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What A Shining Example of Ineptitude

The recent “Open Mouth and Insert Foot” award recipient, one John Forbes Kerry, has for a short time, breathed new life in the sagging hopes of the Republican party machine. They (Mr. Rove et. al.) are on their knees thanking whatever god they pray to for the erstwhile Democratic presidential candidate’s botching of a poor joke aimed at the president, but veering off and seemingly landing like a mortar shell in front of our beloved US Soldiers.

Certainly, Mr. Kerry's remarks were ill-timed and even spoken as he intended, a really lame joke. Everyone already knows of the mental fortitude of our Commander-in-Chief. So an attempt at a laugh at old news, bought the Republicans some much need relief from the real world.

What's happened to the Republican Party? Are they so bereft of substance that the President of the United States must resort to calling John Kerry shameful and demanding he apologize to the troops for the statement that was not intended for them in the first place? The other item they seem to be using more and more is as my colleague over on the Red Column just posted today, that the "terrorists want the Democrats to win". Really, how infantile and petulant the Republicans have become.

This political party used to be something to behold. They were crisp on message and had a truckload of ideas and plans (Where are you now Mr. Gingrich?). Now, they are the Keystone Cops, The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight, The Three Stooges (George, Dick and Don, anyway). Congress used to be run like an Italian railroad under Mussolini. The trains ran on time. Now they can't get to work, don't read the legislation they vote on, have to scramble to cover up scandal after scandal and can't think up anything substantive a week before an election that should be the crowning prologue to 6 years of Republican rule so what do they do? They riff on John Kerry. How pitiful, how awful for them, how absurd they have become. Reagan's Republicans have now become a laughing stock of political ineptitude. They are about to have their clock cleaned on election day by a political party that has historically been completely dis-organized and more prone for mis-steps than anyone. However, the Democrats have one thing going for them in this election. The Republicans are even more pathetic than they are. Reagan must be spinning in his grave. How bad do you think Howard Baker, Bob Michel, Alan Simpson and other strong and competent Republicans feel when they realize they had to work in the minority for most of their career and can only watch with clowns like Dennis Hastert, Bil Frist, John Boehner, take what they never had (a lock on the leadership) and sail it like the Titanic into an Iceberg all the while taking shots at Mr. Kerry.

Robert Ney, Tom Delay, Mark Foley, Randall (Duke Cunningham), Bill Janklow, (one could go on and on and on) are the former Republican Titan's (like Everett Dirkson, the aforementioned Howard Baker, Warren Rudman) unfortunate legacy. Even those without scandals attached to them like Rick Santorum, Conrad Burns, and Katherine Harris simply look and sound like idiots when they open their mouths. How awful for those great Republicans to see their party taken over by a bunch of incompetents.

This congress has enjoyed a unity government for most of the President's term. Instead of really doing something well for the country they've succeeded in driving us so far into debt that we'll probably not see a surplus again in my lifetime. They have us mired in a war that seems to be without end. They botched relief of a disaster area so poorly that the new acronym for FUBAR and SNAFU is FEMA. I can only imagine what Teddy Roosevelt would do if he was still alive. I suspect he'd revive the Rough Riders and charge up Pennsylvania Avenue instead of San Juan Hill.

This Republican party may squeak by Tuesday and retain control of the house. It won't be for the lack of trying to give it away though.

Posted by Dennis at November 3, 2006 6:26 PM
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Comment #193210

Republicans will lose the House. If the Dems cannot win under these conditions, they will just have to give up.

I think the Republicans deserve to lose, but I do not think the Democrats deserve to win. Too bad you third party guys can’t field a decent challenge.

Posted by: Jack at November 3, 2006 9:06 PM
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Jack,
If they can’t win under these conditions, it requires sensible people to question the validity of our democratic and electoral processes.

Posted by: gergle at November 3, 2006 9:21 PM
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Gergle

I would blame the Dems if they cannot make it. I know that the Dems will blame occult forces, as they did in Ohio.

You know that the House will be close. I think Dems will win, but it will not be a blowout. Even in the most optimistic Dem scenario, we are talking a couple of seats. And you will not take the Senate.

