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The real story is that both the Democratic and Republican parties hate the laws that restrict their use of money to achieve political ends. And both parties have had members who have violated laws and ethics designed to curtail the bribing and purchasing of votes, political offices, and partisan agendas.

That’s like saying the real story of Al Capones indictment on tax evasion is that lots of people dont want to pay taxes and fudges a little.

…and Americans know there are more important issues than baseball players taking steroids.
If so much money wasn’t sent to Washington, and stayed in the states themselves, maybe some real work would be done. There wouldn’t be as big a need to kiss each other’s butts and pass out the pork.
Passing bills & laws by bribery is inethical in itself.

Good post, David. You are correct in stating that DeLay’s apparent ethical lapses are not merely a Republican issue. Congressional members on both sides of the aisle are guilty, and most likely will continue to be. But what makes DeLay’s case unique is DeLay’s actions themselves. After being admonished by the Ethics Committe three times before the indictment (not to mention saying a lot of stupid things, such as there is no fat to cut in the budget), he made himself into someone who could not be trusted — a pretty juicy target. The alleged Rove leaks and Frist’s “blind trust” fiasco haven’t helped either. So while you are correct in stating that many Dems fall into the same boat, the biggest power brokers of the Republican party are now giving the public, and the prosecutors, a whole lot of reasons to turn over rocks to see what crawls out.

Reading articles like this remind me why I’m an independent. Great job. I hope something comes of this, the right thing of course. The dems are on their side saying “NANANANA!!” the repubs on their side saying “This is totally a conspiracy!”

I can’t help feeling like the score for this year has been

Partisanship: 4,203,393,643 USA: -12

Hopefully a just judgement will come out of this.

David
Terrific post…something that even this conservative agrees with.

Therein lies the problem with the two party system….absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is much more than a two party isue too and as the global world gets smaller more and more “foreign” money will somehow find its way into local hands in odrder to influence policy and elections.

What’s really neaded is a professionial agency that can act as an oversight on this issue,both nationially and locally.That,of course,will never happen.

Good piece nonetheless

David,
Good artcile! Although I have know about the investigation involving Tom Delay for the last year or so, I was surprised at what the National Republican Leadership did not put a halt to the dealings in 2002.

Left with no where to run or no where to hide, I would like your take on who turned States Evidence on Tom Delay. Because if I would of left it up to the media to tell me the truth, I wouldn’t know that at least 2 of his friends are facing serious fines and time from a civil trail. No, given the response of the Democrats and Republicans yesterday on the issue, Tom Delay by his own words know that there is someone who ratted on him.

Now, I know I’m going to upset a few Republicans, but if the Houston Chonicle who has been following the Grand Jury can not pull up the exact charges and evidence against Tom Delay some thing major took place in the Jury Room. Couple that with by his own rep of being called “The Hammer” and Tom Delay is very lucky that he is not facing charges of Racketeering along with the money laundring charges.

What’s really neaded is a professionial agency that can act as an oversight on this issue,both nationially and locally.

Wouldn’t that be us, the voters? In any case, there’s at least one District Attourney who’s keepin ‘em honest — on both sides of the aisle. Excellent article, David.

David, Great article…

Regardless of if he is found guilty or innocent the real loser in all of this is already the American voters. Focusing on this issue as a partisan win or lose completely glosses over the real problem. The real problem is the 2 party, money dominated system that has created this seemingly endless barrage of corruption on both sides of the aisle.

My thanks to all of you who expressed appreciation for the time in researching and writing this article. Your comments are very much appreciated.

Henry, I haven’t a clue. The Grand Jury indicted and what evidence they based that indictment on is as yet unknown. One juror commented yesteday that it was sufficient to warrant the indictment. That does not say much, however.

Nice piece.
I agree with what Magoo said. It seems obvious that if Delay’s lack of ethics hadn’t continued to be so apparent after being admonished three times, he might never have been indicted.

kudos on the piece as well David,

Here’s one area where the 4th estate could help. Disclosure of campaign funds, donors, recepients, PACs should be regularly performed in the mainstream press. Forget Congressional Quarterly, bring to light the campaign contributions for both parties and disclose the amount of money that the lobbyists pour into the process. Put this front page on teh NYTimes, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, Wall Street Journal, and then I think you might see some behavioral changes. Voters might get tired of seeing the money go to ridiculous causes and start getting made. This information is available, but not readily published by anyone because it’s pretty boring. I’d think the press might be able to “sex it up” abit in order to make it worth reading.

