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Long Live Corpocracy and the 545

A lot of hoopla about a few mil spent frivolously by the GSA quickly led to acknowledging the some $60B lost to war profiteering in Iraq/Afghan. Been known for years but the cover up is large. Any questions put to congresspersons begets a lot of finger pointing and little else.

The public seems not to give a whit unless drugs or prostitution are involved. Rotten, and the 545 has worked hard to make it so.

We really need a 3rd party with a different political attitude but alas, pull the dip stick from the third party column and it’s dry to the touch.

Otherwise, rock on Corpocracy!

Posted by Roy Ellis at April 17, 2012 10:27 PM
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Comment #342037

As any R or D will tell you, it doesn’t matter if you measure corruption by the million or by the billion. What matters is how much of it can I blame on my political opponent.

Posted by: RUSerious at April 18, 2012 9:46 AM
Comment #342039

Exactmento RU. For example: the GSA holds an annual Western Regional conference. There is no other regional conference. Last year the Western Regional was held in Louisana but this year Harry Reid weighed in for Nevada. Harry is no better, or worse than the other 544, just doing what pol’s do to direct dollars to their constituents.

Just another way of ‘ear marking’ taxdollars for this or that pet project.

We really need a new 3rd party with a different political attitude. A party that can shunt to ground the Pol’s who are members of that 3rd party who act like a Harry Reid, Al Sharpton, Alaska’s Ted and similar.

Otherwise, we have the Corpocracy we deserve.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at April 18, 2012 11:31 AM
Comment #342071

Roy the 545 have a lot of help. It isn’t so much that people need the drugs or prostitutes it is the corporate media that needs the drugs and prostitutes to sell their product. NPR proves people will listen to other issues without the titillation.

BTW Roy Rev. Al isn’t a politician why include him in this list.

Posted by: j2t2 at April 18, 2012 10:59 PM
Comment #342078

Did you notice how gracefully Rev. Al transitioned into his present position? I, because I have not heard anything about Rev. Al resigning, or not running, or retiring, or going to jail, always thought he is still a member of congress! I thought he was just moonlighting as a commentator on a tv show to pay his legal bills!

What is Rev. Al’s actual position? Is he still a member of Congress, or did he retire/resign/gotfired?

Could you please post links to articles that confirm Rev. Al’s current position?

I’m only asking because I totally missed it in the MSM!

You’d think that if the MSM held everyone to the same standards Rev. Al’s position would be common knowledge.

j2t2, why shouldn’t Rev. Al be included in the list?

Posted by: Weary Willie at April 19, 2012 2:14 AM
Comment #342091

My point, j2t2, is why do we give the federal government more money than any other government ie. state/local?

Why do we disconnect ourselves from our labor and then sit here and bitch to each other about how it’s being spent?

It doesn’t make sense! If we gave our money to our local government most of it would be spent on things that make sense, not things that divide all of us!

Why was it missed that each and every “Citizen” in this country could have received (2) two-million dollars if the bailout money was directed towards the Citizen. Why wasn’t the Citizen given the chance to pay off his debt instead of our “government” doing it for us, and then leaving us hanging out to dry.

I hold onto the opinion that I was robbed, as were all of us. We were robbed by our government and our government doesn’t think we’re smart enough to realize it.

Our government may be right when the majority can “refuse” to even consider thinking we were robbed.


Posted by: Weary Willie at April 19, 2012 2:52 AM
Comment #342156
My point, j2t2, is why do we give the federal government more money than any other government ie. state/local?

Why is it that bigger is always better except when it comes to government? As the corporacy grows so grows…..

Why do we disconnect ourselves from our labor and then sit here and bitch to each other about how it’s being spent?

Because labor is considered a commodity in the predatory capitalism we have in the world today?


It doesn’t make sense! If we gave our money to our local government most of it would be spent on things that make sense, not things that divide all of us!

And your proof of this is….?

Here in my neck of the woods we have a county government that took the ambulance service private despite a vote by the people that turned down a sales tax to find the service. We spent millions instead of giving the previous provider the thousands needed to make the service work. Everyone of these county commissioners are hard core conservative republicans. We have not 1 dem in county government.

One of the reasons the federal government has grown is due to local and state government corruption. Remember bigger is better in America today.

Why was it missed that each and every “Citizen” in this country could have received (2) two-million dollars if the bailout money was directed towards the Citizen. Why wasn’t the Citizen given the chance to pay off his debt instead of our “government” doing it for us, and then leaving us hanging out to dry.

Because as individuals we are not to big to fail?
Roy I must have missed something as the govt. didn’t pay off any of my personal debts and they sure didn’t pay off any of our collective debt. They bailed the big guys out because if they didn’t capitalism would have failed and the global economy would have collapsed.

