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President Says "They're gonna look good next to us"






It's more like he's going to look good next to them!

What arrogance!"

Posted by Weary_Willie at May 16, 2013 2:57 PM
Comments
Comment #366029

There are far worse problems today than Marines holding umbrellas.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 16, 2013 5:29 PM
Comment #366030

Weary, I think the President was meaning that the Marines would look better next to them than some peons in a suit and tie, not that he would make the Marines look good.
He may be an arrogant elitist, but I don’t think he would demean his close Marines that way.

Posted by: kctim at May 16, 2013 5:57 PM
Comment #366032

http://news.yahoo.com/video/raw-marines-come-obamas-aid-192829548.html

Are you sure?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 16, 2013 6:24 PM
Comment #366033

Yea, Warren Porter, like a president that is so full of himself he says and does stupid stuff when he’s called into question. The Turkish Prime Minister already turned down an umbrella, probably because he didn’t want to look elitist.

I can’t wait for Stephen Daugherty’s book of excuses on how it’s a Republican’s fault Obama’s skin is so thin he can’t stand a few raindrops.

…Or a question about his administration breaking the law.


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 16, 2013 6:28 PM
Comment #366034

Let’s have a contest for stupidest article of the year on WB. This one will be a strong contender, but there’s seven months left for mind-blowing unfocused Obama hatred. With Weary Willie reading Breitbart, there are bound be countless opportunities for lots more silly misrepresentations. It is so asinine, and the intent is so mean, and yet, it comes across as… I dunno, kinda endearing.

‘Is that an article by Weary Willie linking Breitbart?’

‘Oh yes. That’s our tiny idiot attempting to have an opinion. It almost worked. Or not. The point is, our prescious hateseses Obama. Isn’t he cute? Just like
Gollum. Don’t forget to vote!’

Posted by: phx8 at May 16, 2013 6:29 PM
Comment #366035

Oooh, struck a nerve!

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 16, 2013 6:32 PM
Comment #366036

Easy, Weary Willie. We don’t have a contest for stupidest comments.

Posted by: phx8 at May 16, 2013 6:35 PM
Comment #366040

I would like to have seen that Marine put the umbrella where the sun don’t shine.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 16, 2013 6:55 PM
Comment #366045

That would have been priceless Royal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: KAP at May 16, 2013 7:37 PM
Comment #366049

Those marines were ceremonial guards. They were not armed. They were there specifically to provide presidential courtesies such as opening doors, saluting, and, yes, holding umbrellas over the president and dignitaries. In this case, the president said he had a spare suit, but did not know if the Turkish Prime Minister had one available, so he motioned in the ceremonial guards as an extension of courtesy to the prime minister. It was a gracious thing to do for a high ranking official representing a good ally.

Posted by: phx8 at May 16, 2013 8:04 PM
Comment #366050

You’re allergic to Obama, I guess.

Look, that’s the President with a foreign head of state. He could hold the umbrella himself, and have his fellow leader do the same, or they could make it look more dignified.

That guy, whether you like it or not, represents us. His dignity is our dignity. Same with the other guy. Now, if he gives the head of state his dignity, but doesn’t allow for his own, what does he look, like he’s an inferior, like he’s trying to be tougher than the other guy?

Of course, if both refused, it looks totally pathetic.

No, a couple marines had to get a little waterlogged, but on the balance, we weren’t embarrassed by having our President get soaked before an international audience.

No, the embarrassment comes later as folks on the right defy common sense to attack the President. I would not have begrudged Bush, Reagan, Clinton, or any other President the protection of an umbrella during a bad storm. I want my President, whoever it is, to keep a measure of dignity.

I’m old-fashioned like that.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 16, 2013 8:11 PM
Comment #366051

Phx8,

Why bother trying to explain that the President was just being courteous to the Turkish Prime Minister. Why bother trying to explain that it is the job of the ceremonial Marine Guards to provide an umbrella for dignitaries. They were prepared to provide umbrella coverage. It is their job. It is not demeaning.

Oh, why bother indeed! It is just amazing the extent to which some will go to disparage Obama. Even when he is just simply being a nice guy, a weird motive is ascribed.

Posted by: Rich at May 16, 2013 8:18 PM
Comment #366053

An hour and a half, Stephen Daugherty! Sleepin’ or what?

An umbrella when it rains? Sure, why not. “They’re gonna look good next to us?”, arrogant. Using marines as props. Typical of Democratics. That’s all they’re good for, right Stephen Daugherty?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 16, 2013 8:47 PM
Comment #366069

Weary
Nobody can be sure of what he was thinking, but I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt on this one.

For me, the interesting thing is how fast his Following came out to make this about the umbrella rather than what was said.

Posted by: kctim at May 17, 2013 9:37 AM
Comment #366072

He was thinking about the photo op and he was thinking the marines would look good next to him.

That’s what he said. He could have said “Hey! Someone get us some umbrellas!”, but he didn’t. He wanted to use the marines as a prop to make a photo. That’s what he said.

“They’re gonna look good next to us”

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 17, 2013 10:31 AM
Comment #366086

Weary Willie-
It’s been my observation that a lack of serious thought with no sense of humor is a lethal combination. You start from the premise that he’s simply looking to humiliate or use the soldiers, when in fact, those soldiers have been doing that kind of duty for decades for other Presidents as well.

Grow up, Relax, do whatever you need to do to stop dwelling on stupid ****.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 17, 2013 4:45 PM
Comment #366087

Yes Weary, stop dwelling on stupid **** and start dwelling on important ****, like a President reading a book to a bunch of school children. Or, really super duper serious **** like a President having the nerve to have his picture taken while flying in a helicopter after a major disaster.
There’s no way other Presidents have been doing those kind of things for decades.

P.S.
If you have the time, you can also dwell on a President chopping wood at his ranch instead of hanging out with multi-millionaire celebrities.

Posted by: kctim at May 17, 2013 5:49 PM
Comment #366090

kctim-
1) You’re just told that we’re under attack. Do you A) sit around for several minutes looking dazed, or B) would you hope to have the guts to immediately react, and give the kids your apologies?

2) Obama gets dinged for being aloof, but Bush was worse than that, just flying over the devastating, and when he shows up, he stacks a bunch of equipment behind him as part of a photo op, and then takes it with him when he goes.

3) You know, you guys go after Obama for having a golf game every other week (though you tend to phrase it as “hundreds of golf games”, giving no sense of proportion) But you had Bush spending over a year of his Presidency playing around with a chainsaw in central Texas, when most people have the sense to be indoors. The guy was brush-cutting in August in Central Texas, when most people do that stuff in fall, when the temperature isn’t in the triple digits.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 17, 2013 6:47 PM
Comment #366094

The fact that Breitbart would suggest the president is “arrogant” for having ceremonial marines hold umbrellas over a visiting head of state makes very little sense. It would require the president to have absolutely no sense of tact or social awareness, despite being in front of a visiting dignitary, a large crowd, and countless cameras. It makes no sense unless you consider the kind of people who would actually buy into it.

Consider the optics for those motivated by irrational hatred. The Marines are transformed from ceremonial guards enhancing the dignity of the head of state and a visiting head, to mere “props.” Those fine young white Christian Marines are holding umbrellas over an “arrogant” black man and a muslim. That kind of hatred is hard for most of us to imagine, but it certainly exists. The sight enrages some people. A gracious gesture becomes a demeaning slap in the face. To the haters, the president is “arrogant,” which is another word for uppity.

