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Sandy Hook Conspiracy ... Thoughts??

After being in Australia for a month and during the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the media coverage was much different from here in the United States. Upon my return, I learned of the surfacing of a “hoax” accusation, saying that the entire shooting was set up in order for Obama to press gun control.

We all know that the media channels make mistakes, and reporters are misinformed in regards to events and occurrences. The video released documenting all of the misinformation has gone viral and is pointing at our own government for setting it up with "crisis actors," and that the entire thing was a production.

In a forum with quality debate, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on this Sandy Hook Conspiracy. Do you believe that the media made mistakes and provided misinformation without knowing the facts, or do you have real suspicions that this was set up in order to work against the NRA to tighten gun control and alter our Second Amendment?

Posted by MichaelMears at January 15, 2013 6:18 PM
Comments
Comment #360635

Government conspiracy? No.

Media intentionally providing misinformation? Without a doubt.

Posted by: kctim at January 18, 2013 12:32 PM
Comment #360638

Much like the NRA’s vile disgusting lying attack on the Obama children the Sandy Hook conspiracy is the vile disgusting lying attempts of extremist to take the focus off the shootings. Anyone with any character will disown this sick twisted conspiracy theory and insist upon a retraction and apology from the NRA for their misleading hateful attacks on the Obama children. It disgraces our nation on the world stage.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 18, 2013 1:28 PM
Comment #360640

J2
I can’t argue against your point about the conspiracy theory being an attempt to take focus off the shootings, it could very well have some merit. IMO though, the few people believing the conspiracy are the same who find “evidence” of a “false flag” in just about everything.
I seriously doubt, and hope, that this will last as long as other conspiracies like JFK, RFK, 9-11, the 1% etc…

The faux outrage over the NRA ad isn’t even worth comment. Sorry.

Posted by: kctim at January 18, 2013 2:14 PM
Comment #360642

When did all this conspiracy crap start? I haven’t heard of it until now. And I watch the CBS news just about every night. You’d think they’d be all over something like this. If for no other reason than to protect their fair haired boy up there in the White House.
I found the video and watched it. Looks to me like this guy is some kook that believes there’s a conspiracy behind everything. He most likely believes that Bush was behind the 911 attacks. Clinton was behind the Oklahoma City bombing. And that Oswald didn’t act alone. Although I find that somewhat hard to believe myself.
Although there were some inconsistencies in the reporting of what happened and what actually happened I saw nothing on the video that would convince me that there is some kind of conspiracy. If fact I have to question inconsistencies in what the guy making the video said and what I saw.
One was his claim that an assault weapon was taken from the car. The weapon I saw in the video was either a hunting rifle or a shotgun. Not an ‘assault’ weapon.
He also claimed that the folks being interviewed were actors. They might have been. And they could just as well have been his actors. The guy that made that video is just another conspiracy kook. But them guys are dangerous.
I wouldn’t put much past Obama in his effort to get his agenda pasted. But I don’t think he’d stoop that low. At least I sure hope not.
The media on the other hand, I wouldn’t put anything past. That bunch of scum sucking scavengers will knowingly misrepresent facts to further their agenda.

j2
When did the babies that died at Sandy Hook become ‘Obama’s children’? I didn’t know he had 22 youngins. Or that 20 of them were White.
And just what makes you think that the NRA was behind the video? Your hatred of them because they defend the rights of Americans to own guns? And don’t come to me with some left wing conspiracy from some so called objective liberal.

Posted by: Ron Brown at January 18, 2013 2:42 PM
Comment #360646

How stupid does anybody have to be to believe in a conspiracy theory like this? Our President would not think of doing this and even if he did, he could not find people to carry it out.

We should not debate this. There is no evidence for it at all. Just because some pinheads can think it up doesn’t mean it has any merit.

We’ve got idiot birthers, idiot truthers, what are the idiots who believe in this theory to be called?

Posted by: C&J at January 18, 2013 4:11 PM
Comment #360649
When did the babies that died at Sandy Hook become ‘Obama’s children’? I didn’t know he had 22 youngins. Or that 20 of them were White. And just what makes you think that the NRA was behind the video? Your hatred of them because they defend the rights of Americans to own guns? And don’t come to me with some left wing conspiracy from some so called objective liberal.


Ron you know not of what you speak. Watch this 35 second ad and then comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8crdWLgfDk

Then you can hear it from a conservative..

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/chris-christie-slams-nra-obama-daughters-ad-86365.html

Posted by: j2t2 at January 18, 2013 7:50 PM
Comment #360657

Thanks for the links j2. I don’t watch a whole lot of TV and ain’t seen this ad. While I support the NRA’s work for the most part, they stepped way over the line here.
Take all the shots ya want to a any politician. Take shots at their spouses when they talk about political matters. Blast away at either all you want. And I’ll defend your right to do so. But the youngins are off limits. They’re the only ones that have no say about their parent[s] getting into politics.
Everyone in the President’s family needs and gets protection from the president right down to the youngest child. The president doesn’t get a choice in this. He can’t tell the Secret Service not to protect his youngins. They get protection. That’s just the way it is.
Whoever came up with the idea of this ad would want their kids protected if they were President. What makes them think Obama is any different? He loves his daughters like any other father.
The NRA needs to pull this fiasco off the air and issue a public apology to the President, his wife, and most of all to his daughters.

Posted by: Ron Brown at January 19, 2013 12:05 AM
Comment #360686
How stupid does anybody have to be to believe in a conspiracy theory like this?

Stupid has no bounds C&J, In honor of gun appreciation day here is a video that proves this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/gun-fails-second-amendment-rights-gone-wrong_n_2490579.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Posted by: j2t2 at January 19, 2013 8:34 PM
Comment #360688

I’ve seen this crap before and while it’s kinda funny most of it is staged j2. Even at that only a drunk or very stupid person would pull tricks like that. Just like only a drunk or very stupid person would drive their car over 100 mph anywhere but a race track. Both are equally dangerous. And more folks are killed in car wrecks because of stupid idiots behind the wheel than by guns every years.
So maybe we ought to ban cars because of stupid drivers.

Posted by: Ron Brown at January 20, 2013 12:26 AM
Comment #360691

Ron Brown,

“Just like only a drunk or very stupid person would drive their car over 100 mph anywhere but a race track.”

Except for the fact that there are laws against drunk driving that are actually enforced, and the miscreants that break those laws vigorously prosecuted, you might have a point.
Drunk driving has dropped precipitously in the last few decades.

Interestingly enough, the idea that the school Obama’s girls go to is protected by “armed” guards is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

The school is run by Quakers. And we all know how the Quakers feel about guns.

Perhaps those at the NRA should have done their “do diligence” before putting forth such false claims just to make a political point.

It makes me wonder what else they are lying about.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 20, 2013 7:14 AM
Comment #360694

I have written a comment on this at this Website, and I state my opinion for the Dictators wanting to Disarm the American People and make them Defenseless and at the Mercy of Monsters who are not noted for having Mercy, because they are scheming WW3,

The comment is at the News Item on this Website that is Titled: New Mexican President Wants to Focus on Economy at http://www.watchblog.com/democrats/archives/008273.html#comments , and it begins with the words: There are several factors that will affect the Global Economy, which could also have an impact on what can be Diplomatically termed Security Concerns.

Posted by: Journalist at January 20, 2013 7:52 AM
Comment #360696

Journalist,

There is a vast difference between being honest, and being delusional.
The “dictators” you speak of haven’t taken away your right to spout your delusional hyperbole.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 20, 2013 8:15 AM
Comment #360703

I just found this on the Internet, and an Article Titled: Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart at http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-hoax-is-falling-apart .

I have not have much time to look at them, and a lengthy documentary Sandy Hook Cover-Up Video Presentation and Transcript at http://www.brendanhunt.com/ , and Sandy Hook 2nd Shooter Cover-Up at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W6b-voc-Ds , and People can make their form their own opinion.

It would be wrong to dismiss this comment as some type of Conspiracy Theory that is totally delusional, because People would be doing themselves and others a disservice.

Conspiracies have been going on for thousands of years, and why assume that they ended just because this is the 21st Century, and Many Americans with College Degrees believe that successive American Governments have covered up 9/11 http://www.911truth.org/ , and, http://www.ae911truth.org/ .

Compare the Beslan massacres Image Search on Google at http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&pq=beslan+massacre&cp=24&gs_id=2s&xhr=t&q=beslan+massacre+pictures&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41248874,d.dGY&biw=1067&bih=522&wrapid=tljp1358696849501046&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=qBH8UOLwF8rpkgWBxYC4Dw#um=1&hl=en&tbo=d&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=beslan+massacre+&oq=beslan+massacre+&gs_l=img.12..0l3j0i24l7.56980.56980.0.61271.1.1.0.0.0.0.245.245.2-1.1.0…0.0…1c.1.O4Xyg9ncsPU&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41248874,d.dGI&fp=f073818764547f89&biw=1067&bih=522 , which constitutes Real Evidence compared to the Sandy Hook Image Search on Google at http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=serp&pq=beslan+massacre+pictures&cp=12&gs_id=1e&xhr=t&q=sandy+hook+shooting&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1067&bih=522&wrapid=tljp1358697090120222&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=kRL8UK—B4WpkQX4jIHwBQ , and can anyone understand why People have their doubts.

This is especially because they know the Main Stream Media are Experience, Hardened, Liars with an Agenda, and everyone associated with Sandy Hook Elementary School matter seems to be overly unemotional.

Perhaps it is because, while they did hear sounds and other People’s stories, but they never personally experienced anything themselves, except for being at the School.

England finds Puppets who they pay good Money to, and Film in an Act of Bestiality and Pedophilia to ensure they remain their Puppets.

We know that Many Schools are overly Represented by the Left, and The Left have their Agenda, and some of them believe that the ends justify the means.

I am willing to be convinced that it really happened if I can have enough evidence, and I have only read this today, because I have been busy with trying to Prevent WW 3.

I have published comment to try to Prevent WW 3 on this Website with the Moniker of Journalist, The comment is at the News Item on this Website that is Titled: New Mexican President Wants to Focus on Economy at http://www.watchblog.com/democrats/archives/008273.html#comments , and People are encouraged to read them.

Posted by: Journalist at January 20, 2013 11:15 AM
Comment #360707

If People think that English Politicians and their Puppet Presidents of America are decent People who care about Children, then we should look at the following Video in this comment.

The first war against Iraq was in 1990 to 1991, and it was George Bush Senior who was President of America, and Bill Clinton took over in January 1993.

The Iraq sanctions began in August 1990, four days after stayed in force until May 2003 after Saddam Hussein’s being forced from power.

This means they remain in place during all the entire time of the Clinton Presidency, and Biden and Obama are Clintonites, as did the Clintonite Madeleine Albright who said the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it; Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was “worth it” wins Medal at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE .

The Video titled: “Paying The Price: Killing the Children of Iraq…” PART 1 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlO_fRAqMjQ , and rest of that 3 part Documentary can be found on the Internet.

Even though the First Iraq War ended in 1991, the reason that both the Republicans and Democrats kept the sanctions in place was because they planned a Second War on Iraq.

We know that if that one was based totally on a Lie, and they wanted a weaker Iraq to presumably conquer much more easily.

Anglo-America has done this in other places, and they have done this to the Serbian People, who were the most Innocent group from the Former Yugoslavia.

