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Mike Huckabee: A-hole of the week

During a televised interview this week, on Fox News of course, former Arkansas Governor and potential 2012 presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee slammed Natalie Portman for “glamorizing unwed pregnancy.”

While Huckabee praised Portman as a “very brilliant and admirable actress,” he suggested her pregnancy sends a bad message to the country.

No, what sends a bad message is yet another asshole politician trying to force his faux-religious social agenda down the throats of the American public.

“She got up, she was very visibly pregnant,” Huckabee said. “And it’s really it’s a problem because she’s about seven months pregnant. It’s her first pregnancy, and she and the baby’s father aren’t married, and before two billion people, Natalie Portman says, ‘Oh I want to thank my love and he’s given me the most wonderful gift.’ He didn’t give her the most wonderful gift, which would be a wedding ring! And it just seems to me that sending that kind of message is problematic.”

Hey Huck, did you consult Levi Johnston about what his views are on this “shameful, shameless travesty against God”? What are Sarah Palin’s thoughts on what a disgrace unwed motherhood is? She must agree that it’s “problematic.” Otherwise, she wouldn’t have personally used her gubernatorial line-item veto to slash the funding for an unwed mother’s assistance program in Alaska. (See related article, "
Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms
")

The former governor, who is also a pundit on Fox News, called Portman’s pregnancy “troubling” and suggested it might “glorify and glamorize” the idea of having children outside of marriage.

You mean like the way Bristol Palin’s unwed pregnancy glorifies and glamorizes the idea?

Huckabee argued that most single mothers aren’t in the same position as Portman in terms of her lifestyle and resources.

Oh .. so as long as the woman gets knocked up but is wealthy, then it’s okay? Oh … wait … I forgot. When Republicans get knocked up without being married, they’re practicing “good, solid, pro-life ethics and morals.” I can’t help but notice that you had no hesitation when you blocked a federal judge’s order and prevented Medicaid funding for teen abortions.

“There aren’t really a lot of single moms out there who are making millions of dollars every year for being in a movie,” Huckabee said.

And there are even fewer single moms out there who are appearing on “Dancing with the Stars” and having a ridiculous “memoir” ghost-written at age 20, and who *ARE* famous for no other reason than *BECAUSE* she’s an unwed mother.

At least Natalie Portman has:

  1. an advanced collegiate degree from Harvard;
  2. a solid and well-founded professional career;
  3. brains enough to have not gotten knocked up when she was 16 and partying after dropping out of high school; and
  4. enough integrity to not charge people $30,000 per appearance to travel around the country on a lecture tour promoting abstinence and personal responsibility under the banner “Don’t f*ck up the way I did.”

“And I think it gives a distorted image,” Huckabee said. “Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can’t get a job, and if it weren’t for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have health care. And that’s the story that we’re not seeing.”

And yet, Huckabee has no qualms about supporting the Republican mantra that the “obvious” answer to this horrific unwed mother problem is to slash the funding to any and all government programs that exist to help them, right? So, what’s your message here, Huck? “Don’t get knocked up unless you can profit from it”?

Could this ass-clown be *ANY* more of a hypocrite?

Here are his comments about Bristol Palin’s teen pregnancy in 2008, as published in Christianity Today (unless that’s suddenly become a left-wing hotbed of lies, too):

"The way the media went after Bristol Palin, the daughter, is the most shameful thing I’ve ever seen in my life. If anything, it just caused to run to her. Everyone understands that the basis of being a Christian is that everyone has fallen short of God’s ideal. Everyone understands that ... We all mess up, the issue is how we respond to it. What she showed us is exactly what we wanted to see in terms of a witness." ~ Mike Huckabee, Christianity Today, September 5, 2008

Here's the article in Christianity Today for you to stamp your feet in denial over.

And just so we don't tag Huckabee as a two-faced schmuck in only the political arena, here are his comments about Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy at 16:

"It's a tragedy when a 16-year-old who is not really prepared for all the responsibilities of adult life is going to be now faced with all the responsibilities of honest-to-goodness adult life. I respect it."
"Apparently, she's going to have the child and I think that is the right decision, a good decision, and I respect that and appreciate it. I hope it is not an encouragement to other 16-year-olds who think that is the best course of action."
"But at the same time I'm not going to condemn her. There'll be plenty of people in line to do that and I always look for the shortest lines. I just hope that she will make another right decision and that's to give that child all the love and kindness and care that she can."

The complete interview is HERE and HERE.

Hey Huckabee! Do you know who else was born to a woman who wasn’t married to the father? Jesus Christ.