Posted by: phx8 at May 17, 2013 7:33 PM
Comment #366102

kctim-
Hanging out with multi-millionaire celebs. Not something Reagan…
George H. W. Bush
President Bush again

Reagan again…

Dubya…

Well, hell, let’s stop there and think: Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger were basically multi-millionaire celebs to begin with!

So, if you elected a multi-millionaire celeb President, you got no room to talk about Obama having friends in Hollywood.

It’s just another stupid, petty attack. Republicans had a lousy, low-charisma, not so bright man as President, so when Democrats come along with a charming guy who only occasionally makes mistakes when he talks, Republicans have to deny him that strength by making it into a weakness.

But any reasonable look at things will yield the truth that all kinds of people hang out with Presidents, including the last one. Y’all are just getting lazy and petty about it.

Again: Grow up. Stop acting like schoolyard bullies.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 17, 2013 10:36 PM
Comment #366133

phx8, are you being racist? It appears you are being racist by your comment. You inject race and race hatred into the conversation. That is racist, isn’t it?

Stephen Daugherty, how do you like it? Not much I see. George Bush endured stupid asterisks from Democratics for the entire 8 years he was president. He was painted in joker face. He was portrayed as Hitler. He was assasinated in a movie for God’s sake! And now you have the gall to cry about a little ribbing? Your skin is thinner than Obama’s. George Bush took it with dignity.

And again, you are complaining about things that Democratics do as a matter of course. Such a demonstration of hypocrisy, it’s unfathomable.


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 18, 2013 3:52 AM
Comment #366136

Two things I note:

1. Stephen and the left can dish it out, but can’t take it.

2. Second is Stephen’s comment: “That guy, whether you like it or not, represents us. His dignity is our dignity.”

There is nothing about Obama’s politics or personal life that represents me or mine. Secondly, it is too late for dignity. Obama has looked like a buffoon for the past 4 years. Stephen, he should have thought of his dignity when he was bowing to the Islamic Princes of Saudi Arabia, or kissing the asses of Americas enemies.

Regarding the umbrella; who was holding the umbrellas over the heads of the press as they waited for 40 minutes for Obama to show up? The Turkish PM did not want an umbrella because he was more interested in looking like a man than a wuss. Obama, on the other hand is a born natural wuss, so it was only natural for him to call for an umbrella. He was probably worried that the rain would was the Grecian Formula out of his grey hair.

Regarding the Marines; nothing is ever as it seems. Obama may have said his eminence would make the marines look good; but in reality, having marines next to Obama almost made him look like a leader…almost.

Posted by: CasperWY at May 18, 2013 10:35 AM
Comment #366137

Wow! Talk about much ado about nothing. New lows for the conservatives as they continue their attacks on Obama. He is arrogant for suggesting Marines would look good next to him and the Turkish PM. The Marines did look good up there, why are simple statements of fact so hard for you guys? I believe Phx8 has it right you meant “uppity” and the hatred overwhelmed your reasoning abilities.

You guys are actually down to using the “well the Dems did it to” logic to defend your foolishness. Do you realize that? You guys are at the level of the bullies in grade school justifying their actions on the playground with “well he hit me too” and “he did it first”. You are grasping at straws trying to find anything to bully Obama out of office. Benghazi has failed you. The IRS scandal has failed you. Now it is “Umbrellagate”. New lows I say.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 18, 2013 10:43 AM
Comment #366138

j2t2 said:

“You guys are actually down to using the “well the Dems did it to” logic to defend your foolishness.”

Nice observation j2; now go to the article in the blue column title:

“Benghazigate Investigation Continues”

Posted by obamaluv on May 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Look down through the list of 192 comments and tell us how many times the Democrats made the comment, “the Republicans did it to”.

I’m glad to see that the left is far above the fray and not willing to stoop to “bullies in grade school justifying their actions on the playground with “well he hit me too” and “he did it first”.

Posted by: DSP2195 at May 18, 2013 11:03 AM
Comment #366139

Poor Weary Willie. All you do is post just one little article expressing anger and hatred for that arrogant president. You can’t explain the anger and hatred in a way that makes sense to anyone except to one other commenter, and that person amps up your anger and hatred because he wants to see the Marine “stick that umbrella where the sun don’t shine.” When called on it, how do you respond? That I’m a racist for noticing?

Oh, for pity’s sake. Stop playing the victim. You brought this on yourself. Now, look yourself in the eye. Ask yourself why you hate Obama so much, and try and give an honest, rational, real-life answer. Get real. Man up.

Posted by: phx8 at May 18, 2013 11:09 AM
Comment #366142

You’re the one who brought up hatred and racism. I’m just laughing at the guy. I break the liberal first commandment and you guys’ panties are in a wad! You guys couldn’t have just said, “Yea, it does look like he’s taking advantage.” Nope! You guys have moral outrage someone could make fun of your god. I guess when you belong to him it makes it personal for you.

Now, give me your lunch money.


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 18, 2013 12:41 PM
Comment #366144

Weary Willie-
You are complaining about a President having an umbrella held over his head by a Ceremonial Guard Marine while he has to give a speech with a fellow head of state, who, might I add also got the same treatment, a fact which the Republicans and people like you don’t take note of.

So, this minor example of a dignity extended to the President, who represents us all, represents our country, is enough to merit a whole bunch of anger.

Like having a golf game once every other week or so. Y’all get outraged about that, too. You get outraged when he doesn’t use the talking point or the theory you prefer when he first talks about it. And then you say that this is worse than the Watergate Burglary, or the Iran Contra Arms for Hostages/Illegal support for a guerilla insurgency.

That’s thin skin. That’s outrage out of control of any kind of dignified reason. And that is truly what gets me angry. I don’t expect that he never get criticism, or that real scandals be ignored. But I do expect that when people make a big deal out of something, that they make big deals out of things that deserve to be so prioritized.

CasperWY-
George W. Bush bowed before the same Princes. He probably also bowed to the Japanese Emperor. It’s a sign of respect. You remember that?

Both Bushes had officers holding umbrellas for them.

The Elder Bush has an umbrella held for him in another shot.

I believe that if he had done what you said, your people would criticize him for having let a foreign dignitary get soaked, or you would have had a picture taken of him all soaked and stuff, and used that against him.

I learned a harsh lesson when I was younger that when you respond to the criticism of bullies, nothing changes. If you go right, they’ll berate you for going right, if you go left, they’ll berate you for going left. Bullying is about domination. It’s about making somebody quite aware of the boot you have on their neck. My feeling is, you don’t much care in particular what Obama does, you just want him to be defeated, and so you are prepared to grab at ANY opportunity to criticize him.

I think what Obama should do is what seems best and most rational. Bullies are only appeased by their targets’ failure and degradation.

You know, the thing is, I don’t have to humiliate you or Bush to feel like a man. I don’t have to worry about that. But it seems like Republicans and conservatives these days worry about nothing else.

Given all we really have to worry about, that’s worse than sad, that’s dangerous. I remember clearly Republicans saying we shouldn’t send cruise missiles after Bin Laden, because he was only trying to distract from Lewinsky.

But now? Hmmm, if Obama doesn’t immediately state that an attack on our embassy was done by terrorists, it’s a sign of weakness. I’d say the biggest weakness is getting so distracted by politics that you fail to do YOUR JOB.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 18, 2013 2:18 PM
Comment #366145

Stephen Daugherty, let me ask you a question. What would America look like if you got your wish and there were no opposition to liberal goals? Do you think all you need is unfettered, autonomous control and your utopia would be realized?

