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Posted by Weary Willie at July 4, 2011 10:44 PM
Comment #325292

Did you notice how the last 10 or so amendments were reduced to phyco babble? And they had a 7 year limit, yet a 200 year old amendment was ratified in 1992 to guarantee government employees a raise every year unless they said they didn’t want it?

Why would an amendment application submitted in the late 18th century be valid in the late 20th century when others are discounted because of age?

Why was the 7 year section included in some of our amendments and not others?

We should start looking at our country as a game of Monopoly and start playing that game in earnest. We should also recognize that there are no rules in Monopoly that contradict the 10 commandments and the Bill of Rights.

A common person’s sensibilities should disregard the amendments that offend him as unjust and have no defense. There is no shame in correcting our father’s mistakes!

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 5, 2011 12:32 AM
Comment #325294

Talk about psycho-babble !

Posted by: jane doe at July 5, 2011 1:45 AM
Comment #325325

“Obama tries to stop execution in Texas of Mexican killer

US president warns Texan authorities that execution would put America in breach of international legal obligations”

“The White House has asked the US supreme court to put the execution of Humberto Leal Garcia on hold while Congress passes a law that would prevent the convicted rapist and murderer from being put to death along with dozens of other foreign nationals who were denied proper access to diplomatic representation before trials for capital crimes.”

Here we go again, messiah obama sticking his nose in States rights again. Why don’t we just give the illegal murdering SOB a path to citizenship? This shows just how out of touch Obama is with America. My guess is that SD will be the only Texan voting for obama in 2012.

Posted by: Conservativethinker at July 6, 2011 4:41 AM
Comment #325326

WW, thank you for the videos. It is a shame that so many Americans have no idea what brought about the freedoms of America. I’m sure that many would still rather live under the tyranny of a King.

The question has been brought up by both political sides, who is the most patriotic? The left claims the right is ignorant of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and I might say in a very condescending way; the right, on the other side, accuses the left of wanting to re-write the Constitution and the Bill of Rights because they are outdated and need to be changed.
Can these studies by Harvard University actually be believed:
“”Fourth of July celebrations in the United States shape the nation’s political landscape by forming beliefs and increasing participation, primarily in favor of the Republican Party,” said the report from Harvard…

“The political right has been more successful in appropriating American patriotism and its symbols during the 20th century. Survey evidence also confirms that Republicans consider themselves more patriotic than Democrats. According to this interpretation, there is a political congruence between the patriotism promoted on Fourth of July and the values associated with the Republican party. Fourth of July celebrations in Republican dominated counties may thus be more politically biased events that socialize children into Republicans,” write Harvard Kennedy School Assistant Professor David Yanagizawa-Drott and Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam.”

If you add to this, what seems to be a concerted effort by the left (through the ACLU and other local governments) to ban the American flag in some places; it does appear that Republicans are more patriotic.,2933,242965,00.html

“A high school student in Northglenn is upset that campus security told him to remove the large American flags flying from his pickup truck because it might make others uncomfortable.

Jeremy Stoppel told 7NEWS he got a ticket at Northglenn High School last Thursday for squealing his tires. He said he deserved that ticket and deserved having his parking lot pass suspended for two weeks.

But he’s upset that campus security then told him he can’t fly his 3 feet by 5 feet flags in the bed of his pickup truck anymore.

“She said I should take my flags down. She said this is a school that focuses on diversity and she doesn’t want anyone to feel uncomfortable,”Stoppel said. “How do you suppose anyone would feel uncomfortable in America with an American flag? That’s where I’m confused.”

The place where students should be learning about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights is in the public, taxpayer funded school systems; but instead the teachings of these basic principles of Americanism are being dumbed down.

Posted by: Mike at July 6, 2011 10:35 AM
Comment #325327

“Here we go again, messiah obama sticking his nose in States rights again.”

Well, you should add GW Bush to the messiah list because he also backed the ruling of the ICJ and issued an executive memorandum in support of halting the Texas execution. See, “Court backs Texas in dispute with Bush”

Posted by: Rich at July 6, 2011 11:29 AM
Comment #325328

I should add that the Bush case “Medellin v. Texas” case was a different Mexican national but the legal arguments were the same. The only difference is that there is now a bill before Congress providing for the extention of the treaty obligations to the states.