I also predict that if the Dems win the House, it will be a more conservative place than the Netroots hope. Maybe they will throw Pelosi overboard.

Posted by: Jack at November 3, 2006 9:29 PM
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Kerry, whether a lame joke, or spontaneous lapse of judgment by going off script, made the appearance of insulting the intelligence of young men who join the military for a $45,000 sign up bonus. Obviously, it is not dumb to give one’s signature away for $45,000, unless doing so costs you your life or limbs, sight or hearing, or severe burns. Even that is not dumb, just a poor bargain.

But, let’s be clear! Kerry is not running for anything. More importantly, it is the Republicans who are spending our soldiers lives while waiting for some divine inspiration on how to bring closure between the greatest military on earth and this little podunk country called Iraq. If anyone is disrespecting our American soldiers, insulting them with unnecessary casualties and death, it is the GW Bush company in the White House.

Kerry would make a lousy president, and his comment, however intended, has eliminated him from even a hope of nomination in 2008. But the issue at hand is, what do we do to check this rogue President who has many designs on rewriting the Constitution, but, none for removing our troops from harms way in Iraq. That is the issue for me on Nov. 7, and I will vote for challengers who say they will alter the course in Iraq in a fashion which will quickly halt the wasteful spending of American lives, and the billions upon billions of national debt which our children will have to suffer in tax withholdings in their work lives.

The greater insult toward our military troops sits in the White House. It is an insult that is filling Arlington Cemetery with more crosses, stars of David, and other religious icons nearly everyday. It is an insult that is swamping our VA hospitals, burn centers, and prosthetic labs.

That is an insult which has meaning for the Nov 7 elections in the context of a war which does not have meaning, nor end, and a Congress that allows it continue without oversight, or representation of the suffering soldiers and their families. Who among Republicans is talking about safeguarding our troops? That is the greatest insult of all.

Posted by: David R. Remer at November 4, 2006 2:22 AM
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Jack said:

I also predict that if the Dems win the House, it will be a more conservative place than the Netroots hope. Maybe they will throw Pelosi overboard.
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Jack, I agree. I think the Dems best chance is gaining control of the house. I also agree it will be a more conservative democratic congress that some of the left-wing believe. This will actually be a good thing. If a reasonably centrist democrat can lead the House, then perhaps some decent legislation can be brought to bear. There’s a incredible mess in Congress that needs to be cleaned up and we don’t need to go from one extreme from one party to the other extreme.

Whoever winds up as the Speaker and Majority leader have a tough road ahead. They have to make the House work all the while trying to gain back confidence of the American people. That will require some heads to roll. Oversight and investigation will have to take place, but it can’t be like Torquemada and the Spanish Inquisition looking to burn the Republicans no matter how tempting. People in glass houses,,, and all that stuff you know.

There’s enough to do what the American people want. Health care reform, deficit reduction actions, oh and that other thing. The WAR.

I hope they don’t make the first thing out of the box “gotcha” politics, but hey it’s the Democrats. Who knows what they’ll do. This is of course assuming they win on Tuesday. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is always a possibility here.

Posted by: Dennis at November 4, 2006 8:22 AM
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I have to say that as an outsider to US politics, if it’s not regarded as impolite to comment on US domestic politices, that I was unimpressed with Kerry in ‘04. I would have preferred him to GWB as the lesser of two evils, or is that the evil of two lessers? But he leaves me cold. I also agree with Jack that the Dems do not deserve to win, but they have to to get rid of the current disaster.

Finally to David Remer I say, “Well said!”

Posted by: Paul in Euroland at November 4, 2006 3:26 PM
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Yep, the “foot in the mouth” award goes to Kerry. It seems his true nature keeps sneaking out at the most inopportune times.

It’s interesting that Republicans are never able to hold onto a majority for very long.
For example, Republicans also had the majority for about:

  • 12 years (1920 to 1932) just prior to the Great Depression,

  • about 20 years from 1896 to 1914,

  • about 14 years from 1862 to 1876,

  • and now, about 12 years from 1996 to 2006.