I hold onto the opinion that I was robbed, as were all of us. We were robbed by our government and our government doesn’t think we’re smart enough to realize it.

It wasn’t the government Roy, they were just the bag men. It was the to big to fail corporations that bought the government that robbed us, the banksters. Remember bigger is better.

Our government may be right when the majority can “refuse” to even consider thinking we were robbed.

We don’t have a majority Roy we have 2 sides that are kept busy disagreeing over other issues. We have exactly what we deserve.

Posted by: j2t2 at April 19, 2012 11:48 AM
Comment #342161

Roy by coincidence here is a local government gone bad.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/small-illinois-town-comptroller-accused-stealing-millions-200808914.html

Posted by: j2t2 at April 19, 2012 1:22 PM
Comment #342167


Roy, the public can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that the politician they love so much and keep electing is a primary enabler of the corruption on behalf of crony capitalism.

Since partisan voters are determined to maintain the crony capitalist corpocracy status quo, election dog and pony shows are the name of the game.

Media advertisers (corporations) prefer the dog and pony shows.

Even those who claim to be reformers, more often than not, want to do so in a purely partisan manner. The tea party is an example. They and the Republicans entered into a deficit reduction agreement with Obama and the Democrats, which the Republicans have been trying to dismantle because it is to bipartisan for their liking.

Posted by: jlw at April 19, 2012 4:15 PM
Comment #342176

Weary,I don’t know that I have the tools to delete spam in a thread. I’ll check with Brian on that. Seems my posts draw more spam, not sure. Strange too, that on Republic Sentry site most of the visits are by Indonesian or Northern Europe sounding names. Any ideas on that?

Responders, I feel our pain! Our gov’t is in the hands of the Corpocracy and it won’t be an easy fix to restore ‘’liberty, sovereignty, democratic principles’’ etc. In todays WaPo George Will writes re a book by Judge Harvie Wilkerson III, “Cosmic Constitutional Theory: Why Americans Are Losing Their Inalienable Right To Self-Governance” on the right to rule oneself. In brief, leave the Constitution alone, stop judicial activism. Big quote coming up:: “Government exists not to confer rights, but to secure preexisting rights, the fundamental rights concern the liberty of individuals, not the prerogatives of the collectivity.”

Another WaPo relates that Wellpoint is the target of an increasingly aggressive campaign to force disclosure of corporate political and lobbying expenditures, including payments to the US CofC. Wellpoint being a big player in the recently passed HC bill.

And, what will a little corpocracy lobbying do for you? Another WaPo article relates that corporate lobbies are using the threat of litigation as a club to block rnegulation, slow their (SEC) efforts or scare them into writing softer rules. Exemplar: SEC commissioners voted, re credit default swaps, to exempt dealers that engage in up to $3B of the transactions per year. That is 30 times higher than the $100M threshold the SEC proposed in drafting new rules in 2010.

And, so it goes. The people are being scammed left and right and loving it, so it seems.

We must find a way to implement REAL campaign finance reform before any REAL reform can be achieved. Like right now there is a WaPo article as to how the congress is tinkering with a ‘small business tax cut’ when we need a flat tax. REAL reform can’t happen until corporate personhood is abolished.

Delaware is the first state to go on record proposing to abolish CP. Eyes are on MoveToAmend and ReclaimDemocracy as they push a summer blitz to bring more local/state gov’ts to the table on this issue.

And, we are watching for a May verdict by the US Attorney General, Holder to decide if a citizen can sue congresspersons for abdicating their responsibility by denying the people access to Article V Convention as described in the Constitution. A path of reform action by the people but blocked by congress and the courts. Nobody is holding their breath on this one.

Still, IMO, the most expedient path to reform and the most efficient path, think multi=tasking, to reform is through a new 3rd party with a diff political attitude. A party where members are responsible for oversight of their elected officials. A party where members in all states can vote for/against removing a Reverend Al, or similar from the party.

Let’s work to replace Corpocracy power with people power.

Otherwise, we have the Corpocracy we deserve.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at April 19, 2012 5:31 PM
Comment #342268

RU, chalk it up to time constraint – if you will!! I posted the article in a rush, confusing Sharpton with House member Rangel. And, my brief statement re the Attny Gen did allude to powers he doesn’t have. Sometime in May Holder is to make his decision known as to whether to act on a citizens complaint to sue, or close on it.

http://foavc.org/reference/Holder.pdf

Thanks for the query

Posted by: Roy Ellis at April 20, 2012 10:13 PM
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