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The real, true, unedited, factual impact of Republican Health Care Proposal H-Con Res 34 for 2012

The Republican leadership - Mitch McConnell and John Boehner - said that “if you’re a person who is 55 years of age or older, there’s no change in Medicare for you” and that “we protect Medicare for current seniors.” McConnell and Boehner are LYING. The TRUTH is that the Republican plan would immediately cut benefits for more than 5.5 Million seniors and individuals with disabilities in the country. The Republican budget eliminates Medicare as we know it for anyone age 54 or younger.

And you know what else you can dread out of H-Con Res 34 for 2012? Pretty much everything.

  • Higher drug costs
  • Elimination of new preventive care benefits
  • Elimination of Medicare’s guaranteed benefits
  • Increased annual costs
  • Increased retirement burdens
  • Increase the Medicare eligibility age

Those are the facts, folks. No spin. No interpretation. No rhetoric or name-calling. Just the hard-core figures directly from the Republican’s plan itself. But don’t take my word for it. Read the plan and then decide who’s lying to you.

Read the details of the plan, and follow a link to the actual plan document here.

Posted by Gary St. Lawrence at August 26, 2011 12:23 AM
Comment #328263

But Gary the repubs wouldn’t lie to us.

But Gary this voucher plan works so well in all the other industrialized nations of the world.

But Gary look at all the freedom the next generation will have when they are not forced to participate in a government program.

But Gary Private health insurance is so much more efficient than Medicare/Medicaid. The costs for insurance will come down with the additional competition.

But Gary Medicare/Medicaid will bankrupt the government because there is nothing else we can do.

No really the repubs wouldn’t lie to us would they?

Posted by: j2t2 at August 26, 2011 3:29 PM
Comment #328264

Do you have the right links to the actual proposal? I follow the links off your page and just end up at Dem talking points from Phoenix.
Sorry if I am missing the link. The ol eyes aren’t what they used to be.

Posted by: kctim at August 26, 2011 5:06 PM
Comment #328265

kc, the link is at the end of the page:

Posted by: jane doe at August 26, 2011 5:25 PM
Comment #328266

That’s just the Dem staffs ‘analysis’ of what they think. Their interpretation. Is there a link on that page to the actual plan that I missed?
Gary asked us to read the plan so I figured I would be fair and do that.

Posted by: kctim at August 26, 2011 5:29 PM
Comment #328269

Kctim, H.Con.Res.34: Library of Congress website. Congressional Budget Office website: Preliminary Long-Term Analysis of Ryan Budget Proposal. In case you are actually interested in doing that rather than making a factual point. It is a lot of reading.

Perhaps you could point the direction to the Rep Staff ‘analysis’ of the CBO analysis of H.Con.Res.34.

Posted by: jlw at August 26, 2011 6:24 PM
Comment #328270


here is the doc. itself.

it appears no one wants to provide the actual text. i believe this is what you wanted

Posted by: dbs at August 26, 2011 6:33 PM
Comment #328296

Kctim, dbs has provided a link to the text of the general outline of the House Republican budget. It is not detailed, provides no links to the details, and offers little evaluation of the details. A budget contains hundreds if not a thousand or more pages of details, not 68 pages, Basically, the link is the cover page and table of contents. It tells us nothing.

The CBO has evaluated the details. Gary provided a link to the Democrats analysis of the CBO’s evaluation.

If someone can provide a link to the Republican Staff analysis of the CBO’s evaluation, we can make comparisons.

Is there a detailed Republican Staff response to the CBO’s evaluation, or will Fox News, Limbaugh and Beck be providing the Republican response?

Posted by: jlw at August 27, 2011 4:02 PM
Comment #328308


“The CBO has evaluated the details. Gary provided a link to the Democrats analysis of the CBO’s evaluation.”

how about a link to the CBOs evaluation?

Posted by: dbs at August 27, 2011 6:35 PM
Comment #328313

Ryan’s long term deficit reduction plan is not very sophisticated. It is extremely simple. Transfer the cost of the projected runaway health cost inflation from the federal government to individuals, state and local governments. That’s it in a nutshell.

Good plan unless you think that the problem is how Americans are going to afford health care in the future.

Posted by: Rich at August 28, 2011 7:59 AM
Comment #328355

It wouldn’t be a problem for the rich, fat-cats that he rubs elbows with. Just like it isn’t a problem for most of them to have a clue what it’s like to stretch what equates to their parking-meter change into rent, food and utilities for a month.
He’s an arrogant ass and will never change…

Posted by: jane doe at August 28, 2011 2:41 PM
Comment #328368

dbs, government budgets and CBO estimates are written in a language unbeknown to most Americans. We rely on those who understand to inform us in a way that we can understand.

Gary offered us his comments and an opportunity to read the Democrats interpretation and discuss it. It is obvious that conservatives aren’t interested in discussing the issue and not interested in providing a Republican interpretation of the CBO evaluation as rebuttal. That is odd, because when the CBO evaluated Obamacare, the conservatives had plenty of comments. I guess we will have to rely on Fox News and the conservative talking heads to provide the Republican/conservative truths on this issue while denouncing the naysayers, including the CBO, as unAmerican.

Posted by: jlw at August 28, 2011 5:40 PM
Comment #328382

Thanks jlw and dbs.

“Is there a detailed Republican Staff response to the CBO’s evaluation”

I do not know for sure jlw. I do know however, that no one from the right so far has asked for us to read the actual document with its cold hard figures, with no spin and no interpretations, and then sends us to a partisan ‘analysis’ to prove their point.

I don’t care about either sides health care plan. If that plan has a mandate, it is wrong and I will vote and campaign against anybody who supports it.
Doesn’t mean I’m not going to give Gary’s post a chance though.

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