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A Salute to Bush and the NSA AirForce

Capt. “Doc” Daneeka, M.D.: There’s a catch.
Capt. Yossarian: A catch?
Capt. “Doc” Daneeka, M.D.: Sure, catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat isn’t really crazy, so I can’t ground them.
Capt. Yossarian: Okay, let me see if I got this straight. In order to be grounded I’ve got to be crazy, and I must be crazy to keep flying missions. But, if I ask to be grounded that means I’m not crazy anymore, and I have to keep flying. That’s some catch, that catch-22.
Capt. “Doc” Daneeka, M.D.: It’s the best there is.

Ah yes... the great novel come to life. In this case literally.

As our colleages to the right and left have noticed, the NSA Wiretapping is far larger than the Decider and his minions revealed. Those on the left already knew this. Those on the right may not believe anyway. Regardless, NONE will ever be prosecuted for this.


Because of this...

Yup!!! Fiction becomes reality in the Land of Bush and the GOP!!!

My favorite quote:

"We have been unable to make any meaningful progress in our investigation because OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program," OPR counsel H. Marshall Jarrett wrote to Hinchey, a New York Democrat. Hinchey's office gave a copy of the letter to The Associated Press.

Anybody who wants to board a raft and paddle away from the airbase, kindly take your turn. This raft has my name on it.

Posted by Aldous at May 11, 2006 9:19 AM
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A trivial aside: The original title for Heller’s Catch-22 was Catch-18. However, shortly before publication, an author by the name of Leon Uris came out with a book titled Mila 18 about the Polish uprising against the Nazis in the Warsaw ghettos. In order to avoid confusion between the books, Heller changed his title, and Catch-22 became a lexicon of the American language.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at May 11, 2006 10:31 AM
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Please fix your link. It has a mailto: prefix for some reason.


Both are very good books. Have you read them? Actually, Mila 18 focused more on the Jewish Ghetto than the general Warsaw Uprising, but that’s just a quibble.

Posted by: LawnBoy at May 11, 2006 10:42 AM
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Link fixed.

I have read both books. They are both very sad. I have always believed it served their purpose. Opening men’s minds is always noble.

Posted by: Aldous at May 11, 2006 10:52 AM
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Why aren’t more conservatives freaking out about this? They are hiding something from government investigators, they are keeping it secret from the congress and the courts, but simultaneously saying they kept congress informed. The fact that the probe has been shut down worries me greatly.

I’m buying a gun.

Posted by: iandanger at May 11, 2006 11:49 AM
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Sorry, I got the wrong “ish”. Thanks for the correction. Both are wonderful books. I prefer Uris’ style to Heller’s, but that’s just me. I actually prefer Wouk to Uris.

Regarding the ruling, it does seem odd that an agency being investigated can stymie the investigation by not providing information. Of course, certain information cannot be provided—we all know that—because it would undermine our security. But seems like more should have been provided in this case.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at May 11, 2006 12:17 PM
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This is exactly why we desparaely need a Democratic majority in the Congress.

I’m not paricularly a fan of the Democrats, but the political motivation to defeat Republicans will shed some light and reign in this out of control Administration.

Posted by: gergle at May 11, 2006 5:51 PM
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The irony of the wiretapping issue just has to be the department of just us doesnt have the seccurity clearence to investigate the NSA. If this was a movie we would be on the floor laughing, but this is not a movie is it. It cant be a movie because no one woud have thought to include this reasoning as the excuse to drop the investigation.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 11, 2006 9:30 PM
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iandanger asked:

Why aren’t more conservatives freaking out about this?

Because Conservatives are just Undeveloped Fascists. Some are more Developed than others, obviously - but you must understand: there has never been a Fascist who was not a Conservative.

There has never been a Nazi who was not a Conservative.

There has never been a Racist who was not a Conservative.

Conservatism is a requirement of: Racism, Fascism, Nazism.

But please continue:

They are hiding something from government investigators, they are keeping it secret from the congress and the courts, but simultaneously saying they kept congress informed. The fact that the probe has been shut down worries me greatly.

I’m buying a gun.


I think it is excellent for Americans to utilise their Rights - including the one granted in the Second Amendment for the purpose of defending the rest of the Bill Of Rights.

Allow me to recommend a couple; for the Barricades (in the upcoming aftermath of the Nookewlur War With Canada, against the forces of President-For-Life Cheney), you’ll want this puppy:

Ruger Mini-14

Don’t pay more than $650-$700 for the gun with the Choate Folding Stock. Be sure to get an ample supply of 30-round magazines (don’t use the 40’s unless you replace the Springs with high-tension variants; they tend to jam otherwise). As for ammo, the Israeli IDF .223 stuff is extremely clean and can be purchased in bulk for a savings.

And for Close-In work, you’ll want the:

Beretta 9mm

I would have sent you to a .45 Colt, but since the military snubbed them in favour of the Beretta, they have become quite expensive. Further, the Beretta has a far lighter recoil, and makes up for lack of Punch with a 15-round capacity - more than enough for a first time gun owner.

Let Betty know if there’s anything else she can help you with.

Posted by: Betty Burke at May 12, 2006 1:56 AM
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While I don’t agree that every fascist was a conservative, I do agree that we are one charismatic leader or significant catastrophe away from more of this poinless government intrusion into our lives. The government does not need these extra powers to fight terrorism. Hell, if they hand better computer systems to connect the information they have which is legitimate (say, that someone who gets pulled over is on the terrorist watch list for the FBI), then 9-11-2001 could probably have been prevented (this is of course conjecture, but the fact remains, the modes of inter-agency communication were bad then, and have not improved significantly).

But instead our government spends MASSIVE amounts of money on military deployment. Instead our government BUYS our phone records from phone companies. They aren’t looking to fix problems, they’re consolidating power, and relating to problems when necessary.

And thanks for the advice on guns, unfortunately at age 21, I am not allowed by US law to own a hand gun. The Beretta is a fine pistol, but I’m unfamiliar with the Ruger, how on earth was I unaware of such a beautiful rifle?

Posted by: iandanger at May 12, 2006 3:25 PM
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that is, I am Under age 21, and cannot own a handgun

Posted by: iandanger at May 12, 2006 3:27 PM
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Fascism (n.) 1: a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism) 2: a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism
Liberalism (n.) 1: a political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority 2: a political orientation that favors progress and reform
Posted by: Betty Burke at May 13, 2006 10:44 AM
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