Preach that, “reverend.”

Posted by Gary St. Lawrence at March 4, 2011 4:50 PM
Comments
Comment #319627


“Could this ass-clown be *Any* more of a hypocrite?”

Yes he can, give him some more time.

Glorify as referring to the Van Susteren interview on Fox News where Bristol said abstinence is “not realistic at all.”

Posted by: jlw at March 4, 2011 6:40 PM
Comment #319628

We’ve had this discussing over 20 years ago. I guess it’s time to rehash it for political fodder.

Joseph was a devoted father and husband, Gary St. Lawrence. If you don’t know what your talking about then find another method of amusement.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 4, 2011 6:45 PM
Comment #319629

Gary

If you are rich or have a lot of family support, it is easier to support a child. That should be not very hard to understand.

Perhaps you know some of the poorer girls who got pregnant and became single mothers. Advance fifteen years. How well are they and their kids doing compared to those who chose other courses?

When talking about self-destructive behaviors, it is always a difficult balance between stigmatizing w/o stigmatizing the individual.

There are lots of things that someone like Natalie Portman can do that ordinary people cannot. The same goes for Bristol Palin. Because they have resources that others do not.

If you point was to try to stoke up hatred for Bristol Palin, I suppose you accomplished that with some of our more credulous readers. If you wanted to trash Huckabee, you probably were successful with people who already didn’t like him.

I doubt that you are trying to be as venal as either of those two things, but it is difficult to tell what you were trying to convey.

Posted by: C&J at March 4, 2011 6:46 PM
Comment #319631


What he actually said:

Posted as “the world’s greatest fool” by late night comedians for his misspelling of “potatoe” and his remarks about the Murphy Brown sitcom, the Vice President has suffered in the polls as a result of media backlash. But just how laughable was the real thing? Here is an excerpt from the infamous “Murphy Brown speech” so that you can judge for yourself:
Posted by: Weary Willie at March 4, 2011 7:02 PM
Comment #319660

I find it interesting that generalizations these days are only acceptable if they demonize conservatives and their values, or white males. But if a conservative asks the sane and fair question, “Is this a good idea for society” they are bigots, intolerant, racist, homophobes, and sexist and every other label under the sun.

Here’s a great way to see if you even have a moral compass… ask yourself:

If everyone who was in a similar position to me, did what I am choosing to do, would the world be a better or worse place?

It’s a fair question, and the reason I’m not big fans of Jehovah’s witnesses. While I’m also not a big Huckabee fan, if every woman decided to have babies out of wedlock, the world would clearly NOT be the better for it, so in my opinion, that choice does send a less than ideal message. But considering that 95% of every message that comes out of the mouth or actions of Hollywood also sends a less than ideal, or just plain horrible, message - it isn’t surprising.

Saying that doesn’t make her an axe murderer, you’d think the derision aimed at Huckabee over this red herring would have been based on something awful - for crying out loud, he just said it sends a bad message. He didn’t say she’s a stupid whore and should be shot, get a grip.

And where has Huckabee ever praised Bristol Palin for any decision she has ever made? Connecting those two dots is a huge stretch at best. Just because Sara Palin is conservative doesn’t mean Huckabee thinks that her daughter is lily white on everything. I’ve met Bristol Palin and my wife sang at Sara Palin’s governor inaugural ball, I’m a conservative, and the only thing Bristol Palin has ever done in her life was get knocked up. She’s just a foolish kid who floosied around with an immeasurably more foolish kid, and I would love you to cite some verifiable Huckabee quote where he praises her for her choices and the message it sends.

Do you have a reference like that, or are you just throwing poo around hoping some of it will stick?

Posted by: Yukon Jake at March 4, 2011 10:58 PM
Comment #319667

Yes, Willie, Joseph of Arimithea was a devoted father and husband, but he wasn’t the biological father of Jesus Christ, now was he, Willie? If the whole “immaculate conception” story is to be believed, then Mary had a child with someone who was NOT her husband. So which fable are you putting all your chips on, Willie?

And as for Huckabee’s defense of Bristol Palin, here you go:

“The way the media went after Bristol Palin, the daughter, is the most shameful thing I’ve ever seen in my life. If anything, it just caused to run to her. Everyone understands that the basis of being a Christian is that everyone has fallen short of God’s ideal. Everyone understands that … We all mess up, the issue is how we respond to it. What she showed us is exactly what we wanted to see in terms of a witness.” ~ Mike Huckabee, Christianity Today, September 5, 2008

Here’s the article in Christianity Today for you to stamp your feet in denial over.