Posted by: Rich at July 6, 2011 11:37 AM
Comment #325334

Perhaps Rich could tell me why I care what Bush has supported or not supported? I am not concerned about Bush, but I am concerned why our current President is interfering with the execution of an illegal Mexican who was found guilty, beyond a shadow of doubt, with brutally raping and killing a 16 year old girl. I certainly hope this has nothing to do with politics.

Posted by: Mike at July 6, 2011 5:24 PM
Comment #325335

Harvard Kennedy School Assistant Professor David Yanagizawa-Drott
Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam.

It would be interesting to learn where these people get the money to do this study. The whole premise of the study is bias. It’s an opinion of someone who chooses to sit outside the mainstream of America and draw a conclusion. So What? Paul Bedard is astute to see this. A bunch of cartoons are also available in his article.

The union guy says, Sure, we’ll take down our stuff. And to get even, we’ll slap an american flag decal right in the middle of every one of those empty lockers! That’ll really shake them up! Make sure you all put it in the same place on your locker! To show our solidarity!

Lockers are company property allotted to people. They should respect the outside of their locker as much as they respect the outside of their home. They should respect the inside of that property the same way they would receive guests inside their home. They should also keep in mind the rental agreement.
I don’t know if it’s a ban more than it is an effort to clean the place up. Who knows? There are no pictures. Just someone saying so.

Uncomfortable? Unbelievable? What was the condition of his flag after a week in the back of his truck? I’m just asking, squealing tires and all. The security guard stepped out of bounds, but the author of the article hit the nail on the head in his introduction.

Thanks for the links, Mike. I enjoyed your comment. It takes an individual to pursue an individual’s happiness.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 6, 2011 5:39 PM
Comment #325337

Mike, I believe Rich was talking to me, but I can understand why people would be concerned why obama is involving himself in Texas law, seems like he already has more on his plate than he can handle.

Posted by: Conservativethinker at July 6, 2011 6:03 PM
Comment #325339

Ct and mike,

I was simply pointing out that in the Texas death penalty cases involving Mexican nationals, that it wasn’t an exclusively Obama or Bush policy. Both the Bush and Obama administrations were attempting to comply with what they perceived to be a treaty obligation of the US. However, there was a technicality in the law of treaties which requires the US Congress to pass enabling legislation in the US making the treaty applicable to the states. That legislation is winding its way through Congress but will not be passed before the execution. Obama was asking Texas to defer execution pending the passage of the legislation. Texas declined.

Posted by: Rich at July 6, 2011 9:22 PM
Comment #325340

And why would Texas want to comply with Obama’s requests? I sure that he is not well received in Texas.

Posted by: Mike at July 6, 2011 9:45 PM
Comment #325342
And why would Texas want to comply with Obama’s requests? I sure that he is not well received in Texas.

Perhaps, Mike, because some day some Texan will be held in some country on some charge and then Texans will come whining to the State department to do something to help the Texan out. Unfortunately the US won’t have much of a leg to stand on because of Texas and the inability of Congress to address the issue. Taking the moral low ground will only hurt us in the long run. Remember Texans, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 7, 2011 12:14 AM
Comment #325343

Your idea is basically that we should be able to do whatever we want to. What you fail to take into account is that if we go off setting precedent in such a direction, it encourages others to do the same.

You cannot write policy as if we’re the only sovereign nation in the world, and expect the best results. What Republicans really have been doing with foreign policy is exposing the limits of American influence, limits that are only compounded when folks actually think to put them to the test.

Of course, you have to make it out like Obama actually wants to keep the guy from being punished, say, for the unrealistic reason that he’s just that evil. The truth is, though, he’s probably trying to avoid an international incident that will damage relations with our biggest trading partner, our closest neighbor, and, yeah, the folks we have that drug trade and illegal alien problem with.