I look at the domination of California by the Democratics. They have complete control over their legislature. I also look at Chicago. The Democratics have complete control over their city government as well. How about Detroit? It is dominated by Democratics. Is that what you want for America?

Where is your example of liberal goals coming to fruition to establish your Eden? I can’t think of any, which is why Obama’s and the Democratic’s blatant arrogance is unwarranted and unwelcome.

“They’re gonna look good next to us.”
Phooey


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 18, 2013 2:51 PM
Comment #366146

Do you mean Lewinsky, who is only trying to distract from Whitewater?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 18, 2013 2:54 PM
Comment #366147

“I learned a harsh lesson when I was younger that when you respond to the criticism of bullies, nothing changes.”

Stephen, I imagine you were bullied as a youth. This is why you hide behind a computer screen and try to impress everyone with intelligencia.

“What would America look like if you got your wish and there were no opposition to liberal goals? Do you think all you need is unfettered, autonomous control and your utopia would be realized?”

Very good point Weary; but Stephen and his leftist friends cannot answer it. This is called “Liberalism”. Obama is not the problem, neither is Hillary, or Pelosi, or even Harry Reid; the problem is liberalism. These people are only the symptoms of the problem. Whether it’s Benghazi, the IRS, or even the AP scandal, it doesn’t make any difference; the mindset of all those involved in these scandals is liberal. Why are we shocked when the subordinates of Obama do and think just as Obama? Obama has said the targeting of conservatives is inexcusable and heads would role, Steven Miller said it was inexcusable, the Democrat congress said it was inexcusable; but Steven Miller said it wasn’t illegal, the Democrat Congress had called for the targeting of conservatives, and the low level employees were simply carrying out liberal policy.

When the Republicans can learn to stop trying to please the liberal MSM and liberal politicians, and when they can once again support their conservative roots, they will win. A perfect example is amnesty; conservatives don’t want amnesty, they want the borders protected, and they want illegals sent back to their own countries. The Senate (both parties, in all their elitist intellectual glory) will pass amnesty, but the House (under the control of Republicans) is the last line of defense. The Republicans in the House will mistakenly agree to some sort of amnesty that prevents illegals from getting welfare, the right to vote, or even requires them to pay a fine and get on a list to citizenship; but the Republicans continually forget the lying bastards in the Democrat Party. Their word means nothing. Before the ink is dry on an amnesty bill; Harry Reid, Chuck Shummer, Pelosi, and Obama will be calling it “UNFAIR” that these cannot have the same rights as other Americans. So the rules that are set will be flushed down the crapper. The Republicans are concerned that the Hispanic vote goes 71% (2012)for Democrats (Hispanics making up 10% of the electorate in 2012), so they will legalize 13-17 million illegals and add millions of guaranteed votes for the Democrat Party. On the other hand 40% (27% of which are evangelical) of Americans are self proclaimed conservatives. According to The Hill poll in 2011, 45% of Tea Party conservatives would not vote for Romney in 2012. I don’t know what the final percentage was, but many conservatives did not vote.

The point is; why is the Republican Party concerned about making Hispanics happy, when they will not gain any votes; and at the same time continue to make conservatives unhappy, where they could gain much more votes. On top of that, the Democrat Party has bought and paid for the uneducated masses with free stuff. You can’t compete with the party of Santa Clause.

Posted by: DSP2195 at May 18, 2013 4:51 PM
Comment #366148

DSP really! Telling me “the dems did it to” as a response to my comment that “the dems did it to” was faulty logic.. What next, umbrellas are liberal plots to destroy the world?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 18, 2013 5:38 PM
Comment #366149

DSP,

“This is why you hide behind a computer screen…”

If this wasn’t so ironic it would be hysterical.

Seems to me Stphen is actually using his real name, and you are using something other.

So who’s really hiding behind the computer screen?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 18, 2013 6:11 PM
Comment #366150

Stephen does hide behind a computer screen Rocky, he still hasn’t answered for his stupid comment in the blue column about the drones and Hell Fire. He quotes liberal talking points from the KOS and Huff post. He thinks he knows about the military but only the BS written in the liberal BS rags. Stephen is an “Ideolog” and nothing more.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 18, 2013 6:26 PM
Comment #366151

“DSP really! Telling me “the dems did it to” as a response to my comment that “the dems did it to” was faulty logic.. What next, umbrellas are liberal plots to destroy the world?”

Posted by: j2t2 at May 18, 2013 5:38 PM

Actually it is “the Republicans did it too”. But I doubt you read the 192 comments to see what your side said. So the faulty logic is yours.

Rocky Marks; thanks for once again coming to the aid of Stephen Daugherty. Since he was a bullied little boy, it’s nice to know you are willing to stand up for him.

Regarding Stephen’s real name; I don’t know that it is his real name. He also claims to be very intelligent and we can see from his BS how true that one is. Since he also writes on the Kos; he must also be using his real name…. correct?

Posted by: DSP2195 at May 18, 2013 6:35 PM
Comment #366152

By the way Rocky, I accused Liberalism of being the enemy of America and all you saw was Stephen hiding behind his computer screen? Evidently, you do not dispute that liberalism is the enemy of America. I guess this is why the left is called the “low information crowd”; unable to think for themselves.

Posted by: DSP2195 at May 18, 2013 6:41 PM
Comment #366153

DSP,

I don’t think liberalism is the “enemy” of this country any more than conservatism is.

I think extremism is more the enemy than either.

KAP,

I find it interesting that conservatives ask a lot of questions, but rarely answer any themselves.

Oh, and BTW, Rocky is a nickname given to me by my Godmother when I was 4. It was registered as an aka with the Secret Service when a background check was done in 1996.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 18, 2013 7:10 PM
Comment #366154

Rock, You can ask any question you want, I will to the best of my ability answer, but I won’t, as Stephen does evade the question or give a beat around the bush answer. KAP is a nickname for me or Rev.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 18, 2013 8:58 PM
Comment #366157

KAP,

You call “liberalism the enemy of America” and expect what in response? That conservatism is the enemy of America?

Posted by: Rich at May 18, 2013 9:58 PM
Comment #366159

America was founded upon conservative ideals. The founding fathers considered government a necessary evil and big government to be the enemy of the people. Liberalism survives on big government and conservatism fights against big government. So who is the enemy of America.

It is big government that has created a monster in the IRS. The IRS is the strength of the left and the enemy of freedom. This week we have seen the IRS as a cancer to the American people. Politicians and news pundits on both sides have agreed the IRS has stepped way beyond their limits to target free people. Something must be done to this evil. And now it will be IRS agents who institute obamacare. Do we now live in a communist state?

Posted by: CasperWY at May 18, 2013 10:20 PM
Comment #366160

This question was asked before, with no response from the left. Name one liberal democrat run state or city that is not in trouble, not financially broken, and in which jobs are lost and unemployment record high?

If liberalism is not the enemy of America, why are liberal run states and cities in a state of disaster?

Posted by: CasperWY at May 18, 2013 10:24 PM
Comment #366162

People are beginning to wonder what is going on in the United States. Piers Morgan on a government of tyranny:

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/05/53227-cnns-morgan-hey-maybe-government-can-become-tyrannical-after-all

What does it mean when the most liberal of liberals like Piers Morgan and Bob Beckel, all of a sudden begin to question what is going on under the Obama administration; and yet liberals like Stephen Daugherty continue to defend Obama. I am beginning to think Stephen is not even American and does not live in America. Stephen Daugherty is probably a little Chinese hacker spouting obamaluv propaganda from the other side of the world.