Anglo-America Deliberately Engineered the break up that Country and Malicious Slandered the Innocent Serbs as being responsible for that, even they were responsible, foe those Crimes against the Peace, which is a War Crime.

I have watched the Videos Titled: Connecticut Shooting: Sandy Hook Elementary Teacher Kaitlin Roig Protected at , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX8V_ZWwgb4 , and Newtown Elementary School Shooter Details , at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA8Wr3ggORA , 27 killed in Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting (Newton, Conneticut) , at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W44NfUREX_c , and Tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School: Story of Fallen Teacher in Newtown at , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_Oz6MKMgg , and Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters (A CLOSE LOOK) at , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_fI0hm1dqY .

I do not like looking at blood, but the Media normally love to show it if it is there, and perhaps no one died in this matter.

I have not seen everything on this matter, and the Unscrupulous can always make up things after the event to cover up, but has anyone got any real Photos or Videos that show even one drop of blood, or real emotions, and not Hollywood emotions.

As I said, I have been busy with trying to Prevent WW 3, and I did not realize that this possible reality, or this possible hoax might be used to dispense with the American Constitution and Bill of Rights, because anyone who seeks answers to questions in this matter seems to want to be denied their Right to Free Speech with fake Righteous Indignation.

What we need to know for a Fact is the American Government and Actors and Actresses could make this up to push their Secret Agenda.

The American Government spent 750 Billion Dollars on Stimulus (Bribe) Money, and perhaps they have another 750 Billion Dollars to give 750,000 American Soldiers 1 Million Dollars each to forget the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and make America a Military Dictatorship.

I hope that all Americans understand why the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Journalist at January 20, 2013 2:01 PM
Comment #360716

Conspiracy theories always start with the idea that people keep their mouths shut, that they’re good at telling lies, that government intimidation can keep secrets silent forever. Then they come back around with the notion that if people really believed them, really put their trust in them, folks would then have the political power to get the proof for the belief they already have.

How conveeeeenient.

Conspiracy theories are parasites on human reasoning. They exploit specific fallacies, including arguments from ignorance and personal disbelief in order to claim things that require extraordinary proof to be considered true.

Now I won’t say they aren’t conspiracy, but almost none of them work the way a conspiracy theory would have you believe they work. A lot of the time, the real, troubling organizing of political power occurs right under your nose, out in public, and rather than hide it, people are conditioned to reject news about it because the source is part of the liberal media, or something like that.

There is an actual organization shipping out industry friendly legislation for the states that compromise your rights. It’s called ALEC. And rather than have legislatures work to fit legislation to the individual state’s needs and desires, its fit to the agenda of dozens of companies who are part of ALEC.

This is no mere theory, this is fact. You have to realize that part of the purpose of conspiracy theory, part of the reason it gets put out there, is so that politicians can have you paranoid about one thing, but not wary about what you really should be concerned about. It sort of concentrates a person’s attention, their anger, their frustration, all that stuff, in one corner of their attention, so when it comes to the laws and problems that actually affect them, they’re too busy trying to slay this dragon over here, to actually deal with the real world problem whose solution might put a campaign contributor’s bottom line in danger.

Hence conspiracy theories about Democrats and Liberals taking away guns, about socialists and those liberal scientists trying to crash the economy with global climate change theory. You have interests which make a hell of a lot of money out of unhealthy behavior, so when the evidence comes back that says what they do is not good for the public, or its interests, they come back with a conspiracy theory that makes somebody else the bad guy so they can keep on making the profits they want to make.

The question is, how gullible are you? How much proof has to be out there before you jump to a particular conclusion? They’ve primed you all this time to believe things; nowadays, they just have to push the button. If you really want to be free, you have to stop letting things be that simple.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at January 21, 2013 7:41 AM
Comment #360720

We know that Conspiracies are a part of Human Nature, because otherwise the Criminal Code would not describe it, neither would People go to Court over being part of a Conspiracy.

Conspiracy Fact always start with the full knowledge that People will keep their mouths shut; that they are good at telling lies, and that a Combination of Rewards for remaining Silent and Punishment for Speaking is the best chance to go undetected.

There is no 100 % guarantee that the Conspirators will get away with their Crime, but the possibility of not getting away with a Crime has never deterred those who Actually committed a Crime, and so they will worry about the Consequences afterwards if they get caught.

With Government Conspiracies, they know they will never suffer any Consequences for their Crimes, but those who Speak Up against them are at risk, even though they are speaking the truth, and so they will find many cowards who Deliberately Lie and Cover Up to be the Federal American Government’s Apologists.

With the 9/11 Conspiracy, the Government knows that Americans will Cover Up, because they cannot put those on Trial and pay Afghanistan and Iraq Compensation, because America is Bankrupt, and even if America was not Bankrupt, then they would not want to pay 1 cent of Compensation, and How Convenient.

Any Honest Politician who would Prosecute the Corrupt Ones and put them behind bars where they belong, would Never get Elected in the First Place, and we saw this with Ron Paul.

This is because a Majority of American Voters want the World to think that the American Federal Government is pure even though they know for a Fact that they are Rotten and Corrupt to the Core.

However, regardless of what the Rest of The World thinks of the American Federal Government, they are not prepared to pay 1 cent in Compensation, and How Convenient.

The Main Stream Media knows all these things, and if they want a Comfortable Lifestyle, then they know that they must Cover Up and Lie and Deceive the American People.

The Corrupt Alliance between the Main Stream Media and the Government is a Conspiracy against the American People, because we can see where the Lack of Public Scrutiny and Accountability has brought America, and even Foreign Countries who are Victims of England and its Puppet Colony of America.

Apologists for Conspirators are parasites on human reasoning, because they exploit specific fallacies, including arguments from ignorance and deliberate deception of their Gullible Fellow Americans, in order to claim things which require Privileged or Secret Information before they could have proof not believe everything they hear from the Federal American Government or their Puppet Main Stream Media.

There could be some Deceivers who say that the American Federal Government creates Conspiracy Theories, because they want us to be paranoid, because their Genuine Concern is that we are not be Completely Stupid, because they would not want us to Reverence them, by thinking that the Light of Purity emanates from their Anal Orifices.

History shows that some Teachers have engaged in Pedophilia with their Students, and perhaps I guess dead Teachers, dead Students, and dead People who are not Teachers or Students, but are Involved cannot tell their side of the Story.

This allows for the possibility that some Teachers, Students, and others may be guilty or innocent, but they may have wanted to go Public, which would not have been Convenient, but if they were dead, then How Convenient.

I have asked if there are any Videos or Photos of Sandy Hook Elementary School real or alleged tragedy, which shows even one drop of blood, except for Hollywood or Photoshop Techniques.

I would have thought that it would have been only Logical for those who wanted to Disarm the American People in order to commit Genocide on them, and start WW3 to have shown much blood to justify their Scheme.

Perhaps if blood was shown in this instance, then People would want to keep their Guns to Protect America, but they have their excuse of ‘respecting’ the dead, which they do not do anyway, but they should start respecting the living.

I was asked just how much proof needs to be available before I form a carefully considered opinion or belief.

I have found that a Person has Knowledge if they truly know and understand that the Price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance, and that the God of the Bible will Always be found to be Correct and True, even though every Human Being may be found to be a Liar.

Those who want to be Honest and Knowledgeable, will know and tell others that things are this True, and this Correct.

Posted by: Journalist at January 21, 2013 11:15 AM
Comment #360726

“Much like the NRA’s vile disgusting lying attack on the Obama children “

J2 I hope you were equally offended when the President surrounded himself with child props during his gun control announcements.

As for conspiracy theories well any big story will have those. Don’t know about down under but U.S. conspiracy theories seem to be real popular over in Europe. I remember one a while back while in France- GWB was a member of secret sect, Skull and Bones, and therefore had commited the Unpardonable Sin and the U.S. was being led by the devil himself. Explains a lot I guess.


Posted by: George at January 21, 2013 2:19 PM
Comment #360728

Rocky
I somehow doubt that the Secret Service cares how the Quakers feel about guns. If a President’s youngins are going there then there will be guns on their campus. If the Quakers don’t like that then they can tell the President that he needs to send his kids to another school.
But the Secret Service is going to protect them youngins. And have guns wherever they are to do it if it becomes necessary.
The homework that the NRA forgot to do is find out that the President has no choice in the matter of his daughters having Secret Service protection. They are charged with the protection of the President and his family. And they do a remarkably good job of it.
Maybe to placate those that don’t think that the President’s youngins should have protection we should call the Secret Service off. Then what happens when one of them is kidnapped by one of our enemies in order to try to force the president to knuckle to what they want?
Any father who loves his youngins will to whatever it takes to keep them from harm. That can have some very bad consequences when that father is the President of the most powerful nation on earth.

Posted by: Ron Brown at January 21, 2013 3:02 PM
Comment #360760

There is a Fact that if we put All of the Possibilities of why or how something occurred, then one of those Possibilities just has to be Correct.

I have watched Video on the Sandy Hook Elementary School, using the search words of Sandy Hook School Fraud, or Sandy Hook School Hoax, and I know what the Main Stream Media has been saying.

We know that there are mixed opinions and what appear to be presented as Discrepancies, and this has polarized opinions, and at this stage of my investigations and deliberations, I will not offer my genuine opinion on this matter.

The Fact that Human Beings are involved; then we must take Human Nature and Human History into Consideration.

The problem is that sometimes I hear from one source that Alan Lanza, the Alleged perpetrator, was upset with his mother who wanted him to see a Psychiatrist with the possibility of him being Institutionalized, and then I hear from another source that this has not been confirmed.

We know that Human History shows that at times the Police will Lie, and the Rodney King matter is only one of Many Examples of this.

We all know that the Price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance, and part of that Vigilance is to have a Civilized Debate, where All the Different Possibilities are considered, based on the known Facts.

We know that there are People who are Claiming that a Tragedy has occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School, and that People are Claiming to have seen the bodies of victims.

On the other end of the Spectrum, we know that other People have heard these Claims, and they believe that it was All Staged.

I consider myself to be a Good Judge of Human Character, and these People who answers based on the Evidence that is available so far, are genuine in their concerns, opinions, and motives, and I do not detect any insensitivity nor any desire to deliberately create a controversy, but they have irreconcilable thoughts, and are asking questions and seeking answers.

We must not discount the possibility that both versions are true, but that certain things are being concealed from the Public for certain valid reasons, and these would be because of valid reasons in order to capture the real perpetrators.

I even heard one Video say that the parents have not seen the bodies of their children, even during the funeral process, and I am assuming that there were funerals, either real or fake, and I think that People should use their Free Speech in a sensitive manner, and the Advice of Trained Trauma Councilors should be used if in Fact some of the children were kidnapped by Pedophiles.

I that is true, then that is shocking in one way, because some of the parents may one day think that their children were kidnapped for Pedophilia, and if this is true, then we can see why the Police would Lie under these circumstances to save the parents from overly grieving.

There are some Videos that suggest that some of the parents are really Actors and Actresses, and they show no emotion and are really laughing and smiling and having a good time immediately after the alleged tragedy.

If this is true, then perhaps they are not really Actors or Actresses, but that their children were not victims, or they were given Secret Medication and Hypnosis for the Interviews in order that the Nation may not overly grieve.