The Democrats had power for a long time (about 70 years), and abused it too, but it appears that whenever Republicans get power, they blow it in a relatively short time.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 4, 2006 5:11 PM
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Of course, the Republican Party of the 1800’s is not the Republican Party of modern times, not even idealogically in most ways.

Posted by: David R. Remer at November 4, 2006 6:09 PM
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MAX,

It is a copyright violation to reprint articles from commercial enterprises. It is also a violation of our Rules of Participation. Just include a quote and a link to the article next time, please.

I deleted the copyrighted text.

Managing Editor, WatchBlog

Posted by: Max at November 4, 2006 6:43 PM
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Max wrote: I, for one, don’t think we’re that stupid. Next Tuesday we’ll see.

Max, I hope not.
Yes, we will see.
I already voted early.
Not a single incumbent.
No more pulling the party-lever for me.
Yeah, unfortunately, I was one of those for 30 years.
No more.

If more voters also see agree with the reasons to simply stop re-electing irrespponsible incumbents, we may finally send a clear message to Congress to stop being FOR SALE, stop the massive debt, borrowing, spending and money-printing, and finally start to address some of the nation’s pressing problems.

It doesn’t require that many voters.
Since most elections are close, if only 5% to 10% of voters will not re-elect irresponsible incumbent politicians, then the other politicians lucky enough to retain their cu$hy, coveted seats may get the message too?

David,
Yes, the two main parties are different now than 100 or 200 years ago. A little anyway. For one thing, I don’t think they used to be quite as FOR SALE as now. That seems to have grown way out-of-control.
Given time, things become abused, unless reforms can keep up with the ever-present corruption.
It just that it is sort of interesting that Republicans have much fewer years as the “IN PARTY”.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 4, 2006 8:09 PM
Comment #193338

I don’t think this is the end of the Republican majority. I do agree with just about everyone else that dems will at least win the house and maybe the senate.

The problem for democrats is “win what?” What is the issue they have won on?

What is great from a republican side is that clean up the party from corruption, resolve the issue in iraq, campaign on what we believe on and we are back in power.

The dems have no such chance. If the Dems campaign on what they believe, nationwide, they loose. They are way out of the mainstream, and just too liberal.

This looks like a normal six year itch election in terms of result, with the out party picking up some seats. I think it will be good for our country and the republican party to have the dems with the power to investigate six years of republican rule.

I don’t see a democratic party ready for prime time. do you?

Someone said here that the democratic party’s “time in the wilderness” doesn’t seem to have done them much good. I agree with that analogy. We are on the verge of a democrat victory and the future speaker of the house appears to be “in hiding”.

Pretty weird.

Craig

Posted by: Craig Holmes at November 4, 2006 8:35 PM
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Craig Holmes,

You’re right.
If Democrats simply keep re-electing incumbents (like I believe they will), there won’t be much improvement (if any).

That’s why I believe the anti-incumbent sentiment will be even stronger in 2008 and 2010.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 4, 2006 8:40 PM
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Craig, Pelosi is in hiding because Republicans announced their intention to use her as a weapon in the election against the Dem’s. Reclusing herself for a week or so, sounds like a politically astute move, to me. Smarter than Sen Kerry’s move, obviously.

Posted by: David R. Remer at November 4, 2006 8:55 PM
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David:

That is exactly my point. Nancy Pelosi was elected by democrats to her post, and needs to “hide” from the electorate as a best means of winning. The reason Republicans would use her is because it works!! She is the stereotype.

That is why I believe not much long term can be concluded by this election.

Look at the difference between Gingrich in 94 and Pelosi now. Isn’t it great that the best chance to win is to hide your standard bearer!! The person who will be third in line to the throne!!

Even with that said, I think the country will be better off with a democratic house. I think the corruption on both sides of the Isle will balance things out.

Don’t you think this will be a weird congress though? Bills are suppose to start in the house aren’t they? Doesn’t that force democrats out of hiding? Isn’t it going to force them to finally lead?

Wont be boring,

Craig

Posted by: Craig Holmes at November 4, 2006 9:01 PM
Comment #193350

Dennis:

The problem with this thread is it is sort of a post mortem. Kerry is a has been. He is still living in 2004. It is a dead issue. His chances of election to be president died the second those soldiers in Iraq sent that picture over the internet.

