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Crooked Hillary Would Drag Ryan's Optimism Into a Swamp

Paul Ryan has a problem with Trump and is not shy about saying it. To people like Jake Tapper at CNN, for example. And what seems to be bothering Ryan - beyond clear policy differences on immigration, trade, entitlements, and how to approach national security - is the identity politics thing.

But identity politics - working class suburban and rural voters for example - is tied up with the other issues. You're angry about immigration and would love a President Trump to build a really big wall? You're almost certainly upset about illegals effect on the labor market in America. Whether your job has taken a hit. Or whether you may have - back a few years ago - hired an illegal or two for your little subcontracting outfit. Because you feel the pressure - directly or indirectly - that globalization creates on your ability to care for your family.

A lawyer with an MBA specializing in trade issues also feels the pressure of globalization. As in where the heck am I going to hide all this money from the IRS? And yes, she's a really smart hard working professional who might even be ethical as well. Though that's not a necessity. Because she's part of the elite that continually re-write the rules of the game as globalization sweeps around the globe in endless waves. Some bearing riches for the managers and owners. And sure, a nice little increase in contracts for the Trump supporter and his 4 person crew. If he's living and working in the right part of his state, and his state is in the right part of the country.

Some waves threaten financial systems and require huge bailouts. With taxpayer dollars paid in by our equally hardworking subcontractor. Who also faced a collapsing housing market a few years ago. And Rick Santelli yelling at him to suck it up from the pits of Chicago. The crisis was also a little scary for our Lawyer-MBA gal, undoubtedly. But soul crushing for our subcontractor. To say nothing of meeting his mortgage on his own house.

So when Paul Ryan says Trump does not represent his party, he should mention the polls which have shown fairly consistently that up to 2/3's of GOP voters actually agree with Trump's stand on issues like immigration. Specifically his call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering America, which caused an uproar right across the establishment.

If Romney seems bitter - and who can blame him after his disaster in 2012 - Ryan is optimistic and bright. But he knows perfectly well what the polling shows. But Ryan seems to be willing to fight the polls and attempt to pressure - good luck - The Donald into softening his cultural rhetoric, if you will. The big, inclusive GOP tent that Ryan envisages does not want a sign saying - Muslims wait here. But a majority of GOP voters don't agree with Ryan.

That's a problem for Ryan and for the future of the GOP. And as Trump has 2 and 1/2 months to build up his general election machinery, it will be up to The Donald to decide the tone of his electoral campaign. One can't help thinking that a sunny, optimistic and inclusive campaign - the kind Ryan wants - would be dragged by Hillary into a swamp somewhere south of Arkansas and left to slowly sink in the muck. We're dealing with Crooked Hillary after all. Ryan should understand that as he negotiates with Trump over the coming days.

Posted by AllardK at May 6, 2016 4:04 PM
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Comment #404566

FBI says no email problem here.

Posted by: Speak4all at May 6, 2016 4:15 PM
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Speak,
So much for the email problem. Not that there ever was anything there in the first place. Wonder if all those conservatives who said Hillary was lying will apologize?

Trump pronounced her “guilty as hell.” Of what, he was never clear. But then, he never is clear, and as often as not, he takes both sides on issues. It’s all just bombast and anger, populism and nationalism and demagoguery, a barking carnival delivered at a third grade comprehension level.

Some conservatives are pretending Trump never accused the father of Ted Cruz of being involved in the JFK assassination. Others are honest, and cite that as a disqualifying reason for an endorsement.

Any conservatives here care to chip in? Does making an accusation like that based on an article from the National Enquirer make a candidate unfit to be president, or is it something we should pretend didn’t happen?

Posted by: phx8 at May 6, 2016 5:08 PM
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phx8 have you heard about Eric Ericsson from red state calling for Republicans to apologize for impeaching President Clinton? It’s all right here.

Posted by: Speak4all at May 6, 2016 5:17 PM
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Speak,
Good link. Here is a quote:

“On the campaign trail, Trump was more a pathological liar than Bill Clinton ever was,” he wrote, noting the billionaire “smeared” his opponents’ wives and families, pushed 9/11 conspiracy theories, and “peddled malignant, false stories” about rival Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) father.

“Republicans owe Bill Clinton an apology for impeaching him over lies and affairs while now embracing a pathological liar and womanizer,” Erickson wrote. “That apology will not be forthcoming. In fact, for years Republicans have accused the Democrats of gutter politics and shamelessness. Now the Republicans themselves have lost their sense of shame.”


Posted by: phx8 at May 6, 2016 6:55 PM
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Writing at RedState, Leon Wolf finally comes to terms with the truth:

More importantly, this exact attitude is exactly what got us in this mess. The precise reason that started the tailspin of frustration that brought us to this point is that Denny Hastert, Tom Delay, Bill Frist and company never, ever said no to George W. Bush.

Bush wants a massive expansion of Medicare? We have to give it to him; he’s a president from our party. Bush wants to vastly increase Federal control over education? We have to give it to him; he’s a president from our party. Bush wants massive Federal budgetary increases? We have to give it to him; he’s a president from our party.

Over and over again during Bush’s tenure, conservatives (including Hannity) groused that Congress was completely ineffective in acting as a check against Bush’s excesses. Every reasonable person and conservative commentator lamented this fact.

Of course, the real issue is that conservatives really could not care less about limited government. This is why GWB was given a blank check to expand the power of government so dramatically. For the Republican base, White Identity politics was all that mattered. Of course, once the President was no longer a White Man, these people’s opinions about he role of government changed too.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 6, 2016 11:58 PM
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My God that women escaped her due once again! She must be the smartest sharpest cleverest women the world has ever seen to be able to get herself out of so many scrapes with the court of public opinion. I mean how many people can evade justice on so many things for so long? Well what we do know is she is guilty of something we just don’t know what.

I have complete confidence that Trump will get to the bottom of it during his march to the presidency. If he says she is guilty as hell then she is guilty as hell in my book. He got to the bottom of the Obama birther thing and he will get to the bottom of the Hilary is guilty of something we just don’t know what thing. Anybody that can tie the Cruz family to the JFK assassination can do anything.

Otherwise the campaign will be about policy… right…. about specifics….. about what each will do should they win the election. Who wants that?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/donald-trump-2016-213677

Posted by: j2t2 at May 7, 2016 10:41 AM
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