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November 09, 2007

SAVE Act: A Winner

H.R. 4088, The SAVE Act of 2007 (Secure America with Verification and Enforcement, [pdf] is an outstanding piece of bipartisan legislation. No amnesty provisions; this Bill puts border security and enforcement of existing and new laws as the number one priority. Largely developed and co-sponsored by freshman Congresspersons, this Bill is the best evidence yet, that voting out incumbents can bring the changes that America needs.

The Bill currently has 44 Democratic signers and 46 Republican signers. It was the Freshman Democrats who made this possible, as incumbent Democrats largely fought for the previously defeated Amnesty Bills. Freshman Democrats saw the 3 defeats of Amnesty as a window of opportunity to reach across the aisle to Republicans and fashion a Bill that would put American homeland security front and center in the legislation. The Bill employs all the tools, laws, and technology available today to seriously defend our borders, ports of entry, and coast lines against invasion by terrorists, illegal immigrants, and criminals.

As regulars here at WatchBlog know, I have written many times on this topic of border security and condemned every sham legislative proposal that sought Amnesty over border security. This is a Bill I can roundly support as a truly comprehensive and workable plan to secure America and Americans at our borders throughout the 21st century.

Just a few of the features of this Bill include:


  • 8000 more Border Patrol agents

  • More Judges, courts, and detention centers.

  • Border fencing and vehicle barriers (where needed), and all-weather surveillance roads in conjunction with high tech surveillance equipment including satellite surveillance, infra red, and seismic detection. It requires construction along the border to take into account environmental and private land use needs.

  • Requires development of a national strategy to secure the borders and all ports of entry to the United States by December 31, 2010.

  • This Bill even has accountable and transparent financing of the effort built into it giving power of oversight to the Comptroller and Inspector Generals to keep Congress appraised.

This bill is going to receive some stiff opposition from organizations like LULAC and LaRaza, and incumbent Democrats beholding to the illegal immigrant population communities, and incumbent Republicans beholding to employers pressing for cheap illegal labor. They will try to fight this Bill. This SAVE Act offers the Independent voters in America the first real opportunity to flex their newfound muscle by supporting this Bill and pressing their representatives to vote for this legislation.

Registered Independents voters now outnumber both registered Democrat or Republican voters. And a majority of Independents want this border security issue resolved. If you are an Independent voter, this is your opportunity to join with other Independents and throw some weight around in support of this Bill. Email or call your Congresspersons, and lean on them. (Or, click on the NumbersUSA link below and send your Representative a FAX - it's free and easy).

It is time the Independent voters and the Independent minded Democrat and Republican voters pulled together and sent a clear message to Congress: "We are the people, and we demand our will prevail on protecting and defending our American way of life, by the passage of this SAVE Act of 2007."

(My thanks to NumbersUSA for bringing the details of this legislation to my attention.)

Posted by David R. Remer at November 9, 2007 08:30 AM
Comments
Comment #237931

It will be interesting to which Congress persons still choose to continue the farce of pretending Homeland Security is important, while completely ignoring the ports and borders.

In the mean time, violence is spreading across the border in Laredo, Texas (see this video; after short ad). The Sheriff of Laredo says the drug cartel hitmen have us outgunned.

Yet, if you bring up crime, fences, border security, or anything anti-illegal immigration, you are called a racist and/or a xenophobe.

The politicians that are pitting American citizens and illegal aliens against each other for votes and/or profits from cheap labor are despicable, and should be voted out of office.

And I still can’t figure out where Hillary Clinton stands on Drivers’ licenses in New York for illegal aliens. Why can’t she stop waffling and say that’s exactly what she wants. After all, almost all of her votes (along with these other, uuhhhmmm … Congress persons if that’s what you want to call them) have consistently supported amnesty and benefits for illegal aliens.

How can anyone vote for a politician that clearly refuses to support one of the federal government’s most basic and fundamental duties: Homeland Security and Law Enforcement of existing laws? And a federal judge (Judge Charles Breyer) is trying to block enforcement of laws to restrict illegal employment. And Eliot Spitzer and Hillary Clinton want to give illegal aliens Drivers’ Licenses? Why? Most citizens of New York are opposed to it, but that does not matter to Eliot Spitzer and Hillary Clinton.

