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October 23, 2006

Gay Scandal & Corruption Since Reagan?

Surfing Google for history on gay scandals and corruption, I came across a video which states it was prepared for the Discovery Channel, uncovering GOP child abuse, a call-boy ring, and headed by GOP operatives convicted for millions of absconded public funds, during the Reagan years. It tells of FBI cover-up, intimidation of witnesses, exploitation of youth at Boys Town, and even the suspicious death of a man and his son; the man was pursuing the uncovering of the story.

I found some amount of the evidence presented in this video entitled, Conspiracy of Silence, lacked credible sourcing, but, this was an uncut and unfinished video presentation, bought and paid for to keep it off the air, and presumeably destroyed by the buyers. One copy apparently survived. Many of the convictions should be a matter of record for verification. If even half the other allegations and convictions are true, this video provides a history to the Foley scandal and motive for covering it up by House Republican leadership.

Of course, Democrats have their own history as well. Cover-ups surrounding Democratic sex scandals have also apparently been tried. Examples include Former Rep. Gerry Studds, Rep. Barney Frank, and Former Rep. Mel Reynolds who was pardoned by Clinton for other crimes and after being convicted of a sexual relationship with a minor.

It would appear many incumbents from both parties believe tenure should have its perks including the expectation that such activities can be covered-up or remain open-secrets in D.C. There appears to be sufficient evidence that their expectations have, to date, been reasonable.

Posted by David R. Remer at October 23, 2006 10:19 AM
Comments
Comment #189680

It’s amazing how much immoral and irresponsible behavior can be found among only 535 people.

A CNN poll shows 71% polled believe government is broken.
Wonder why?
Hhhmmmm … Do ya think it’s because we keep re-electing them?
Rewarding them?
Empowering them?
Perhaps we need a online voter database identifying blind loyalists and severely brainwashed voters?

Call it KickMe.org or Kick—Me.org (since KickMe.com is already reserved).
There, you can buy T-Shirts that say “Kick Me”.
And bumper stickers that say “Hit Me” or “Rear-End” me?
Buy one for your friend, neighbor, relative.
Surely, you know someone that likes to blindly pull the party-lever, robotically vote-straight ticket, and loves to wallow in the blinding petty partisan warfare. All the problems in this country are the fault of the “OTHER” party. It’s that evil “OTHER” party. Not MY party. Even when MY party has the majority, it’s still the OTHER party that’s to blame for everything. Voters want change, but the problem is always the OTHER party. So, the two main parties just take turns, resulting in a 90% (or higher) re-election rate.

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Posted by: d.a.n at October 23, 2006 11:22 AM
Comment #189693

d.a.n

Surely, you know someone that likes to blindly pull the party-lever, robotically vote-straight ticket, and loves to wallow in the blinding petty partisan warfare.

I know several personally and read post by several on this blog.
Blind party loyalty seems to be rampant. But fortunately there are a lot of folks taking the blinders off and seeing the parties for the corrupt organizations they are.

Posted by: Ron Brown at October 23, 2006 12:10 PM
Comment #189700

After watching that whole video, I may have to reconsider which party is more corrupt.
Republicans covered up Watergate, Iran-Contra, and the Omaha Nebraska Boy’s Town pedophile ring. WARNING: that video contains adult language.

The public is only seeing a fraction of the corruption in government.

Disgusting. And voters enable it by empowering it. And the media is afraid to reveal it.

Posted by: d.a.n at October 23, 2006 02:05 PM
Comment #189704

Yeah
We find out about this 20 years later. There is only one film. It is not well sourced.

3-5% of the general population is gay. It sure looks like there are many more among the political classes, IF all this is true.

Posted by: Jack at October 23, 2006 03:03 PM
Comment #189710

David:

I’m surprised that you’d resort to using this video as any level of allegation against the GOP. Did you notice that one of the other videos available on the site, and provided by the same source (fryertuck) is about the Illuminati? So….the video on the secret child sex ring is provided by a guy who believes in the Illuminati. Wow—-and you found that ” some amount of the evidence presented in this video entitled, Conspiracy of Silence, lacked credible sourcing”!! I’m sorry, David, but someone who believes in the Illuminati is simply not credible at all, in any way shape or form.

