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Stick a fork in them

What a disappointment these knights in shining armor have turned out to be. Coming into the House of Representatives with a majority not seen in over 50 years, the Tea Party/Republican’s promised much and have delivered little good to date. Riding the wave of tea party support these new members of Congress were different weren’t they? They promised jobs, They promised to get rid of pork and earmarks , they promised liberty, they promised…

Oh who cares, these tea party backed candidates are so busy packing pork in the defense authorization bill that they really don't have have time to worry about the economy, the debt or the promised they made to the people. They only have time to help their corporate sponsors get their entitlement monies from the government.

These provisions are able to slip through the House-wide earmark moratorium through careful wording. The recipients are not specified in the legislative language, but they are written in such a way as to virtually guarantee that intended recipient ends up with the money “

They promised us liberty, yes more personal liberty yet they are giving up their constitutional mandated responsibilities to declare war to the administrative branch. And us with a closet Muslim ,according to many conservatives, running the white house, go figure.

“The House is expected to vote soon on a bill that hands over to the president Congress' constitutional authority to declare and authorize war, substantially altering the delicate balance of powers that the Founding Fathers envisioned. “

They were big on personal liberty weren't they? It seems they mean corporate liberty though as they kept the Patriot Act as is.

“Later today, the U.S. Senate will take a step toward reauthorizing the most controversial provisions of the PATRIOT Act for four more years. The Senate may not allow any amendments to fix the problematic portions of this law.”

They promised jobs they delivered uncertainty. Uncertainty in the form of a credit default by the United States government. Threatening to put the government into default creates job, how? It is time to come back to reality and govern this country from the center not the extreme right.

Posted by j2t2 at May 23, 2011 7:08 PM
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The “tea party” momentum was based on an amorphous anti-incumbency feeling. Things aren’t good, it must be their fault. Unfortunately, the “tea party” has failed to offer any realistic alternative. In fact, the public is coming to realize that they maybe actually worse than the “bums” they threw out.

Posted by: Rich at May 23, 2011 8:21 PM
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A majority not seen for 50 years FOR REPUBLICANS. Democrats had big majorities since the elections of 2006 AND they also held the Senate.

So things were not so good 2006-10. People voted to change that. Republicans have had control of one part of Congress for five months. They are not even half way through the first half of their term. The Democrats couldn’t even pass a budget at all when they were in charge.

But despite all this, we are still working with the budget proposed by Democrats who controlled congress and the presidency. This lack of jobs belongs to president Obama and the Democrats.

And you are upset that President Obama has pushed the limits of war and that Republicans may support a liberal Democratic president in this respect?

When Democrats won in 2006, I wrote that I would not criticize them for a year, since that is about how long it takes for a policy to start to work - or not. So the year of 2007 we left it alone. We may recall what happened in 2008 when Democrats had their chance.

Posted by: C&J at May 23, 2011 8:51 PM
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A majority not seen for 50 years FOR REPUBLICANS.

C&J,I thought it was clear I was referring to repubs, C&J but I see it was not. You are correct.
Pork and earmarks, the mainstay of tea party ideology and then can’t stop themselves from eating at the trough. What will they be like in a year if this is how they are out of the chutes?

Rich I agree with you, in fact I always thought the tea party was lacking any viable alternatives. Hopefully the public does see through them and can undo the damage come election time.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 23, 2011 9:10 PM
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You were indeed clear. But it was still misleading. Democrats were in much firmer control for much of our lifetimes. Recently 2007-11, Democrats had greater control than almost anybody can remember. The 2007-11 period was not a good one. That is why the Democrats lost. They got blamed for what they did. You can blame Republicans next year, but it is way early.

Beyond that, we are living in an economy shaped by Obama policies, when he was backed by massive Democratic majorities. How have they done?

Posted by: C&J at May 23, 2011 10:04 PM
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C&J wrote: The Democrats couldn’t even pass a budget at all when they were in charge.

C&J, exactly how many budget initiatives presented by Democrats did Republicans block with either threatened or physical filibusters from 2006 to 2009?

I already know the answer and will gladly show the proof.

I just want to see what fictitious load of historical-rewrite or excuse/justification you’ll come up with to sanctify it all.

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at May 23, 2011 10:28 PM
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C&J, the intentional damage to the economy was a decade in the making. The debt from 2 unfunded wars while cutting taxes. The Medicare “reform” of 2003 that was unfunded, it all adds up. The Obama policies were created by the same Geithner, Summers and Rubin that were part of the problem. They have been fixing their own screw ups as they attempt to rebuild the foundation of the economy after the bottom fell out in ‘08. The dems have not done enough to stop the bleeding of decent jobs, the alternative is to tell us tax cuts will solve the jobs issue. We both know that isn’t the answer. We both know the days of decent jobs are behind us for many Americans as we have watched them go overseas. Those that have not disappeared due to technological changes that is. The repubs, when they were not such an extremist party didn’t have many answers, now that they have moved so far to the right they have even less answers.

The tea party backed candidates are bought and paid for by the likes of the Koch brothers. They are the problem, not the answer.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 23, 2011 10:35 PM
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The problem for Republicans is that it was never really about what the public wanted. It was about their agenda, their power, and getting back into a position to do what they wanted.

Bait and Switch. Talk up jobs, jobs, jobs, and then come back, do nothing about jobs, and govern not only like they never left the majority, but like they won the Presidency, the Senate, and the complete, unconditional approval from every voter to do whatever they wanted. You have to give them points for confidence, but not for reading the political situation well.

I hope someday to see moderation return to the party, and better synchrony with the wishes and needs of the people.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 25, 2011 6:46 AM
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