Posted by: CasperWY at May 18, 2013 10:40 PM
Comment #366163

Jay Leno, a liberal; the interesting thing about his interview of Mitt Romney on the AP, IRS, and Benghazi scandals is the reaction from the audience:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/18/mitt_romney_talks_ap_irs_benghazi_on_tonight_show_with_leno_says_im_not_a_fan_of_the_president.html

Posted by: CasperWY at May 18, 2013 10:55 PM
Comment #366167

Rich, show me where I called liberalism the enemy of America.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 18, 2013 11:49 PM
Comment #366168
Actually it is “the Republicans did it too”. But I doubt you read the 192 comments to see what your side said. So the faulty logic is yours.

DSP, Actually it isn’t “the repubs did it to” when you tell me to look in the other column to see what the dems are saying it is in fact “the dems did it to” that you used as a response. You doubled down and lost when you used the same faulty logic as Weary twice my friend. My reading the comments is not relevant to the issue, surely you know that. I can see you are confused by this but trust me the logic fault is yours.


I think extremism is more the enemy than either.

And you are right Rocky. Our conservative friends posting the blathering we are seeing here are extremist. From Royal to Weary making mountains out of molehills with the marine comment to Casper and his revisionist and foolish comments is an extremist. Hell Royal actually wanted to see the Marine put an umbrella up Obama’s ass and KAP would have paid to to see it. Yet they get upset at the term teabagger.

The conservative movement has built so much mythology into the movement these Beck listening Faux watching Breitbart reading guys have no choice but to be extremist.


Posted by: j2t2 at May 19, 2013 12:07 AM
Comment #366169

I remember when a Republican was in trouble and the Democratics were hounding him in the press. He defended himself by saying the Democratics did it too. The Democratics responded by saying it was ok for them to do it, they didn’t hold themselves to the same standard Republicans did.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 19, 2013 4:51 AM
Comment #366170

My apology Rich (KAP). It was DSP2195.

Posted by: Rich at May 19, 2013 9:38 AM
Comment #366171

j2, During the Bush years liberals and progressives were all over him with foul remarks. Now you are offended by some of the remarks that are said of Obama. Whomever said that liberals are thin skined were right, and you j2 prove it. As far as what I said about royals comment it still would be “priceless.”

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 19, 2013 9:50 AM
Comment #366172

KAP,

“During the Bush years liberals and progressives were all over him with foul remarks…
Whomever said that liberals are thin skined were right…”

Funny, I distinctly remember being called a traitor because I didn’t support invading Iraq, and because I thought Bush in the flight suit looked as silly as Dukakis looked in the tank. We were told that Bush knew what he was doing, yet shortly it became painfully obvious that he didn’t. We were sold a bill of goods and that bill cost trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, and our agenda in the Middle East is no further down the road than it was when we started.

I also wonder why I am accused of wanting to take people’s guns away merely because I think owning one’s own arsenal is silly.

Perhaps it’s just because any one to the left of the far right fringe is merely “thin skinned”.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 19, 2013 11:27 AM
Comment #366173

I distinctly remember Democratics supporting the war in Iraq

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 19, 2013 1:20 PM
Comment #366174

Personnely Rocky I don’t give a rats behind what you thought of Bush. I didn’t really care for him either but like I say the Idiots democrats put up against him, well you get the drift. As far as guns go, whatever floats your boat, if a person wants to own his own arsenal that’s his perogative not mine as long as they are legal. Now as far as Obama goes IMO he’s in way over his head, incompetent, and should never have been elected, IMO Hilliary would have been the better choice at least she had 8 years of experience by her side. Obama has ZERO, none, natta, and it shows.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 19, 2013 1:24 PM
Comment #366175

KAP,

I didn’t vote for Obama, just as you say you didn’t vote for Bush.

That said, there has been no corner that Obama has turned where he hasn’t faced the scorched earth, take no prisoners policies of the right. He has had no help, no support, zip, zilch, nada, from the right.

The health care he pushed through is virtually identical to the health care suggested by the Republicans when Clinton was President instead of “Hillary-care”.

Limbaugh’s “operation chaos” helped get him elected in the first place, because Limbaugh didn’t want the Republicans to have to face Hillary in 2008.


Willie,

Perhaps you should spend less time on youtube, and more time out here in the real world. Saddam was contained in 1998. Clinton couldn’t invade Iraq because it was already seen that it would be “wagging the dog”.
Bush invaded Iraq because of Saddam’s nonexistent ties to al qaida, and thus to Sept. 11th, and because of Saddam’s nonexistent WMDs.

Because we had no plan beyond the fall of Baghdad, we had our ass handed to us for the next five years while Bush figured it out.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 19, 2013 1:53 PM
Comment #366176

My point is the hypocrisy of the Democratics to support the intervention, promote the existence of wmd’s, vilification of Hussein, voting in favor of going to war before the war started, and then turn it into a campaign issue and going against the war afterwards. Pure politics. Pure hypocrisy. Pure arrogance to believe intelligent Americans would fall for it. They didn’t. And then the name calling started. Democratics called him a war criminal. But George W. Bush took it with dignity and he was presidential. He didn’t cry like little babies the way you people are.

President Clinton stated in February 1998:

Iraq admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability, notably, 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production….

Rocky Marks stated May 19, 2013:

Bush invaded Iraq because of Saddam’s nonexistent ties to al qaida, and thus to Sept. 11th, and because of Saddam’s nonexistent WMDs.

(emphasis mine because we wouldn’t want anyone to ignore what they actually said to keep from being WRONG!)

Who do we want to believe, Bill Clinton or Rocky Marks? Either Bill Clinton is a liar, or Rocky Marks is a liar. Which is it, Rocky Marks?

And spending time on youtube is far more productive than watching American Idol and becoming a ignorant Democratic Idiot. (sorry idiots) Youtube gives both sides the opportunity of free speech, unlike the main stream media’s one-sided propaganda effort. Go ahead, keep shooting the messenger. It only makes you look more arrogant and thus proves the point of this post.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 19, 2013 3:18 PM
Comment #366177

“Perhaps you should spend less time on youtube, and more time out here in the real world. Saddam was contained in 1998. Clinton couldn’t invade Iraq because it was already seen that it would be “wagging the dog”.”

Rocky, you are correct that the perception would be “wag the dog”. What did Clinton do to put himself in that position? The affair with Monica L? A president has to be above reproach or they will always find themselves in that position. Richard Nixon put himself in that same place by lying. And now we find Obama the subject of many scandals. If it is proven that he had anything to do with Benghazi or the IRS targeting; his presidency is over. I believe he is already a lame duck just because of the allegations. This is going to cost the Democrats a very big price in 2014 and possibly 2016.

Regarding the WMD’s; Bush may have been the president, but the Democrats in Congress had access to the same intel, and they believed the same thing. Your comments about Bush and WMD’s are just liberal talking points.

Posted by: CasperWY at May 19, 2013 3:37 PM
Comment #366180

Rocky, I don’t listen to Rush so I don’t know you talking about. As far as H.C. maybe republicans took note of Mass., it’s still a work in progress after how many years. IMO Obama creatred his own problems with republicans with his my way or the highway attitude.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 19, 2013 3:53 PM
Comment #366182

Willie,

“And spending time on youtube is far more productive than watching American Idol and becoming a ignorant Democratic Idiot. (sorry idiots) Youtube gives both sides the opportunity of free speech, unlike the main stream media’s one-sided propaganda effort.”

As I spend little time on “reality TV I have never watched “American Idol”.
What youtube does is give a propagandist an outlet for highly edited videos to spread the lie. Much like Breitbart only with a larger, more gullible audience.