This could mean that they would have to go though the hoax of a fake funeral, and this means that the actual number of victims is fewer that what the Main Stream Media is suggesting.

It could also be that any or all of the Adults who are claimed to have been killed, may be fewer, and that Alan Lanza may either be a hero who was on the scene, or may be a patsy, and he could be either dead or alive.

While the Federal Government may not be in any way Responsible for this, we must know that they will never let a Crisis go to waste, and that is by the American Democrats own Admission.

We know that America is Bankrupt, and that America needs Free Factory Workers in Armament Factories to start WW 3, and this is purpose of the FEMA Death Camps.

The Dictators of America must firstly Disarm the American People in a Step by Step Gradual Process, in order to Commit Genocide on them and to start WW 3.

It has been suggested that Non Pedophile Americans who are in Favor of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights will have to have Psychiatric Evaluations as part of ObamaCare, where no Human Being can pass that Test, but the Test will be Selective, letting some sinners pass, and other sinners assigned to the FEMA Death Camps.

“There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20).

We know that this is the Saul Alinsky Method, and we further know that the ‘Democrats’ are ardent followers of this Unprincipled Communist Tyrannical Dictator.

We know that there has to be all the Elements of Means, Motive, and Opportunity for a Crime, and this must be kept in Mind by those Contributing to the Public Debate in this Matter that has several Unanswered Questions.

I want to say that I have not as yet come to any definite opinions, because I have not had time to look at enough Videos and read enough material from all sides of the Public Debate.

We need to keep in mind that it is impossible to have 100 % Agreement on almost anything in a Democratic Society, and to the prevent the Majority making Nazi Jews out of the Minority, the Founding Fathers gave America its Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Journalist at January 22, 2013 7:56 AM
Comment #360764

I realized that a sentence that I know I would have like to have better written, because it might be ambiguous.

I meant to write Hitler’s Jews, and the corrected sentence is: We need to keep in mind that it is impossible to have 100 % Agreement on almost anything in a Democratic Society, and to the prevent the Majority making Hitler’s Jews out of the Minority, the Founding Fathers gave America its Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Journalist at January 22, 2013 10:30 AM
Comment #360787

Journalist,

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your_comprehensive_answer_to_every_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory/

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 22, 2013 8:31 PM
Comment #360807

The problem with conspiracy theories is that there’s always this waiting for Godot aspect going on. Yes, the truth is out there. It’s ALWAYS out there. But with conspiracy theories, proof, evidence, are always over the next hill, behind the next door. The menu always looks good, but the meal never arrives when its ordered.

And in my experience, conspirators never operate as flawlessly and intelligently as conspiracy theories need them to be. I mean, it’s like that joke from David Mamet’s Heist, when a guy is asked about how he plans his robberies. He says, “I think of a guy smarter than me, and ask ‘what would he do?’”

But of course, you can always imagine somebody smarter than you, always imagine somebody who doesn’t mistakes, coverups that never blow up. Conspiracy theorists reassure themselves that all these conspiracies that were found out were just the junior league stuff.

In truth, it’s what normally happens. It’s like the old adage says, three people can keep a secret if two are dead. And to answer that one allegation, it should be plain that the reason that there is a such charge as “conspiracy to A”, is because people talk, people make mistakes, people get caught talking on surveillance tapes and whatnot making their plans.

I find it much more plausible to believe in human fallibility, in the ability of people to screw up big, complex plans and get caught, than to believe that somehow, in these big plots people engage in, everybody cooperates, nobody rolls over, anybody who does gets taken out by assassins who never get caught or killed. I know we see such plots in movies or books, but they exist there mainly because in a movie or a book, you can dream a dream where you don’t need to set up the real world prerequisites for whatever result you wish to claim. You can have shootouts which in our world would make national news on a regular basis with nobody noticing. You can have men flying around fake cities in a bat costume, and people will think its thursday.

And you can have giant conspiracies where nobody ever screws up, where all potential loose ends are wrapped up until the heroes come to blow things wide open.

Conspiracy theory is what happens when the tropes of fiction are used to analyze the real world, where the plausible sounding story gets substituted for the provable, real world story.

It’s what happens when folks wanting to look like the heroes start designing the narrative. The energy companies design narrative about global warming, so those who opposed doing something about it look like the saviors of the economy and our freedom, while the scientists become the communist bad guys. The cigarette companies design their narrative so their side looks like the side supported by science, and the other side looks like the people who just want to take away all your freedoms.

So on and so forth. They’re playing on people’s gullibility in a way designed to make people feel savvy, even while the folks who are doing inappropriate things are made to look like heroes.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at January 23, 2013 8:58 AM
Comment #360808

People know that Conspiracies by the American Government are real, and we only have look at what the American Governments did with the Genocide of million the Naive Americans, or the Slavery of the Black Americans, but this does not make everything bad that happens in America a Federal Government Conspiracy.

I understand why there are those, who want to be on the Record as saying that Only the Left Wing American Federal Governments are Always the Purity of the Purities, because they Only Agree for Evil Wars to murder People with a President or Emperor who is of the Dark Socialist Left.

Posted by: Journalist at January 23, 2013 1:15 PM
Comment #360809

Many Americans want to Preserve the American Constitution, and the Bill of the Rights, because understand History, and they Trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Founding Fathers, who knew History and who understood Human Nature.

The Video that is Titled Jasenovac - Cruelest Death Camp in WW2 (English subs) (WARNING — NOT CENSORED), should be able to be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=513VOo5P63Y&feature=related.

Posted by: Journalist at January 23, 2013 1:46 PM
Comment #360819

Just what have you been smoking Journalist? And do plan on sharing it with the rest of us?

Posted by: Ron Brown at January 23, 2013 5:27 PM
Comment #360841

I need to remind People that while I consider myself to be an amateur investigative journalist; I Strictly follow the Journalistic Code of Ethics of Only writing Proven Facts, and of Only Stating Genuinely Held Opinions, and I go looking for the News behind the News, in order to Contribute to the Public Debate.

It is fitting in a Democracy that People agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable, and I do not expect perfection from anyone on this, because I cannot provide perfection on this matter either at times, and so I would never expect others to do what I cannot do.

This is because no Human Being today always does what is right, or always thinks on what is right; even those who earnestly always tried like Saint Paul, and was a in fact fine example most of the time.

“So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin” (Romans 7: 21-25).

We know that some People do not even try to do what is right most of the time, and they even refuse to acknowledge that they are sinners or show any remorse, and some these ones have been in jail for their crimes, or are presently spending time in jail.

I am not speaking here about People who do not go to a Christian Church, but I am referring to violent, malicious, Schemers of Evil against their Fellow Americans that are unacceptable.

“The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time” (Genesis 6:5).

We know that Psychiatrists can devise Tests that no Human Being can pass, because All Humans are sinners, but the Test allows Democrat Voters to pass the Test and Republican Voters to go to the FEMA Death Camps.

As a Journalist, it is only proper to make it known that Many Americans do not seek Revenge, but they have said that they will Defend Truth, Justice, and the American Way from All Enemies, both Foreign and Domestic.

“Don’t take revenge, dear friends. Instead, let God’s anger take care of it. After all, Scripture says, “I alone have the right to take revenge. I will pay back, says the Lord” (Romans 12:19).

I Seriously Advise Aspiring American Dictators and those with a Dictatorial Disposition in America, not to Arouse the American People, because they may not receive a State Funeral for the Unnecessary trouble they Schemed in an Evil Way against the Peaceful, Hardworking, and Law Abiding American People.

There could be some Obama‘Care’ Psychiatrists who do not just take the Money and do what is right, might find that that the Law of Cause and Effect, might lead them to consider at prepaid funeral plans, if discounts become available.

Psychiatrists who work for a Dictatorial America, and who do a lot of moving around from one place to another may be at risk, and this is why an immediate copy of evaluations should be given to their victims, with the right to appeal any findings with a Private Psychiatrist, because the People may keep a register of Obama‘Care’ Psychiatrists who may have deprived them of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness for Future Reference.

I have already said that we need to keep in mind that it is impossible to have 100 % Agreement on anything in a Democratic Society.

I have thought long and hard to trying to find even one thing that everyone could agree on; and I thought of People wanting to eat enough food every day, and then I realized that there are People who have gone on hunger strikes, there are those who fast occasionally, and then there are the dieters and the overeaters.

With this situation regarding the impossibility of ever getting 100 % Agreement on anything, and then what is to be done under these circumstances?

Should People used the Despicable Saul Alinsky Tactics of calling others who do not agree with them as being insane or smoking something.

We know of Saul Alinsky’s Unprincipled Tactics of throwing mud, and knowing that some of it will stick, was used by those whose Responsibility it was to provide Proper Unbiased Journalism for why there was no blood, sweat, or tears associated with anything to do with a Tragedy like Sandy Hook, as there was with known Legitimate tragedies.

The Fact that the Media has a mess of covering this, then they have thrown mud at themselves in order to have Conspiracy Theories in order to accuse others of being insensitive or insane, so as make it easier to Disarm the American People in order to impose their Dark and Lunatic Left Military Dictatorship in America, and perhaps the Main Stream Media did this Deliberately.

If a Person does not agree with the Dark and Lunatic Left, then they are accused of being insane, and so this is the first step to rationalizing the Denial of Human Rights, and the setting up of a Military Dictatorship that is craved foe by the Dark and Lunatic Left, and now they want women to help them in setting up a Military Dictatorship in America.

This is why the Founding Fathers knew that the Price that Must Be Paid for Freedom and Liberty is Eternal Vigilance, and to prevent the Majority making Hitler’s Jews out of the Minority, the Founding Fathers gave America its Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

We all know that the Price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance, and part of that Vigilance is to have a Civilized Debate, where we know that there will not under any circumstances be 100 % by everyone in America, and accusing those who do not agree with of being insane is uncalled for, and it is not worthy of a Democratic Society.

This does not mean that there are not some unfortunate People who actually suffer from a mental illness, and they will always be able to acquire guns on the black market, and this is why People want to have the First and Second Amendments to the Constitution to protect their families and neighbors.

A Journalist should ask the question, such as was the motive to have women in the battlefield to deter Americans from defending themselves from an Evil and Tyrannical Leftist Dictatorship, because they think that Freedom and Liberty Loving People would be less likely to kill female soldiers in order to protect America, and their Fellow Americans.

There are many People who believe that the Right to Self Defense allows for protection from an aggressor of any gender.

We know that Facts are Facts, but even though Opinions are Genuinely Held, that in themselves do not make all of my Opinions correct, but it needs to be said that with the passage of time, a majority of my Opinions are found to be correct, but Facts are Facts.

This is because of the Unscrupulous People who Deliberately and Maliciously Spread Disinformation; and then there is the Cunning of the Evil Invisible Devil and his Invisible Demons, and then there is my own human fallibility.

This is why I have to write updates, and on some things it is better wait until much material is compiled, and sufficient time is allowed to form an Opinion for that, and I have not made up my mind yet on what really happened on 12/14/12 at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Americans are rightly seeking answers to why is there no blood, sweat, or tears, associated with a tragedy like Sandy Hook Elementary School real or alleged incident.