And just so we don’t tag Huckabee as a two-faced schmuck in only the political arena, here are his comments about Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy at 16:

“It’s a tragedy when a 16-year-old who is not really prepared for all the responsibilities of adult life is going to be now faced with all the responsibilities of honest-to-goodness adult life. I respect it.”
“Apparently, she’s going to have the child and I think that is the right decision, a good decision, and I respect that and appreciate it. I hope it is not an encouragement to other 16-year-olds who think that is the best course of action.”
“But at the same time I’m not going to condemn her. There’ll be plenty of people in line to do that and I always look for the shortest lines. I just hope that she will make another right decision and that’s to give that child all the love and kindness and care that she can.”

The complete interview is HERE

And HERE

Shall I continue, or do you need some more reality to thoroughly muck up your GOP-at-any-cost goosestepping?


Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at March 5, 2011 1:57 AM
Comment #319686

Gary

The Mary & Jesus comparison is silly. We talked about having resources. Presumably, if your father is God, you have some important connections. Mary also was not a single mother, by the customs of the time. She continued in a relationship with Joesph for the rest of their lives and they raised Jesus in an intact household.

The simple fact is that it is hard to raise children well under any circumstance. It is a matter of the odds. It may be that a stable family makes mistakes with kids and that a single mother does all the right things. But as with anything in life, you have to assess the probabilities.

Consider the case of a stable family relationship. If you remove the father, along with his income and influence, do you think the life chances of the children increase or decrease? If you cannot answer that question, I suggest you stay away from any investment activities and never go anywhere near any games of chance.

A rich single mother can afford help, such as day care, cleaning services, as well as good schools etc. It is cruel to compare a poor single mother with that situation and stupid to encourage her to have children in her already difficult situation. She MIGHT be okay, just like you and I might consistently win big at Los Vegas, but the odds are against it. This is what Huckabee is saying. Do you really disagree with him on this?

And the goosestepping tended to be done in places where government control of the economy was strong and persistent and where government officials were convinced that they knew what was best for the people they ruled. Institutions that competed with the state were, such as religion or even organizations like the Boy Scouts were suppressed or subsumed by the state authorities. In these places, economies were planned, national health care was compulsorily and people were organized into groups and syndicates based on their putative characteristics, some receiving special affirmative benefits from government programs. I won’t use the l-word that you find so offensive, but such a system certainly doesn’t seem like one where an American conservative would thrive.

Posted by: C&J at March 5, 2011 10:49 AM
Comment #319697

Interesting that not a single poster debated the title.

Posted by: Ray at March 5, 2011 3:16 PM
Comment #319699

Ray

We cannot debate an insult. When you call someone a name, it is not meant to create debate. I am sure we could all name someone we think is the a-hole of the week.

We did debate the underlying information & the inadequate backup.

Posted by: C&J at March 5, 2011 3:46 PM
Comment #319713

Inadequate backup?!?

I showed the man’s OWN WORDS proving that his disdain for unwed mothers depends on which political audience he’s addressing and at what stage of his political campaigning.

http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/007436.html

He PRAISED Bristol Palin and Jamie Lynn Spears for being knocked up as teenagers, but slams Natalie Portman for being an engaged adult mother-to-be?

Funny how you don’t seem to have much to say in THAT thread where all the Huckabee quotes are.

The only thing inadequate around here, C&J, is your ability to see outside your tunnel.

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at March 5, 2011 5:44 PM
Comment #319722

Gary

All the world is awed by such a searing intellect. You cannot expect a simple guy like me to understand it.

I was simply confused. Your title was that Huckabee was the a-hole of the week. IMO, there are plenty of better candidates, who did nastier things last week. In a week where Qaddafi has murdered hundreds or thousands of his people of his people and John Galliano, from Christian Dior, says he loves Hitler, it is hard to believe that Huckbee would win the A-hole title for a few comments about Portman. But if you think that is the worst thing that happened this week, I believe you are telling the truth about your own opinons.

I have no dog in the Huckabee fight, which is why I don’t jump to his defense in general. You can hate him all you want as a general proposition. My concern here was that what he said about single mothers was on the mark.

Posted by: C&J at March 5, 2011 8:04 PM
Comment #319725

I have removed several comments that were off-topic or that were straying into negative, name-calling territory.

I have also unpublished Gary’s latest post, because it was pretty much saying the same thing as the post above.

Posted by: WatchBlog Publisher at March 5, 2011 8:42 PM
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