Casper,

“And now we find Obama the subject of many scandals. If it is proven that he had anything to do with Benghazi or the IRS targeting; his presidency is over.”

There’s that word “if” again. You guys out there on the fringes have been using that word like a 5 year old that just learned how to say fart.

“If” is a vast assumption, based on half-vast facts.

KAP,

Limbaugh claims to have an audience of over 20 million. Funny though, nobody on the right seems to actually listen to him.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 19, 2013 4:41 PM
Comment #366183

Rocky, here are alot of media idiots I don’t care to hear. Rush is one among many.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 19, 2013 5:09 PM
Comment #366185

KAP, So you agree this “they are gonna look good next to us” comment that has conservatives in a tizzy is much ado about nothing and conservatives are in fact pursuing any thing and everything, no matter how small no matter how foolish, they can against Obama because they are seeking revenge against Dems for what they have said about GWB. Or as I said earlier “You guys are actually down to using the “well the Dems did it to” logic to defend your foolishness.”
Are you sure this has nothing to do with Obama other than he is a Dem and the president and the target of this hatred and revenge by the conservative propaganda machine and it’s movement’s followers? It seems to me Phx8’s point about “uppity” may be, at the least, adding fuel to the fire of conservative hatred. I mean if you actually want to see a president of our country impaled upon an umbrella, perhaps this hatred of yours and the other conservatives posting here is more than just revenge hatred.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 19, 2013 5:20 PM
Comment #366186

If democrats and republicans spent as much time working as they did bickering I doubt we would even have a debt/recession/unemployment/healthcare/drugwar issue.

Posted by: B. A. James Kennedy at May 19, 2013 5:34 PM
Comment #366187

“Because we had no plan beyond the fall of Baghdad, we had our ass handed to us for the next five years while Bush figured it out.”

The Bush administration didn’t have a plan because they didn’t think that they needed one. They expected that we would be hailed as liberating heroes. They failed to realize that half the country actually supported Saddam. Our view of Saddam was not shared by the Sunnis.

The same dynamics are now operating in Syria. In a recent in-depth analysis on NPR about the civil war in Syria, it is apparent that we need to tread carefully there. Assad has much more support than one would garner from main stream news reports. How could anyone support that guy? Yet, they do to a surprising degree, particularly the middle class and business community. Further, the Free Syrian Army has been losing considerable popular support in the areas that it controls due to its abusive tactics. It is also become a magnet for foreign Jihad fighters.

The cautious approach of the Obama administration in Syria reflects the reality of that civil war. Perhaps we have learned a lesson from Iraq.

Posted by: Rich at May 19, 2013 6:51 PM
Comment #366189

j2, I personnelly don’t give a rats behind if you liberal democrats and republicans go to fists. I’ll sit back and laugh at you both. It is a democrat president that screwed up this time, God knows Bush screwed up to. So the next time there is a republican in the W.H. you liberals can cry and complain all you want because I don’t care who is in the W.H. someone is going to bitch. No I don’t use that you did it excuse if I don’t like the idiot in chief no matter who he is I’ll tell you.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 19, 2013 7:03 PM
Comment #366192

How do you know, Rocky Marks, if YouTube is a propagandist machine, if you don’t watch it? And how do you know Breitbart is the same if you don’t read it? Are you making assumptions? Are you being ignorant of both because you don’t want to hear an opposing position?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 19, 2013 8:36 PM
Comment #366194

“Casper,..

There’s that word “if” again. You guys out there on the fringes have been using that word like a 5 year old that just learned how to say fart.

“If” is a vast assumption, based on half-vast facts.”


Rocky Marks, so you don’t believe Obama has anything to worry about?

“How do you know, Rocky Marks, if YouTube is a propagandist machine, if you don’t watch it? And how do you know Breitbart is the same if you don’t read it? Are you making assumptions? Are you being ignorant of both because you don’t want to hear an opposing position?”

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 19, 2013 8:36 PM

LOL

Posted by: CasperWY at May 19, 2013 9:26 PM
Comment #366202

Willie,

Whether you believe it or not I do watch the videos you link to on youtube, and even Breitbart.

I hear the overproduced soundtracks and see the hyper-drama that the producers hope will change my mind.

You choose to believe this, I choose not to.

I have worked in Hollywood, I already know how this works.

Casper,

Is Obama in trouble?

You and your buddies seem to think so, but we’ve been hearing “ifs” for 8 months now.

You guys have cried wolf so many times, I think I will wait until I actually see one.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 19, 2013 11:15 PM
Comment #366204

Rocky Marks, you would make a good Democrat politician…you never answered the question. You continued to talk about my side. I’ll ask again, since you seem to be having trouble understanding.

Rocky Marks, so you don’t believe Obama has anything to worry about?

Posted by: CasperWY at May 19, 2013 11:43 PM
Comment #366205
As I spend little time on “reality TV I have never watched “American Idol”.
Says Rocky Marks
How do you know, Rocky Marks, if YouTube is a propagandist machine, if you don’t watch it?
Says Weary Willie
Whether you believe it or not I do watch the videos you link to on youtube, and even Breitbart.
Says Rocky Marks

So you do watch reality TV!

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 20, 2013 1:14 AM
Comment #366206

Casper,

“Rocky Marks, so you don’t believe Obama has anything to worry about?”

I don’t really know Casper, do you believe that the World Trade Center was brought down with explosives?

Wilie does, he saw it on a youtube video.

Rocky


Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 20, 2013 1:29 AM
Comment #366231

Willie,

“So you do watch reality TV”

Perhaps your reality. The real world doesn’t come with a soundtrack.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 20, 2013 9:26 AM
Comment #366234

Stephen

YOU are the one ragging about people “dwelling on stupid ****,” so I simply gave examples that they are not alone.
You dwell on Bush trying to remain calm while at the same time preaching to us how great it is that Obama is not a renegade cowboy who over reacts.
You dwell on Bush for flying over a disaster site, something plenty of other politicians do all the time, but you praise Obama for his photo ops with the parents of dead kids and the gov of NJ.

“You know, you guys go after Obama for having a golf game every other week…”

No, I don’t. No matter what party the President is a part of, I do not condemn them for taking a break every now and again.

“Again: Grow up. Stop acting like schoolyard bullies.”

Spare me your PC BS. Why is it your people have to scream ‘bully,’ ‘racist’ and other crap when you are unwilling to look at facts and face the truth? When somebody shows you to be wrong or to be a hypocrite, they are not ‘bullying’ you.

Face it, you dwell on stupid **** just as much as anyone else, so stop pretending your petty **** is somehow more justified.

Posted by: kctim at May 20, 2013 10:40 AM
Comment #366241

Is this your “reality”, Rocky Marks?
Is this what makes you stare, open-mouthed and drooling, at the tv?


NBC News Admits ‘Error’ In Editing George Zimmerman’s 911 Call, Apologizes

Is this what makes up your “informed” opinion?


MSNBC caught redhanded smearing Romney as out of touch by SELECTIVELY editing video

How about this?


MSNBC Criticized For Editing Of Newtown Gun Hearing (VIDEO)

Or this?


Unreal: MSNBC edits clip of man with gun at Obama rally to support racism narrative

Or this?


MSNBC Airs Highly-Edited 2002 Video of Bush Saying ‘I’m Not That Concerned About Bin Laden’

What about this, Rocky Marks?


NBC NEWS DECEPTIVELY EDITS PAUL RYAN

Is this your “truth”?


MSNBC edits audio again

I could go ON..