David,
That’s the nice thing about local news. While I researched over the internet for a clue, my gut feelings is that someone from the National Republican Party rolled on Tom Delay. However, I wouldn’t put it pass one of his friends given him up considering they haven’t put in jail. Oh well, a good story is brewing for 2006.

Good post David.
This shows the need for REAL campaign reform. But until the voter wakeup and start firing the everyone until they get the message that we’re tired of the BS, we won’t get any real reform. Or much of anything else either. You and me may be on almost the oppisite ends of the political spectrum but we sure agree on the need for new blood in ALL the offices.

chantico
I can’t help feeling like the score for this year has been

Partisanship: 4,203,393,643 USA: -12

You mean the US actually won 12? Aren’t you optismistical.

Yes, it’s true that Earle has indicted Democratic politicians as well—and those were conservative Democrats and his personal political opponents running against far left Democrats (at at a time when Texas was run by Democrats).

David:

Could you commenton this that I saw on Drudge?:

Coming Soon: The Ronnie Earle Movie The DeLay prosecutor has let a film crew follow him through the whole case.

For the last two years, as he pursued the investigation that led to Wednesday’s indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, Travis County, Texas prosecutor Ronnie Earle has given a film crew “extraordinary access” to make a motion picture about his work on the case.

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200509291814.asp

Craig

David:

I’m holding my opinion of this whole issue with Delay until a few more news cyles transpire. I appreciate your article. I’m not convinced that this isn’t politics, just yet.

I was looking at www.intrade.com. It says the odds of a conviction in the Delay case right now are about 18% or very unlikely. You have heard the phrase, “If you strike the King, strike to kill.” With the odds running about 1-5 for a conviction, and with the prosecutor giving such unusual and special access to movie crews to film him ONE THIS ONE CASE, something isn’t adding up yet.

It may add up in the future, but as bad as the tone is in national politics right now, nothing would surprise me.

Remember Rathergate of a year ago? Where is Dan Rather now? Like you said in your post about both parties being involved in financial misdealings, the same could be true with Tom Delay. My point isn’t to defend anyone, but rather to let the system of “vetting” have it’s course, before we hang ‘em high. (We may end up hanging some besides Delay!!)

Craig

Hey, check it out this funny composite of clips:
FOX News video: Tom DeLay Exercises His Right To Incriminate Himself

Craig:
“I was looking at www.intrade.com. It says the odds of a conviction in the Delay case right now are about 18% or very unlikely.”

Might want to read this article, also Craig. The indictment may be only the beginning of much more to come?

The reason so many are speculating (here and in the media) that a Republican insider must have rolled on DeLay is that lay people and legal analysts alike can’t figure out what Earle is getting at in the indictment. They simply can’t believe that that’s all there is.

If there ISN’T anybody, if the indictment is as flimsy as it looks, then Earle can forget about his movie deal and cancel any further speeches at Democratic fundraisers in which he promises to indict even more conservatives.

I wouldn’t be surprised at the end of the day if Earle himself doesn’t end up in prison for conspiracy and if his office doesn’t end paying out a few million in civil damages for malicious prosecution.

It’s time to subpoena Earle’s telephone records and see who he has been talking to in the DNC.

This isn’t the kind of smear that the left is has been pulling for 5 years now—if it’s what it appears to be, this is actionable.

Adrienne:

The indictment may be only the beginning of much more to come?

If it is anything like the last three second terms (Nixon, Reagen, Clinton) then yes there will be much more to come. Maybe we should go to one six year term and avoid all this.

Craig

Tom Delay is machiavellian in every sense.

This was a great analysis David, and I particularly like this: “Our founding fathers, to insure fair and equal representation by American voters, implemented the redrawing of Congressional District maps every 10 years based on census reports.” I think each Founding Father was a genuis (not just because of this, but it’s an example).

Craig, ever since Drudge plagairized a scoop article first released here at WB and called it his scoop, I have absolutely no credibility for Drudge or his site. That is my only comment on Drudge, and the evidence of Drudges lies still exists here in our archives and on a host of other sites centering around a Kerry affair.

