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The Left Takes A Beating.

California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution

They were maintaining an unconstitutional speech code, and now any of my fellow students can go out and exercise their right to free speech

Modesto Junior College agreed to change it's speech codes that confine students to "that little cement area" and to award Robert Van Tuinen a $50,000 settlement only months after his YouTube video caught the attention of FIRE.

Earlier I posted an entry titled The First Amendment is: which pointed out a student's confrontation with campus security and staff. In this post I noticed no one cared about this assault on the first amendment and the college's attempt to prohibit free speech. My post had zero (0) responses.

Well, I'm glad someone cared.

"FIRE is very pleased that Robert Van Tuinen and Modesto Junior College have reached this settlement -- and that Modesto Junior College students will now be able to exercise their First Amendment rights across campus," said FIRE President Greg Lukianoff.

Fire's (Foundation for Individual Rights in Education) primary purpose is to focus on activities of university administrators that violate the free speech of students and professors. FIRE lists over 170 instances on their website.

Of course, with lefties, it's "whack a mole" time. When one goes down, another pops up.
Freedom of speech under attack from the left

If anyone really cares, Bill O'Reilly points out another attempt to stifle free speech at Harvard University.

Editorialist Sandra Korn wants to stop academic research and opinion contained in that research with which she disagrees. She just wants justice. And of course that justice would be imposed by Sandra Korn who apparently knows all.

Sandra Korn says,

It's tempting to decry frustrating restrictions on academic research as violations of academic freedom. Yet I would encourage student and worker organizers to instead use a framework of justice. After all, if we give up our obsessive reliance on the doctrine of academic freedom, we can consider more thoughtfully what is just.

Why are liberals always talking about "giving up" something? And they want us all to "give up" on something in an effort to "give in" to liberal justice. Except it's not liberal justice, it's liberal ideology. Get your hammers out all ye protectors of the Constitution! That is, if you really care.

Posted by Weary_Willie at February 27, 2014 11:31 AM
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Freedom of speech should be limited only by clear and present danger. If it is “hurtful” too bad.

Posted by: CJ at February 26, 2014 8:58 PM
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Shoot Weary, I wouldn’t doubt if it was more about what he was handing out, than where he was doing it.

Posted by: kctim at February 27, 2014 10:40 AM
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OH pleeeeease, this is just a not-so-new “movement” by the right-wing where they can play the exploited and abridged left and speak out on the horrors of Obamacare(or phhllt???), because it needs our politico discussing, right now!
FIRE is the phoney left fighting for the good of mankind again and again. Stop pretending you care about anything.

OOOOOOOOH WAIT, I get it, it’s neither left nor right, right? Stay off of our campuses with your new mark of so-called “violation” of the crying right. You require my violin expertise, really.

Do you really belong there righty? I’m not falling for it, sucker’s bet.

You deserve no free speech, that’s reserved for people with something to say.

Posted by: simpleheaded at February 27, 2014 6:20 PM
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Did simpleheaded just give me permission to delete his comment?

You deserve no free speech, that’s reserved for people with something to say.

kctim, if it was a voucher for a free abortion I’ll bet they would let him, or an ACA application.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 27, 2014 10:20 PM
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Actually, the left supports all students right for free speech. Look at the ACLU’s mission statement, for example. It’s the right, especially video hacks like O’Reilly and his evil overlords Ailes and Murdoch, who actively attempt to stifle rational debate with lies and foolish faux controversies.

Do you have any evidence that the college’s rules were put in place by the “left”? I won’t be holding my breath, there’s a reason why your other post had 0 responses.

Posted by: Dave at February 28, 2014 3:46 PM
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Dave, are you serious? Give me any indication college rules are put in place by the right!

Name one right wing college that prohibits the constitution from being handed out on their campus.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 28, 2014 4:19 PM
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Sorry Willie. You did not answer my question, I don’t respond to that form of rhetoric.

Posted by: Dave at February 28, 2014 11:03 PM
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Good advice Dave. That’s a mistake I won’t make again.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 28, 2014 11:35 PM
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I wonder if you would be in such a fervor if Van Tuinen had been handing out the Communist Manifesto.


Posted by: Rocky Marks at March 2, 2014 12:32 PM
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Rocky Marks, I wonder how many people do hand out the Communist manifesto on college campuses and the administration and media doesn’t make a peep about it.

Unlike progressives, who want to stifle speech they don’t agree with, I couldn’t care less if someone wants to waste paper on the Communist Manifesto. I wasn’t complaining about someone not being able to distribute the constitution, I was complaining about someone being denied their first amendment right. If someone wants to hand out photos advertising his favorite porn star, who am I to object? I don’t have to take it. I don’t have to agree with it. I could also stand next to him and tell people he has a photo of a porn star before they get to him. But I’m not going to use force to prevent him from exercising his first amendment the way that university did.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 2, 2014 10:15 PM
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So… just for the sake of being argumentative, where was all this outrage when the Bush Secret Service was setting up fenced in, “free speech zones”?

I found it interesting that Van Tuinen knew about this a week ahead of time and took the time to set this up with a camera and all…


Posted by: Rocky Marks at March 3, 2014 5:18 PM
Comment #377054

I remember a lot of outrage about the free speech zones during the Bush years. Just because I personally didn’t express my outrage to you then doesn’t mean this instance is illegitimate.

Having a camera to record a public encounter is just being smart these days, Rocky Marks. It isn’t like this type of behavour by authority happens less than meteor strikes. Good planning is prudent. He could have also gotten into a conversation that was productive and wanted to post productive conversation on facebook. He may have wanted to promote himself and his cause with video he accumulated while handing out the constitution.

Not everyone has bad intentions, Rocky Marks. It’s just unfortunate authority considers themselves immune to what is in the U.S. Constitution and think it doesn’t apply to them.

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