MSNBC Edits Obama Dodging Question ‘Is Hillary to Blame for Benghazi?’

and on…


MSNBC’s Schultz ‘Regrets’ Deceptive Edit, Racism Charge Against Perry

and on…


MSNBC edits out Lindsey Graham joke

Here’s a whole page dedicated to your so-called “reality”.


MSNBC controversies
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It’s not just NBS either!


cbs edits


Search “

ABC EDITS PALIN
” and see your “reality” there!

You and your Democratics would do yourselves a favor by broadening your horizons in what you call your “reality”. You’ve been hoodwinked into believing your god and your government, if they’re not both the same to you, is beyond reproach.

I can understand why you think the government is infallable when I take into account you think you belong to the government.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 20, 2013 12:59 PM
Comment #366242

Willie,

“You and your Democratics would do yourselves a favor by broadening your horizons in what you call your “reality”.”

So what you’re saying is that we should all take a trip up bulls**t mountain, er… Fox News?
Fox is well known for it’s selective editing, but of course that’s what makes it so “fair and balanced”.

Funny, but you don’t mention them in you screed.

You assume that I get my “news” from the mainstream media. I don’t.

I can only assume that you believe that Fox and youtube are a source of accurate information, and if this is the case, I can see where you get your alternative reality.

It actually explains a lot.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 20, 2013 2:41 PM
Comment #366245

I’m leaving it up to you to demonstrate what you think is a bias at Fox News or Breitbart. Go ahead. Take the same amount of time and find the same amount of false editing to show bias at Fox or Breitbart. It took me about 10 minutes to find, edit, format, and post my latest comment.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 20, 2013 4:36 PM
Comment #366246

Weary Willie-
First, sight unseen, there are edits, and then there are edits. Second, even if all are misleading, the edits on the Benghazi e-mails deceptively emphasized State Department interests, among other talking points.

We can deal with whatever edits the sources you talk about involve as necessary, but I would bring up one in particular: Bush saying he wasn’t that concerned about Bin Laden anymore. That was the end of my post-9/11 honeymoon with the guy, for one simple reason: my belief is that when you have somebody like Bin Laden or Mullah Omar, it’s foolish to believe that just because the chips are down for them now, that they can’t make a comeback, or that their survival and freedom won’t embolden the enemy.

And really, would you quit it with the “Democratics” thing? You ask why people get put out when they talk about the Democrat Party quite a while back. Well, it’s simple, it’s bad English, and the party is the Democratic Party. Now, why do we call Republicans Republicans, then? It’s pretty simple, because it’s not good English to call them Republics, while republican is a perfectly good description of somebody who believes in the republic as a form of government. Meanwhile, democrat serves the same function.

Like your Umbrella Schtick, it’s a false controversy that you drum up simply because you don’t want to conform to even common sense wisdom that invalidates some sort of immature namecalling on your part. It doesn’t occur to you that really there isn’t any consistence behind the arguments besides their purpose.

I also distinctly remember supporting the Iraq war, when it was first started, because I’d bought into Colin Powell’s presentation. I wasn’t happy to find out how quickly the evidence fell apart. People can begin or end support for various reasons. It’s a cheap kind of consistency that ignores changes in information and circumstances.

And, the fact is, we found nothing. There wasn’t a problem to solve, no matter what Bill Clinton said five years before that fact! That’s the thing: folks like you are obsessed with finding inconsistent statements, even as you put huge amounts of pressure to get people to agree with you in that time, and with those, you claim you must have been right, or not that wrong, simply because others weren’t contradicting you then.

But we found nothing. Saddam was playing a con game, doing his best to look like he was still a big man. Now, Democrats in the Clinton administration might have made the same mistake in terms of the intelligence, but they did not take the same actions, based on that intelligence. Clinton kept to containment, Bush pushed for a war.

You were wrong with company, but the difference is, you took that wrong idea as the grounds to go to war.

As for YouTube? There’s no one filter, there’s every possible filter and bias you could think of. YouTube lets people broadcast their points of view, free from having to live up to standards of journalism, scientific accuracy, even sanity. I mean, you ever read the YouTube videos that Jared Lee Loughner uploaded?

YouTube is a forum, not a remedy for bias.

CasperWY-
Oh, I’m in such a state of despair.

Republicans think that scandals are automatic popularity-killers, but what they don’t realize is that how you deal with a scandal is what’s important. Bush tried to stonewall things, so he looked like somebody with something to hide. The Obama Administration, while not a gusher of information, has managed it’s response properly, giving the public the right reassurances that things are being dealt with.

Republicans might say a given scandal goes all the way to the top, but they don’t prove it, and don’t think they’re obligated to. They assume that everybody thinks the way they don about the world, with their assumptions, and that those who disagree are simply either crazy, or deliberately resisting the truth.

DSP2195-
You don’t have to imagine it, I’ve made explicit reference to it. But hiding behind a computer screen?

No. I’ll grant you it’s easier for somebody like me to interact socially when everybody’s at an equal disadvantage, but I like being social outside of it, too.

As for intelligence, I don’t see the point of not using it if you got it. If you know something, and you think it could be related, use it. I think it’s an odd kind of political correctness to have to dumb down your thoughts for everybody’s consumption. A little care, and I think most people understand, and are glad for the fresh perspective.

As for the immigration debate? There’s the fantasy, in which we magically get the logistical support to deport MILLIONS of people from the country, and then there’s the recognition that (to mix metaphors) humpty dumpty can’t be put back together again, and it’s time to clear the decks of the wreckage of the old policy. As for this notion of securing the border, in a free country like ours, with borders among the longest in the world with any country, there’s always going to be illegal immigrants. The question is, are we coddling the people who create the demand for low wage workers that brings them over.

As for the political ramifications to that? It’s not the Democrats fault that we responded to the stated concerns of the Latino Community rather than projecting xenophobic bile their direction.

I think the thought of most Republicans is that they don’t want to make what looks like a long time bad situation worse. They want a light at the end of the demographic tunnel.

By the way, it is my real name. I thought of posting under some pseudonym, as I did on boards before that, but the thought of using a screen name like I usually employed to do serious political commentary just struck me as silly.

As for accusing liberalism of being the enemy of America?

Give me a break. Your politics just seem to be that immature. You want this nice, clean little narrative where you can ride in with a white hat and blow away the black-hatted villains. Rush likes to sell that bull****, too, because it lets his listeners overlook just how obnoxious and unsympathetic their rhetoric has become to outside ears.

Rich KAPitan-
Look, mister, what exactly are you expecting drones to intervene with? I mean, the question is, what sort of weapon are you bringing to a fight, and how does that weapon behave when you fire it? A high explosive missile is not going to discern between friend and foe. The person running that thing has to do that. On a black and white screen. From thousands of feet up.

If your mission is to protect your people, the fact that the very ordinance you are bringing into the fight to help them might hurt them is a consideration, especially if you want to win in more than just name only.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 20, 2013 4:41 PM
Comment #366248

Stephen, As I said in the Blue column your military stupidity is astounding. You need to get some facts before you comment on anything military. There are many types of weapons that can be fitted to the drones a simple google search will tell you that. Please explain how a drone took out Alwalaki in Kuwait without to much colateral damage? Look you so called know it all I was in the military and could tell you with certainty that there are weapons that can take out targets with exceptional accuracy. I don’t suppose you heard of laser guided missles.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 20, 2013 5:05 PM
Comment #366249

Sorry that was Yemen not Kuwait

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 20, 2013 5:10 PM
Comment #366250

KAP,
I’ve read all of Stephen’s comments about weaponry. I’ve read your comments. Stephen wins. He’s not always right. He did make at least one or two mistakes. But generally, his comments are right on.