While most illegal aliens commit no crimes (aside from being here illegally), crime by illegal aliens is high. The estimates range from 3.6 to 25 homicides per day. Even the lowest estimate is higher than the norm. On top of that, tax payers are not profiting from it. Greedy employers of illegal aliens are making the profits. And fining Walmart $11 million for doing it is a pittance to the largest corporation in the world.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2007 12:04 PM
Comment #237933

I’ve sent my e-mail off to my Senators and Congressmen. Sure hope others that believe in this great country and want to see it secure will do the same.
Just shows what can be done when our elected officials try to work together.


BTW David, can ya get my e-mail address from this blog? If so e-mail me. I heard something the other day that I think needs to be made known if there’s any truth to it. And your the one person that I know will dig the truth out.

Posted by: Ron Brown at November 9, 2007 12:14 PM
Comment #237936

david

i was happy to see my congressmans name on this as one of the original sponsors. i’ll have to e-mail him and thank him. this is as good a chance as we’ll ever have to actually get something done.let’s see if we can make it happen. i’m not sure though if bush will sign this legislation. he has nothing to gain or lose as far as i can see, so i’de say it’s a 50/50 proposition.

Posted by: dbs at November 9, 2007 12:22 PM
Comment #237937

d.a.n
I’ve been a long time advocate of severely punishing employers of illegals. Fines just don’t hit it.
Prison terms for company officials, loss of ALL profits by the company for a year or two , and even loss of business licenses for repeat offenders just might get the message across to those greedy low life employers that knowingly hire illegals for cheap labor over American citizens and the aliens that are here legally.

Posted by: Ron Brown at November 9, 2007 12:29 PM
Comment #237940

Ron Brown, You’re right. Prison terms are needed. And fines should be a percentage, since an $11 Million dollar fine for Walmart (have you seen this?) is a pittance.
Start out with:

  • 1st offense: a fine equal to 5% of corporations annual profits (or person’s annual income).

  • 2nd offense, jail for 1 year , plus a fine of 10% of of corporations annual profits (or person’s annual income).

  • 3rd offense, jail for 2 year2, plus a fine of 15% of of corporations annual profits (or person’s annual income).

  • 4th offense, jail for 3 years, plus a fine of 20% of of corporations annual profits (or person’s annual income).

  • 5th offense, jail for 4 years, plus a fine of 25% of of corporations annual profits (or person’s annual income), etc., … i.e. increase jail term and fine by 1 year and 5% (respectively) per conviction.
It should be a crime, since it is actually a form of theft. It causes many tax burdens (not to mention crime) to the tax payers (e.g. annual net losses of over $70 Billion).

Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2007 12:58 PM
Comment #237944


I applaud this bill but, it may be to late. The Denver mint is already producing Ameros. A furthur collapse of the dollar will make them attractive. We will soon be citizens of Mexamericanda.

Posted by: jlw at November 9, 2007 01:42 PM
Comment #237951

Ameros? Really?
But, isn’t that against the Constitution?
But what good is the Constitution, since they are ignoring it anyway (e.g. Article V)?

If it is true, why not?
Why don’t we just use the Euro. It’s doing much better that the U.S. Dollar.
Hell, even the Russion Rouble is doing better than the U.S. Dollar.
And here’s what it is doing to the U.S. Dollar:

    In the last five years:
  • $1 U.S. Dollar fell from 0.98 EURO to 0.6825 EURO between Jan-2003 and Oct-2007

  • $1 U.S. Dollar fell from 1.80 Brithish Pound (GBP) to 1.07 GBP between Jan-2003 and Oct-2007

  • $1 U.S. Dollar fell from 1.57 Canadian (CAD) to 0.926 CAD between Jan-2003 and Oct-2007

  • $1 U.S. Dollar fell from 1.78 Austrailian (AUD) to 1.077 AUD between Jan-2003 and Oct-2007

  • $1 U.S. Dollar fell from 8.28 Chinese Yuan to 7.43 Yuan between Jan-2003 and Oct-2007
Here’s a picture of an Amero.

