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Get Over It Already

What’s the deal?
From a marketing stunt to Biden.
Everyone gets so excited over nothing.

Biden talks.
A lot of people talk.
They say Biden has 'foot in mouth disease'.
He was asked about Obama. He responded without thinking it through or having his press secretary telling him what to say first.
What I took from the word 'clean' in his comment was that Obama does not have the political history -baggage that others have.
Obama and Jesse Jackson give him a pass on it and Sharpton laughed - why they asked Jackson, or Sharpton, mystifies me.
If it weren't for the media this would be a non-story.
They, the media, will take just about anything someone has to say and turn it into an issue by demanding whoever said it explain themselves. Then all the pundits and experts crawl out of their holes and psycho-analyze every word from every possible direction.
By the time the person's explanation of what they meant reaches our ears, it just sounds like they are desperate to save their political butt. Yes. By then they probably are.
Let them talk. Let us listen.
We can make up our own minds about what we think they 'meant to say'.
Consider the source and GET OVER IT.

The Boston Bomb Scare -

CNN Story - ''Two held after ad campaign triggers Boston bomb scare'
From CNN 'Turner Broadcasting said in written statements the devices had been placed around Boston and nine other cities in recent weeks as part of a guerrilla marketing campaign to promote the show.'

Look at this picture:
The police looked at that and thought it was a bomb? Did these actually light up? No one saw them at night and brushed them off as something goofy hanging from the bridge?

From CNN: 'Turner Broadcasting said the devices had been in place for two to three weeks in Boston; New York; Los Angeles, California; Chicago, Illinois; Atlanta, Georgia; Seattle, Washington; Portland, Oregon; Austin, Texas; San Francisco, California; and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Okay. Turner broadcasting screwed up.
They should have let authorities know about this before they set it up.

I don't know who was more stupid.
The devices were there for 2 or 3 weeks.
No road crews, no bridge workers, no sanitation employees, not even the police noticed these 'bombs'.

Now two people have been arrested and are facing felony charges.
Turner Broadcasting better get a bigger mailbox because the law suits will start flowing in.

Let the two guys go. We don't need you to make 'an example' of them.
Send Turner Broadcasting the bill and GET OVER IT.

Posted by Dawn at February 1, 2007 9:25 AM
Comments
Comment #206103

Mainstream Media and increasingly Blogs, play the old game of “let’s you and him fight”, because nothing sells in political media coverage like a good fight. Biden speaks, opponents see an opening by interpreting Biden’s words in the most sinister and condemning way, and voila! The Media has the attention of the public, which translates into advertising exposure, which translates into revenues from advertising for the media.

A very real confrontation is taking place in Boston where two men Hired by a corporation to put up those advertising electronic LED Signs, are arrested and may face charges and very steep fines all because of someone’s fear of the signs, and what they meant.

This could shape into a conflict between the overreach of power by government and the protection of individual rights to be employed in legitimate enterprise without appropriate due process stripping them of their freedom and property (money as in fines). Why isn’t the advertising manager of the corporation behind bars along with those hired to put the signs up?

Posted by: David R. Remer at February 1, 2007 10:41 AM
Comment #206107

The thing in Boston is just a screw up. It should not have happened; it should not be big news. Nobody should be behind bars for anything. It is too bad that we have become so fearful and dour. While we certainly cannot give up our vigilance, when we find it was nothing, we could lighten up.

Re Biden - this is his Maccaca moment. Maybe it is not fair, but he is finished. A politician can probably get away with almost anything except insensitivity to the PC realities. .

Posted by: Jack at February 1, 2007 10:59 AM
Comment #206115

I saw a news story about these signs in Boston last night. These things were on public owned property? The news story didn’t say that. Thought that was illegal.
From the pictures I’ve seen of them if I’d seen one of them I’d of thought that the government was shoot the bird at everyone instead of it being some sort of advertising. Specially with it hanging from a bridge.
Anyway the Boston Police over reacted and made fools of themselves. Reckon maybe the terrorist have already won?
The thing to do is just make Turner Broadcasting take them down and fine them $100,000,000 or so for advertising on public ride of ways.
I’ll bet they’re scrambling to get them out of the other cities right about now.

Biden opens his mouth and puts his foot in it and it’s news? Musta been a very slow news day.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 1, 2007 11:40 AM
Comment #206116

‘Reckon maybe the terrorist have already won?’

From this respect - the terrorists won before we even got in the fight.
And we wonder why no one is ‘afraid’ of us anymore?
We are afraid of ourselves - and have been for a very long time.