David:

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200509291814.asp

Then how about the sourse he quoted??

CH

sanger, back that claim about Eearle up with some factual reporting or forget having anyone with an ounce of critical skepticism taking your comment as anything but partisan B.S.

The papers and media here in Texas are full of this story and Earle’s record appears on a factual basis to have been entirely up and up except for his attempt to make a case against Kay Baily Hutchison. But Hutchison’s campaign was involved in the very same soft and hard money laundering circumventing Texas law as TRMPAC was involved in.

His attempt to indict the money laundering using Hutchison as a focal point failed due to his utter lack of hard evidence. If he is pulling the same stunt again without hard evidence, then he is still fighting windmills and the people will have to decide those windmills are worth fighting since they reflect legalized corruption of the political process.

Having been burned once though on the Hutchison case, many are playing the odds that he actually has some eyewitness evidence of conspiracy in the DeLay case. What we do know is that we don’t know what evidence convinced the grand jury.

But Earle hasn’t remained in his position as long as he has under both Democrats and Republicans by failing the Texas people in going after crime.

Ron Brown, new blood in all the offices coming in with the understanding they will never be an incumbent if they don’t tend the nation’s and the people’s business responsibly, could well shrink the divide between folks like you and I on a number of issues, I suspect.

Dennis, I fear the complicated trail of money in politics is just beyond the average voters interest and educational level. And therefore would just result in political football accusations of more partisan reporting. Disclosure without anti-incumbency voter activism, is like giving needles and flu vaccine to birds to stop the pandemic. They don’t know or care what to do with it, IMO.

Craig, having reviewed that article, it appears Earle and the movie makers have a common agenda, exposing political process corruption by money. I am all for accomplishing that goal. Aren’t you?

ActforChange says:

This is just the latest charge in a string of ethics violations swirling around DeLay including his abuse of power, money-for-influence machine, corporate shilling, ethics rebukes, foreign trips with lobbyists, and huge campaign payouts to family members.

Craig,
You forgot to point out that the moive maker went to Tom Delay to make the movie first. Even the guy that broke the story (Bryon York)had to admit that he brought it forward just to add a twist to the Tom Delay deliema.

David:

Craig, having reviewed that article, it appears Earle and the movie makers have a common agenda, exposing political process corruption by money. I am all for accomplishing that goal. Aren’t you?

Yes I am. And if Delay is guilty, then hang him high.

I am just concerned as to motive, if the odds of conviction are so low, and the prosecuter is pushing publicity by giving special treatment to the media in this case. I am wondering if the case against Delay isn’t pretty weak. If it is weak then I am wondering the point.

Craig

David, I don’t care one bit about Tom DeLay, and frankly wish that he would have been replaced as Speaker earlier.

I don’t know the facts of his case, so it would be wrong to just say that he’s 100% innocent—which I have not done.

The problem I have here is the conduct and history of the prosecutor, as well as some very fishy circumstances surrounding this case. You say that Earle’s history is on the up and up except for the Hutchinson case, but I’m sorry—not being on the up and up even once as a prosecuter, using your position to attack a political opponent, is not something so easily ignored.

Earle filed charges against Hutchinson, and on the first day of trial refused to present ANY evidence
and the case was thrown out.

At the very least, this warrants suspicion about his motives the next time he pushes a high profile case against a political opponent. Does he have evidence this time? Who knows? Have you seen his press conferences? Once again, he refuses to present any evidence whatsoever. This is highly unusual, and more reason to wonder what he thinks he’s up to.

FYI, Earle does not represent nor was he elected by all of the people of Texas. He is the DA of liberal Travis County—raising the question of proper jurisdiction here, since such cases are usually tried in a candidate’s home district.

Add all of this to the fact that he’s involved in making a movie about his anti-DeLay crusade, and the questions multiply. At a Democratic party fundraiser, he gave a speech against DeLay—an outrageous breech of prosecutarial conduct.

Don’t you think that using your position as a represtative of the court to raise money for your party by slamming political opponents suggests some serious conflicts of interest?

