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GOP governors bite the hand that feeds them Obamacare grants

We’ve all heard the GOP talking points about the dangers and flaws of “Obamacare.” Republicans, Fox News and the Tea Party have gone to extraordinary lengths to tell us that it’s “evil,” and it’s “Nazi Communism,” and it’s “Fascist Socialism,” it’s unconstitutional, it’s “Marxist redistribution of wealth” and – my favorite – it’s “designed to kill your grandmother.”

Well, if Republicans are so dead-certain that Obamacare is so awful, then why did nine newly elected Republican state governors take possession of more than $40 Million in Obamacare grants today?

The Obama administration on Tuesday issued more than $45 million in new grants to various states for the implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (a.k.a., Obamacare). The Department of Health and Human Services issued the grants as part of the Money Follows the Person program, a component of Obamacare that encourages states to transition individuals from nursing homes or a separate institution into community-based programs.

Many of these new governors have made no bones about openly displaying their hostility toward not only the Obamacare law, but toward the President himself. Just what are the comments of these governors about Obamacare?

  • Florida Governor and former health care industry executive Rick Scott – who settled out-of-court for $1.7 Billion against charges that he was personally involved in the 1997 Columbia/HCA fraud, and has been indicted on multiple counts of Medicare fraud in 2009 with the case still pending – called Obamacare “one of the biggest job-killers in the country.” Scott is one of the banner-carriers in the unconstitutionality claims against Obamacare and said the law is “an overreach by the federal government and I’m hopeful that the courts will recognize this and put an end to this travesty.” Today, Scott accepted $4,203,999 in Obamacare grant money.
  • Idaho Governor C.L. “Butch” Otter said that “Unless you’re in favor of a fully nationalized health-care system, the president’s health-care reform law is a massive mistake.” Today, Otter accepted $695,206 in Obamacare grant money.
  • Maine Governor Paul R. LePage said, “All claims made for Obamacare were false. It will add trillions to the federal deficit. And it will lead to a defacto government takeover of health care faster than most people realize.” Today, LePage accepted $699,970 in Obamacare grant money.
  • Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, an undecided potential 2012 presidential candidate, has challenged health care’s constitutionality. In September, Pawlenty ordered all state agencies not to apply for federal money attached to the six-month-old Obamacare reform legislation, saying that Obamacare “will literally turn America’s government into a bunch of drug dealers offering free tastes to clients in order to get them hooked.” Today, Pawlenty accepted $13,421,736 in Obamacare grant money.
  • Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, the former tobacco industry lobbyist indicted for arranging the start-up financing for a GOP telemarketing company implicated in two criminal cases involving election fraud, is also a potential 2012 candidate. Barbour called Obamacare “catastrophic,” and said Obamacare “would lead to an outcome not unlike the infamous 1978 Jonestown mass suicide.” Today, Barbour accepted $1,341,394 in Obamacare grant money.
  • Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval said, “Obamacare, in its current form, threatens to destroy our budgets and perpetuate and magnify the most costly aspects of our health care system.” Today, Sandoval accepted $800,000 in Obamacare grant money.
  • New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez said Obamacare is “a huge burden for our state, and yet another incremental expenditure the law’s authors declined to account for truthfully.” Today, Martinez accepted $595,839 Obamacare grant money.
  • Former Republican and now Independent Rhode Island Governor Lincoln D. Chafee’s position is that “Obamacare will impose a catastrophically expensive expansion of Medicaid dependency on states, and such increased welfare dependency will also prove costly to states.” Today, Chafee accepted $2,503,021 in Obamacare grant money.
  • Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam called U.S. District Court Judge Roger Vinson’s unconstitutionality ruling against Obamacare “a crucial step in our fight against President Obama’s unaffordable healthcare mandate,” and officially declared Obamacare to be “an intolerable expansion of federal power.” Today, Haslam accepted $2,357,733 in Obamacare grant money.

As we all know from these and other posturing Republicans, Obamacare is just one gigantic evil liberal plot! Except, of course, when they are accepting MONEY from Obamacare. Then it’s “just good, conscientious, responsible government helping Americans in need.”

I have friends and family who cannot fathom how or why I will not be a member of the Republican Party (or Democrat Party, for that matter). Well, since we’re talking about a “Marxist plot,” allow me to paraphrase the late, great Groucho Marx to explain: I could never belong to any political party that has a bunch of evil, Nazi, Communist, Fascist, Socialist, unconstitutional, redistributed wealth-taking, grandmother-killing governors as members.

And that’s not a secret word.

Posted by Gary St. Lawrence at February 22, 2011 10:28 PM
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Comment #319085

Gary,
What Democrats and Republicans don’t seem to understand is that health insurance companies are clueless on how to deal with the problem they created. For I’m not sure when health insurance started paying for ordinary medical treatment as a way to get more clients; nevertheless, it has snowballed into the fact that some clients actually have ordinary medical bills which cost more than their premiums. Something I don’t believe people even thought of when your docor visit cost you $5.00.

No, I can’t blame some Republican Governors for accepting funding from Obamacare since they need the money; however, I wonder wgat the other governors are going to do when they can’t get any funding when more and more people will be showing up to ERs without insurance.

What I’m for though is when Americans tell the Health and Medical Industry that they will no longer fund R&D, allow tax write offs for health insurance, and no longer use Western Medicine as their primary Health concerns. Could we be seeing the first stages of Backwoods Medicine making a returm?

Posted by: Henry Schlatman at February 23, 2011 1:19 AM
Comment #319091

Do you have a link to prove these figures?

Posted by: Conservativethinker at February 23, 2011 10:26 AM
Comment #319097

Conservativethinker-
What, you think he made it up?