Posted by: dawn at February 1, 2007 11:47 AM
Comment #206119

“Re Biden - this is his Maccaca moment. Maybe it is not fair, but he is finished. A politician can probably get away with almost anything except insensitivity to the PC realities. .”

Jack,

Yep, stick a fork in him. He’s done.

Posted by: KansasDem at February 1, 2007 11:53 AM
Comment #206122

Did I hear that correctly????

The Chicago police managed to prevent the same scare Boston faced because they caught the guys while they were REMOVING the ‘BOMBS’????????

It is Super Bowl weekend and it COULD HAVE been a massive disruption to the city and all the Bear fans??
It’s a good thing they (the police) nipped this BEFORE this weekend???

They are going to throw the book at those responsible for what COULD HAVE happened
- and they never noticed.

Posted by: dawn at February 1, 2007 12:00 PM
Comment #206125
Re Biden - this is his Maccaca moment. Maybe it is not fair, but he is finished.

Can these two statements really be equated? Calling someone you don’t even know a Maccaca, which is like calling someone a monkey or something, shouldn’t be equated with a poorly phrased compliment. I don’t think people are going to care about this. Many Democrats wondered how Bush could remain popular with all his gaffes, but people always knew what he meant, even though the guy would often say the opposite.

Posted by: Max at February 1, 2007 12:18 PM
Comment #206128

Jack & Dawn,
Yes, the Boston scare is a sad comment on our country. People find a box and project their own hopes and fears onto it. Our fear of terrorism is so consuming, we project it, we reek of fear.

Posted by: phx8 at February 1, 2007 12:41 PM
Comment #206129

The thing that I found hilarious about the Biden thing (aside from how stupid it was) is that Jesse Jackson was able to honestly say he made a hell of a lot better showing in the 1988 election than Biden himself did. So casting judgment upon Jackson’s own viability as a candidate as compared to Obama was easily and properly discredited. I’m not certain Biden knows what a viable candidate is.

That being said, he’s more right than not. Too bad he is taken about as seriously himself as Jackson and Sharpton are by most voters. He was terrible on Stewart last night, too. He tried way too hard to be funny. He wasn’t. He’s forked.

And the Boston thing was just another page in the sad story of how pathetic Americans have become. We are indeed becoming a nation that only strives to be as strong and as thoughtful as our most paranoid and unlearned members. Both our foreign and domestic responses to the growing threat of terrorism have been disappointing to say the least. Common sense has given way to the 1% doctrine (or .000000001% doctrine in many cases).

Posted by: Kevin23 at February 1, 2007 1:03 PM
Comment #206130

‘…but people always knew what he meant, even though the guy would often say the opposite.’

See. There’s the problem.
Our language.
No matter what someone says… the ‘listener’ can read into it a different message.
Even the ‘explanation’ can be taken more than one way.
It all depends on who you are and what you want to make of it - for your own personal gain.

I was discussing double meanings with 2 young men, about 18 yrs old, a couple nights ago - the conversation was about cartoons & sitcoms.
They said they would have to watch again to see if they could ‘see’ what I was referring to.


Posted by: dawn at February 1, 2007 1:05 PM
Comment #206154

Dawn,

When you really look (or listen) to Biden’s statement, “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

He was screwed after the first nine words. What could he have followed “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American……..” with that would have been appropriate. The MSM is pointing to racial “overtones”, I’d suggest “undertones” would be more accurate.

I’m part of the same generation as Biden and no matter how hard we try we just can’t escape the fact that most of us were raised in a society that believed, at best, blacks, Hispanics, etc. were “equal but different”. The fact that Biden had to even use the words “African-American” are testimony to our countries sad racist history.

I don’t think Biden meant his comment to be racist anymore so than George Allen did. But the “undertones” are present. I’d actually go as far as to say that Biden’s comment was more agregious than Allen’s. I actually believe that Allen had no idea what “maccaca” meant and was in fact making “funny” about the guys hairstyle. That didn’t stop me from making political “hay” out of the issue.

Biden’s chances were slim to begin with. He just stepped in it big time. He’s done.

Posted by: KansasDem at February 1, 2007 3:02 PM
Comment #206158

‘…at best, blacks, Hispanics, etc. …’

KansasDem,
You capitalized one and not the other … does that mean you think one has a higher social standing than the other??
I’M just kidding…
I agree.

Posted by: dawn at February 1, 2007 3:21 PM
Comment #206198

Dawn:
“Get Over It Already

What’s the deal?
From a marketing stunt to Biden.
Everyone gets so excited over nothing.”