As for Earle’s prosecution of Democrats, Democrats themselves accused of him of the same conflicts of interests in his case against Attorney General Jim Maddox, a political rival of Earle’s ally Ann Richards. Maddox was a potential rival for governor, and Earle brought and lost a very weak case against Maddox. Travis County liberals seem to enjoy Earle’s anti-conservative crusades, but that doesn’t mean he’s either competent or ethical.

Problem with your charges of partisanship is that he’s gotten a conviction against DeLay’s associates in this deal, so any notion that this is purely political as a matter must deal with the fact that there was enough hard evidence to prove those cases.

You know, for once, I’d like to hear people like you say “Well, you know, he could be guilty.” You guys never concede these kinds of points, even when the hard evidence starts coming in.

Stephen, he’s already gotten a conviction against DeLay’s associates in the deal?

May I ask what you’re talking about?

Sanger,
A quick web search that I did looking into the history of Tom Delay’s indictment lead me to find a couple of interesting articles. One dated 9-05-05 talks about five people being indicted and another one dated 9-13-05 tels about 2 people being indicted

And again an article dated 9-22-04 talks about three top lieutenants of U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and eight corporate donors indicted. However, there are plenty of other articles that talk about what is happening in Texas from all kinds of sources so you can do your on web search.

Start with 2-27-04 to see an article that speaks of how the grand jury investigation began to open up questions of Tom Delays actions with the political action groups in Texas and how certain evidence leads to questions that need to be answered. I hope these sites help clear up some few things for you because they leave me wanting to ask The Hammer some real hardball questions.

Delay may well be technically innocent of wrongdoing, and it might not be such a big deal after all (as with Trent Lott’s comments). However we should have dumped him when this whole thing started - it’s killing party morale. Even Republicans are starting to ask whether their party stands for anything anymore. Time to bring on McCain.

However, my biggest complaint with McCain is precisely what has made him so popular with Democrats - the so-called campaign finance reform. When it comes to having the right to give away your own money to whomever you want, I’m as libertarian as they get. I’ll even support gay couples on this subject.

I never enjoyed having DeLay as speaker either—simply because he doesn’t represent my brand of conservatism. You can’t just dump people when scandal starts, however, because scandal is easy to manufacture whether there is real wrongdoing or not.
It can’t be as simple as “Whoops, somebody’s accused you of something. You’re out of here.”

sanger, the guy was repremanded by the House Ethics Committee on three previous occasions — once for bribing a fellow Representative. You don’t think it’s at all possible that DeLay might have known that his Texans for a Republican Majority PAC laundered a few extra bucks to get more Texas Reublicans elected?

sanger, 1) he is not the Speaker. He is the Majority Leader. The Speaker is Dennis Hastert. 2) TRMPAC was found guilty of violating Texas laws. 3) TRMPAC was invented and set up by Tom DeLay. 4) DeLay remains an advisor on its Board.

Earle screwed up with Hutchison by not having his ducks in a row. I personally have never met a professional in any area that I have come to know pretty well who hasn’t screwed up upon occasion, as in making a judgement call that did not pan out to be the best one. You seem to be very forgiving of the President at times despite his admission that everything has not gone as he planned.

I am with you on wanting to see the evidence presented to the Grand Jury before making any judgements as to Earle’s performance. As to his motives, they are partisan, so what? Isn’t every elected official’s? The question is, is he doing his job according to the requirements and expectations of the office he holds? We’ll see.

Given that TRMPAC has already been found guilty of violating Texas election and campaing financing laws, my position is, we need to reserve judgement on both DeLay’s conspiracy charges and Earle’s justification for indictment, until the evidence is presented in a public forum, which should occur within the next 90 days or so.

Craig, we elect judges in Texas. Earle’s being a Democrat is not an indictment down here. Everyone knows he is motivated by party politics just like our governor and Lt. Governor. That is not news, in Texas, that is considered natural. The question is, does he have the evidence? If he does, then his motives are not an issue. Welcome to Texas politics, where no one hides behind a mask of impartiality.

Update: DeLay is ordered to court on Oct. 21. We should find out then what the meat of Earle’s case is.

Clinton commits purjury and it’s a political witch hunt when the Senate tries to impeach him.
Tom DeLay is drug infront a grandjury and indicted by a Democrat District Attorney that has a history of draging his political opponants into court and that’s justice.
Just gotta love the way Liberials think.
IT’S A POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!

