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Dragging Our Heels on Obamacare

President Obama has delayed the implementation of the employer provision in Obamacare for a year. Many employers had expressed their concerns about being required to offer health insurance to their employees or be fined. This is just one setback of Obamacare, or also known as a “train wreck” to many politicians.

The delay of the employer provision is a forecast of what is to come with Obama's Affordable Care Act. Speaker of the House, John Boehner said, "This announcement means even the Obama administration knows the 'train wreck' will only get worse." Also, Democratic Senator Max Baucus, a key player to the creation of the health care legislation has agreed with Boehner saying, "The administration's public information campaign on the benefits of the Affordable Care Act deserves a failing grade," Baucus added, "I just see a huge train wreck coming down."

How long can we drag our heels before there's nothing more that can be done to stop or repeal this nonsense?

Posted by MichaelMears at July 2, 2013 6:35 PM
Comment #367847

Typical media propaganda. Take a lemon and make lemonade for the Democratics.

This delay points out the complexity of the bill. It’s good news for Democratics.

This delay shows how confusing the bill is. It’s good news for the Democratics.

This bill is unworkable, but it’s delay could help Democratics.

The bill is unpopular, but it could help Democratics in the 2014 election.

This bill is unaffordable, but we commend the wise move by the Democratics.

At least now we know it’s more about politics than it is about affordable health care. There’s nothing like a 2 year dose of kool-aid, er, I mean lemonade, to get ignorant voters to vote for their Democratic masters again.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 3, 2013 5:07 PM
Comment #367848

Wow, not one single fact in either the article or first inane comment. Do you guys work for the insurance industry or what?

96% of all businesses have less than 50 employees, and are exempt from the mandate. 98% of all businesses over 200 employees already offer insurance to their employees, and 94% of businesses with over 50 employees do the same. Most of that coverage offered meets the ACA requirements.

The small number of businesses affected by this delay have been given a year of grace to deal with reporting requirements. In the meantime, the state health insurance agencies will be up and running, so even employees being paid low wages at small companies will have the option of obtaining affordable insurance through the exchanges.

Because of Obamacare, health care premiums increased only 4% in 2012, the lowest in a long, long time. Part of this was due to the Obamacare requirements limiting the amount private insurers could devote to ‘administrative expenses.’

In addition, Obamacare is sparking a revolution in the data processing for the health care industry. A whole group of new business start-ups have risen to fill this need, and bring health care into the 21st century.

Speaking of new technology, Tesla is amazing. With cars and health care we are seeing great changes.

Posted by: phx8 at July 3, 2013 5:58 PM
Comment #367852
Because of Obamacare, health care premiums increased only 4% in 2012,

So that’s the government’s idea of lowering health care costs? Isn’t that the lie Obama and the Democratics chanted ad nauseum through out the healthcare debate? It will lower health care costs?

Ah, but what’s a little lie or two when government power is involved, right phx8? People are really just stupid, right phx8? They’ll believe anything you tell them, right phx8? Give them a couple of years and they’ll forget, then tell another lie, right phx8?

Part of this was due to the Obamacare requirements limiting the amount private insurers could devote to ‘administrative expenses.’
In addition, Obamacare is sparking a revolution in the data processing for the health care industry. A whole group of new business start-ups have risen to fill this need, and bring health care into the 21st century.

You tout limiting administrative expenses, then in your next paragraph you brag about a revolution in new start-ups for what? Data Processing! That’s administration, phx8! Is that data processing for medical reasons or is it for government control reasons? My bet is it’s for reporting to the federal government. What else could be in that 8’ tall stack of papers this law is printed on. You know, the law you had to pass to find out what was in it!

Has it ever crossed your mind that this environment we live in, as a whole, is abnormal? Could you even begin to fathom the idea the federal government has no business dictating our lives to this degree? Your complete devotion to the federal government is what’s destroying the American way of life. You cannot deny the American way of life is dying, phx8. Your god said he would kill it. You bought into it hook, line and sinker. With every law passed by a busy-body government in the name of “doing something” our American way of life dies a death of a thousand cuts.