I want to say that I do not smoke anything, and neither would I encourage others to smoke anything, because I like Fresh air, and it would be a breath of fresh air if the Paid Journalists would do their Jobs, and ask the Proper Questions, and put Elected and Appointed Officials under Proper Scrutiny and Accountability.

Bloggers Force Reaction From MSM About Sandy Hook at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EKhb0eaoI&list=UURVno4GDsO4Fs2lLAHGKfkQ , elnine11- YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/user/elnine11 , Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan on CNN (FULL ORIGINAL) No Commercial at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-tsHlDviuA .

Posted by: Journalist at January 24, 2013 7:45 AM
Comment #360847

The problem with Investigative Journalism is that there is always the possibility of discovering one or more aspects aspect of what is going on.

Yes, the truth is out there, because it is always out there, and would it not be refreshing and comforting to discover that sometimes we hear the Truth with No Bribed Opinions.

However, with the Main Stream Media; the Fact that they Lie to the Public because they Bribed and Corrupt.

This is because they are covering up Conspiracies, along with proof and evidence, and this is why truth seekers keep searching until satisfying possibilities are provided.

Occasionally, like with the Watergate Scandal, there is success in finding the truth, because the truth is always out there.

There is always the possibility that Conspirators make some mistakes, because we know that Humans are fallible.

Those in Authority, can employ cunning Think Tanks to make their Many Evil Conspiracies difficult to prove.

However, even the Human Think Tanks or the Invisible Demonic Think Tanks are fallible, but the Demonic Think Tanks, while being fallible are far superior to the Human Think Tanks.

This is why the Clintons and the Clintonites always use the Demonic Think Tanks, and sometimes they become lax, because of Complacency or Incompetence like their handling of the Sandy Hook matter.

The Conspirators are playing on People’s Trust in a way designed to make People feel Relaxed and Comfortable, even while the Conspirators who are doing inappropriate things are made to look like heroes.

The Videos Titled Sandy Hook investigation update #11 No Crime Scene Evidence Markers at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAqYmODrVVk say that the parents have not seen the bodies of their children.

A Video in my other comment spoke of Quetzalcoatl the feathered serpent god that had children sacrificed every 52 years on the 12/14/12, to prevent the end of the World, which the Mayan Calendar said would be 12/21/12.

This might explain why the bodies were not shown, and one man could not have done Mayan Ritual Child sacrifice on his own; neither would those types of People have any remorse over that.

The Videos: President Nixon’s First Watergate Speech (April 30, 1973) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=765wvJWdaHw , and President Richard Nixon - Address Announcing Resignation at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEOGJJ7UKFM shows us that President Nixon promises to do everything in his power, to find who is responsible for Watergate, and then says in the other Video that it goes against every fiber of his being to do what is both Legal and Constitutional.

I have not yet formed an opinion as to what happened at Sandy Hook last year, but I said that if every Possibility that fits the Facts is presented, then one of them just has to be right, and I want to examine more of other People’s thoughts on this matter.

Posted by: Journalist at January 24, 2013 11:45 AM
Comment #360849

With very few exceptions, because different People may have come from another town days later to attend the Connecticut Elementary School Shooting: Memorial Service, but this should have added to the question of has anyone seen any genuine mass tears, or any tear that is not a psyched up tear by any age group.

The Article on Sacrifice in Maya culture, which involved the extraction of children’s hearts with the hand at Wikipedia should be able to be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrifice_in_Maya_culture .

I have seen common drawings of the hearts, and even a heart in a hand, on the Google Image Search for Sandy Hook at http://www.google.com.au/search?q=sandy+hook&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=aYEBUdjMAuWNiAfpl4D4BQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=626 , and People might want to record it in case it disappears, but the drawings of hearts is not unusual, but the drawing of a heart in the middle of a hand is the first time I can remember seeing something like that.

The Video Titled: Connecticut Elementary School Shooting: Memorial Service, should be able to be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ow1OlcDzCE , and I did not watch much of it, but there are other Videos on this.

I have not yet formed an opinion, as to what did happen at Sandy Hook last year, but I said that if every Possibility that fits the Facts is presented, then one of them just has to be right, and I want to examine more of other People’s thoughts on this matter.

Posted by: Journalist at January 24, 2013 2:01 PM
Comment #360850

There is an interesting Video that is Titled: Sandy Hook Inconsistencies and Discrepancies Shows That This Event Was A Complete Hoax at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3sJC0WfAI .

I meant to mention the Owl, because it was mentioned at another Video, in one of my other comments, but this Video is interesting, because of the many armored ambulances, which would prevent anyone gaining access to any bodies in those armored ambulances.

Posted by: Journalist at January 24, 2013 2:47 PM
Comment #360861

Journalist,

“I have not yet formed an opinion, as to what did happen at Sandy Hook last year…”

Yeah, you have.

You have bought into this conspiracy thing hook, line, and sinker. You have condemned the government again, and again in your writing, just here in this thread alone.

Are we to assume that everything that is posted on “youtube” is real?
I mean you seem to put way too much credence in what is essentially a web entertainment venue.

Have you yourself actually talked to anyone from Sandy Hook, or are you merely basing your “facts” on someone else’s opinion?

From what I have read in your posts, and believe me they are hard to read, you are basing your opinion on another’s opinion.

Sorry pal, those ain’t facts.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 24, 2013 7:20 PM
Comment #360864

I performed the arduous task of watching the last video you posted a link to, and I can honestly say it is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. First, whoever edited it should be taken out and beaten, if he fancies himself an editor he should look for a different job, pretty quick. Second, the points that they SEEM to be trying to make are nonsensical. For example, the first one about the owl was beyond stupid. The second point that the hospital that the reporters were at said that they had treated 3 patients suggests nothing than either other patients when to other hospitals in the area (normal procedure as to not overwhelm hospital staffs, something the reporter repeated several times) or that those who were pronounced dead at the scene needed no medical treatment so they wouldn’t be taken to a hospital, would they? And just because people have blood on them doesn’t mean that a) they need medical treatment from a hospital and b) the blood is even theirs. Ever hear of blood splatter? Then it shows an ambulance identifying it as a ‘red crescent’ ambulance, but the logo is NOT the red crescent logo, not even close. It is a C with writing in it. The video just goes on from there, repeating what it thinks are ‘key inconsistencies’ that are really nothing at all… Nevermind the audio of No Agenda (a show I enjoy listening to but know not to take too seriously most of the time).

All in all, this is was an absurd waste of my time, except for the fact that I can ignore any post you make going forward as lacking anything resembling critical thought or understand of Occam’s Razor.

Posted by: Rhinehold at January 24, 2013 7:57 PM
Comment #360880

Wouldn’t it be a shame if, while we were trying to discredit the ever increasing number of “whackos” that claim conspiracy, we woke up one morning to find we had no rights left?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 25, 2013 4:03 AM
Comment #360883

Willie, what if they gave a conspiracy and not one person beleived it?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 25, 2013 6:40 AM
Comment #360884

I want to say that I have not as yet formed an opinion, as to what did happen at Sandy Hook last year.

It was only to be expected by those who can no longer justify using the Saul Alinsky Method to Ridiculing those with a different opinion with being insane, and they would then use Malicious Slander.

We know that there is no excuse to call someone insane, just because they have a different opinion, but there is a reason if it is a correct opinion.

This is why the ‘Progressives’ have ‘progressed’ to their other Unprincipled Alinsky Tactic of Malicious Slander.

I was accused of lying in one of my statements, and I refer to the Honest Statement I made that I have not as yet made up my mind on what happened at Sandy Hook last year.

I need to remind People that while I consider myself to be an amateur investigative journalist; I Strictly follow the Journalistic Code of Ethics of Only writing Proven Facts, and of Only Stating Genuinely Held Opinions, and I go looking for the News behind the News, in order to Contribute to the Public Debate.

I need more time to gather information, because I do not want to make an assessment until the Facts become available.

I can understand that some Honest People conclude that the Main Stream Media will Deliberately Lie to the People, even worse than President Nixon and President Clinton.

We know that in a Democracy, the Media should be the Fourth Estate, and the Fourth Estate and Many Americans believe it has long ago become one of the Fifth Columns against the American People.

The victims are owed Proper Journalism on this, and I might be able to get back on my research on Sandy Hook in a few days, because it there is much to ponder on, it is just that I need to concentrate more on trying to Prevent a Global Conflict.

I did not even once accuse the Government of being responsible, but I only said that the Democrats are on record as saying that they never let a Crisis go to waste.

However others like Alex Jones at http://www.infowars.com/ and the Constitution Party Candidate for Nevada Governor in 2014, David Lory VanderBeek have accused the Obama Administration of Complicity: GLENN BECK TO DEBUNK SANDY HOOK at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO4FeYsS7QU .

The only things that I buy into are Truths and Facts, and good opinions.

Are we to assume that everything that is posted on the Main Stream Media is true?

The Websites and Videos can be called educational, but there is no hint of them being entertaining as one Person wrote.

Has my unreasonable Critic actually talked to anyone from Sandy Hook, or are you merely basing statements on that of the Discredited Main Stream Media.

What People should have read in my comments, even if they are hard to read, is that I have not as yet formed an opinion, and yes I do want to read other People’s Contribution to the Public Debate.

That Video that I mentioned was very informative, and I noticed a many things that are worthy of Public Debate, and one was that there were no survivors, which is a very low probability, considering that one Hospital claims to have taken 3 wounded.

The other thing that the Medical Examiner whose name is Carver, performed autopsies on the children that were unnecessary, as the cause of death would be obvious according to the Official Version.

Perhaps Doctor Carver knows that the Mayans would Carve the hearts of children that they sacrificed, and autopsies are Convenient if cuts and scars on bodies are needed, and they are excuses to parents and people at the funerals that they should not look at the bodies.

It could be that animal hearts to placed in the bodies, and they were sown up, and the excuse was that the hearts were looked at during the autopsies which were unnecessary under the Official Version of events.

I once heard what I thought was an automobile accident near a park where I was sitting, and I moved towards the sound, and I found nothing, and it perplexed me, and it was only days later that I realized that a prankster had played the sound up loudly that was in a home movie with a good audio sound system.

Perhaps the sound of the guns was only recordings that were played using a good audio sound system.

This would keep People away in a gun free zone that the Sandy Hook Elementary School was on that day.

Perhaps the children were given drugged candy, and later were given morphine so as not to make noise or to experience any pain.

I have not as yet formed an opinion, as to what did happen at Sandy Hook last year, but I said that if every Possibility that fits the Facts is presented, then one of them just has to be right, and I want to examine more of other People’s research on this matter.

I believed long before the Sandy Hook Tragedy, that either by Hook or Crook, the Clintonites want to Disarm the American People, and use an Independent Kosovo with their Camp Bondsteel Serbia’s Province to begin WW 3, at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/headlines.php .

Posted by: Journalist at January 25, 2013 7:19 AM
Comment #360892

Hey Rocky, do you mean like the one where those two, oh wait!, three buildings fell down and nobody heard it?

Or, how about that guy getting shot and nobody thought it was a coop d’état.

Then there’s the one where the lady got shot in the head but there’s no blood!

Let’s try to remember the one where a bunch of guns went over the border and started killing people, too!