Makes me wonder if you believe in Bigfoot and the Blair Witch as well. I mean, there IS a “documentary” movie about the Blair Witch that shows what happened in the woods to those poor kids.

There is enough bad stuff that goes on that can be substantiated that you don’t have to go delving into such shady areas to find. Foley is an example—-what he did is terrible. Same with Barney Frank and Gerry Studds. They all should have been booted out or should have quit—-only one of them did.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at October 23, 2006 03:58 PM
Comment #189712

Certainly an interesting story, but you can see why it wasn’t aired.

Here is a little background on it. The documentary is primarily sourced from somebody with a multiple personality disorder and who claims to be a victim of CIA mind-control experiments and a Satanic cult.

One interesting fact is that he claims to have been kidnapped, chloriformed and sexually abused by Barney Frank in his basement!

Posted by: Neo-Con Pilsner at October 23, 2006 04:01 PM
Comment #189714

Primarily sourced by someone who was awarded $1,000,000 by a judge for having been sexually abused and used in satanic rituals.

No wonder he has multiple personalities!

Posted by: Steve Miller at October 23, 2006 04:28 PM
Comment #189722

There is a lot to this video that CANNOT be discredited. The theft of millions from the bank, the FBI’s refusal to release the documents, and former CIA Director’s comments on the video, are all damning. This was a GOP cover-up story. The question isn’t how much of it is invalid, the question is how was so much of this story kept out of the media.

And I have to disagree with the GOP supporter knee-jerk rationalizations that this video is invalid. Those kids who went on camera and in and out of the courts, were no paranoid fantasy. What they reported was real for them, which begs the question why were they intimidated and threatened against testifying, and why were no officials in government at that time willing to investigate their claims openly? Answer: Cover-up! Which continues to this day.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 23, 2006 05:02 PM
Comment #189723

JBOD, I believe the kids were telling what they thought was the truth. I believe what the CIA director had to say on camera. I believe there was insufficient evidence to tie all the aspects of this film together for a court trial. I also believe there is still, to this day, a huge black hole surrounding this investigation which demands open and transparent investigation.

Or is it that you only believe kids who say a Democrat molested or abused them, but wash away any credibility of kids who say it was Republicans involved?

Bigfoot? No! Blair Witch? No. Corruption and intimidation and threat by people in powerful places to protect themselves from the consequences of their own actions? Your damned right!!!

And why was this video bought up and presumeably destroyed, and never used as a basis for investigation, even to this day? Answer: We don’t know, but, it smells of cover-up from start to finish.

Where is the investigation as to where the absconded funds ended up? Follow the Money, never happened in this incomplete and inept investigation.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 23, 2006 05:10 PM
Comment #189727

Jack, I think it is just the power deceives itself into a belief of immunity. It is a well documented phenomon in the history of governments. Phenomena which our founding fathers hope to diminish in our Constitution.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 23, 2006 05:19 PM
Comment #189734

I think the video has some credible parts.
There was enough corroborating parts to it to make it difficult to easily dismiss.

Jack,

David R. Remer said it was not well sourced, but that does not mean it was all lies.
Parts of it are credible.
Parts of it could be lies.
It is possible that the three victims could have all been lying.
But, there were some things that lend some credibility to their accusations. There was something fishy about the length of the sentences for some.
And there were several people involved in the investigations; and many went to jail.
And the findings in a civil court against King helped lend some credibility to the victims.
There didn’t seem to anything but hear-say or circumstantial evidence of a Republican conspiracy.
Still, there was enough concern by many involved to make one seriously wonder. Why would John DeCamp waged such a long, lonely and expensive legal campaign in exposing these supposed crimes?

Also, David wasn’t just singling out Republicans. He included more recent escapades by Democrats too.

Posted by: d.a.n at October 23, 2006 05:33 PM
Comment #189750

David, I don’t know why this is called a “GOP cover-up story” when a key witness says that he was drugged and raped in Democratic Congressman Barney Frank’s basement.