And yet, it seems you often believe these “nothings” are worth writing articles about. Even though there are so many other truly important news developments that might warrant an article for the center column. Btw, I notice that once again you didn’t provide a quote to the remark in question. How can “everyone” agree it is nothing, if they don’t know what comment is being referred to?

Kansas Dem, Agreed. Biden is history. If it had been this remark about Obama alone, maybe not, but I think that this remark, paired with his previous gaffe about the prevalence of Indian-Americans working at Dunkin Donuts and 7-Elevens makes his unelectability now seem very obvious.

Posted by: Adrienne at February 1, 2007 6:12 PM
Comment #206205

Adrienne. Like I suggested before, apply for an editor position and write your own articles.

There’s a bigger story in the story but for some reason it seems to go over your head.

I hope you contact the major media outlets about their coverage with the same vigor you do mine.


Posted by: dawn at February 1, 2007 7:01 PM
Comment #206228

Forget sending Turner the bill, they did not do anything wrong. They neither had the intent to cause widespread panic, nor was it logically apparent that it could turn out that way.

It has to be the single greatest overblown story I have seen since Monica-gate.

Posted by: Zeek at February 1, 2007 9:39 PM
Comment #206265
Reckon maybe the terrorist have already won?

Dang! I finally agree with Ron about something. :)

I took a some flack a while ago for saying Americans have turned into big pussies. I stand by it.

Good article, Dawn.

Posted by: American Pundit at February 2, 2007 1:43 AM
Comment #206275

Timely article and topic, Dawn. Thanks.

Posted by: David R. Remer at February 2, 2007 6:07 AM
Comment #206277

We have had those advertising do-hickies here in San Francisco also. No one seems to have thought it was a big deal. Maybe Boston just over-reacted.

Posted by: Richard at February 2, 2007 7:29 AM
Comment #206297

Maybe ?

Posted by: David R. Remer at February 2, 2007 10:10 AM
Comment #206322

Dawn:
“Adrienne. Like I suggested before, apply for an editor position and write your own articles.”

Well, if I did write articles for the center column (which I’d never be allowed to do), I would likely be writing articles about the many revelations coming out of the Libby trial. I think it’s exposing quite a lot about the way this administration opperates — which should concern everyone in all three columns, including people in here in the center.

“There’s a bigger story in the story but for some reason it seems to go over your head.”

Oh, so the “Nothing” is “Something”? But you said it was Nothing. In fact, the first topic that was Nothing was so completely unimportant you obviously thought it didn’t even require the quote.
You see Dawn, I have no problem with discussing bigger stories — but I do with the way you broach your subjects and present your arguments. You seem to assume that everybody always knows exactly what you’re talking about. In writing that is very poor form. Perhaps you might try reading you article as though you were someone other than yourself. Someone who hasn’t seen and heard what you have seen and heard.
I realize you believe I’ve been attacking you lately, but I’m not trying to be nasty. Being an editor for this blog is very obviously a privledge that is granted only to some, not all. I’m only trying to shame you into caring a lot more about the articles you write for this blog, since you are in that rarified number who has been given the opportunity.

“I hope you contact the major media outlets about their coverage with the same vigor you do mine.”

Whenever I think it’s truly warranted, you bet I do. Constructive criticism is as necessary in journalism, as it is everywhere else in life and art.

Posted by: Adrienne at February 2, 2007 12:01 PM
Comment #206372

You know Adrienne… it doesn’t matter how anyone on this blog writes their article or which subject they choose - there is always someone here to attack.

‘…but I do with the way you broach your subjects and present your arguments.’

Then I suggest you don’t read them if they bother you that much.
Stress over something else.

Posted by: dawn at February 2, 2007 2:44 PM
Comment #206391

Dawn:
“You know Adrienne… it doesn’t matter how anyone on this blog writes their article or which subject they choose - there is always someone here to attack.”

Right. It’s a political blog.

“Then I suggest you don’t read them if they bother you that much.”

Well, I have to confess, I’m the curious type. When a title demands that we “Get Over It Already” I can’t help but want to know what the IT is. Or your other recent article that asked the question: “Barbara Boxer — Out Of Line?” I immediately thought: Oh? How So? I’m afraid I’m a total sucker when it comes to a provocative title.

“Stress over something else.”

:^) I wouldn’t call it stress, merely annoyance.
I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. I don’t mean to. Just being honest.

Posted by: Adrienne at February 2, 2007 4:50 PM
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