It’s a good thing we’re such good patriotic Americans that we can’t believe such things could be made possible by our government. Imagine if we did believe some of these things possible! Why, it would shake our faith in our government, wouldn’t it?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 25, 2013 12:54 PM
Comment #360901
That Video that I mentioned was very informative, and I noticed a many things that are worthy of Public Debate, and one was that there were no survivors, which is a very low probability, considering that one Hospital claims to have taken 3 wounded.

Who claims that there were no survivors? Every report I have ever seen has said there were some injured who did not die…

The other thing that the Medical Examiner whose name is Carver, performed autopsies on the children that were unnecessary, as the cause of death would be obvious according to the Official Version.

Autopsies are legally required on all murder victims so that evidence can be obtained for the case. You’re an ‘amateur journalist’ and you don’t know this?

Posted by: Rhinehold at January 25, 2013 2:35 PM
Comment #360903

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-video-debunked_n_2487427.html

BTW, I find it hilarious that you left off the last word in Glen Beck’s link…

“GLENN BECK TO DEBUNK SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACIES

Meaning, he is going to debunk what you are suggesting…

Posted by: Rhinehold at January 25, 2013 2:45 PM
Comment #360930

We know that for a Crime to be committed, then needs to be the Means, the Opportunity, and the Motive.

On a Generic Basis, we can say that Every Adult that was at Sandy Hook Elementary School on 12/14/12 had or could have had the Means and the Opportunity, but obviously not all of them had the Motive on that day, or on any day.

Everyone at that Crime Scene should be suspected until they are given clearance, and the Video Titled: Undisputed Truth Will The Real Sandy Hook Shooters Please Stand Up at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El9YHFEagS8 says that the Police were on the Crime Scene, and they are of Adult age, and I used the word Adult now for the third time in this comment.

It is interesting that Lieutenant J Paul Vance did not want Americans using their First Amendment Rights to spread what he referred to as disinformation, but perhaps others could see it as information, or even aspects of interest.

I have not as yet formed an opinion, as to what did happen at Sandy Hook last year, but I said that if every Possibility that fits the Facts is presented, then one of them just has to be right, and I want to examine more of other People’s research on this matter.

Posted by: Journalist at January 25, 2013 11:16 PM
Comment #360935

The Video Titled Sandy Hook Truther Has Absolute Proof of Hoax (PROP) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4voo-nD1VY , makes s some very Valid points, which require answers, and his YouTube Channel is: Review Time Patna! #TeamWakeEmUp at http://www.youtube.com/user/ReviewManify?feature=watch .

I noticed what appears to be water on that particular automobile, and I just ask the question if it rained at Sandy Hook Elementary School on that day.

Posted by: Jounalist at January 26, 2013 6:47 AM
Comment #360936

A good Website with a Video that shows the Timeline for the Sandy Hook Tragedy is http://www.infowars.com/sandy-hook-massacre-timeline/ .

The Video interviews the Professor James Tracy who questions the Official Version of the Sandy Hook events.

Professor James Tracy has a Website that is called Memory Hole at http://memoryholeblog.com/ , and it covers this matter.

On that Website there is a link that gives the Timeline at Sandy Hook at http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-school-massacre-timeline/ , and I think we should know that a Proper Investigation would say that the Police had the Means and the Opportunity to murder those children.

However, did all of them, or a Special Squad, have the Motive not to like the Second Amendment to the Constitution, even as their Chief Lieutenant J Paul Vance did not want Americans using their First Amendment Rights, and said that a new thing was that this was discussed with the Federal Authorities to deny Americans their First Amendment Rights.

Posted by: Jounalist at January 26, 2013 6:50 AM
Comment #360941

Willie & Journalist,

All of this conspiracy theory stuff is just so much mental masturbation.
There is no hard evidence to uphold your claims so you make it up as you go along, and whine when you aren’t taken seriously.

IMHO, this is just more of the same debunked birther bullshit, merely on a different topic, in a poorly orchestrated attempt to discredit the administration.

Professor Tracy is a hack. He puts forth his hyperbole, and then hides behind his First Amendment right to do so.

The funny thing is that while virtually everybody around him is attempting to put as much distance as possible between them, nobody has made any attempt at all to take away his 1st Amendment right to make a fool of himself.

He has no facts, only fantasies, and speculation.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 26, 2013 1:00 PM
Comment #360942

Rocky Marks,

I witnessed the police officer get up in front of his microphone and threaten “anyone” who voices an opinion other than their official version on this matter with prosecution. Do you call that a conspiracy theory or do you call that a fact?

Why aren’t you up in arms about that type of language coming from a police officer, Rocky Marks? Is it you don’t care about the first amendment either? Are you of the opinion the constitution is just another goddamn piece of paper? Do you think the bill of rights is an outdated document?

It’s really a challenge to listen to Democratics constantly calling people who disagree with them “hacks” and “whackos” and “crackpots” in their poorly orchestrated attempt to discredit them. Can’t you guys think up some other descriptive words to use? It seems you’re stuck on those few.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 26, 2013 1:39 PM
Comment #360943

There are other Videos on this matter; Sandy Hook Shooting, Something is Amiss at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lk4qcOChHw , and Newtown Massacre…the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST; updates, by Jim Stone at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUcJy7p0kkA , and Sandy Hook Shooting Hoax – Morris at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30AFIidDzVE with his YouTube Channel at http://www.youtube.com/user/108morris108?feature=watch , and Must Watch: The U.S. Dollar Collapse Is Accelerating. By Gregory Mannarino at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0c8POzIR4 .

I have not as yet formed an overall opinion, except to say that I do not agree with every aspect of the Official Version, and of the Main Stream Media’s Version on what really happened at Sandy Hook last year, but if every Possibility that fits the Facts is presented, then one of them just has to be right, and I want to examine more of other People’s research on this matter.

A few says before President Eisenhower resigned from Office, he warned the American People concerning the Military-Industrial Complex, and how it would take away the First and Second Amendments to the Constitution; Founding Fathers Battle Gun Grabbers From the Grave at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx4xjxmPwQo&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=37 , and President Eisenhower full knowledge of the Conspiracies going on in America.

Posted by: Jpurnalist at January 26, 2013 2:46 PM
Comment #360954

I have a link for you to check out…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thought

If you are going to claim to be a ‘journalist’ just looking for ‘the truth’, please do yourself a favor and learn Critical Thought…

Because, everything you have posted shows you aren’t aware of what that is.

I even indulged and went to the link you posted for TeamWakeEmUp… *sigh* The only good thing I can say about the video at all is that he admitted when his point about the rust was debunked. Most conspiracy theorists (birthers, truthers, kennedy assassination, etc) won’t do that…

Posted by: Rhinehold at January 27, 2013 2:47 AM
Comment #360956

Why was Kennedy assassinated?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 27, 2013 4:29 AM
Comment #360960


OK Willie, I’ll bite, why was Kennedy assassinated?

“I witnessed the police officer get up in front of his microphone and threaten “anyone” who voices an opinion other than their official version on this matter with prosecution.”

Really, was anyone actually arrested and jailed? And if not, then how is this a violation of the 1st Amendment?

It seems that while you whine and bitch about labels, you have no problem with applying labels to other people.

Why is that Willie?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 27, 2013 11:33 AM
Comment #360963

Rocky Marks, do you think officers of the law are employed to make empty threats on national tv? How delusional can your thought process be to think that since no one has been persecuted yet then there is no threat?

Democratics are grasping at any straw to justify what happens in this country. Democratics go out of their way to browbeat anyone who disagrees with them and go so far as to make them apologize for expressing their opinion. It’s getting out of control!

Democratics are liars! Democratics have an agenda! Democratics are hell bent on destroying the U.S. Constitution while hiding behind it! Democratics want to control the people in this country and will go to any extreme to get their way!

Ignorant people need to pull their head out of the sand. They need to take a good, objective look at what is going on around them. They need to put in perspective all the minutia that mean very little in an of itself and relate it to the broader picture. Our freedom is being siphoned off day after day, year after year and stupid rational like yours, Rocky Marks,

Really, was anyone actually arrested and jailed? And if not, then how is this a violation of the 1st Amendment?

is why it’s allowed to happen.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 27, 2013 2:34 PM
Comment #360964

Willie,

“Our freedom is being siphoned off day after day, year after year and stupid rational like yours, Rocky Marks…”

Really?

So tell us, what freedoms have you actually lost today, this month, this year, last year?

What conspiracy du jour should we subscribe to to stop the bleeding?

I look at the posts on this thread and I don’t see much, if any, support for your position.

Are you and Journalist the lone voices to lead us out of the wilderness?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 27, 2013 2:52 PM
Comment #360966

Why is anyone debating this nonsense?

Posted by: Rich at January 27, 2013 11:16 PM
Comment #360970

OK, Rocky Marks. Here’s one that’s right up your alley.

DAVID MAMET: ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AN APPEAL TO THE IGNORANT

Writer and film director David Mamet has weighed in on the current gun control push, and what he sees as government overreach couched in an “assault weapons” ban that is actually “a political appeal to the ignorant.”

Are you going to read the article, Rocky Marks? Or are you going to just call the guy a kook or a nutjob or some other pejorative?

As for support for belief in the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, I don’t expect to find it here on a website dominated by Democratics that are looking and working toward to the destruction of those documents and the way of life they guarantee. I don’t expect any support from people who don’t know the meaning of the simple phrase “shall not be infringed”. I don’t expect support from anyone who would insist others apologize because they said something “offensive”. I don’t find a lot of Democratics on this site willing to pull their heads out of their partisan sand trap and be willing to let others live the way others see fit.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 28, 2013 1:11 AM
Comment #360971

We all Know that a few days before President Dwight Eisenhower resigned from Office, he warned the American People concerning the Military Industrial Complex, and how it would take away the First and Second Amendments to the Constitution; because President Eisenhower had full knowledge of some of the Evil Conspiracies going on in America.

President Dwight Eisenhower, knew American History and of the Genocide of 30 Million Native American Indians, and of the Slavery in America.

President Dwight Eisenhower knew that many American Administrations in History did become the Specialists in Genocide, and on this Dwight was Right, and this is why he warned the American People, because those who cannot learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

President Dwight Eisenhower who served the American People as a 2 term President, was the Supreme Allied Commander against Hitler’s Nazis who committed Genocide against the Jews, and he that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely and the Founding Father also knew this.

I guess some People with Dictatorial Cravings will say that General Eisenhower who masterminded the Allied Victory in WW 2, may have been insane, or was lying because Most America Politicians lie at times, or that he was a Conspiracy Theorist.

This type of behavior and attitude shows a deplorable lack of respect for other People, but especially for those who have earned respect, and if genuine, then it shows a total lack to judge between a Libertarian and a Dictator.

Accusing someone of a lack of Critical Thinking is a subtle way of Maliciously Slandering them by subtly accusing them of being Stupid, or the other possibility is that some People are Deliberate Liars because they are Evil, and it would not only be highly disrespectful to say this of President Eisenhower or of the Founding Fathers, but it would be perilously incorrect to say it, because Dwight was Right.

One Person claims to have I indulged and went to the link I posted for TeamWakeEmUp, and claims the point about the rust was debunked, but did not provide any link.

I think that most People would have wanted that Person to provide proof for those who they consider to be simple folks, but we know that some People Lie and do not provide any links for what they say.

They are not simple folks, because You can fool some of the People all of the time, and all of the People some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the People all of the time.