Also, considering that the video came out in 1994, are you alleging that Janet Reno instigated a GOP cover up? Why would she have?

As Attorney General, she was free to launch an investigation into any of this any time she pleased, and considering how the GOP was hounding Clinton at the time, do you suppose that the Clinton Administration would haven’t jumped to launch an investigation into anything so juicy as a Republican cult based on brain-washing, child-molesting, and Satanic rituals?

You’re absolutely right that many of these accusations of missing funds and abuse by this Lawrence King character had substance. You’re wrong to say that they weren’t investigated.

A grand jury indicted King on 40 counts of fraud, conspiracy, and filing false tax returns.

King was a GOP fundraiser in Nebraska, hardly a major national Republican figure, and it should at least be pointed out that the author of the book on which this video is based is a former Nebraskan Republican Senator named John DeCamp. So it was a Republican leading the charge to uncover all of this in the first place.

Posted by: Neo-Con Pilsner at October 23, 2006 06:15 PM
Comment #189764

So, Neo-Con Pilsner, where the did the absconded funds go, and those which were used to fund GOP elections, were they returned? You don’t know. You don’t know, because it wasn’t investigated. You don’t know, because the FBI won’t release the files.

As for Janet Reno, there was an antagonism between Reno and the FBI from the get go. Why was Boys Town not investigated?

You make some good points. But, your points only raise more questions unanswered. Why would a Republican ask for the investigation? I can think of two reasons. One he was a person of integrity. Another, the best way to cover up is to lead the investigation in the directions you want it to take.

So, which is true? You don’t know. Neither do I. The investigation was not released, nor, from all appearances, was it thorough.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 23, 2006 07:05 PM
Comment #189773

Time after time we have seen examples of people who seem to be moral and upstanding citizens are in actuality immoral to the core. I don’t have a problem believing this story and I wouldn’t have a problem believing it if democrats were the culprits. But, the democrats aren’t proclaiming to the Heavens that they are leaders of the moral majority.

What really amazes me is that the F.B.I. is investigating and convicting members of Congress with such vigor today. These investigations used to be rare in the past.

Posted by: jlw at October 23, 2006 07:28 PM
Comment #189803

David:

Or is it that you only believe kids who say a Democrat molested or abused them, but wash away any credibility of kids who say it was Republicans involved?

It’s obvious every time you lose your temper and make false statements about what I’ve said. It’s also a bit sad for someone of your stature to do so. There’s no basis for your rhetorical question above other than a temper tantrum on your part.

My statement read as follows, and puts full blame on both Republicans and Democrats who have been involved in inappropriate sexual escapades:
“There is enough bad stuff that goes on that can be substantiated that you don’t have to go delving into such shady areas to find. Foley is an example—-what he did is terrible. Same with Barney Frank and Gerry Studds. They all should have been booted out or should have quit—-only one of them did.”

There’s no credibility in your attempt to suggest that I hold different rules based on party. My posting above simply showed the utter lack of credibility of the guy who posted the video you are buying into. I’ll repeat what I said….anyone…ANYone who believes in the Illuminati is not a credible source in any way. That you want to believe him is laughable at best, and well beneath even the lowest I’ve seen you go. Its embarassing for you to buy into such drivel; perhaps at some point you’ll recognize that.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at October 23, 2006 10:51 PM
Comment #189836

joebagodonuts:

Why do I get the feeling you don’t know much abou the Illuminati? The same way you don’t know much about Sunni and Shia, eh?

Before you post about the “silliness” of things, do research first and NOT from the Lara Croft Website no matter how many Jolie pictures are in there!!!

Posted by: Juan dela Cruz at October 24, 2006 01:58 AM
Comment #189846

juan:

While I’m certainly no scholar when it comes to the Illuminati, I’ve done enough checking into it to recognize a theory that is fueled by conspiracy. I put it in the same vein as the 911 theories that disregard the common sense information about the attacks. I’m not sure I see the connection in your post between Illuminati and Sunni/Shia….perhaps you can clarify why you felt the need to use that particular example.

