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Will it be an outrage now?


White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

The disclosure marked a rare instance in which a CIA officer working overseas had his cover — the secrecy meant to protect his actual identity — pierced by his own government. The only other recent case came under significantly different circumstances, when former CIA operative Valerie Plame was exposed as officials of the George W. Bush administration sought to discredit her husband, a former ambassador and fierce critic of the decision to invade Iraq.


No, probably not. You see, the outrage was someone lying when GWBush was President. This instance has no one lying. It was just incompetence. Therefore, there will be no outrage. You see, when a Democratic lies to a grand jury it's ok. When a Republican lies to an investigator it's the end of the world according to a bias media and outraged Democratics in lust for power.

Posted by Weary_Willie at May 27, 2014 10:49 AM
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Comment #378815

When a Republicanic lies it’s to cover up or obfuscate the truth, as was accomplished in the Valerie Plame instance (disgusting). No lying by the Democrats to a grand jury that you pointed out, so I don’t get the equivalence you are attempting to draw.

Posted by: Speak4all at May 27, 2014 11:21 AM
Comment #378816


Clinton, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/6narrit.htm#L28

In the Jones deposition on January 17, 1998, the President denied having had “a sexual affair,” “sexual relations,” or “a sexual relationship” with Ms. Lewinsky.(19)

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 27, 2014 12:09 PM
Comment #378817

Speak4all, it seems you know as little about the Valerie Plame affair as you do of the Monica Lewinsky affair. You need to take the partisan blinders off and take a real wide look at history.

Valerie Plame outed herself in an illegal campaign contribution where she used the address of her fake front cover business on the contribution submission form.

The whole thing was a faux contrived outrage to beat up the Bush administration. Here, a real instance of a person being outed by the administration and I’m waiting to see the outrage and the show trials and the media circus that should ensue.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 27, 2014 12:17 PM
Comment #378818

Clinton perjured himself and suffered the consequences however insignificant they were due to the nature of the perjury (his personal life and not really subject to criminal charges). This has been widely known for quite some time. The Valerie Plame instance happened in no way as you are describing, except in that fevered imagination that you possess. Scooter Libby was charged, convicted and sentenced for his misdeeds (covered for Dick Cheney) however your idol GWB made sure that was eradicated. You talk a lot about partisanship but are the most partisan person on this blog by my estimation. I take no advice from you regarding that. You seem like a very troubled man, dangerous to himself and others. Living with delusions and untruths as if they were real. I don’t think I can converse with you as it always seems you are at a hair trigger and I would hate to be the person to provoke you into doing something really crazy just because of a comment on a blog. Get help.

Posted by: Speak4all at May 27, 2014 12:37 PM
Comment #378819

Typical Democratic, shoot the messenger.

Still waiting for the outrage.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 27, 2014 12:41 PM
Comment #378820

Any outrage will take the form of a couple of newspapers posting a para or two about the screw up. Virtually no accountability for a 2nd term president. Any perceived culprit would get a pardon. I assume Scooter was pardoned or maybe he was in and out so fast a pardon couldn’t ketch up to him.

Like corporate monopolies/conglomerates, big gov’t mngrs don’t have a clue about what is really going on after the 5th or 6th level of mgmt down. Only time they get a sense of real operations is when something really good or really bad happens.

Otherwise - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at May 27, 2014 2:40 PM
Comment #378829

You need to take the partisan blinders off and take a real wide look at history.

Said Glenn Beck ! Seriously Weary perhaps it is you that has the blinders on.

Valerie Plame outed herself in an illegal campaign contribution where she used the address of her fake front cover business on the contribution submission form.

The whole thing was a faux contrived outrage to beat up the Bush administration.

Not according to your own source Weary.


“The only other recent case came under significantly different circumstances, when former CIA operative Valerie Plame was exposed as officials of the George W. Bush administration sought to discredit her husband, a former ambassador and fierce critic of the decision to invade Iraq.”

So is your source wrong or are you?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2014 7:50 AM
Comment #378833

You are all waiting for the outrage—best anyone can do is roll their eyes. It’s a dumb mistake that it was on a military list of people who will be somehow connected to a presidential trip. It was stated that the military tried to go back later and rerelease the list with the name of the officer omitted although the names had already gone out “Twittered”.

hmm outrage, clerical, clerical, outrage.

Posted by: simpleheaded at May 28, 2014 1:17 PM
Comment #378835

And another life in danger to the point that he could be assinated and his family also.

And you on the left take a ho-hum attitude and treat it like just one more case of a screw up of extreme magnitude by the on going admin.