Ron,

Clinton was brought forward on impeachment charges and was acquitted. Delay was indicted by a grand jury, not the prosecutor. The grand jury either indicts or no-bills the accused. Clinton had numerous accusations hurled at him, but wasn’t indicted by a grand jury.

Tom Delay has had numerous reprimands from his own colleagues for violating ethics rules set up by, wait for it,,, Republicans. Then, the man had the audacity to attempt to overturn those rules when the last ethics violations were brought forward. Delay will have his day in court. Texas is full of conservatives. If the jury decides that Ronnie Earle is being overzealous, then he will be acquitted. If not, then good riddance. This guy has been one of the most visibly sleaziest majority leaders in recent history. Delay is dirty, and it’s not just liberals or democrats who think so. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it’s probably, well you know.

David:

From what I can gather it is likely to be a political issue than a legal one. Chances of convition look slim.

Craig

Kay Bailey Hutchison doesn’t care about black people

Craig, as I said in the article, politicians on both sides of the aisle were careful in writing the campaign finance reform laws in such a way as to make it very difficult if not impossible to enforce them.

That simple fact, indicates to me that Earle, no doubt partisanly motivated, is also highly motivated by principle as well. Earle sees (quite correctly I might add) a money laundering scheme going on no different than what happens with drug money, arms for contras, in the way TRMPAC washes corporate money through the RNC to finance local races. He found a 190,000 corporate donation amount go from TRMPAC to the RNC, and a $190,000 amount come back from the RNC to the cent.

He sees a money laundering scheme designed to circumvent the laws of Texas in same way drug cartels launder money to circumvent IRS laws and DEA enforcement. Can he prove a quid pro quo? Probably not. Is he right in asserting the money is being laundered and the laws being circumvented by DeLay and TRMPAC? Absolutely. Should all district attorneys in this country be going after this political money laundering? I believe so. The fact that Earle is, and other’s aren’t, says to me that Earle is motivated as much by principles of law and order as politics.

Don’t you just love how the Republican’s couldn’t put Dreier in as Majority Leader because he’s (gasp) GAY?
No wait, let me be precise here…
Make that an obviously a self-hating (judging by his votes) closeted gay man with a live-in lover, who uses various women for beard/dates during public appearances.

Also, don’t you simply love how Blunt’s wife and son are both lobbyists?

David, good reply to Craig. I couldn’t agree more.

Ron Brown, when the Clinton lied, he broke the law. He opened the door to be indicted for that lie. And yes, the motivation for going after Clinton was political partisanship. Earle is also motivated by political partisanship. But, that does not negate the facts. DeLay has established a money laundering machine designed to circumvent laws of Texas, and as district attorney, Earle is justified in trying to put a stop to it.

He won his case against TRMPAC, based on hard evidence of misuse of money. You can try to reduce this to political motivations and that’s fine, because it is all politics when it comes to litigation against politicians who violate the law, like Nixon, Clinton, and host of others. But such motivations do NOT negate the fact that politicians break the law, and if their political opponents don’t go after that law breaking, who will?

You aren’t really suggesting that political crooks should never be prosecuted except by their own supporters, are you?

Well, yes, I guess you are and that is why I can’t agree with you.

David:

I understand your point. He sees issues that he believes are morally wrong from his perspective and violate the spirit of certain laws that appear to be hopelessly flawed.

It’s a mute point because Delay is likely to win in court. Then Delay will have a huge microphone to explain why he was a victum and this was all about politics.

Like I said, when you strike for the King, strike to kill.

David, seriously here, you have a good grasp of this, but when you have to explain it in such detailed form, (with charts and graphs), it is very unlikely to fly with a jury. When striking at a national leader, we need a big obvious smoking gun.

Craig

I think the exposure of political parties circumventing the people’s laws in blogs and news media is worth its weight in gold. Changes in democracies are almost always incremental. I think Earle is doing the nation a great service in hilighting this issue. Tom Delay, is secondary, in my opinion in terms of the worth of Earle’s indictment.

This is of course a personal view and value judgement.

David R. Remer
You aren’t really suggesting that political crooks should never be prosecuted except by their own supporters, are you?

No. Just stirring the pot alittle.

