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The End of the War

One of the things we are hearing, and will continue to hear, over the next couple of months of the election is how “Obama got us out of Iraq and ended the war”. It’s a great story, but unfortunately it doesn’t really stand up to the facts. And we all know how much Democrats are a slave to the facts!

Yes, the troops (most of them) came home during the Obama presidency. But that isn't really the whole of the story. The agreement to bring home the troops from Iraq was actually negotiated between Iraqi and US officials in the fall of 2008. By President Bush.

Of course, many will point out that President Obama, who was famously against the war as a state senator, when the discussion to go to war with Iraq was going on, has always been for the removal of troops from Iraq and should be praised for keeping us to the scheduled withdrawl instead of backing out at the last moment.

Or was he?

Actually, the Huffington Post has pointed out just the opposite. In fact, just six months before the scheduled deadline, President Obama was trying to keep the troops in Iraq past the end of 2011. The only thing stopping him from doing this was the pledge put in place by former President Bush.

So, we have a president campaigning on peace, winning a peace prize just months into his presidency wanting to continue the war in Iraq. Coupled with:

Keeping us in Afghanistan until 2024
Using Drones on several sovereign countries
Increasing the War on Drugs
Illegally entering the US into a war in Libya
Claiming the right to assassinate American Citizens as 'due process'
Dismissing the last legal attempt to hold someone accountable for the use of torture
etc...

Yes, I could go on further, but I'm pretty confident anyone who disagrees with these things have quit reading, or never actually clicked to read the full story to begin with. Many more injustices as this can be found at http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald// (for past articles) and http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/series/glenn-greenwald-security-liberty going forward.

The fact is that Democrats like war when they are the ones waging it. They dislike it when the Republicans are the ones waging it. Unlike Republicans who, it seems, really doesn't care which party is expanding American Imperialism.

Posted by Rhinehold at September 5, 2012 4:32 PM
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Comment #352289

Rhinehold, what about the peace initiative gained through globalism? Does that apply only to nuke wars?

Posted by: Roy Ellis at September 6, 2012 12:22 PM
Comment #352292

Rhinehold,

As I’ve said in the past I generally support any President’s decisions with regards to troops, wars and such. That’s got to be the toughest decision a President can make and they make it with MUCH more information than I do on any situation. So I’m pretty certain that the circumstances on the ground have dictated the decisions obviously more so than Mr. Obama’s own politics.

Posted by: George at September 6, 2012 12:55 PM
Comment #352293

Several decades ago, we were aghast to learn that we were participating in a ‘secret war’ in Laos and Cambodia… Yet, today when we find this president doing the same thing in Yemen and other countries, well, let’s just give him the benefit of the doubt?

I hardly think so.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/06/the-war-in-yemen-100-drone-strikes-since

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 6, 2012 1:06 PM
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