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 23, 2011 11:52 AM
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Fair question to ask for a link. Just don’t automatically dismiss the information because it doesn’t come from Fox.

http://www.worldnewsmania.com/2011/02/22/politics/gop-governors-get-millions-more-in-obama-health-care-grants/

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at February 23, 2011 1:09 PM
Comment #319104

Gary St. Lawrence-
The Movable Type editor has a function that allows you to highlight text and make a link out of it. You might want to try inserting the link in a sentence from your first paragraph.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 23, 2011 3:00 PM
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So what, Republicans will still prefer a conservative socialist to a liberal one. The Republican governors know Obama care is a good deal for corporations.

I believe our system should be labeled Capital s
Socialism or Socialism for Profit. Many people receive benefits they could otherwise not afford and capital makes a profit.

Welfare = profit for corporations, small companies and landlords.

Health care = profit for providers and insurers.

Fire, police, the military = profit for those who supply the tools of the trade.

Socialism for profit = services, jobs, and profits = net gain for the economy.

There is a down side, many of these jobs can’t be outsourced. Then again, most of the manufacturing jobs associated with supplies and tools for the health care industry, police, fire, and the military can be outsourced to China, which would produce some minor savings for taxpayers.

Posted by: jlw at February 23, 2011 3:22 PM
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We needed health care reform to lower the cost of health care. That is what Obama promised and that is what he failed to deliver. We now have a supposed system that will cost more than before. Some people are happy because they think the government will pay and they assume that will mean somebody else. Smart people understand that the government can only pay what it takes from the people. W/o lowering cost, you just add cost of bureaucracy.

Re governors taking the money - why not? They have to pay anyway. I always find it amusing that liberals seem to think they have some kind of moral high ground when it comes to taking government money. You have to take all you can.

How about this deal - those who choose not to take the money can also be exempt from paying.

The liberal version is not like this. Their version is something like a robber taking your wallet and offering to give you some of your money back. When you take it, he calls you a hypocrite for being against robbery.

Posted by: C&J at February 23, 2011 6:24 PM
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If the government wants to send me some free money, send it to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: KAP at February 23, 2011 7:07 PM
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C&J wrote:

I always find it amusing that liberals seem to think they have some kind of moral high ground when it comes to taking government money.


And I always find it funny how conservatives are not only flush full of hypocrisy, but won’t even admit or recognize it when it’s shown in enormous red letters right in front of their faces.

All 9 of those governors bad-mouthed Obamacare as though it is one of the signs of the apocalypse, and yet THEY STILL TOOK OBAMACARE MONEY. THAT is the point of my post.

No wonder you conveniently glossed over that particular fact. Judging from your responses to my posts so far, you’re far too busy being a raving hypocrite to recognize when members of your beloved do-no-wrong party are being raving hypocrites.

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at February 23, 2011 9:05 PM
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Gary

Where does that “Obama” money come from? He is not giving them anything new. He is merely taking money that the people of their states paid or will have to pay and letting them have some of it back.

If liberals are convinced it is such a good thing, make it all voluntary. If you don’t take the money, you don’t have to pay. See if people take the money then.

Re the point of your post - it really doesn’t have one. That is the point of this post.

Posted by: C&J at February 23, 2011 9:19 PM
Comment #319149

C&J-
The point of the post is that Republicans seem very willing to accept money from the Federal Government, even while they decry it. At the very least, we could take this to be a sign of a rather disorganize approach to policy, which is in fact tomorrow’s subject for my entry.

I’ve noticed a lot of implications of hypocrisy lately. I find it interesting, really. It seems to be a way to challenge the moral credibility of those engaged in an effort (like Al Gore with the Subject of Global Warming) without actually having to demonstrate that their own position is the morally superior one.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 23, 2011 10:12 PM
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Stephen

If I were you, I would think through the logic of that post.

Let’s make a simple line you can follow.

The Feds take your money whether or not you agree.
You may or may not agree with the program on which they plan to spend the money, but you have to pay anyway. The Feds offer you some of your money back. What do you do?

The hypocrisy is on the Dem side. You guys claim the program is popular but then force people into the system.

Just so you know, I take any money offered to me in any legal way. I would not feel bad about that.


Your comment about Gore is off the mark. The accusations of hypocrisy started with this post on the left. Nobody mentioned Gore, although we all know he is indeed a hypocrite.

Posted by: C&J at February 23, 2011 10:42 PM
Comment #319166

C&J wrote: The hypocrisy is on the Dem side.

There are none so blind as they who refuse to see.

Calling Obamacare a travesty, and “an overreach by the federal government” and “a massive mistake” and then accepting the money that PERPETUATES that travesty, and “an overreach by the federal government” and “massive mistake” … THAT IS HYPOCRISY.

If these governors had spines as big as their mouths, they would have declined the grant money.

It’s that simple.

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at February 24, 2011 12:08 AM
Comment #319205

Gary

So you want our money, and to take it by force, but call it hypocritical if we get any back. Sounds very liberal.

Posted by: C&J at February 24, 2011 8:23 PM
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C&J wrote:

So you want our money, and to take it by force, but call it hypocritical if we get any back. Sounds very liberal.


Are you joking, or are you sincerely that delusional to have missed the entire point of my column?

Where did I imply that I want “your” money? Are you simply incapable of understanding that it is your GOVERNORS that I’m calling hypocrites because THEY bashed the Obamacare program but still took money from it?

And it’s becoming clear to me that, with the way you sling the word “liberal” around (ad nauseum) as though you think it’s some kind of personal insult like the “n-word,” that you’re obviously hanging out in the wrong forum. You want the Glenn Beck forum. It’s way, way over there … to the right.

This is the Independents and Third-Party forum, where people think for themselves and don’t parrot talk radio spew like an automaton.

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at February 24, 2011 10:02 PM
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