For the record, my personal opinion is that Angelina Jolie ranks in the skank category. I simply don’t find her all that attractive. I did see Lara Croft movie by the way with my family. My wife and I still laugh over how incredibly bad it was, and remain amazed that our kids actually liked it.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at October 24, 2006 05:35 AM
Comment #189878

I’ve gotta say I’m with JBOD on this one.

While I do believe the rich collude, it’s in the way that money is a powerful influence, and the effect of one general benefits the rest. “The rich ARE different, they have money, darling.”

Posted by: gergle at October 24, 2006 10:55 AM
Comment #189935

JBOD said: “It’s obvious every time you lose your temper and make false statements about what I’ve said.”

You make rediculous comments and questions about my beleiving in Big Foot; it just seemed appropriate to hold a mirror up to your rediculous comments and reflect the same rediculousness back to you JBOD with a question about which abused kids you believe and which you don’t by party.

If you are done trying to denigrate with rediculous questions about bigfoot and Blair Witch, I can put my mirror away and we can discuss something for real.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 24, 2006 01:59 PM
Comment #190123

David:

You presented as thoughtful and insightful a video link by a guy who also believes in the Illuminati. Then you tried to defend it. I’d suggest that is the ridiculousness that you speak of. That its in the same ridiculous vein as Bigfoot or the Blair Witch is accurate…and sad.

By the way, when I googled the subject—Mr Frank—I found numerous entries, articles and links. So much for the conspiracy theory about the one remaining video that was left to tell the story. There may be just one video, but there are plenty of references to this “hidden” story. Do some research first.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at October 25, 2006 08:19 AM
Comment #190137

JBOD, your lack of discrimination is showing. Hitler did raise Germany out of economic ruin. Nixon did open China before he disgraced the nation. JFK did halt the spread of nuclear weapons in the western hemisphere by Communists, despite his philandering ways.

Just because a person is wrong, or even evil in some of their thoughts and actions, does NOT mean they are wrong and evil in everything they have done. I mean look at your own defenses of this GOP government. You were wrong, but, you have also made many sound arguments despite being a Republican defender.

It is important to sift out the truth from the untruth, a form of discriminatory thinking many folks have difficulty with. And you haven’t answered a single one of my questions. That speaks volumes.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 25, 2006 09:38 AM
Comment #190215

David:

I’ll get right on investigating to find out the answers to your questions, right after I clear up the Bigfoot issue, Whitewater, the Warren Commission report, the Vince Foster suicide/murder and the questions of whether bombs or aircraft took down the WTC towers. So you can see that there are many conspiracies that are ahead of this one. Oops, I forgot about a biggie—-the Opus Dei sect as shown in the DaVinci Code—-that one is right up there with the Illuminati. And that’s even in print—I’m surprised Dan Brown wasn’t silenced in a big coverup.

Interesting that you’ve already decided on certain issues…

Answer: Cover-up! Which continues to this day.

Even more interesting: You are relying on 20 year old information from a video distributed by a conspiracy theorist. You are assuming that the media has no ability to check into this and that people have been silenced. You assume that even the hardcore leftwing, which would have plenty to gain by exposing this, has remained largely silent on it….for what reason?

There are many mysteries in this life without creating mysteries to look into.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at October 25, 2006 02:32 PM
Comment #190236

The assumptions you allude to JBOD are all yours. Not mine.

The Cover-up I refer to is where the millions stolen ended up in the Republican Poltiical machine. No investigation to follow that money. That is a cover-up.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 25, 2006 04:08 PM
Comment #190356

David:

Okaaaaaaay. Continue to defend your defenseless position. I’ll keep searching for Bigfoot too.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at October 25, 2006 11:18 PM
Comment #190542

Interesting video — seems this Franklin Story has been dangerous for quite a few people who were involved with trying to get to the bottom of it.

jbod:
“You presented as thoughtful and insightful a video link by a guy who also believes in the Illuminati.”