Congratulations, phx8. I have to wonder what you’re getting out of it. Thirty pieces of silver? False sense of security? What?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 3, 2013 7:27 PM
Comment #367854

Tesla direct-sales petition hits 100,000 signatures

Petition crosses threshold required to earn a response from Obama administration

Tesla has been battling auto dealerships around the country in its effort to sell cars directly to consumers. Now, the White House will have to weigh in on the fight.

Poor Obama, every little squabble in this country has to end up on his desk. It must suck to be a god.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 3, 2013 8:06 PM
Comment #367855

WW, if you look in the liberal column, you will see democrats trying to deny they worship Obama as the messiah.

Posted by: Paul at July 3, 2013 9:02 PM
Comment #367857

Willie Weary,
OK, so you made it clear you know nothing whatsoever about HIPPA or the effects efficient data processing has on a business. Did you know private health care insurers jacked their rates 110% during the Bush administration? True enough. It was a major contributor to the deficits. And now you find a rate of increase of only 4% in 2012 unsatisfactory? Well, some people are hard to please.

You write: “Your complete devotion to the federal government is what’s destroying the American way of life. You cannot deny the American way of life is dying, phx8. Your god said he would kill it.”

What on earth are you talking about?

Oh. Ok. You don’t know anything about Tesla either. Too bad. It’s a good topic for discussion. Read up on it.

You really seem to feel the intense need to worship something, or see other people worshipping something. Please stop. It’s creepy, and it just encourages Weary Willie to make increasingly bizarre statements.

Posted by: phx8 at July 3, 2013 9:48 PM
Comment #367860

I took my frog swimming yesterday. He jumped into the water. I asked him how deep it was. He said knee deep.

He enjoyed the water while I lit the match and built the fire under his little swimming pool. After a time I enjoyed some tasty boiled frog’s legs.

You can’t or won’t see the temperature rising, phx8. You’re comfortable in your environment, passing law after law trying to achieve utopia. Yet the environment is becoming unlivable. You’re destroying the American way of life with one law after another and the end result will be tyranny.

Tesla, next generation electric car. I get it. What does Obama have to do with it? Or must he stick his nose into everything to think himself worthy? More to the point, does every disgruntled citizen think only the government can solve their problems? Why shouldn’t Tesla be able to sell it’s cars directly to the consumer? Why should dealers think all they have to do is sign a petition and send it to the government and Wholla! they get their way, like spoiled children.

Or maybe you didn’t read my link.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 3, 2013 11:09 PM
Comment #367862

Tesla is being prevented from selling cars directly to consumers at the STATE level. The purpose of the petition is to engage the Obama administration and encourage them to side with free enterprise, and against the state governments of places like Texas, North Carolina, and Virginia. (The effort was stopped in NY). In practice, this will not make much difference, since the federal government cannot do anything about such state laws. However, it will bring spotlight on the issue. The Tesla is one of the biggest developments in the history of the automobile. If successful, it will literally revolutionize cars. Not only is the S model a thing of beauty (and I don’t even care about cars), it represents a huge technological development, with every bit as much potential as Apple had for its industry, or Microsoft with its Excel spreadsheet.

In Texas, you cannot even test drive a Tesla.

So it is not a matter the federal government can fix. But Obama can put the spotlight on this, and polls show people overwhelmingly side with Tesla. It’s just a matter of breaking the hold of big money over state politics.

Posted by: phx8 at July 3, 2013 11:42 PM
Comment #367863

At how much a Tesla anything costs, I doubt many people are going to be worried about whether or not they can buy one. Heaven forbid Obama concern himself with something that actually matters. Actually nevermind. I rather Obama keep his nose in things that don’t matter and stay out of important issues.

Posted by: Joseph at July 4, 2013 1:20 AM
Comment #367864

The high price tag on the Tesla is smart marketing. It attracts the early adapters and gives the car an aura that makes it seem special. The car has already won Motor Trend Car of the Year for 2013. It may be the best car ever produced in the history of the automobile. It is that good.

Consumer Reports gives it the highest rating for all cars last year.