The ‘Progressives’ and the ‘Liberals’ keep saying that if you disagree with President Obama, then it can only be because of Racism, and why would they disagree with TeamWakeEmUp Calling Out Glenn Beck And All Sandy Hook Hoax Debunkers at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O3DNi1Kxrc&list=UUo3SOonDcGx776CcvoW02KQ&index=2 , and is it because they are Racists; they know that he is speaking the truth, or is it because of both of those reasons?

Alex Jones has not for many weeks said that he thinks the Sandy Hook Tragedy last year implicated the Federal Government Connections, but now says that evidence is more and more pointing in that direction: Why People Think Sandy Hook is A Hoax at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM5ZdO-IgEE&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=3 .

I have been Wrongly and Unjustly criticized for not offering an Opinion more quickly, but Investigative Journalism is such that it takes time look at all of the possibilities, and to gather all the evidence, but everyone should be Honest in this matter.

“A lying tongue hates its victims, and flattering words cause ruin” (Proverbs 26:28).

I offer another possibility, and that is that some of it or all of it could have been a Hoax by the Local People, much like the Roswell situation with their claim of biological aliens from a different Planet visiting their small City in order to make Money from Tourism, the sale of paraphernalia, and its so called International UFO Museum and Research Center that earns Money.

I do not want debate the matter of biological aliens from an other Planet visiting the earth, but I do not believe that biological aliens from an other Planet have ever visited the earth, or even our solar system.

It could be that the Federal Authorities and the Local Authorities agreed to this, because it seemed innocent enough, and People would be Bribed to remain Silent, and if things went wrong, then this would be more reason to remain silent.

It could be that Actors and Actresses went to Newtown and enrolled their children at that School, and perhaps their Children were not injured, but will be given Hollywood jobs, and they could be smiling about this and they are smiling because of collecting insurance Money.

I do think that some children were murdered year at Sandy Hook, and all Adults who were there on that day are possible suspects until proven innocent as far I am concerned, and this includes some of the Police.

We know that for a Crime to occur; there needs to be the Means, the Opportunity, and the Motive all of the Police had the Means and the Opportunity because they had machine guns, and they were in the School, but did some or all of them have a Motive?

Lieutenant Paul Vance, Spokesman for the Connecticut State Police
said “One thing is becoming somewhat of a concern and that is misinformation that’s being posted on social media sites. It is important to note that we have discussed with federal authorities that these issues are crimes. They will be investigated statewide and federally and prosecution will take place when people perpetrating this information are identified.”

We know that the American Constitution is the Supreme Law of the United States of America, and we know that Blocking of Evidence is a Crime in and of itself, and it appears that Lieutenant Paul Vance claimed the Federal Authorities had agreed to Unlawfully and Criminally Break the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Where there are 2 or more who agree to Break the Law, then this is called a Proven Conspiracy Fact, and it has nothing to do with theory.

We know that even if one American administration promises to something, then this can be disregarded by another American Administration.

One perfect example is the promise that President Ronald Reagan made to President Mikhail Gorbachev, that if the Soviet Union the European Countries their Freedom, then America would not expand NATO in those Countries, and we know that subsequent American Administrations have forgotten this promise.

This is why the Founding Fathers gave the American People the First and Second Amendments of the Constitution, and the First Amendment is totally dependent on the Second Amendment, and will only last for as long as the Second Amendment lasts, and Most People know that, even those who are doing themselves and others a Gross Disservice by Deliberately Lying about this Fact.

The Only thing I have evidence for, and that I agree with the Official Version of Events is that Police were in attendance at Sandy Hook Elementary School last year.

If the Official Version of events is true, then they need to explain why there was no blood, sweat, or tears associated with what is alleged to have occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School last year.

I think that it is possible fewer children and Adults died, with some of the Adults receiving Insurance Money, and changing Identities.

One Person asked, Why is anyone Debating this Matter that he referred to as nonsense, but I think that Person and Most Americans know that it is a Serious Matter to Debate the Present and Future Security of the American People, and that Person should tells us if he or she wants a job as an SS Goon, and this is why he or she is trying stifle Free Speech and Vital Public Debate, together with attempts to solve a Crime which could have been committed by either State or Federal Authorities.

I believed long before the Sandy Hook Tragedy, that either by Hook or Crook, the Clintonites wants to Disarm the American People, in order to commit Genocide on the American People, on order to start WW 3.

I have not as yet formed an opinion, as to what did happen at Sandy Hook last year, but I said that if every Possibility that fits the Facts is presented, then one of them just has to be right, and I want to examine more of other People’s research on this matter.

The reason why this is being Debated and Investigated by Concerned Citizens for a Constitutional Democratic Republic, is because the victims are owed this, and the American people are owed this, because Eternal Vigilance is the Price that Must be Paid for Freedom and Liberty.

Posted by: Journalist at January 28, 2013 7:00 AM
Comment #360972

If there had been Security Guards and if some of the cameras were available on the Internet to the Public in Schools, then things would have been different.

I am not suggesting that those cameras that each School’s Security approves to be available to the Public on the Internet should be available to the Public during an incident.

This is because an accomplice could communicate to a suspected Criminal certain Information.

However, after an incident was over, then all of the cameras should be available to the Public.

Has anyone seen anyone repairing Sandy Hook Elementary School, and how do we know that they did not do damage to the building after the incident.

This means that if Inspectors came to that School, they could see if repairs were genuine or were made to look genuine, or if there was just a painting of the walls to make it look repaired.

Another thing that America needs is 100 % Public Funding of Elections, with Paper Ballots.

The Voting and Counting Process should be covered by cameras that are linked to the Internet for Public Scrutiny.

Even though this is Vital in any Democracy, it could be dangerous, because those with Political Power, are probably committed to Democracy than they are to the Constitution.

There are many Americans who think these things should be part of the Public Debate, on Protecting Americans.

There are many unanswered questions, and while covering up 9/11 might be good for America, I think Americans should have a Proper Debate on these things.

Posted by: Journalist at January 28, 2013 7:57 AM
Comment #360973

We have heard many claims of certain American Politicians who claim that they really care about American lives.

If that is true, then end the Gerrymandering of House and Senate both State and Particularly Federal Seats, and ensure 100 % Public Funding of Elections, and that the Media provides Free Time to Contestants at Election Time as part of their licensing arrangement, and as part compensation for Bribed and Corrupt Journalism with a vested Interest.

Another thing that America needs is 100 % Public Funding of Elections, with Paper Ballots, with the Voting and Counting Process should be covered by cameras that are linked to the Internet for Public Scrutiny.

The Corrupt Undemocratic American Political System has cost more American lives, because Money spent on better roads would half the road deaths each year.

The Military Industrial Complex knows they have Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses that can kill those they have given a certain injection disguised as a Vaccine.

The problem is that it will take a maximum of 2 weeks to kill the strongest and fittest Americans, and this is when the Plutocrats and the Puppets will fear revenge from the Americans they betrayed.

They will only be safe in their heavily armed Fortresses Palaces and Bunkers if the American People have been Disarmed.

The Physically weaker Americans will be too sick to fight, and they will start dying in a few days, and they are not the problem; nor are the Children who will not be a threat to them, after the Plutocrats and their Puppets have conquered America.

The Plutocrats their Puppets and the Military, and the Main Stream Media will pay the debt by printing Trillion Dollar Banknotes, and then sell Real Estate to Foreign Migrants in gold and silver, and they will become Extremely Rich, and the Migrants will work in the Armament Factories.

It could be that the American Government is taking Mexican immigrants, because they want fewer Mexicans in North America, because Canada is part of the West, and Anglo-America will be debt free with the most powerful Military in the World to start WW 3.

While covering up that 9/11 was done by Influential Americans, might be good for America not to prosecute in order to not have to pay Afghanistan and Iraq Compensation.

However, Many Americans think they should have a Proper Debate on what happened at Sandy Hook, and the First and the Second Amendments to the Constitution.

I found a Website that seems to have many Videos on the Sandy Hook Elementary School Incident, and it is Titled: Sandy Hook Hoax at http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMl-vvFl-DXq29nGe1fLcbNmoI-wWWTLt .

Posted by: Journalist at January 28, 2013 10:49 AM
Comment #360996

Willie,

“Or are you going to just call the guy a kook or a nutjob or some other pejorative?”

I find it interesting that you choose to post a link to somebody else talking about Mamet writing an article.

Apparently you have no sense of irony.

Everybody on the right whines about how, when Hollywood stars speak up about something political, they are “just actors” as if merely being an actor disqualifies them from being a citizen and having an opinion.
Of course if they happen to support what the actor says, well then, everything is just dandy.

Mamet has a right to his opinion, however I do find it curious that he starts out his article talking about Marxists as if he was an expert on the subject.

How exactly is this supposed to change my opinion on the Sandy Hook “hoax” conspiracy theory?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at January 28, 2013 8:13 PM
Comment #361007

Rocky Marks, perhaps I chose to link to a third party so as not to overload the Democratics and cause a lot of teeth gnashing and arm flailing. It also may be I am trying to spare David Mamet the grief, threats, and demands from Democratics for speaking about his views.
If it truly bothers you that I used an abbreviated version penned by a third party please ignore and discount the actual article written by David Mamet at this link:


Gun Laws and the Fools of Chelm

Also, a little education for your benefit, Rocky Marks. David Mamet’s grandmother is mentioned in his article as coming from Russian Poland. He may not meet your impossible expectations as an expert on Marxism but that fact may give him more credibility than, say, You.

To conclude, I am not foolish enough to think I am going to change your opinion, Rocky Marks. A partisan and his beliefs are rarely separated. I am simply entertaining myself with your all-too-literal arguments.

Rich, true to form. I get the impression you disagree with what is being discussed on this thread titled “Sandy Hook Conspiracy … Thoughts??”. True to form you discount these thoughts as nonsense and wonder why it’s being discussed. Perhaps it’s because the author of the thread asked for “Thoughts”. True to form, Democratics expect people to shut up when they disagree with what’s being said. True to form, the only way people can get along with Democratics is to agree with Democratics.


Posted by: Weary Willie at January 29, 2013 2:08 AM
Comment #361010

Think green program doesn’t only emphasize the use of alternative energy sources, but also on the utilization of energy efficient loads that will replace the high-energy consuming loads. One cited example of this is on the lighting system. An incandescent lamp of 60W can be substituted by a 5W LED light giving also the same quality of brightness and luminance. By just merely subtracting the power consumed by the two, an unbelievable 55W difference will definitely amaze the consumer and therefore attract more and more consumers to make a big shift and be one of those who supports green living. Solar LED street lights technology has already made a bond with the solar power technology in providing quality and energy efficient lighting.

Posted by: LED street lights at January 29, 2013 7:27 AM
Comment #361041

Weary,

Any “thoughts” on a Sandy Hook conspiracy is nothing but mindless drivel. The idea that this could have been some government conspiracy, before or after the fact, is completely preposterous.

Posted by: Rich at January 30, 2013 12:05 AM
Comment #361046

I realized that I should have written: Even though this is Vital in any Democracy (Democratic Reforms), it could be dangerous, because those with Federal Political Power in America, are Less Committed to Democracy than they are to the Constitution.