What’s next?
The Canamex Corridor?
Oh, wait … they already did that.
We’re being sold out every day (maybe every hour, or minute).
More than 54 million Americans don’t have a job. Yet American jobs are being outsourced daily to workers in other countries.
Big Business has now teamed up with immigration and labor lawyers to avoid hiring American workers here at home (see Walmart story above).
Do you think there is a conspiracy?

Posted by: d.a.n at November 9, 2007 02:22 PM
Comment #237983


Interstate 69 to be built by the King of Spain.

Posted by: jlw at November 9, 2007 08:18 PM
Comment #237992

d.a.n
I could go along with increasing fines and jail terms for each offence. But I believe that at some point a business should face losing it’s license. Just at what point could depend on some factors like the amount of time between convictions, how many illegals the business has hired, and what action the business has taken to try to insure that they don’t hire illegals. But then, I reckon that if they’re caught a second time they really aint trying to stop hiring them.

d.a.n said:Do you think there is a conspiracy?

WHAT? Wal-Mart conspire to hire illegals? What have you been smoking?:)

jlw
Either him or the President of Mexico.

Posted by: Ron Brown at November 10, 2007 12:09 AM
Comment #239232

Is 69 in Indiana? Spain and Austrailian firms are leasing 94

Hopefully, if the SAVE Act works at the border fines and punishments of employers will be moot. Sure they are needed now, but in the long term we should see less and less of a need to punish employers simply because they will not have illegals to deal with!

Let’s see what kind of pork barrel amendments gets tied to it to buy votes. D.a.n may be right though.

Perhaps the game plan is to unite the north american continent. From a stratic point of view I say Yes! but I’m not willing to identify and adhear to global laws simply because MY country has gotten bigger. I’m not willing to include other states in this union unless they are included the same way every other state has been included.

But until then, until the citizens of our border countries will respect our laws we need an armed and secure border.

Posted by: Weary Willie at November 25, 2007 09:19 PM
Comment #239328

I urge all of you to contact your elected reps. and ask them to co-sponsor this bill.

Call today !

Posted by: magyart at November 26, 2007 10:00 PM
Comment #239338

Supporters of the SAVE Act include:

More than 100 Republican and Democrat co-sponsors, including nearly all of the hard-line Republican opponents of illegal immigration and 15 Democratic House committee chairmen.

The National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB), which represents more than 600,000 small businesses in every state. NFIB endorsement said that H.R. 4088 strikes a “fair balance between increased enforcement and limiting regulatory burdens placed on small businesses.”

The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW), which represents more than 725,000 American workers. IBEW endorsed the H.R. 4088 because it focuses on denying “entry of all unauthorized immigrants into the United States by securing its border to the maximum extent possible without compromising constitutionally guaranteed personal and civil liberties.” The IBEW went on to say that “mass unregulated immigration into the United States creates unfair wages competition, which is detrimental to the best interests of U.S. citizens and legal residents…”

The National Association of Police Organizations, which represents more than 2,000 police unions and associations, 238,000 sworn law enforcement officers, 11,000 retired officers and more than 100,000 citizens who share a common dedication to fair and effective crime control and law enforcement.

Posted by: magyart at November 26, 2007 11:46 PM
Comment #239582

Co-sponsor the SAVE Act
HR 4088 or S2366 & S2368

For too long, Congress and the President have looked the other way while our immigration laws were broken. The bottom line is that no law we pass in Washington will be effective until it is enforced. So the SAVE Act increases the investigative abilities of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) by increasing agents, including an additional 140 Criminal Alien Program officers to pick up those illegal immigrants local law enforcement has apprehended.

If we subsidize something, we get more of it. This country subsidizes illegal immigration. Our immigration laws are not enforced. We give social benefits to illegal aliens. Local law enforcement is prevented from enforcing immigration laws. We give illegal aliens our jobs.

It’s time for Congress to step up to the plate and pass enforcement legislation without a pathway to citizenship. These two issues need not be linked.

Posted by: magyart at November 29, 2007 02:08 AM
Comment #240743

Number of co-sponsors is up to 122.

Posted by: magyart at December 14, 2007 03:35 PM
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