But something new like this faces a lot of enemies, entrenched interests that don’t want to see cars sold directly to consumers, interests that don’t want to see the electric car succeed.

We would all benefit by seeing Tesla overcome the obstacles it faces. Anything Obama can do to help, even if it is just moral support, would be beneficial for all of us in the long run.

Posted by: phx8 at July 4, 2013 1:53 AM
Comment #367869

I would actually love to buy a Tesla because I like the idea of owning an electric car; however, I’m considering boycotting any California based company. The voters of that state send politicians to Congress that are some of the most authoritarian in the country. If the people of that state want to keep voting for those clowns, I don’t want my money support their economy.

Posted by: Joseph at July 4, 2013 10:40 AM
Comment #367870

There are some days that I wound not mind seeing the United States split up into smaller independent countries. The blue states can have socialism and the rest of us will continue on with the Constitution. It is inevitable. The United States cannot continue to be united when the Democratic Party is hostile to the Constitution and does not respect individual rights of Americans. They are for socialism. We should call them out on it.

Posted by: Joseph at July 4, 2013 10:47 AM
Comment #367880

Help to support the repeal of the 17th amendment, Joseph.

That, and the 16th, did more to destroy the united states than any other.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 4, 2013 1:05 PM
Comment #367881

Joseph, splitting the country reminds me of when the French-Canadians of Quebec wanted to split from the rest of Canada. When the socialist found out they were loosing their government retirement and benefits, the quickly decided against it.

How long would it take democrats to realize it is the red states who are paying the bills?

Posted by: Paul at July 4, 2013 2:00 PM
Comment #367882

Wrong. The French gave up on seceding from Canada because most of the French live around Montreal; however, Quebec is a very large province, and 90% of it is owned by Indian tribes, and not surprisingly, they have very little interest in being French. They announced that, if the French seceded from Canada, the Indians would secede from the French. That stopped the secession movement in its tracks.

Posted by: phx8 at July 4, 2013 2:12 PM
Comment #367946

phx8,this constant rebuttal of extremist without a clue, like Joseph and Paul, with factual information has got to stop. It is just to funny.
Here in Colorado we have a small bunch of political extremist wanting to secede from the state of Colorado and form North Colorado. They have the backing of many extremist without a clue here in the conservative utopia where I hang my hat, but like most conservative ideas this one isn’t really going anywhere except with those that cannot think for themselves.

Its kinda like our elected representatives that continue to try to repeal the ACA over and over again, based upon Myth, misinformation, half truths and the outright lies of conservative movement leaders.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 7, 2013 8:41 PM
Comment #367986

Is that why Obama is dragging his heels, j2t2? Because of myth, misinformation, half truths, and outright lies of conservative movement leaders?

Hmm. Pretty influential for a party in disarray and on the edge of disintegration.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 8, 2013 11:49 PM
Comment #368315

“based upon Myth, misinformation, half truths and the outright lies of conservative movement leaders”

Damn that ultra-conservative Hoffa, eh j2? LOL!

Businesses choosing not to hire due to ACA, slowing growth and employment? Check.
Businesses opting for part-time over full-time employment? Check.
Businesses offering less coverage or even discontinuing coverage? Check.
Unions ticked-off? WTF!!!


Posted by: kctim at July 16, 2013 11:41 AM
Comment #368470

Obamacare is cutting health care costs dramatically in NY and CA.

Posted by: phx8 at July 18, 2013 1:25 AM
Comment #368663

From the NYT, on implementing the state exchanges:

“State insurance regulators say they have approved rates for 2014 that are at least 50 percent lower on average than those currently available in New York. Beginning in October, individuals in New York City who now pay $1,000 a month or more for coverage will be able to shop for health insurance for as little as $308 monthly. With federal subsidies, the cost will be even lower.”

Posted by: phx8 at July 21, 2013 4:22 PM
Comment #368769

Seems to me like the healthy young person who now chooses to not have insurance, will soon see a 300%+ increase.

Posted by: kctim at July 24, 2013 10:24 AM
Comment #368934

That makes no sense on so many levels, I do not even know where to start.

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