I should have added that perhaps there are many smiling and laughing People associated with what the Main Stream Media is refering to as a Tradedy, and perhaps they know that is it good to have Vaccines against Genetically Modified Lethal Viruses, and perhaps even other People like the Main Stream Media Journalists might know that.

Posted by: Journalist at January 30, 2013 1:56 AM
Comment #361047

Rich, I heard one scenario where the fed threw a training program and a swat team didn’t get the memo. It was posited that the swat team went into the school thinking it was a live exercise and went in with flash grenades and tear gas and guns blazing. When they realized it was just a drill scheduled as a training exercise they covered up the deaths of everyone involved with the supposed gunman that conveniently killed himself.

Based on the hundreds of botched no-knock assaults on homes by swat teams across the country what makes you want to completely rule this scenario out or dismiss the discussion of it’s possibility as mindless drivel?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 30, 2013 3:04 AM
Comment #361049

Even though I do not want to debate the matter of biological aliens from an other Planet visiting the earth or even our solar system, I should have just added a few extra sentences, so that People will better understand my belief on this matter.

If biological aliens on other Planets exist, then they are God’s creation, and while it is true that the Bible does tell things that God created, it may not be a complete list, and I am allowing for the possibility that biological aliens from other solar systems Might exist, but I cannot prove it or disprove it.

God in His wisdom may be think that Humans do not need to know this, and perhaps Adam and Eve knew the answer to that question, but Moses did not write on this matter, and I placed that comment on this Website in an older News Item.
It would be good to make a copy if you agree with all or some of it, because there are People who would like to Decieve others.

That News Item is: How about that Electoral College here at http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/008249.html , and it is an older News Item, and it give reasons why I do not believe that even if biological aliens from other Planets do exist, they have never visited the earth, or even our solar system.

That comment begins with the words: I do accept the possibility that there might be intelligent biological alien life living far away on other Habitable Planets in the Universe.

Posted by: Journalist at January 30, 2013 3:56 AM
Comment #361068

Weary,

It wasn’t a swat team that initially responded to Sandy Hook. There was no training exercise. It was multiple normal patrol units responding to a 911 dispatch. Just listen to the taped transmissions. They were uncertain, shocked and scrambling to determine what was happening at the school. If they were in on some conspiracy, they were all very good actors and extremely cold blooded to boot.

The only conspiracy scenario that would make any logical sense would be that the government hired or induced this nut case to kill a bunch of school children. That would be possibly manageable from a logistical perspective. Sadly, I suppose that some could believe that.

Posted by: Rich at January 30, 2013 5:04 PM
Comment #361094


http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/EventDetail_page.asp

The goal of the course is to enable participants to improve their community’s mitigation and emergency operations plan specifically regarding the needs of children.

Location: 2800 Main Street, Bridgeport, CT
This event is 14 miles from you (06470).

newtown conniticut zipcode: 06470

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 31, 2013 3:21 AM
Comment #361096

OOPS! That link didn’t work. Let’s try this one.

Active Shooter Drill
The official government website for the state of Connecticut (ct.gov) lists the drill on their calendar;
12/14 9 AM – 4 PM FEMA L-366 Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 31, 2013 3:53 AM
Comment #361097

That’s better.

It’s not proof of anything, but it is a co-incidence. I wonder how many other such co-incidences are out there?

Maybe I’ll take a look at Arizona’s Department of Emergency Services. I heard New York was having a drill involving airplanes hitting buildings on 9-11-2001. I should look that up too.

So much to do, so little time. sigh!

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 31, 2013 3:58 AM
Comment #361178


There is the saying that past Science Fiction becomes Science Fact, and we know that there were many science Fiction Movies made in America decades ago.

People should watch the 1965 film called the Satan Bug and the 1971 film called the Omega man, and both films are on the topic of Genetically Modified Lethal Viruses, and those who would like to have Vaccines against genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses.

We all know that Science and Technology has considerable improved since then, and we need to assume that certain Vaccines and Genetically Modified Food could be what is needed to make these Genetically Modified Lethal Viruses kill People.

A summary of the Omega Man Titled: The Omega Man (Suite) should be able to be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxAN0B6lIeU , and it is a Timely Movie to Watch, given the Fact that america has 122 Trillion Dollars in Unfunded Liabilities on top of the unsustainable Debts and Deficits, at http://www.usdebtclock.org/ , and and U S Economy Contracts, Dollar Falls, Commodities Rise at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVMayvhzJsE .

I have yet to watch what looks like 3 part of of the SANDY HOOK THE NEW 9/11.. SHOCKING EVIDENCE of INSIDE JOB & RITUAL SACRIFICE, which is now available and it Titled: SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACY DECODED! FALSE FLAG? CONNECTED TO LEY-LINES & TEOTIHUACAN at http://www.youtube.com/user/elnine11?feature=watch .

The Only Real Evidence that I have is that the Police and Main Stream Media were at Sandy Hook Elementary School on 12/14/12, and
I found a Video that is Titled: What The Evil Elite Don’t Want You To Know, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHHvKqT989M .

We know that much of Hollywood are the Puppets of the America Left and the Plutocrats who control their ability to make Big Money, and Hollywood or the CIA could fake any films or photos after all this time, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUhqOz-hlwk , but everyone would like to be Vaccinated against Genetically Engineered Modified Lethal Viruses, if they were certain of the Vaccines.

Another thing that America needs is 100 % Public Funding of Elections, with Paper Ballots.

The Voting and Counting Process should be covered by cameras that are linked to the Internet for Public Scrutiny.

Even though this is Vital in any Democracy, it could be dangerous, because those with Political Power, are even less committed to Democracy than what they are to the Constitution.

This is because America is a Puppet Colony of the English Empire; and, America will Only gain its Independence from England if Only those with no English DNA are in positions of Power in America.

England does not want to give up its Control over America, and so they could Easily Scheme Evil against the American People, but they need to Disarm the American People, before they could release the Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses that are Engineered with America Vaccines.

I have no opinion to offer People if they should or should not take any or all of the Vaccines the American Government gives them.

They are clever enough to know that you could die if you do not take Vaccines for known Diseases, but Anglo-American Technology is Sufficiently Advanced to incorporate the good Vaccines with the Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses in order to ensure that
Only those with an American Vaccine Regime would be killed after the Genetically Modified Lethal Viruses were released.

The English or their American Plutocrat Puppets do not want to destroy the Planet, but depopulate America, because the Loans and Liabilities would disappear, as they were made in American Dollars, and we saw the thought of an American Trillion Dollar Silver Coin.

America came off the Gold Standard with President Nixon in order to fund English wars that were made to look like American Wars.

The Video Titled: Schools should Brainwash People Against Guns says AG Eric Holder should be able to be seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhaGx45tZZM , and the 1995 Video Holder ‘95 » We Must Brainwash People Against Guns at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhqUGCNiK9w .

I believed long before the Sandy Hook Matter, that either by Hook or by Crook, the Clintonites want to Disarm the American People, and use an Independent Kosovo with their Camp Bondsteel in Serbia’s Province to begin WW 3, at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/headlines.php .

There has deliberately been no real Evidence of what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School on 12/14/12, but they is a lot of evidence for other things that occurred and are occurring, and these things are not occurring in Isolation to Sandy Hook Controversy in my opinion, and I have mentioned the possibilities and probabilities in my comments on this Topic.

Posted by: Journalist at February 1, 2013 2:01 AM
Comment #361327

I do believe that America is a Secret Puppet Colony of England, and most people are not enthusiastic enough to learn of the ways of Trickery, or insufficiency intelligence at the moment to understand that the Politicians of all of Anglo-America with English DNA including their Puppet Media are the Expert Deceivers.

They do cunningly use Pu pets of other Races in their Deceptive Activities, and they can put on an Act where they pretend to be Opponents, but they are working towards the same Conspiracy.

We need to look no further than America’s President who has 50 % English DNA, and how the English DNA Congresspeople and the English DNA Controlled Media are covering up for him, because he was chosen for a Conspiratorial Assignment.

This comment is giving a possible Conspiracy against the American People based on Human Nature and History, and no one can deny Human Nature or History as Evidence.

It is my considered analysis that most American Politicians with English DNA, were Americans in name only, and their Only Country was and is England.

There is an old saying that says: We see what you do and we hear what you say, but what is the Motive behind it?

The English Empire was not built up, because of its humanitarianism, but because the English care only about themselves, and while they appear to have standards while they are deceiving others, History conclusively shows that they have No Standards or Principles other than Evil Tyrannical Exploitation of others to increase their Empire.

What this means is that other nations will be offered bait, and it will look like it is in their interest to do things the Anglo-American way or English way, but the wise will go in the opposite direction to what they know is what England wants.

It needs to be stated that the English are more than cunning enough to suggest something that they do not really want something, when they really do, in order to deceive others to their bidding.

I am not speaking of new things, but of old things that the English have worked long and hard on, and that are beyond any dispute, and each matter has to be carefully considered on an issue by issue basis.

We can be certain that the English will continue to scheme things against other Countries, and that they will continue to be the most Intelligent Race in the World.

This means that other Countries will always need to be on their Guard against the shrewd and cunning schemes of England who rules Anglo-America.

We know that the human body has a defence mechanism for rejecting foreign material that is not of its own DNA.

I speak here not as how things should be, but as how things are, because living in fantasy land will not help matters.

America has always been, and will always be a Puppet of England for as long as those with any English DNA are in Positions of Authority in America.

President Obama has 50 % English DNA, and he is culturally White, and Culturally an Arab Muslim, and DNA is loyal to its own DNA, and that is true of some other Races.

The same way the Human Body does not betray its own DNA is the same way those with English DNA will not betray their Only Real Country of Loyalty, which is England.

This principle, or lack of principle is seen in the former Yugoslavia with the Racist Slovenes, the Racist Croatians, and the Racist Albanians, where the Serbian People, were and are the Only Non Racist Group in the former Yugoslavia at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/headlines.php .

The Bribed and Corrupt Western Media or English Controlled Media had to lie and say that the Innocent Serbs were the Guilty ones, because the English do not want the World to know that English DNA is Loyal only to English DNA.

America or New England it Valued at 100 Trillion Dollars, and has Huge Debts, Deficits, and Unfunded Liabilities, at http://www.usdebtclock.org/ .

America’s Debt is in American Dollars, and so America could print Billion Dollar Banknotes, or they could send the digital Money from a computer, and no banknotes would need to be printed, and America would be debt free.

This will mean that America can never borrow from other Countries, and that the American Dollar will greatly depreciate, and cause Hyperinflation.

England may be happy for other Countries to buy Gold, because America’s situation is much like Germany’s was, and yet Hitler invented a Monetary System was invented that did not need Gold to back it up, at http://rense.com/general77/Hitlersmm.html .

If England schemes for America to go to Hitler’s Proven System, then it will mean that the English Empire is on the rise again, and Perhaps as in the Dictionary Definition of the word Perhaps, Gold, Silver, and other Precious Metals may not be as good an Investment as what they currently appear, and we have heard America speak of a Trillion Dollar Silver Coin

Many Historians and Scholars say that Hitler’s Monetary System was the real reason for WW 2, and we should know that Anglo-America or England is Hitler and could even be worse than Hitler.

I would be wrong to call it Hitler’s Monetary System, because Colonial America used this System and Printed Colonial Scripts Abraham Lincoln printed Greenbacks, at The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g47NGtODeVM , and Colonial Script: Fiat Money That Worked at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGbEHMtjoIA .

