Third Party & Independents: Archives

You’re so right David, and your first paragraph sums it all up.
How sad that this administration feels (he) it has a personal army to help create a legacy of deceit and fear. And just as sad is that there are still too many who can’t understand that.

Good piece. My favorite thing about this Memorial Day which I doubt too many people noticed was all day, all 24 hours, on MSNBC they did a piece called “Locked Up” which looked into our prison system. It was a really interesting piece, but rather ironic that they happened to do it all day long on Memorial Day, rather than having some piece on oh I don’t know Memorial Day.

Sandra, I think David was shinning the light on all politicians not just Bush.

David, good post. While I don’t agree with Cindi Sheehan, I can respect her values and how she stuck to them. She said this today in her retirment announcement:

“However, when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the ‘left’ started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used,” she wrote.

Honest, what Cindy said is true enough. The NFL mentality of politics in this country is what prevents consensus, and without consensus, there can be no effective solutions to the problems that face our nation.

Iraq is a perfect metaphor. We stand upon the greatest military the world has ever seen. We invade a little podunk Middle Eastern nation and scatter their military to the winds in just months. Yet, 4 years later we have neither the consensus to declare victory and leave, nor the consensus to achieve something called victory and leave. Without consensus, we straddle the Iraq War waiting for others to do what we cannot agree to do, and the years tick by, the treasure is lost, and casualties mount.

Straddling both sides of an issue is no solution at all. It is just inefficient and immensely costly. Not to mention a great detriment to our reputation as a democratic can do republic. And it is the Republican and Democratic parties responsible for this lack of consensus with their 100’s of millions of PR dollars fueling the divide.

Sandra, Honest is correct, GW Bush didn’t invent signing statements or subversion of the Constitution from high office. He just took those actions to new heights. FDR subverted the Constitution and Bill Clinton used signing statements to sidestep the law and Congress as well.

And we the voters say it is OK when our party does it, but evil when the other National Foulup League team of politics does it. Politics was never meant to be a team sport. It was meant to be a tool to achieve consensus and act to solve problems small groups and individuals could not.

The Democratic and Republican parties have turned politics into paralysis through divisiveness of the electorate, and enormous sums of team advertising and propaganda. And paralysis leads to intractable wars, 9 trillion in national debt and growing, and an educational system dropping in rank compared to other nations with each passing year. Not to mention the decades of absence of border security, one of the first and primary duties of government.

David I agree. It seems that Memorial Day is the day to beginning summer BBQ’s, instead of remembering those that gave their all for the freedoms that we enjoy, like BBQ’s
It should be a time when kids are taught what the real meaning of Memorial Day is, to go out to the cementeries and see the flags waving, to be told what the parades are for, and to talk to the veterans that are still alive and get a real history lesson, not a watered down one then now teach in schools,instead of being PC to really tell how it was.

Will you remember for a day, and then forget for another 364 days?

Unfortunantly most Americans don’t even remember the sacrifices the fallen have made for our freedom on the one day set aside to remember. To a whole heap it’s just the start of summer activities.

We are here because they aren’t. The debt we owe is enormous and cannot be paid with a passing thought and a few flowers one day of each year.

But a lot of folks think it can.

Just about every American has at least ancestor that has served this great Country of ours in the Military. And a whole heap have at least one that has died fighting for it. It tears me up to see how little these folks appreciate the sacrifice that their ancestor(s) made so they can have their BBQs.
But the thing that really frosts me up is that the government that sent them to die for their Country only pays lip service to their sacrifice one day a year. The rest of the time they’re selling the county these brave soldiers died defending down the river to the highest bidder. And the voters are letting them by reelecting them over and over again.
This is really a dishonor to those that have died to preserve this country and our freedom.

Ron Brown, this is why we all must do what we can to spread the word and advice of voting out incumbents who are unwilling or unable to solve these problems we face. There are encouraging numbers in the polls, that more and more voters have had enough.

We just have to keep their numbers growing toward that tipping point, at which, the lawmakers recognize they have no political future without solving the nation’s problems, effectively, durably, and as cost-efficiently as possibly.

Sandra
It is sad that the President doesn’t have enough respect for our fallen to try to do what’s right for this country. But it aint just one him. It’s all our elected and unelected officials regardless of party affiliation.

Richard
Reckon maybe MSNBC thinks that criminals are more important than those that gave their lives so they can run things like that?