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Sometimes Weary these buzzwords you hear like “innovation” or “stifles competition” are just that. Sometimes it is a two way street, the corporations want to stifle competition and innovation(of others of course) and do so by writing the rules and regulations you speak of. If we get them out of buying our representatives we could be on our way to fixing some of these issues. But as long as people continue to believe this type of stuff is all one sided it seems it will only get worse.
Posted by: j2t2 at February 26, 2011 11:40 PM
Step 11: Continue to bring back manufacturing. Why? So we as a country can maintain our ability to innovate. Necessity is the mother of innovation and without the challenge of finding new ways we will fall behind the rest of the world.
Posted by j2t2 at February 27, 2011 12:22 PM

Thanks, j2t2. It seems much better when you put it that way.

Back in the 70's sole proprietor was just a guy running a business. He owned his business and it was his reputation as well. He bought inventory, he attracted customers, he spent his profits at his neighbors business. Back in the 70's... What came first, the chicken or the egg? To the best of my recollection, Indemnity was the rage, and sole proprietor found it prudent to become a corporation... For protection. Recently I attended a function, sponsored by my local government, held at my new "community center", describing how to start a new business. Most of the discussion centered around the formation of a corporation and liability. i.e. protection.

Back then, the sole proprietor was just a guy running his business, until a union convinced his employees to join them. Within two years the sole proprietor was out of business. The textile knitting machines were lost at the property tax sale. Then the government annexed the property, created a junk pile, and allowed an agressive plant to flourish and it's offspring are invading foundations, fence rows, and lawns of neighboring properties to this day. All that while, the building is used for storage and an occasional government yard sale of sorts.

Around that same time the parochial school reached it's tipping point. Now it is functioning as a government sponsored preschool. It's ironic that a new Public High School was built, a public elementary school was expanded, a public middle school was renovated, and property was aquired for a school football stadium, a school baseball stadium, ect. and parents started paying for new school books, then new school team uniforms, then new school team sports equiptment, now, new teacher's assistants, and new school buildings for new projects for new, different points of view! But, what about parochial schools?...

Back then, we started hearing about the new Democratic party, the new Dukakis, the new Kerry, the new Clinton, the new, tired, old, pre-blogger MSM, and we just went along with it!

Is that innovation?

Why didn't the majority of employees at that textile manufacturing plant recognize what demands they were putting on their employer? Each and every employee at that textile mill will have to ask themselves that question. Was it innovation, or was it greed? Was there an external third party influencing the decision?

There aren't too many people left to answer those questions. The third party is dominating those that are left. That third party is the government.

Posted by Weary Willie at February 27, 2011 7:15 PM
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Weary, great post. Add to the union problem; the increase in government fees and taxes, the cost of union employee benefits, the cost of legal help to negociate contracts and fight grievances, and the biding against non-union shops who hire illlegals.

I hear a lot about American companies moving overseas for cheap labor; can anyone explain why foreign companies move to the US?

Posted by: 1776 at February 27, 2011 8:59 PM
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Damn greedy unions how’s guy gonna afford that third house or a bigger boat the nerve of people demanding a living wage. My grandmother worked at one of those textile factory the pay was so bad she and grandpa did not even have indoor plumbing as a kid when we would visit I try and not poop for a whole week. So what your trying to say is we have to work for third world wages or our job will be sent to third world country’s. I think the republican party has finally jumped the shark and landed in a pool of disgrace and selfishness. May god have mercy on your greedy souls.

Posted by: Jeff at February 27, 2011 10:17 PM
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Sounds like you are still full of poop.

My dad is in supervision and he said union leaders are nothing but trouble.

Posted by: Kelly at February 28, 2011 12:14 AM
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Kelly, your dad is more than likely in the pocket of management to go along with being in supervision. Unions are trouble when confronting management that doesn’t want to compensate workers realistically and fairly! If you’re a management kiss-ass, you’re not going to support a union or its’ principles.

Posted by: jane doe at February 28, 2011 12:58 AM
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My biggest problem with the whole union thing is that there is no easy way to get rid of the lazy slobs that you are stuck with..Regardless if your co-workers show up or not.. they keep their job, If they do a half-ass performance of thier job (the punishment for nocall/no show is at worst a suspension).. they still keep their job……they get asked to do even the smallest thing above anf beyond (which in a normal workplace would not even be an issue) they are tossing grievences out and whinning about how they aren’t paid for it.

The biggest problem with the unions is those who apply themselves and excel at their work… are trampled under those who have more time in and do nothing to contribute to the workforce. Perhaps if they could get rid of the stereotypical lazy DOT worker, or the good for nothing teature who have been just hanging out in the system for the past 10 years.. then Perhaps the view on unions could improve.

and No i’m not management… I’m just a person with a work ethic watching the clown show every day.

Posted by: Rhancheck at February 28, 2011 9:04 AM
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“Thanks, j2t2. It seems much better when you put it that way.”
Weary certainly you are not assuming these statements conflict, are you? They are 2 halves that make up a whole.

“Young people stop thinking about making things,” Mr. Jordan says. “It is no longer in their heads. They have a different mental orientation.”

And where I was heading with the second comment.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 28, 2011 11:42 AM
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WW, corporations have been the destroyer of many a proprietary business man.

You should write an article contrasting the corporation as defined by our revolutionary era citizens and how it has been redefined by government at the behest of wealth.

Another great article would be one about how the public school system came about and who it’s primary supporters were.

Despite repeated denials by revolutionary leaders that they were not opening up a can of democratic worms impossible for wealth to control, many conservatives chose to remain loyal to the King and his authority.

Posted by: jlw at February 28, 2011 5:13 PM
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My dad is in supervision and he said union leaders are nothing but trouble….Well a bet dad also told you there was a Santa clause but there’s not.

Posted by: Jeff at March 1, 2011 6:44 PM
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