England may want to depopulate America by means of Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses, so that America can accept Rich migrants for Gold and Silver, before going to a Fiat Money That Works, but America will have the most powerful Military, and follow Hitler’s example of rebuilding Germany, but with the objective of conducting WW 3 for England, but they need to Disarm the American People for that.

The American English Army is Only in Muslim Countries, where they favour Sharia Law over Democracy, and it could be that England wants to make America an Islamic State based on Islamic Sharia Law in order to more quickly build up America.

The American English Army is Only in Muslim Countries, where they favour Sharia Law over Democracy, and it could be that England wants the American Army to learn the ways of Islam to to make America an Islamic State based on Islamic Sharia Law in order to more quickly build up America , at http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Islams_Terrorist_Dogma_in_Muhammads_Own_Words.Islam , and http://prophetofdoom.net/ .

We know that President Obama is trained in the ways of Islam, and that the European Union Politicians are working by using War to steal Serbian Kosovo in order to create a Greater Islamic Albania, where they can go to do their Dirty Things by playing the Harem Master.

If the European Union Politicians had have been doing their jobs of managing the Economy, rather than Scheming how to satisfy their Evil Lusts, then Europe would not have these Economic problems.

There could be People who think that women were put in the American Army to say to the Male Soldiers that they will give the Male Soldiers a Harem by killing American Males, after the Military Dictatorship is set up in America, and Islam allows wives as young who not even teenagers, and perhaps Males will receive Different Vaccines than Females.

This is because that way the America can be the Leader of the Islamic World, and England will then Rule the World, and its Resources.

It could be that the American Government is taking Mexican immigrants, because they want fewer Mexicans in North America, because Canada is part of Anglo-America, and Anglo-America will be debt free with the most powerful Military in the World in order to start WW 3.

England does not want to give up its Control over America, and so they could Easily Scheme Evil against the American People, but they need to Disarm the American People, before they could release the Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses that are Engineered with America Vaccines.

I have no opinion to offer People if Americans should or should not take any or all of the Vaccines the American Government gives them, because that is entirely a personal decision.

They are clever enough to know that you could die if you do not take Vaccines for known Diseases, but Anglo-American Technology is Sufficiently Advanced to incorporate the good Vaccines with the Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses in order to ensure that Only those with an American Vaccine Regime would be killed after the Genetically Modified Lethal Viruses were released.

The English or their American Plutocrat Puppets do not want to destroy the Planet, but depopulate America, because the Loans and Liabilities would disappear, as they were made in American Dollars, and we saw the thought of an American Trillion Dollar Silver Coin.

America came off the Gold Standard with President Nixon in order to fund English wars that were made to look like American Wars, and America may not want Gold and Silver for the next few decades, because they might use Hitler’s Monetary System to further the interests of the English Empire.

The American Politicians will be able to Legally be Polygamists, and we know that Polygamy and Islamic Sharia Law is not compatible with the American Constitution.

We already know that we will never get 100 % agreement by People on any matter, and their are men like President Bill Clinton who would like to be Polygamists under Islmaic Sharia Law, because they do not have to pay money to the wives they Divorce, and Hillary Clinton set the Example of being one of Bill Clinton’s Harem.

We know that President Obama comes from a Polygamist Household, because his Muslim father had many wives, and we know that the other Presidential Candidate, Mitt Romney’s forefathers were Polygamists.

The Article Titled: Jihad and Kosovo: What Are They Thinking in Washington says: At an April 17, 2007, hearing on Kosovo, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Tom Lantos (D-CA) called upon “jihadists of all color and hue” to see Kosovo as “yet another example [sic: presumably a reference to Muslim Bosnia] that the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.” President Bush’s utterances on Kosovo have been indistinguishable, at http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/10/jihad-and-kosovo-what-are-they-thinking-in-washington.html, and http://www.jihadwatch.org/ , and http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/02/bosnia-muslim-nazis-deja-vu.html , and http://grayfalcon.blogspot.com.au/ , http://www.b92.net/eng/news/headlines.php .

I believed long before the Sandy Hook Tragedy, that either by Hook or Crook, the Clintonites want to Disarm the American People to commit Genocide on them, and to begin WW 3, and use an Independent Kosovo with America’s Camp Bondsteel in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo to increase English Global Hegemony.

Posted by: Journalist at February 4, 2013 6:31 AM
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GOD, we could really use an ‘ignore’ option on this site…

Posted by: Rhinehold at February 4, 2013 1:49 PM
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If we didn’t have bad we wouldn’t know what good is.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 4, 2013 4:03 PM
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Do you have any idea of what your talking about Journalist?

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 4, 2013 7:07 PM
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The only hoax is the assertion of a hoax.
But then it may be possible that anti-gun nut-cases cooked that story up to try to make someone look bad?

Regardless, pencilz dont misppel wordz, spoons don’t make people fat, and guns don’t kill people.

People do all of that, and there are lots of ways to kill people without guns. The vast majority of shootings are done with pistols.

Gun control doesn’t work at all to keep guns out of criminals hands. It only makes it easier for criminals to commit crimes.

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, … , and re-elect, at least, possibly, until repeatedly rewarding failure and FOR-SALE, incompetent, arrogant, and corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at February 4, 2013 11:07 PM
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The real problem is societal decay.
Things have been deteriorating for about 30 years.
A deteriorating economy has a lot to do with it.
As the abuses continue unabated, and the majority of people fall behind, the nation gets meaner and meaner.

We also don’t need a lot more new laws.
How about enforcing some laws that already exist?
But then again, that is also part of the problem.
Certain types of lawlessness increase as the nation continues to deteriorate.

At any rate, the majority of voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, … , and re-elect, at least, possibly, until repeatedly rewarding (who perpetuate these failure and FOR-SALE, incompetent, arrogant, and corrupt incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election finally becomes too painful.

Posted by: d.a.n at February 4, 2013 11:17 PM
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The following Video will show what an unbiased investigative journalist will discover the Facts, and prove that the American Main Stream Media Lies, and that the Clintonites also Lie, because they engineered the Civil Wars in the former Yugoslavia.

The Bosnians are Ethincly Serbian who are Muslims because of the 500 years of Balkan Occupation by the Ottoman Empire by Muslim Turks, and the Albanians converted to Islam during the same 500 years of Turkish Occupation of the Balkans.

The Serbs also known as Chetniks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks , after the Anti Nazi WW 2 Chetniks are also Ethically Serbian, and they are Orthodox Christians, and the Groats are Catholic, and they all share the same Language, with differences being less than 1 % of the entire Vocabularies.

It is interesting that a News Article Titled; Straight Talk from Al Gore, who should be called Gory Al Capone Gore, and This Clintonite was Vice President and an Accomplice to President Bill and Hillary Clinton at the time they engineered the Civil Wars in the former Yugoslavia.

The Video is Titled: Srebrenica - (A town betrayed) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUuhSGnLvv8 , and another good Video to watch on the Clintonites is Titled: It Began With a Lie, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pujC5qlujiA , and read what the Lord Byron Founadtion says at http://www.savekosovo.org/documents/071023Conference.pdf .

Perhaps it is just my Computer, but I could not access http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/10/jihad-and-kosovo-what-are-they-thinking-in-washington.html, from this Website, but when I copy and paste the limk in a seach engine, then I can find it, or I can find it if I type in an Internet Search Engine, the Title of that Article, which is, Jihad and Kosovo: What Are They Thinking in Washington?

The American Council for Kosovo at http://www.savekosovo.org/ , has the Facts concerning the innocent Serbs, and has the News Article Kosovo Muslim Albanian Prime Minister owns Harem with 52 slaves at http://www.savekosovo.org/?p=6&leader=3&sp=589 .

Many People, including Many Americans know just how Dirty Rotten, and Corrupt Presidents Bill and Hillary Clinton and the other Clintonites are, because some People just cannot handle the truth, and do not want to face up to Reality.

This is because it is my opinion that everyone agrees that what I wrote is correct, but that it might be imprudent to agree with properly investigative journalism.

We know that there can be no 100 % agreement by People on any matter, and we need to know that nearly every American Adult Male, even those with English DNA has fantasised about having a Harem, but they will not Confess to this for the Obvious Reasons, and we know that there are women of English Ancestry like Hillary Clinton.

We know that there was no blood, sweat or tears associated with Sandy Hook, and if we compare the funeral services that occurred 18 years after the deaths at Srebrenica in the Video Titled: Srebrenica - (A town betrayed), with the smiling and laughing ‘grievers’ of Sandy Hook, then there there are a few questions that need to be asked.

Those funerals at the 53 minute mark of the Video Titled: Srebrenica - (A town betrayed), are funeral that are occuring 18 years after their deaths, and not just a few days after Sandy Hook.

If these Sandy Hook People could be so callous with no blood, sweat, or tears, then why would they care about what is call gun control, but is in reality People Control, unless in their great callousness, they want to create an Islamic Dictatorship in America with Polygamy and Islamic Sharia Law, or if the want Vaccines against Geneticly Engineered Lethal Viruses?

The other possible explanation for there being no blood, sweat, or tears is because it was a hoax, where those involved would receive something like Vaccines against Geneticlly Engineered Lethal Viruses.

It could that Jared Loughner, James Holmes, were made an offer Chicago Mafia Style that he could not refuse, by where he could secure Vaccines against Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses for himself and his when a day before they were needed, and that once the Military Dictatorship in America takes control, then he will be released and become a Polygamist, or he and his family would be Unvaccinated, and the same offer is just as good and valid for the future.

I will not refer to Sandy Hook as a Tragedy, but as a Matter, and I believed long before the Sandy Hook Matter, that either by Hook or Crook, the Clintonites want to Disarm the American People to commit Genocide on them, and to begin WW 3, and use an Independent Kosovo with America’s Camp Bondsteel in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo to increase English Global Hegemony.

Posted by: Journalist at February 5, 2013 6:31 AM
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This News Item says that a Serb is alleged to have been responsible an explosion that injured Serb children at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=02&dd=05&nav_id=84526 .

Another Story is that the Serbian Prime Minister will visit to Washington, and I am certain that the subject of a long long supply of Vaccines against Geneticlly Engineered Lethal Viruses will be Secretly Discussed at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=02&dd=06&nav_id=84539 .

It could be that some Serbs are working for the CIA who have promised him and his Family Vaccines against Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses, in order to help the Serbian Politicians give away Kosovo.

There are People who think that the Serbian Politicians have been Bribed with Vaccines against Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses for themselves and their Families in order to give away Kosovo, and other People think that this should be brought to the attention of the United Nations Security Council and the United Nations General Assembly.

We know that Honesty levels for Kosovo Police are very low, but even they like to have Vaccines against Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses, and we all know that the Honesty levels if they exist in any measure are very low for England and America because they use the CIA and Underhanded Methods to try to steal Kosovo.

I think that if a Leader of a Country wanted to deceive others that he was not Hitler, then he would visit Israel.

I believed long before the Sandy Hook Matter, that either by Hook or by Crook, the Clintonites want to Disarm the American People to commit Genocide on them, and to begin WW 3, and use an Independent Kosovo with America’s Camp Bondsteel in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo to increase English Global Hegemony.

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