You, on the other hand, know next to nothing. You weren’t an officer. Did you even handle a weapon? I doubt it. Nothing in your comments suggests the slightest expertise in weaponry. Nothing. Personally, your comments indicate to me that your expertise was limited to pushing a mop, or maybe driving a forklift- under supervision, of course.

I was an officer, certified for nuclear, conventional, and chemical warfare. I was an expert marksmen. And I can say with some assurance that, when it comes to assessing weaponry, Stephen would be a far, far better source of information, simploy due to his ability to use the web, than you will ever be with your seat-of-the-pants baloney.

Posted by: phx8 at May 20, 2013 5:21 PM
Comment #366252

phx8, I may not have been an officer but I can assure you that I did handle weapons and munitions used by the USN. Also phx8 from simple google searchs on the drone I have found that Stephen is quite ignorant of the drone and it’s weaponry as well as you must be. You can defend Stephen if you want but that would make you just as ignorant. You may have been an Officer but that dosen’t make you intelligent, I’ve served under some fairly stupid Officers who had a hard time tying their shoes from the way you defend Stephen you must be that type, alot of book learning but no common sence. As I said a simple google search proved Stephen very ignorant of the capabilities odf drones as well as you.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 20, 2013 5:52 PM
Comment #366253

Weary, MSNBC edited out a joke about Graham from the Morning Joe show and you are using it as some kind of proof that “they do it to”? What you don’t seem to get is the links you have provided are from opinion shows not from news shows. The difference between Faux Cable News and MSNBC is Faux uses it’s news shows as opinion shows. So lets try apples to apples for some comparison that would lead one to believe “they do it to”.


http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/10/27/30-reasons-why-fox-news-is-not-legit/156164

Posted by: j2t2 at May 20, 2013 6:10 PM
Comment #366254

You’re in denial, j2t2.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 20, 2013 6:34 PM
Comment #366255

Willie,

It’s just as I thought. You wouldn’t have excepted anything from me either.

However I did enjoy reading about Imus being fired for calling the Rutgers women’s basketball team “nappy headed hoes”, and Michael Savage being fired for telling a caller “he hoped he got aids and died”.

These guys had just way too much class for MSNBC.

Frankly Willie your total omniscience act is wearing just a bit thin.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 20, 2013 6:56 PM
Comment #366257

Rocky Marks, for all your BS, you cannot say whether the scandals will hurt Obama or not. You’re a panty-waist and cannot bring yourself to make a commitment, can you?

At least Stephen Daugherty still kisses Obama‘s ass and stands in complete support of him. Stephen doesn’t think the scandals will have any effect on Obama.

Stephen even gave a link showing the scandals had no effect on Obama. Of course Stephen should have gone to the source of the link, instead of TMP and then he would have learned the truth about the poll. But if a man want to be ignorant (Stephen) then let him be ignorant; right Stephen?

Http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/05/19/rel6a.pdf

I don’t see anything in this poll that helps the BHO.

Posted by: CasperWY at May 20, 2013 9:24 PM
Comment #366258

Casper,

“Rocky Marks, for all your BS, you cannot say whether the scandals will hurt Obama or not. You’re a panty-waist and cannot bring yourself to make a commitment, can you?”

You don’t know squat. You have no idea how this might turn out, yet your overwhelming bais won’t let it rest.

There is no commitment to be made, and being insulting only makes you appear shallow.

How are things up there on the peaks of bullsh*t mountain?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at May 20, 2013 9:34 PM
Comment #366259

The interesting thing about the Ted Turner Polls is that you have to dig deep to find the truth. Ted Turner…is he politically biased??? Duh…

“What is your overall opinion of the Internal Revenue Service, also known as the IRS…65% unfavorable”

“As you may know, the IRS targeted conservative political groups for greater scrutiny of their applications for tax-exempt status. How important an issue do you think this is to the nation…85% very important to somewhat important.” (but what kind of a stupid question is this anyway)

“Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you think that the actions of the IRS were acceptable or unacceptable?….71% unacceptable”

“Do you think the Republicans in Congress are overreacting to this matter or are they reacting appropriately?…54% reacting properly”

“As you may know, in September, terrorists attacked the U.S. consulate in Libya and killed the U.S. ambassador to that country and three other U.S. citizens. Based on what you have read or heard, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the Obama administration has handled this matter in the past few months?..53% dissatisfied”

This one is real interesting:

“As you may know, immediately after the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya, some Obama administration officials made inaccurate public statements about that incident. Which of the following statements comes closer to your view: Those statements reflected what the Obama
administration believed at the time had occurred
based on the unclassified information available…50% and this is down from the 56% on 12/2012.”

So less people believe Obama is telling the truth now than last December.

“Thinking specifically about the inaccurate statements made by the Obama administration and not about the initial attack which occurred in Libya, how important an issue do you think this is to the nation…84% very to somewhat important”

“Do you think the U.S. government could or could not have prevented the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya?…59% think could have and this is up from 48% in November.”

So as the truth comes out, more people question the government.

“Do you think the Republicans in Congress are overreacting to this matter or are they reacting appropriately?…59% believe reacting appropriately.”

Stephen, if you go on and read the AP scandal, you will find the same percentages.

And once again, we find the sources of the poll to be biased:

“Among the entire sample, 33% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 43% described themselves as Independents or members of another party”

According to Rassmussen Polls taken in September of 2012, “Republicans outnumber Democrats by a record 4.3 percent”. So wouldn’t that require a CNN/ORC poll to at least be equal in their polling of people?

http://www.examiner.com/article/republicans-outnumber-democrats-by-a-record-4-3-percent

Posted by: CasperWY at May 20, 2013 10:05 PM
Comment #366260

Weary, Really! That is the best you can do, refuse to respond to my comment and then claim I am in denial! I kinda feel like “Joe Bauers” talking to you guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs

Posted by: j2t2 at May 20, 2013 10:08 PM
Comment #366261

While Rocky Marks expresses outrage at my comments, we have these comments by a Democratic Senator:

“While many Americans were tuned into news coverage of the massive damage from tornadoes ravaging the state of Oklahoma, Rhode Island Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse took to the Senate floor to rail against his Republican colleagues for denying the theory of anthropogenic global warming.

Whitehouse spent 15 minutes chastising GOP senators and justified his remarks by alluding to states that seek federal assistance in the wake of natural disasters.”


http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/20/democratic-senator-goes-on-anti-gop-rant-over-climate-change-as-tornadoes-hit-oklahoma/#ixzz2TtB4hWtN

Once again, never waste a crisis (The Rahm Emanuel Theorem)

Wouldn’t you like to be a fly on the wall of the WH situation room when the tornadoes hit Oklahoma. Comments like “This will take the heat off us for a few days” or “The press will be taking about tornadoes instead of scandals”. It’s really sad that I would even think the inhabitants of the WH could be saying such things; but Obama has shown us that he is capable of this.

Posted by: CasperWY at May 20, 2013 10:16 PM
Comment #366268


Brondo! Ha, that was funny!

I was reading that feelbad article you pointed me to by MediaMatters. It was tough reading it, but it boiled down to the same thing as your SPLC report.

MediaMatters prints a piece saying how they’re offended that someone would be talking about something and saying something they disagree with, therefore it’s not news and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

Seriously? I mean do you seriously expect me to think that since Fox news is talking about a story put out by another online magazine they should not be considered credible?

That’s arrogance!