Republicans need to shift-and I think they’re completely capable of this-towards a political philosophy that acknowledges that in the real world, you can’t get everything you want.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at July 7, 2011 8:07 AM
Comment #325344

Well, here we go again, with SD spreading his knowledge of everything known to mankind:

“You cannot write policy as if we’re the only sovereign nation in the world, and expect the best results. What Republicans really have been doing with foreign policy is exposing the limits of American influence, limits that are only compounded when folks actually think to put them to the test.”

Obama has done more too hurt American influence than any previous president, except for maybe Jimmy Carter:

“More bad news, Mr President… Obama is no longer the ‘world’s most powerful man’

Barack Obama’s disastrous week was complete today when he was toppled from the number one spot as the world’s most powerful man.

Fresh from his battering in Tuesday’s mid-term elections, the President learned that Forbes magazine has named Chinese president Hu Jintao as the lead figure in the magazine’s Most Powerful People on Earth list.”

“In June, 15 U.S. servicemen died in Iraq, the highest monthly casualty figure there in more than two years. The U.S. has attributed all the attacks to Shiite militias it says are are trained by the Revolutionary Guards, rather than al Qaeda or other Sunni groups that were the most lethal forces inside Iraq a few years ago.”

One military leader said yesterday on a news program that Iran is supplying weapons to Iraq, and they are no longer even trying to hide the fact they are doing so. The reason why; because obama is all talk and absolutely no threat to any of our enemies. Teddy Roosevelt said “walk softly and carry a big stick”, but obama is walking boisterously, for the arrogant SOB he is, and carrying a limp noodle. Stephen, you will never convince anyone that obama has a backbone and the rest of the world knows that he is all talk and no action.

“In 2004, the international court of justice (ICJ) ruled that the US authorities had failed to meet its legal obligations to 51 Mexicans awaiting execution in American prisons when they were not informed of their right to contact their consulates.

The then president, George W Bush, a former Texas governor who backs the death penalty, said the US would adhere to the ICJ ruling which, in effect, meant the death sentences would be reviewed or commuted. But in 2008 the supreme court ruled that while the US government was obliged to comply with the ICJ ruling it did not have the power to force individual American states to do so. Only Congress could require adherence by passing a law.

The Obama administration has told the supreme court that a bill has recently been introduced in to the Senate to do just that but it is unlikely to win the approval of both houses of Congress before next year. The White House wants Leal’s execution put on hold until the law is passed but two courts have already ruled that pending legislation has no effect on the legal process.”

Texas is within its rights to kill this murderer. And the obama administration will NEVER get legislation passed that would change anything. This is purely another case of gaining political advantage. Obama, as usual, rather than make a black or white judgment, wants to stay in that grey territory again. He is a fence rider; he wants to keep his existing voter support and also gain support from the Mexican-American vote.

This murderer lived in the United State since he was two. He had full access to the American legal system and American attorneys. He had multiple appeals. There is no question that he is guilty. In the United States, capital crimes are strictly the preview of the several states, unless the crime is committed against a federal employee. His access to the consulate from a country he never lived in would make NO DIFFERENCE to his guilt or innocence or to the punishment. I’m sure that the state of Texas will allow representatives for Mexico to view the execution. Maybe they can go home and tell their countrymen to not come here and kill anyone, because we will execute for the crime.

Correct me if I am wrong Stephen, but obama could give a presidential pardon at any time. And why doesn’t he; because the American people would be furious, so he will try to do it through legal maneuvering and at the same time gain Hispanic support for his concern of illegals.

Perhaps SD could quote the treaty that forces America to let illegal murderers go?

“Illegal, Medellin, executed for rape, murder of Houston teens
Posted on Wednesday, August 06 @ 00:14:19 EDT
Topic: Illegal Immigrant Gangs Terrorists

HUNTSVILLE — The state of Texas defied an international court tonight and executed Jose Medellin for raping and murdering two teenage girls 15 years ago.

About a half-hour earlier, the U.S. Supreme Court had rejected a last-minute appeal to stay the execution, originally scheduled for 6 p.m.

Medellin was pronounced dead at 9:57 p.m., nine minutes after the lethal dose was administered.

As the court deliberated earlier, opposing groups of protesters gathered outside the death house. When the prison clock chimed six, a group of U.S. Border Watch members and others broke into cheers, thinking the execution had occurred.”

