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What Is Jake Tapper's Problem With Carly Fiorina?

The depth of talent - despite Jake Tapper’s delight at prodding candidates into brawling - was impressive at the Reagan Library on Wednesday night. How to pick out clear winners in a format that allowed more back and forth was harder this time around. But there were certainly key moments in the debate. Trump was a touch more affable but got into scraps anyway, even if he and Jeb did a low-five at the end over Jeb’s “eveready” quip. And Carson was somehow solid and unimpressive all at the same time; his inexperience in political debate showing through a little more especially in his delivery.

Christie was strong from the start and stayed true to his style of combative attorney coupled with humor and down to earth sensibility. His comment about waking up every morning as an outsider in New Jersey was a great line and made a good point. But Carly Fiorina was ablaze. From her opening salvos about how the campaign would draw out the character and capacity of each candidate, to her rage at Planned Parenthood, one that precisely outlined what the videos show and that matched fury with clarity, she displayed knowledge and her usual laser-like focus on the issues. And did it seem that the Jake Tapper has a problem with Carly? He seemed much more willing to let others join in on any issue and more than willing to sharply cut her off in no time at all. Does the former pony-tailed son of "hippies" have a problem with a woman who takes Hillary head on? And Fiorina's devastating and concise take down of Trump and his "look-at-her-face" fratboy silliness didn't waste a syllable and didn't spare an ounce of venom.

Oh yes, Jeb was better. Definitely more centered and with a few good lines as well. And yes, the audience seemed more Republican establishment. Jeb waved at a few familiar friends out there before the debate. But by the end of the night, Fiorina seems to have convinced more than a few in the studio audience. Will it drive her high enough in the polls to really start to build money and momentum? It should, but she's still got a way to go. But she stood out on a stage full of talent and experience. Maybe Rubio got just as much applause and as always his answers were oh-so-perfect and well thought out. But Carly has got the fire and is an awesome presence and a skilled communicator. And her mind is as sharp as Ted Cruz's, who was good but did not burn as brightly as Fiorina. So what is Tapper's problem? Something to do with Chelsea's in-laws?

Posted by AllardK at September 17, 2015 8:03 PM
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“The depth of talent?” Really? In recent polls, a majority of Republican voters would rather vote for candidates who have NEVER held office and possess no experience whatsoever, rather than the dozen or so Republican governors and senators. All of them are in the single digits in the polls. “The depth of talent?” Ouch. How much worse does it have to get? If Bozo the clown announces he is a candidate and rockets to the top of the polls, will that be considered just another sign of the depth of talent because now there is one more candidate? Fer cryin’ out loud.

The GOP candidates are a disaster with Republican voters, never mind the rest of the country.

Fortunately, a lot of these candidates will drop out two weeks due to inability to raise funds. The deadline is 9/30. Meanwhile, the “depth of talent” will keep the fact checkers busy for weeks.

Carly Fiorina? Busted! Her impassioned speech about PP and abortion was made up out of whole cloth, and it has already been covered by many media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal:

So, she lied. She made it up. She presented as true something that never happened.

But the weirdest statement was the one by Jeb! in response to Trump:

Trump: “Your brother and your brother’s administration gave us Barack Obama because it was such a disaster those last three months that Abraham Lincoln couldn’t have been elected.”

Jeb: “As it relates to my brother, there’s one thing I know for sure: He kept us safe.”

The audience applauded. Apparently the entire auditorium was unaware Bush was president when 9/11 happened. He not only did NOT keep us safe, he failed about as badly as any president in modern history. That’s not even counting the more than 4,400 American soldiers who died in an unnecessary war in Iraq, or the more than 30,000 who were wounded, to say nothing of broken families and mentally disabled veterans. Bush “kept us safe”? It is obviously and demonstrably not true. It takes an incredible act of willful forgetfulness to ignore the fact Bush was on watch when 9/11 happened.

Bush “kept us safe”? How can any person be so deluded as to say that?

Posted by: phx8 at September 18, 2015 12:04 AM
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“…to her rage at Planned Parenthood, one that precisely outlined what the videos show and that matched fury with clarity, ..”

Except, that isn’t what the video showed.

Posted by: Rich at September 18, 2015 6:07 PM
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