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Post Debate Trump Likely To Go Up 10 Points

As I see it the debate centered around Trump, Cruz and Rubio with Kasich and Carson scoring a few points.

Interesting to see Rubio and Cruz slug it out as to who is the most anti-immigrant. Diversity in politics can be stranger than fiction.

As usual, during the silly season there were those that recommended a flat tax or similar.

Listen up pilgrim, it will be a cold day in hell when the corpocracy gives up their microdial on the peoples money. Ain’t never, never, ever going to happen - - - short of a new 3rd party w/a/dif/pol/att - - -

A fairly good exchange, primarily because of the flavor, demeanor brought to the debates by Trump.

Trump has forced the GOP to change the face shown to the public during silley season. Not a small contribution, IMO.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by Roy Ellis at January 14, 2016 11:31 PM
Comment #401978

What struck me was the Cruz comment about “New York values” and Trump’s response. Cruz really blew it with that comment, and Trump nailed him. There seems to be a totally unsubstantiated belief that a far right candidate can win a general election, and then somehow govern effectively. The theory is that Romney lost in 2012 because evangelical conservatives did not bother to vote, and therefore, by just being even further to the right, a win will be the result. It makes no sense.

Yet Cruz (and many other candidates) take that approach. They feel free to alienate large sections of the population, and the phrase “New York values” is a good example, as if conservatism and New York City and incompatible. It begs the obvious question: if New York City and conservatism are incompatible, then why on earth would anyone ascribe to conservatism as a national ideology for governing?

Posted by: phx8 at January 15, 2016 1:50 PM
Comment #401987

I’m not sticking up for Sen. Cruz, but I think he was referring to the outrageous comments made by Cuomo and DeBlazio saying conservatives don’t belong in New York.

No one bothered to ask those two how a state with no conservatives would pay for it’s socialist mentality.

I don’t think Cruz thought through the comment, but I can see where he’s coming from.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 16, 2016 1:36 PM
Comment #401997

Does anyone really believe that Cruz was referring to 911? The NY mentality is about politics…nothing else.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 16, 2016 2:33 PM
Comment #402003

Following is part of Cruz’s apology for his NY mentality remark that so many liberals found fault with.

Go Cruz

“I apologize to all the pro-life and pro-marriage and pro-second amendment New Yorkers who were told by Governor Cuomo that they have no place in New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

I apologize to all the small businesses who have been driven out of New York city by crushing taxes and regulations.

I apologize to the millions of unborn children, many African-American and Hispanic, whose lives have been taken by politicians who relentlessly promote abortion on demand with no limitations.

I apologize to all of the African-American children who Mayor de Blasio tried to throw out of their charter schools that were providing a lifeline to the American Dream.

I apologize to the people of New York who are offended when the New York Daily News lambastes anyone who prays for victims of violence.

I apologize to the people of faith who are ridiculed and insulted by the New York media.

And I apologize to all the cops and the firefighters and 9/11 heroes who had no choice but to stand and turn their backs on Mayor de Blasio, because Mayor de Blasio over and over again stands with the looters and criminals rather than the brave men and women of the law.”


Posted by: Royal Flush at January 16, 2016 4:29 PM
Comment #402019

NBC has Trump at 33% and Cruz at 20%.

Posted by: roy ellis at January 16, 2016 11:35 PM
Comment #402031

Trump destroyed Cruz on Sunday morning TV:

“Look, the truth is, he’s a nasty guy. Nobody likes him. Nobody in Congress likes him. Nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. He’s a very –- he’s got an edge that’s not good. You can’t make deals with people like that and it’s not a good thing. It’s not a good thing for the country. Very nasty guy.”

Posted by: phx8 at January 17, 2016 3:49 PM
Comment #402034

Trump destroyed Cruz on Sunday morning TV:


Texas liked Cruz sufficiently to elect him over the establishment candidate.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 17, 2016 4:27 PM
Comment #402039

Texans did not know about how Cruz was financing his election. He failed to declare taking loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank. Remember, this is a guy who likes to pretend he owes nothing to any special interests. More importantly, he was also margining his stock portfolio to finance his campaign; in other words, at the same time he was telling Texans how bad the economy was doing, he made a HUGE bet with his own money that it would do really, really well.

Posted by: phx8 at January 17, 2016 5:58 PM
Comment #402040

Well phx8, I don’t believe I will play your silly “gotcha” game. Your bullsh*t is not worthy of my time or intellect.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 17, 2016 6:03 PM
Comment #402043

I don’t care what people do with their own money. This brings to mind the controversy of how politicians take liberties with insider information. I remember the law being passed to prohibit it and I also remember it being gutted.

If Cruz took advantage of insider information, it should be brought to everyone’s attention.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 17, 2016 8:53 PM
Comment #402049

Cruz did not engage in insider trading. He margined his stock. Instead of simply selling his stock and paying taxes on gains- the safe play for anyone who is bearish on the economy- he borrowed against his portfolio at a rate of about 7%. (Coincidentally, I was margining stock at the same time because I was very bullish). Taking the risk and using margin can be smart as long as a person is bullish, and believes the stock market will remain go up, or at least tread water. If stocks go down, there is a risk of a margin call and very large losses.

So at the same time Cruz was telling everyone how bad the economy was under Obama and how bleak the future looked, he was betting BIG that the economy would do well. It just disgusts me that he would mislead the public like that, while doing the exact opposite in private in order to further his own personal goals.

Posted by: phx8 at January 18, 2016 1:06 AM
Comment #402061

According to Bernie, Hillary has received $600k in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs in the last year. Bernie said that GS put a secretary of the treasury in white house, one a GOP’er and one a Dem.

A Hannity visitor tonight said that there was some quid pro quo for Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich on his last day in office. Says that Rich and his associates have given the Clinton’s millions since the pardon with one person pledging $1B.

O’Riley says that if Bernie wins corporations will pick up and move overseas in droves. I don’t agree with that. IMO, just about anybody can be president of the US and very little would change. With Trump or Bernie or similar, they would be no better or worse than those that have gone before.

Presidents are pretty much bully pullpit as congress controls the purse strings.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at January 18, 2016 11:30 PM
Comment #402080

phx8, are you sure he was trying to deceive the people, or did he just need some money and he chose that route to get it?

I think you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 19, 2016 10:11 PM
Comment #402082

Cruz needed money. He chose a perfectly legal way of raising cash.

He deserves condemnation because he was telling everyone how bad the economy was performing at the same time he was taking a BIG risk and betting a HUGE sum- virtually his entire liquid net worth- that the economy was going to do just fine. Remember, he didn’t not have to make that bet. He could have simply sold his stock portfolio.

He actions tell you all you need to know. I’ve said it before and I will say it again- Cruz will say absolutely anything in order to get elected. He is totally unscrupulous. That is why I predicted he would win the GOP nomination months ago, and despite Trump’s ascendancy and the apparent likelihood of his winning, I will stick with my Cruz prediction.

Posted by: phx8 at January 19, 2016 11:00 PM
Comment #402189

There’s that little thing called capitalism and being responsible to share holders to turn a profit. It isn’t pretty; but it’s that or bankruptcy. If your company is on the brink and you can cut wage expenses by 60 percent, what do you do?

Posted by: david at January 26, 2016 4:04 PM
Comment #414443

it’s weird to see this article right now. It’s like a bahis joke. Bretix, Trum.. what else?

Posted by: albert at March 17, 2017 6:27 AM
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