Perhaps SD could also enlighten us as to the universal implications of the execution of this, another murdering illegal, in Texas. The left is always defending the downtrodden, the illegal, the murdering SOB’s. And again I say, obama can commute his sentence at any given moment.

To the left, everything is based upon fear mongering.

Posted by: Conservativethinker at July 7, 2011 9:32 AM
Comment #325345

This is the United States of America. We have our own laws. Why do we care what other nations do with their judicial system, if they have a legitimate one? Why should be allow other nations laws trump our laws? The Supreme Court has in the past looked at Europe and use that influence in making decisions. That is terribly wrong. We are not a signatory to the UCJ. There decisions should mean nothing to us particularly when we are dealing with issues inside our borders. Obama has once again shown the true valueless system he is pushing.


You are absolutely ignorant on this issue. And to try to make it a republican/democrat issue is beyond the pale. Shame on you.

“The truth is, though, he’s probably trying to avoid an international incident that will damage relations with our biggest trading partner, our closest neighbor, and, yeah, the folks we have that drug trade and illegal alien problem with.”

Your comedy still won’t cut it on prime time. Every time you write something that says we should or should not do something because of creating an international incident, it reminds me of Tiny Tim and his song “Tiptoe Through The Tulips”. We should just enforce our laws and let the devil be damned. If Mexico doesn’t like it, too bad. Do they give us any consideration in their laws where our citizens are involved? Are you kidding?

Posted by: tom humes at July 7, 2011 12:12 PM
Comment #325349

tom humes

ya here’s an example of mexicos stellar justice system. remember this story?

i know i really give a rats a$$ what mexico thinks of our justice system.

Posted by: dbs at July 7, 2011 12:49 PM
Comment #325357


Mexico sure does not enforce their own laws against their own citizens. They are a mockery and a joke to justice. They have watched too many Western/Mexican black and white movies and then patterned their move forward based on what was in those movies. It sure looks that way.

Furthermore why do we let Mexico have a say about our lows (sic per President Calderone)?

Put me in charge of the border and in less than 30 days I will have our border secure and when the physical logistics are finished the border will be even more secure. Care to join me?lol

Posted by: tom humes at July 7, 2011 2:43 PM
Comment #325358

There’s a show on TV called “Locked up Abroad”, might I suggest for SD to watch it. Then he will understand the justice Americans get in foreign nations. I have traveled abroad many times in my life and there is no place like home. Don’t ever expect to be treated well in foreign nations, because they do not have the same laws as we do; but SD and the rest of the libs would like to throw out our Constitution and adopt Europe’s form of government.

Posted by: Conservativethinker at July 7, 2011 3:00 PM
Comment #325362

The legislation is pending?

Surely the Republicans that have control of the House will not pass this egregious attack on states rights.

Conservatives are now forewarned, get those emails flowing. See how well you do at blocking the desires of the multinational corporations and their demands to globalize our laws and open our borders. While you are emailing, demand another tax break for these corporations.

I love it when conservatives cry about the dastardly deeds they support with their votes. If they were real men, they would face reality head on rather than trying to scapegoat Obama for everything under the sun.

NAFTA was produced by the Regan Administration, negotiated by the Bush Administration, signed by Clinton, and began to roll during the Bush Administration. It seems to me that conservatives should acknowledge that Obama is supporting the conservative cause.

The open borders, the drug cartels, foreign council for murders, submission of U.S. law to international law, are all products stemming from NAFTA. All courtesy of the conservative wave that swept the Republicans into power and the contributions to politicians by the corporations. Reforming U.S. laws to conform to international standards are part of any free trade agreement.

FREE TRADE, NO TAXES, FREE TRADE, NO TAXES, FREE TRADE, NO TAXES. The mantra that is music to conservative ears.

Posted by: jlw at July 7, 2011 4:17 PM
Comment #325363

This link adds context to the videos in my original post.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 7, 2011 4:33 PM
Comment #325368

Scratch one illegal murderer:

“HUNTSVILLE, Texas (AP) — Texas executed a Mexican citizen Thursday for the rape-slaying of a teenager after he and the White House pleaded in vain for a Supreme Court stay, saying he was denied help from his home country that could have helped him avoid the death penalty.

