to buy the same exact stocks two or three days from now at an extremely huge discount?

The little guy didn’t get it in the shorts with this drop. All he has to do is wait and it will return to the value it was before. Remember 2008? Exactly the same, just different people culling the system. What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 24, 2016 3:44 PM
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“Great Britain is giving us a free preview of what happens when isolationism and resentment over immigrants and trade win the day.” This is phx8’s take.

Great Britain is giving us a free preview of how difficult it is to recover from decades of rule by un-elected and unresponsive bureaucrats.

My Liberal and Socialist Pals would like to have the United States abrogate its power to the United Nations. They hate national sovereignty, independence and individual freedom.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 24, 2016 5:03 PM
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