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Obama's speech on YouTube


This is a link to Obama’s immigration speech.

He begins speaking at the 58 minute mark.


Most of the speech was emotional. The speech had no specifics about how he is going to stop the illegal entry into the country. This idea that children are being "ripped from their mother's arms" (that's a quote) is melodramatic to say the least.

Obama also said immigrants don't come here for a free ride. Does that mean those who are living off of government assistance will not be staying? Will they be paying their own hospital bills? Will they be held accountable if they break the law?

There was nothing said about how many illegals will be staying. Will there be more than 5 million?

This article says they are going to print over 30 million temporary work permits and issuing 5 million a year. How many illegals is he talking about? He said only those who have been here more than 5 years will be eligible for work permits. Why does he need to print over 30 million permits? That's 5 million for over 6 years! Why would there be a million illegal immigrants here in the sixth year? Like I said, no specifics.

None of the protocols followed by legal immigrants were mentioned. He said nothing about these people needing sponsors to vouch for them. Do these people just have to show up at a courthouse to get their work permit or will they be checked for diseases? Will they have a sponsor and a job that will support them and their families before being allowed to stay?

It will be the state's resources that are going to absorb this mass influx of people. It's already been pointed out by d.a.n how illegals are taxing the local systems. What makes us believe that won't increase?

I heard no specifics and that doesn't give me any confidence in where this could be going. The speech came across like a pat on the head with a dismissive "Let me take care of it" attitude. I've got a feeling this is going to end up with another 34 million "temporary" workers showing up over the next few years into an economy that's been slow to recover. Given this guy's track record with avoiding the truth there's no way to tell what we will end up with.

Posted by Weary_Willie at November 20, 2014 11:49 PM
Comments
Comment #385838

Come on Weary, liberals don’t have the integrity to demand specifics from this guy.
Hell, he could come out next week and say he created permanent work permits for all illegal aliens and the left would spend forever explaining that is what he “really” meant when he temporary work permits in his speech.

Posted by: kctim at November 21, 2014 11:00 AM
Comment #385881


A Republic, If We Can Keep It: The Founders vs. ‘Emperor Obama’

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 21, 2014 9:11 PM
Comment #385883

Here is Obama explaining why what he did about immigration was wrong. He is a constitutional lawyer and he did an excellent job of trashing himself. None of us can argue against Obama better than Obama did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBzodV1c3vg

Posted by: C&J at November 21, 2014 10:03 PM
Comment #385984

Yep.
Not only does illegal immigration (or even massive legal immigration) cause massive net losses for tax payers, just consider what near-future elections will be like with tens of millions of new Democrat voters!?!

Those trying to make a race, color, ethnicity, class, or nationality issue of it do so because all of their arguments are weak and unsustainable excuses and common tactics to divert attention away from these serious problems and burdens. Our politicians are despicably pitting American citizens and immigrants against each other for votes and cheap labor (essentially for power and money).

Crime is a serious issue, but only part of the many issues costing U.S. tax payers:

  • net losses of $70 billion to $326.7 billion per year; some estimates place losses much higher;
  • burden on education systems;
  • burden on healthcare systems;
  • burden on hospital systems; 84 hospitals closed/closing in California; 70% of women giving birth at Parkland Memorial hospital in Dallas,TX in only the first 3 months of year 2006 were illegal aliens; same thing for this Florida hospital; border states are hit hardest, but it’s happening in all 50 states in the U.S.!
  • burden on welfare systems; over 32% of illegal aliens receive welfare (often for their children born in U.S. hospitals at U.S. tax payers expense);
  • burden on Medicaid system;
  • burden on Social Security and Medicare systems;
  • burden on border patrol systems; ever increasing numbers are needed;
  • burden on insurance systems; illegal aliens can/will not pay for damages they cause;
  • burden on law enforcement systems; costing California billions per year;
  • burden on prison systems; 29% of state and federal prisoners (Sep-2004) are illegal aliens;

Another thing laughable about all this is that Obama once fancied himself a professor of Constitutional Law?!?

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, … , and re-elect, at least, possibly, until repeatedly rewarding failure and FOR-SALE, incompetent, arrogant, and corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 23, 2014 6:27 PM
Comment #385985

Yep.
Not only does illegal immigration (or even massive legal immigration) cause massive net losses for tax payers, just consider what near-future elections will be like with tens of millions of new Democrat voters?

Those trying to make a race, color, ethnicity, class, or nationality issue of it do so because all of their arguments are weak and unsustainable excuses and common tactics to divert attention away from these serious problems and burdens. Our politicians are despicably pitting American citizens and immigrants against each other for votes and cheap labor (essentially for power and money).

Crime is a serious issue, but only part of the many issues costing U.S. tax payers:

  • net losses of $70 billion to $326.7 billion per year; some estimates place losses much higher;
  • burden on education systems;
  • burden on healthcare systems;
  • burden on hospital systems; 84 hospitals closed/closing in California; 70% of women giving birth at Parkland Memorial hospital in Dallas,TX (source: snopes.com) in only the first 3 months of year 2006 were illegal aliens; same thing for this Florida hospital; border states are hit hardest, but it’s happening in all 50 states in the U.S.!
  • burden on welfare systems; over 32% of illegal aliens receive welfare (often for their children born in U.S. hospitals at U.S. tax payers expense);
  • burden on Medicaid system;
  • burden on Social Security and Medicare systems;
  • burden on border patrol systems; ever increasing numbers are needed;
  • burden on insurance systems; illegal aliens can/will not pay for damages they cause;
  • burden on law enforcement systems; costing California billions per year;
  • burden on prison systems; 29% of state and federal prisoners (Sep-2004) are illegal aliens;

Another thing laughable about all this is that Obama once fancied himself a professor of Constitutional Law?!?

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, … , and re-elect, at least, possibly, until repeatedly rewarding failure and FOR-SALE, incompetent, arrogant, and corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 23, 2014 6:47 PM
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