In his last minutes, Humberto Leal repeatedly said he was sorry and accepted responsibility.

“I have hurt a lot of people. … I take full blame for everything. I am sorry for what I did,” he said in the death chamber.

“One more thing,” he said as the drugs began taking effect. Then he shouted twice, “Viva Mexico!”

“Ready warden,” he said. “Let’s get this show on the road.”

We’ll see if obama’s predictions come true, or if it was just political posturing…

Posted by: Conservativethinker at July 7, 2011 9:30 PM
Comment #325469

When is Perry going to announce his candidacy for the tea party nomination?

As far as I am concerned, this guy got what he deserved, but I am not naive enough to think this wasn’t a political decision by Perry, or that his decision was an anti-free market act.

Controlled national borders and national regulations are profit killing entities that have no place in a free market world.

America is a large country with plenty of room for millions more low wage workers that can help to break the worker/government anti-profit, high tax measures.

Posted by: jlw at July 9, 2011 2:08 PM
Comment #325518

Hey, jlw, your (tea party) straw man has your liberal friends cawwing all day long and I’d rather have, not danrather have, your liberal friends cawwing at straw men then have them passing laws that take away my individual liberty.

Keep up the good work, jlw.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 9, 2011 9:51 PM
Comment #325597

WW, no more so that your whiners want to take my rights away. When it comes to deciding what rights we should or shouldn’t have, it is a two way street. Is that some of your buddies down the street protesting the gay marriage? It is a shame how those liberals are allowing gays to violate the rights of good people.

Posted by: jlw at July 11, 2011 6:41 PM
Comment #325598

WW, you should know by now that my liberal friends and I are often at odds with each other. I personally think it is sad when Stephen D. has to defend a conservative free market rule, like this one, against attacks from conservatives.

Like I said, the House Republicans have the power to kill the legislation and possibly void NAFTA and it’s open borders. Do you think they will?

Posted by: jlw at July 11, 2011 7:14 PM
Comment #325607

I am so glad Liberals are at odds with each other. When they are divided they are insignificant.

That sounds like a good starting point to me. A very good starting point.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2011 9:28 PM
Comment #325679

I guess it beats responding to questions.

Posted by: jlw at July 13, 2011 2:49 PM
Comment #325710

Oh! Yea! Questions!

Do I think they will repeal anything, jlw? I don’t! In fact, I think the question was ignorant and irrelevent.

Government has never repealed a law that didn’t favor the government.

The laws being passed now favor the government.

Even the dumb ones.

Freedom is in big trouble, jlw. It’s time for you to realize that!

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 13, 2011 10:12 PM
Comment #325730

That law doesn’t favor the government. As a matter of fact it has caused the government nothing but heartache and harassment. That law favors capital and the free market to the detriment of the American people that have to live with the increased violence and bear the increased costs associated with illegal immigration, which was also done for the benefit of capital.

That is what government has been doing, passing one bill after another favoring capital. Deregulation favored capital. The Bush tax cuts favored capital. The Bush prescription drug act favored capital. Obama care favors capital (health insurers).

Freedom is in big trouble, it is under attack by capital that is not interested in other peoples freedom near as much as their own.

Posted by: jlw at July 14, 2011 12:23 PM
Comment #325731

P.S., the government passed legislation providing tax incentives for American companies to move their production overseas. That cost the people millions of jobs and the government millions of taxpayers, but capital greased the palms of politicians lucratively for the gift.

Posted by: jlw at July 14, 2011 12:40 PM
Comment #325740

You made my point very well, jlw.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 14, 2011 4:25 PM
Comment #325762

jlw, what law are you refering to? I’m confused. Is it the law that was explained in my original post?

That law,

That law doesn’t favor the government. As a matter of fact it has caused the government nothing but heartache and harassment.

is the U.S. Constitution, jlw. And Yes, it has caused the government it’s heartaches and harassment.

Isn’t that true, jlw?

Would you danrather rid us of the U.S. Constitution? ..To releave the government of it’s heartaches and harassment?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 14, 2011 9:42 PM
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