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A couple of articles in today’s Washington Post related that remaining moderates are fleeing from congress. Around 1995 moderates held the balance of power but have since dwindled. As of today the most moderate Democrat, Nebraska’s Ben Nelson, and Republican, Maine’s Olympia Snow, are retiring.

Senator Snow is the sixth moderate Senator announcing plans to retire this year. She remarked that she would not seek another six year term because political partisanship has made the Senate unproductive. "Unfortunately, I do not realistically expect the partisanship of the recent years in the Senate to change over the short term". She had built a reputation over the last 33 years as a bridge builder but has become increasingly isolated by partisan politics. Recently she was quoted as saying "I see a vital need for the political center in order for our democracy to flourish and to find solutions that unite rather than divide us. "It is time for change in the way we govern, and I believe there are unique opportunities to build support for that change from outside the United States Senate."

In a related article Ezra Klein writes " We use "polarization" as an epithet. It's what's wrong with America's politics. It's what's wrong with America's political parties. It's what's wrong with America's politicians. It's what's wrong, finally, with America. He alludes that consensus was possible in earlier days as the issue of race brought some measure of moderate consensus building to both parties and now we are stuck with the filibuster and gridlock. Taking on the filibuster is the only parry offered as to a solution.

Noteworthy that the Founding Fathers had no favor for political parties but it was Thomas Jefferson who led the way for the formation of the first political party.

As the reader would expect, I have a different take on the reason for gridlock. Corpocracy.

In the old days small companies produced one or perhaps a few items. These small companies didn't have the extra cash to throw at influencing gov't so it wasn't too hard for congress persons to reach a consensus a good measure of the time. Now, we are monopolized, conglomerated, where one 'thing' produces a slew of products. Think GE for the moment. Now, GE can partner with the few other 'things' that produce a similar range of products and together, dump loads of cash on congresspersons. No matter what the issue, if legislation works to make winners and losers then the 'things' are going to make sure their ox doesn't get gored. Sorry, but I don't know what to call something like Luxottica but a 'thing'.

So, one can see that reform will require more than dealing with the filibuster. It will take a few million centrists, independents and moderates to form a 3rd party specifically designed to remove money from politics/gov't. I know of no other way to bust up the Corpocracy. I can only hope that Senator Snow and other moderates find that an attractive idea as well.

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Posted by Roy Ellis at February 29, 2012 10:30 PM
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Lost my post so I’ll start over.

Roy, I think you are confusing Ben Nelson with Willie Nelson. Moderate conservatives like Nelson, Snowe, Lieberman, etc. are corporatists.

Another Progressive issue.

Centrist are trying to wake up, but they are still drowsy and if the economy continues to improve, they will go right back to sleep.

Corpocracy is the tool.

Financialism is the program. Financialism: Forbes.com

The new aristocracy, the techno aristocracy.

Posted by: jlw at March 1, 2012 1:07 AM
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jlw, I assume you are correct. I didn’t bother to check out the retiring rep’s voting records. I was just marveled over by the fact that there were, at one time, moderates, or congresspersons who was willing to compromises, reach consensus on some issues.

It seems that without these folks we are going to know gridlock and status quo as never before. The Corpocracy has a steady hand on the throttle, fer shure.

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Posted by: Roy Ellis at March 1, 2012 1:12 PM
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Roy, there are still moderates, it’s just that as the country moved further and further to the right, the moderate position shifted right as well. Today, what passes as far left is Obama care and a major part of it was written by conservatives even though no Republicans voted for it.

Posted by: jlw at March 1, 2012 10:54 PM
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So what is the difference between fascism and corporate funding of elections? Between conservatism as practiced today and fascism?

Moderates you ask Roy, Yes Snow is a moderate. Nelson is not. If you want a list of potentially moderate candidates here is Norquist’s pledge and those that represent us that have signed it, which makes them not moderate. For those repubs that haven’t signed scroll to the bottom.

http://www.atr.org/current-list-taxpayer-protection-pledge-signers-a5597

Posted by: j2t2 at March 1, 2012 11:02 PM
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An opinion in WaPo relating to the retirement of Senator Snow and other legislators suggests the country needs a ‘galvanizing third party’. “An independent-thinking third party is our only hope of getting us out of this partisan mess.”

I could not agree more and I hope Senator Snow will evoke similar feelings after retiring from congress.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at March 7, 2012 8:19 PM
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An opinion in today’s WaPo brought forth a different perspective on the reason for extreme partisanship. The writer believes that it was the ratification of the 17th amendment in 1913 that has caused the Senate to take on a partisan posture.

A good point and I don’t have any markers to judge whether the 17th caused much change in the Senate. Seems it would have cut down on cronyism but I don’t know if that would hold water either.

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