What will be fun, is watching the new democratic majority run congress without telling the american people what they stand for. It is actually funny to me. On the run up to the biggest night in her life, Pelosi is in some bomb shelter hiding. Pretty funny way to move ahead to the third highest position in the land.

Craig

Posted by: Craig Holmes at November 4, 2006 9:23 PM
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Craig, you know as well as I do how effective the Republican smear machine is. They don’t need fact or reality to make a person or idea into a 4 letter word. I haven’t heard the arguments of why Pelosi as speaker would be a bad thing, other than the fact that she belongs to the opposition party. If Foley, or Wright or any other Democrat was poised to become speaker, the same tactic would have been launched.

Ergo, the tactic has nothing to do with Pelosi. And ducking from the limelight as a target, sure has defused the tactic significantly. She is not in the news at this time. This is all just slime barrel American politics brought on by 100’s of millions of dollars spent on PR firms and analysts to devise ways to undermine the opponent regardless of merit or lack thereof.

Posted by: David R. Remer at November 5, 2006 1:22 AM
Comment #193380

Actually, Craig, the public won’t care what Dem’s stand for for the next 22 months. They will go back to their workaday lives, tune out politics, check their bank account regularly, check their job status and educational progress of their children, and keep an eye on how many more dead and wounded Americans are coming home from Iraq.

In 22 months, they will begin reading and watching the political news again, decide what issues are important to them, and vote according to whether they think the country is making progress or falling backward. What happens in the interim is much ado about nothing UNLESS it affects their bank account, their job status, or their security from attacks while going about their daily lives.

Posted by: David R. Remer at November 5, 2006 1:26 AM
Comment #193416

Yep, And, if they continue (at the current rate) the massive debt, borrowing, spending, growing government ever larger, and rampant money-printing, voters WILL have something else to think about, because it WILL affect their bank account (you know the saying … “it’s the economy stupid”).

Especially since nationwide personal debt is also about $20 trillion (or more)?
And the real-estate bubble is not helping.
Increased global competition, and growing corpocrisy, corporatims, government FOR-SALE, and more corporations still moving overseas certainly doesn’t help.

It’s strange the way Democrats don’t make more of the massive fiscal irresponsibility.
The $8.6 trillion National Debt grew by $3 trillion since year 2000.
The Debt-to-GDP ratio is now 69%, which has never been worse since WWII (and that does not even include the $12.8 trillion Social Security debt and $450 billion Pension Benefit Guaranty debt, and hundreds of billions of unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Medicaid, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan).

Well, the Democrats may soon inherit this fiscal-disaster-in-the-making.
Hopefully they’ll get a handle on it soon, but it seems doubtful.
It seems unlikely Democrats will have the discipline.
It could be the problem is ALREADY too out-of-control?

Posted by: d.a.n at November 5, 2006 11:11 AM
Comment #193431

David:

Craig, you know as well as I do how effective the Republican smear machine is. They don’t need fact or reality to make a person or idea into a 4 letter word. I haven’t heard the arguments of why Pelosi as speaker would be a bad thing, other than the fact that she belongs to the opposition party.

I don’t think a smear machine is necessary with Pelosi. She is one of the most liberal members of congress. Why smear? She is the real thing!!

Smearing is when you make someone out to be something they aren’t. Both parties are have smear machines. (As per your recent thread).

Democrats have proven they are not ready to lead. If they were ready to lead, there values would be closer to the values of American voters. In order to lead, Nancy Pelosi has to “keep in hiding” in the sense that she cannot say what she believes.

It’s not the Republican smear machine, it is that her values are sooo much different than the national electorate.

Craig

Posted by: Craig Holmes at November 5, 2006 12:37 PM
Comment #193432

David:

Actually, Craig, the public won’t care what Dem’s stand for for the next 22 months. They will go back to their workaday lives, tune out politics, check their bank account regularly, check their job status and educational progress of their children, and keep an eye on how many more dead and wounded Americans are coming home from Iraq.

Just like the last two years?

Craig

Posted by: Craig Holmes at November 5, 2006 12:39 PM
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