Of course anyone can post a video link, but that is entirely beside the point. The point to me seems to be the people being interviewed in that video (all of whom are believable), the lack of follow up on the investigation, and what looks to be an obvious cover up.
Are all of those people in the video just a bunch of crazies making things up and trash talking just for fun about child abuse and child prostitution and pedophila amongst powerful people?
Former CIA Director William Colby?
Former Republican Senator Loren Schmit?
A professional investigator hired by the Senator? (the woman with glasses who was interviewed in the documentary)
The executive director of the Omaha Foster Care Review Board?
The fact that the other professional investigator, Gary Caradori, also hired by Schmit, who had been threatened, and who had his vehicles tampered with, and who had obtained a piece of evidence in the form of a book that containing telephone numbers and names, and actual pictures of some of these powerful people engaging in pedophilia and child abuse, was at that moment convieniently killed when his airplane blew apart in the air?
That his briefcase went missing in that crash?
And that all of his files on the case were then confiscated by the FBI?
How about Lawyer John DeCamp, is he not to be believed?
Btw, after this video was made, he represented one of the witnesses, Paul Bonacci in a lawsuit filed against Lawrence King. In 1999, the judge presiding over the case handed them a legal victory — awarding Bonacci one million dollars, to be paid by Lawrence King himself. (King was released from jail in 2001 and has never been charged for running a child prostitution ring or for engaging in sex acts or abuse with all of these children.)

How about the fact that Former CIA director William Colby, just like Carridori, also died under suspicious circumstances in 1996?
John DeCamp:

It is a little over four years since I, John DeCamp, wrote the words you have just read. My closest friend and mentor, Bill Colby, like so many others in the Franklin case, is dead; he was fished out of a river in front of his home, under the most questionable of circumstances, in April 1996. Was he killed because of his involvement in Franklin? I don’t know. What I do know, is that Bill Colby was the heart and soul of the Franklin investigation. Although at a certain point he warned me against investigating the case further, it was he who relentlessly pushed to publicly expose what had already been discovered, when everyone else, including, at times, myself, wanted to call it quits.

Btw, this website claims that one of the witnesses Troy Boner was also found dead.
Who knows how believable that website is, but interestingly they also mention many other connections to an ongoing pedophile sex ring in D.C. involving members of Congress (including Barney Frank), and the White House — even a Jeff Guckert/Gannon connection to this prostitution ring is mentioned.

I’ve also found a website dedicated to this story (Btw, they back up the fact that Troy Boner was suspiciously found dead: FranklinCase.org

There is simply too much here that is believable and too much that is suspicious for this story to be honestly compared to Big Foot. After watching the video, and looking at some of these links, I think it might be worth reading John DeCamp’s book, entitled ‘The Franklin Cover-up.”

Posted by: Adrienne at October 26, 2006 03:42 PM
Comment #190554

JBOD’s comments indicate no interest in discovering the truth. JBOD’s comments could not stand up to the truth. But, JBOD’s comments don’t stand alone as the video makes clear. A very large number of people don’t want to know the truth about this story.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 26, 2006 05:04 PM
Comment #190563

Adrienne,

Good analysis. There’s something fishy about the whole thing.

Posted by: d.a.n at October 26, 2006 05:30 PM
Comment #190596

Adrienne, yes, excellent details and points made. We don’t know the truth of the story. And something this bad demands that we should.

Posted by: David R. Remer at October 26, 2006 08:06 PM
Comment #190608

Not something merely fishy, rather, something evil and rotten to the very core.
Consider this, Former Vietnam Veteran, Republican Senator and Lawyer John DeCamp wrote a book that directly pointed fingers at a great many rich and powerful people accusing them of the most vile and disgusting of things, and yet, not one of them ever brought a libel suit against him. This tells us that what he wrote in that book MUST BE THE TRUTH.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 26, 2006 09:11 PM
Comment #190634

That’s a very good point.
They prefer to lay low.

Posted by: d.a.n at October 26, 2006 10:41 PM
Comment #202929

If I held a very high position in the Government and had sexual acts with minors, I too wouldnt want this information released. People who dont believe are entitled to their opinion or they child molesters themselves

Posted by: Daddy Warbucks at January 12, 2007 08:27 PM
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