Posted by: tom humes at May 28, 2014 4:38 PM
Comment #378837

We’re never going to see anything resembling outrage, or even a sense of wrongdoing from these hypocrites. The media makes up a story and the whole Bush administration is crucified. Obama puts someone’s, another one’s, life in danger and the hypocritical left yawns, hoping it gets pushed under the rug with the rest of the scandals.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 28, 2014 4:57 PM
Comment #378842

Right WW, that’s the way the demreps operate - - what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, time about is fair play, and so on - - -

A new 3rd party w/a/dif/att would work to pour water on such antics.

Sadly, few can be defeate thru the election process due to gerrymandering, etc.

Otherwise, we have the corpocracy we deserve.

Posted by: roy ellis at May 28, 2014 7:23 PM
Comment #378844
We’re never going to see anything resembling outrage, or even a sense of wrongdoing from these hypocrites.

First of all Weary you can take your “hypocrite” foolishness and shove it where the sun don’t shine. You are comparing an outing of a CIA agent for political gain by the GWB administration with an accidental outing by the Obama administration. Then because we all don’t immediately start condemning Obama for the screw up we are hypocrites. It is unfortunate that this information was released accidentally. But it wasn’t a scandal.

The media makes up a story and the whole Bush administration is crucified.

And this is why you can take your “hypocrite” and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Despite the best lawyers and the closed mouths of the GWB administration there were convictions resulting from the scandal. The intentions of the GWB administration was the outing of Plame for political reasons. They deserved the scandal that resulted from their actions.

Your nonsensical revisionist history has no merit. These guys lied and served up Armitage/Libby as the fall guys. The media didn’t have to make anything up. The actions of the GWB administration was enough. Had they acted as the Obama administration did there would have not been such a long drawn out scandal. It is hypocritical to compare the two incidents as you have.


Obama puts someone’s, another one’s, life in danger and the hypocritical left yawns, hoping it gets pushed under the rug with the rest of the scandals.

I am sure we would all prefer for the cat to be back in the bag Weary, all Americans. But it is out and that is that. It wasn’t intentional like the GWB administrations outing, so instead of the revisionist history why not accept it and move on.

Let go of the Obama hatred. You are drinking the kool aid without using your head. Stop believing the nonsense and revisionism and accept that this is a mistake not a scandal as the GWB administration outing was. Understand the difference, take off the blinders.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2014 8:46 PM
Comment #378914

j2t2, your comment makes my eyebrows chuckle!

This is a good one!

Despite the best lawyers and the closed mouths of the GWB administration there were convictions resulting from the scandal.

Convictions that had nothing to do with outing a cia agent! Ha! Where’s the conviction for breaking The Intelligence Identities and Protection Act, j2t2? What? There wasn’t one? What’s up with that, j2t2? A little tidbit you have to ignore to justify your faux outrage?


And then there’s this one!!

These guys lied and served up Armitage/Libby as the fall guys.

This is so preposterious it’s laughable! They supposedly get caught doing the deed, yet they had so much control of the situation they served up sacrifical lambs to satisfy the masses! Cunning of them, yes? Or was it simply a non-issue blown out of perportion to damage a sitting president?

…the hypocritical left yawns…
I knew they would.
so instead of the revisionist history why not accept it and move on.

Yea, j2t2, move on like a good lemming. Move along, folks! Nothing to see here! Now!

Pathetic hypocrites, all!


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 30, 2014 9:21 PM
Comment #378922
j2t2, your comment makes my eyebrows chuckle!

Well I hope it is because you took me figuratively not literally Weary.

Convictions that had nothing to do with outing a cia agent!

Lying about the scheme doesn’t count when it comes to government officials abusing their power Weary? I guess with you conservatives get a free pass.

Or was it simply a non-issue blown out of perportion to damage a sitting president?

Weary, you are upset the Obama administration accidentally outed a CIA official yet when GWB intentionally outed a CIA agent for political purposes, although deemed legal by the courts, it is a non issue! Doesn’t ethics count for anything when it is conservatives in office? This silliness you espouse about a media inspired outrage is without merit, according to your own source(which BTW you have failed to explain). In case you have forgotten this source tells us “The only other recent case came under significantly different circumstances,…..”. Yet you use the recent contrived non issue to falsely label your political opponents as hypocrites for doing nothing more than being intelligent enough to tell the difference between the two outings.

Once again the hatred you display for those who disagree with you politically is wrong, it is time to stop drinking the kool aid.


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