WAAA! They’re not parroting what I think they should say! WAAA! They should be taken off the air!
WAAA! They’re not towing the line! They’re not credible!
WAAA!

Democratics think there should only be one side of a story, and if it’s not their side of the story there shouldn’t be a story at all! Not everyone thinks like you guys do. Those who don’t couldn’t give a damn except when it starts pushing them around. It’s when Democratics start expecting others to think like they do and punishing those who don’t think like they do is when they start pushing back.

Guess what? There starting to push back. You’re going to have to get used to it because I don’t think your name-calling and threats and lies are going to work much longer.


Stephen Daugherty,

..,but I would bring up one in particular: Bush saying he wasn’t that concerned about Bin Laden anymore.

I got one thing to say about that.

Bin Laden is dead! How’s that working out for us now? Sure, Obama wanted everyone to think his Al Quada would die with him, but it didn’t, did it? Sure, Obama manufactured a story and put an innocent guy in jail to try to make it fly, but it didn’t pan out for him, did it? I’ll bet Obama wouldn’t have done anything to Bin Laden until someone said it would look good for his re-election campaign. Light Bulb!

I also distinctly remember supporting the Iraq war, when it was first started, because I’d bought into Colin Powell’s presentation.

Guess what, Stephen Daugherty, so did most of your party. Your talking points/support came from your party. It’s when the Democratics figured out it could be a good campaign slogan to say the war is lost is when, like a good Democratic, your support changed. By the way, they did find wmd’s in Iraq. It didn’t look good for your talking points so it was ignored.

As for YouTube? There’s no one filter, there’s every possible filter and bias you could think of.
Then how in the asterisks can you guys say YouTube is bias? YouTube is the epitome of a remedy for bias, but since you guys know there are things on there you think people shouldn’t see, it must be bias, and worthless, and has no credibility, right?

What arrogance!

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 20, 2013 11:38 PM
Comment #366303

What’s the matter Stephen? Cat got your tongue? I exposed your “Poll” link almost 20 hours ago. Don’t you want to defend your poll numbers?

I take your silence as meaning you were wrong…once again.

Posted by: CasperWY at May 21, 2013 5:55 PM
Comment #366312
MediaMatters prints a piece saying how they’re offended that someone would be talking about something and saying something they disagree with, therefore it’s not news and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

The fact is Weary Faux has seriously lowered the bar on journalistic standards. Your misrepresentation of what was said by media matters shows us just how easy it is for Faux to fool gullible viewers with propaganda posing as news. It is as dangerous to our country as is the government stifling the press.

Seriously? I mean do you seriously expect me to think that since Fox news is talking about a story put out by another online magazine they should not be considered credible?

Seriously Weary, The story in question was false. Faux didn’t check facts they went with the story. Is that the journalistic standard conservatives want to defend? Is it one of the conservative principles they like to brag about?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/01/30/timeline-of-a-smear/137882

WAAA! They’re not parroting what I think they should say! WAAA! They should be taken off the air! WAAA! They’re not towing the line! They’re not credible! WAAA!

Weary you are making me feel like Joe Bauers once again. You spout nonsense like this ” Youtube gives both sides the opportunity of free speech, unlike the main stream media’s one-sided propaganda effort ” yet you defend Faux for their incredible lack of journalistic ethics! All because they tell you what you want to hear, even if it is false! You claim the entire MSM is propaganda but Faux is just telling it like it is! That is something to WAA about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxoiOJ280LI

Democratics think there should only be one side of a story, and if it’s not their side of the story there shouldn’t be a story at all!

Weary such nonsense you turn to, just to defend Faux. This hysterics is as laughable as it is untrue.


Guess what? There starting to push back. You’re going to have to get used to it because I don’t think your name-calling and threats and lies are going to work much longer.

They are starting to push back! Where have you been this past 30 years Weary? You act as if Limbaugh and his ilk as well as Faux just came into being. Faux have led the assault on journalistic integrity for years. Limbaugh, Hannity and the other morons spouting the propaganda of the conservative movement has dumbed down many otherwise decent Americans. To the point they defend the propaganda outlets with jibberish such as yours.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 21, 2013 8:52 PM
Comment #366325

What I would like to know is who is the “idiot in charge” on here that actually let Willie come on as an “editor”. This site has turned to crap and it’s really too bad. It once had some great contributors and responders, but the numbers have definitely fallen. Too bad! I would actually like to see David come back in and contribute to the status of the dialogue !

Posted by: jane doe at May 22, 2013 12:12 AM
Comment #366328

I’ll tell you one thing, jane doe. You sure as hell wasn’t one of the “great contributors”. Maybe you should take the place of David R. Remer and start personally insulting people again. Would that make WatchBlog acceptable to you? It looks like you’ve already started.

Maybe if we just have an autopost routine that posts pro-democratic drivel and was able to throw in an insult whenever a conservative posted you would be right at home. You could throw in your snide little one-liners to make yourself happy.

If you were able to contribute anything constructive you would probably find WatchBlog in it’s current form enlightening and entertaining. I do. I’m also not the same person I was years ago so put your blind partisan hatred aside and post something constructive for a change.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 22, 2013 1:34 AM
Comment #366331

I had no use to David Remer and was glad to see him venture out on his own; which by the way failed. It’s hard to have a dialog with yourself.

Remer booted anyone he disagreed with off WB. Stephen Daugherty has tried his best to fill Remer’s shoes; but just don’t have enough upstairs to do it.

Jane Doe is nothing more than a political troll, who shows up every month or two and spouts liberal talking points and hatred, links to leftist sites and then disappears.

Posted by: DSP2195 at May 22, 2013 9:15 AM
Comment #366336
The difference between Faux Cable News and MSNBC is Faux uses it’s news shows as opinion shows.

Such BS j2t2…

I mean, this whole thread is one big pile of poo all over the place, from the subject of the article to the comments from ‘both sides’…

But seriously, j2t2, you actually believe that MSNBC does not use it’s news shows as opinion shows?

Despite all of the evidence to the contrary? Despite on air real time accepting of WH talking points?

You truly have drank the koolaid…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies

Critics of MSNBC have accused the network of having a bias favoring the political left and the Democratic Party, which MSNBC President Phil Griffin has confirmed to be true.
A poll conducted by Farleigh Dickinson University concluded that MSNBC viewers are among the most uninformed. Dan Cassino, analyst for the PublicMind poll said “People who tune into ideological media are motivated to hear their side of the debate and so you can have someone who watches MSNBC be so used to hearing about protests coming from the right that they automatically believe that Occupy is mostly a Republican protest.”
Posted by: Rhinehold at May 22, 2013 12:49 PM
Comment #366459

A comedian friend of mine (Mike MacRae) made this comment today… (He is *NOT* a Republican in any way).

I hate to say it, but Fox News does serve a purpose when you want to learn about certain news stories. Like, say, for example, when two black dudes cut someone’s head off in broad daylight in the name of Allah. #MSNBCkindaquiet
Posted by: Rhinehold at May 23, 2013 1:35 PM
Comment #366552

Rhinehold trying to compare MSNBC with Faux when it comes to actual news programs is laughable. Your claim that “Critics of MSNBC have accused the network of having a bias favoring the political left and the Democratic Party, which MSNBC President Phil Griffin has confirmed to be true.” doesn’t mention the news programs but instead the network as a whole. I don’t disagree that most of the opinion shows on MSNBC are lefties.

Find something on the MSNBC new programs that can compare to the abuses of journalism that we see from Faux almost daily them we can talk.


http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=9739

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