David:

I will have to think about that one. Having prosecutors file charges on US citizens to make a political point seems like an abuse of power. That is not what he is hired to do. Two wrongs don’t make a right. If he used his own money for such an adventure that would be “noble”, but to use the taxpayers dollars to make a political point is wrong as well.

It will all come out in the wash.

Craig

Interesting Houston Chronicle article:
Will DeLay be defeated like Capone?

Also, good Washington Post op-ed piece: A Blow Against The Machine

Adrienne and David:

Here is another link http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200509301738.asp Evidently Earle is big on the Bible and right and wrong. A man on a personal religious mission

Since when is being a Christian and believing in right and wrong determinant of being on a religious mission? It that’s true, most our government’s politicians on both sides are on a religious mission. A premise I don’t accept.

David:

I think there is several years worth of access that the prosecutor gave this film outfit. That seems like a great big target for the defense team to look at via supeona. Imagine the volumes of quotes he handed the defense. I don’t know David. I am all for hanging the bad guys, but this guy looks like he might be a loose canon.

The root of the evil of the corporate and large-monied interest domination of politics is money,” Earle says as he takes the filmmakers on a nighttime drive around Austin. “This is in the Bible. This isn’t rocket science. The root of all evil truly is money, especially in politics. People talk about how money is the mother’s milk of politics. Well, it’s the devil’s brew. And what we’ve got to do, we’ve got to turn off the tap.”

So much for free speech.

Craig

No, not free speech. Bribery and corruption of the political process is what is being threatened here. Politics should be based on free and equal speech of each voter!

Earle is a very smart guy, and he has pegged one of the most basic problems facing us - government of special interests, by special interests and for special interests as delivered by billions of dollars every election cycle in the form of legal bribes, lobbyists gifts and promises of support, and unequal voice of big money over the 140 million small or no money voices.

The Big Money shapes the questions and their answers, the policies, and the agenda, without ever considering the voice and will of common hard working Americans who are so busy trying to raise families, hold on to jobs, and make a home life, that little time, money or energy is left for them to fight the big money special interests whose very wealth and working lives are centered around shaping government to their will.

Loose Cannon? If principle of one person, one vote, equal voice in this Republic is deemed loose cannon, then, yes, Earle, I, and the majority of Texans who have supported Earle’s career as a champion of democracy, and equal application of the law regardless of wealth or power, are all loose cannons. Watch out! :-)

Unless I am mistaken, the Grand Jury has ruled that there appears to be enough evidence to accuse Tom Delay of commiting a criminal act. This is better known as an indictment.

The major catalyst in this action appears to be District Attorney, Robert Earle.

There is all kinds of speculation regarding his guilt or innocence and, of course the potential that the issue was politically motivated since Earle is a Democrat.

There are already reports attempting to assign guilt to Delay for past and present indiscretions and Earle for highlighting the issue for vindictive purposes only.

Now, since the mock courtroom verdict has already found Delay guilty in the eyes of the Democrats and Liberals and innocent in the view of the Republicans and Conservatives, we can enter the only phase that has any real meaning and that is the trial/hearing or whatever it will be called.

Sorry, I left out the group of doublespeakers who claim that the alleged infractions are not confined to a political party and, they believe should be corrected whether or not the perpertrator is Democrat/Liberal, Republican/Conservative, etc. This is a growing and popular group because it cannot lose. In the end, I predict that more people will come forward with “I told you so” than any other group on the planet.

I agree. It’s the corruption, stupid.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Influence peddling.
When government is for sale, it is rotten.
Just because we’re not the most corrupt nation
on the planet is no reason to strive for last place.

We should start votin’ ‘em all out, and start
recalls for too, until government adequately
deals with this nation’s top 10 most pressing problems,
and passes a new rule/law: ONE PURPOSE PER BILL
(so we can see what’s in the bill,
and know why someone voted for/against it.

David,
This is an awful post. I’m glad tou were able to use it to get back in good graces with the right wing harassers. Tom Delay embodies everything about politics that everyone on Watchblog has railed about since I have started reading these. And you have minimized his crimes which are far more numerous than those charged.

Were a common criminal to be as guilty of conventional crimes as he is of white collar crimes we would all want the key thrown away. Shameful.

Ron Brown, when the Clinton lied, he broke the law.

Umm… Technically, Clinton didn’t lie or break the law. Just wanted to clear that up. :)